Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:26:13PM -0700, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: It actually looks like its copied from various vendor's RFPs that'd get submitted to BOTH parties just before election time. Folks, please try to limit the top-posting. Follow the money would be an interesting game to

[silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Rielly
Dear colleagues, I understand it is proper protocol to introduce myself. I'm a friend of Reuben Abraham's and am hard at work on our upcoming TEDIndia Conference in Mysore Nov 4-7, 2009. My job at TED encompasses several aspects: the TED Fellows program, the TED Book Club, Membership, and

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, lukhman_khanlukhman_k...@yahoo.com wrote: I think this is way too harsh. Can you be more specific about what you Atanu Dey has the best analysis I've seen It is an engaging piece of over-analysis. Nice as a thought experiment but political manifestos are

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Venkatesh Hariharan [25/06/09 14:33 +0530]: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, lukhman_khanlukhman_k...@yahoo.com wrote: I think this is way too harsh. Can you be more specific about what you Atanu Dey has the best analysis I've seen It is an engaging piece of over-analysis. Nice as a

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com wrote: Atanu Dey has the best analysis I've seen It is an engaging piece of over-analysis. Nice as a thought experiment but political manifestos are statements of intent and not meant to be analyzed to such depth.

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Tom Rielly trie...@gmail.com wrote: I understand it is proper protocol to introduce myself. I'm a friend of Reuben Abraham's and am hard at work on our upcoming TEDIndia Conference in Mysore Nov 4-7, 2009. My job at TED encompasses several aspects: the TED

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Tom Rielly trie...@gmail.com wrote: Dear colleagues, I understand it is proper protocol to introduce myself. Well, you riveted me while doing so Tom! Welcome...and if you can tell me how I could get into the audience in Mysore...could I be one of the ushers?

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/6/25 lukhman_khan lukhman_k...@yahoo.com That there is a civil code that is favouring one community over another IMHO seems to be an exaggerated lie told by the BJP. I sincerely request you to walk me through the specific grievance on that score. Very interesting to me. You're putting

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Nikhil Mehra
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: You're putting words into my mouth. I never said it favoured one community over another. I just said that it should be uniform, i.e. a Hindu, Muslim, or Christian are equal before the law. Perhaps I'm

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 16:28, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/25 lukhman_khan lukhman_k...@yahoo.com That there is a civil code that is favouring one community over another IMHO seems to be an exaggerated lie told by the BJP. I sincerely request you to walk me

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/6/25 Nikhil Mehra nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com I don't see how the need for a UCC affects a Hindu male. It would be a god sent for Muslim women, but a Hindu male pining for the UCC seems like the only desire is for a dilution of religious identities. I didn't know it always had to be about

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 16:36, Nikhil Mehra nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see how the need for a UCC affects a Hindu male. It would be a god sent for Muslim women, but a Hindu male pining for the UCC seems like the only desire is for a dilution of religious identities. Which is a

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
I'm writing this in a hurry, so please pardon the lack of clarity, etc. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 16:57, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The most disturbing fact is that most Muslim countries have moved beyond age-old Shariah laws, including Pakistan but in India we

Re: [silk] Sibal on Education

2009-06-25 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Gautam Johngkj...@gmail.com wrote: While scrapping the 10th Standard exams is all well and fine, in the Govt. school system it is the only public examination that children face. Without this, there really is no way to figure out how the school system is doing.

Re: [silk] Sibal on Education

2009-06-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 13:09, Gautam Johngkj...@gmail.com wrote: While scrapping the 10th Standard exams is all well and fine, in the Govt. school system it is the only public examination that children face. Without this, there really is no way to figure out how the school system is doing. So

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Indrajit Gupta
--- On Thu, 25/6/09, Pranesh Prakash the.solips...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pranesh Prakash the.solips...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes? To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Thursday, 25 June, 2009, 5:17 PM I'm writing this in a hurry, so please pardon the

Re: [silk] Sibal on Education

2009-06-25 Thread .
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Gautam John gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Some interesting stuff from Kapil Sibal: http://www.dnaindia.com/academy/report_we-could-abolish-class-x-board-exams-sibal_1268296 http://ibnlive.in.com/news/scrap-class-10-board-exams-says-kapil-sibal/95607-3.html While

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Manar Hussain
Welcome. Manar [one of the (of late) shamefully over silent ones who does scan the mails and shamelessly benefits from the odd the thread. I'm sure one of my new year resolutions covers being less lame in that way...] On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Tom Rielly trie...@gmail.com wrote: Dear

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread lukhman_khan
You're putting words into my mouth. I never said it favoured one community over another. I just said that it should be uniform, i.e. a Hindu, Muslim, Why should it uniform? Let the muslim have his/her personal law. Why should anyone get worked up about it. The whole issue is created just to

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread lukhman_khan
Again, you're going back and forth. So now you admit they had a bad campaign which is the reason I cited in my initial post. Bad campaign not just this time but all along. The line of thinking they adopt is all wrong. Right. Like I tried to point out in another post, the BJP having an

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Udhay Shankar N wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Tom Rielly trie...@gmail.com wrote: I understand it is proper protocol to introduce myself. I'm a friend of Reuben Abraham's and am hard at work on our upcoming TEDIndia Conference in Mysore Nov 4-7, 2009. My job at TED encompasses

Re: [silk] Party Animals

2009-06-25 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Udhay Shankar N wrote: This, of course, is a cunning plan to start discussion of the next FoU camp. When, where, etc. Somewhere in Bangalore, please... blissfully-snipping-the-uninteresting-part-of-the-message, Venkat

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread lukhman_khan
fact is that most Muslim countries have moved beyond age-old Shariah laws, including Pakistan Pakistan does not have shariah laws? Is that the latest news? Lukhman.

Re: [silk] Party Animals

2009-06-25 Thread Keith Adam
-Original Message- From: silklist-bounces+keith.adam0=blueyonder.co...@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist-bounces+keith.adam0=blueyonder.co...@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N Sent: 25 June 2009 15:26 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: [silk] Party Animals And

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Sumant Srivathsan
PS: Why is TED India so darn expensive? As Reuben Abraham keeps reminding us, TED India is priced at a fraction of the cost of the US sessions. Under half-price, I believe. In perspective, the India Today Conclave costs about the same amount. -- Sumant Srivathsan http://sumants.blogspot.com

Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City

2009-06-25 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Sumant Srivathsan suma...@gmail.comwrote: PS: Why is TED India so darn expensive? As Reuben Abraham keeps reminding us, TED India is priced at a fraction of the cost of the US sessions. Under half-price, I believe. In perspective, the India Today

Re: [silk] Sibal on Education

2009-06-25 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:06 PM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote: Wasnt there a 11+4 system before it was changed into a 10+2+3 system some decades ago? - or so i've heard. In Calcutta, I went through the 11 plus 3 system; one had to choose one's stream (Science, Commerce or Arts..they are

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Nikhil Mehra
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:52 PM, lukhman_khan lukhman_k...@yahoo.com wrote: You're putting words into my mouth. I never said it favoured one community over another. I just said that it should be uniform, i.e. a Hindu, Muslim, Why should it uniform? Let the muslim have his/her personal

[silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
His favorite bhut jolokia is going to be made into grenades, you see.. DRDO seems to have discovered bhut jolokia big time. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8119591.stm India plans hot chilli grenades Chillis Indian defence scientists are planning to put one of the world's hottest chilli

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Radhika, Y.
so i am guessing that mace in india for women will contain hot chilli powder instead of pepper spray? On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: His favorite bhut jolokia is going to be made into grenades, you see.. DRDO seems to have discovered bhut

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Radhika, Y. [25/06/09 18:22 -0700]: so i am guessing that mace in india for women will contain hot chilli powder instead of pepper spray? Of course, didnt you see that old smita patil movie? Ketan Mehta's mirch masala.

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Haynes
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Suresh Ramasubramaniansur...@hserus.net wrote: Indian defence scientists are planning to put one of the world's hottest chilli powders into hand grenades. They say the devices will be used to control rioters and in counter-insurgency operations. Except

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Charles Haynes [26/06/09 11:26 +1000]: Except that pure capsacin oleoresin is already available and used in non-lethal weapons. This is silly. Ah no. It is political. The north east is one of those areas that needs a lot of development activity, and what better way than to showcase a record

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Radhika, Y.
sadly no. but this time i picked up some other gems - Bawarchi and Katha (Dipti patil and naseeruddin) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: Radhika, Y. [25/06/09 18:22 -0700]: so i am guessing that mace in india for women will contain hot chilli

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: Charles Haynes [26/06/09 11:26 +1000]: Except that pure capsacin oleoresin is already available and used in non-lethal weapons. This is silly. Ah no. It is political. The north east is one of those areas that

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Radhika, Y. [25/06/09 18:32 -0700]: sadly no. but this time i picked up some other gems - Bawarchi and Katha (Dipti patil and naseeruddin) Ah, and this is what I picked up yesterday - * Gregory Peck in I walk the line (johnny cash songs aplenty but not a cash biopic like the Joaquin Phoenix

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Thursday 25 Jun 2009 9:11:48 pm lukhman_khan wrote: After you see these 15 part videos, please comment again. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=36C2EE2 Lukhman - the url isn't working shiv

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/6/25 lukhman_khan lukhman_k...@yahoo.com You're putting words into my mouth. I never said it favoured one community over another. I just said that it should be uniform, i.e. a Hindu, Muslim, Why should it uniform? Let the muslim have his/her personal law. Why should anyone get

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Thursday 25 Jun 2009 4:57:46 pm Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: most of Europe is moving towards banning the purdah and hijab. IMO most of Europe is being stupid. It is as much of a curbing of personal freedom to ban the hijab as it is to impose it. I think that if Europe or any other entity

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Friday 26 Jun 2009 6:56:46 am Charles Haynes wrote: Except that pure capsacin oleoresin is already available and used in non-lethal weapons. This is silly. Actually it is not so silly. Pure capsaicin oleoresin is probably manufactured in some foreign country and will have to be bought by

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Haynes
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sscybers...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 26 Jun 2009 6:56:46 am Charles Haynes wrote: Except that pure capsacin oleoresin is already available and used in non-lethal weapons. This is silly. Actually it is not so silly. Pure capsaicin oleoresin is probably

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sscybers...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it is not so silly. Pure capsaicin oleoresin is probably manufactured in some foreign country Probably? Why do you think OC is not manufactured in India? A quick

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread lukhman_khan
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=36C2EE2 Lukhman - the url isn't working go to youtube and search for banned documentary on gujarat riots it will show up as 15 parts of 10 minutes each. Needs a lot of patience to get to the interesting parts towards the end. Lukhman

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Haynes
y On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, J. Andrew Rogersand...@ceruleansystems.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sscybers...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it is not so silly. Pure capsaicin oleoresin is probably manufactured in some

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Friday 26 Jun 2009 8:47:08 am Charles Haynes wrote: is this just you speculating? Informed speculation. However since you have asked I will do some reseacrh and check the manufacturers and priced of capsaicin oleoresin versus chili powder and post here if I am able to find out. shiv

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Friday 26 Jun 2009 9:00:23 am J. Andrew Rogers wrote: A quick googling confirms that there are multiple domestic OC   manufacturers and exporters in India, not that this precludes foreign   manufacture in any particular case. Aha - these guys are making money off others when chilli powder

Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?

2009-06-25 Thread ss
On Friday 26 Jun 2009 9:35:37 am lukhman_khan wrote: If at all the BJP wants to sort out the plight of muslim women, they can go ahead and fix a minimum meher to be paid to the bride at the time of marriage. That will surely get them my vote (once at least). :D Lukhman - you should become a

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Alok G. Singh
Charles Haynes wrote: Pure capsaicin oleoresin is probably manufactured in some foreign country Probably? Why do you think OC is not manufactured in India? I thought there was a plant in Kerala. -- Alok Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public.

Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)

2009-06-25 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Being a bit of a spice monster, I've looked for a while to find sauces etc based on the Bhut Jolokia in India - not the least because it's cultivated in Tezpur, Assam, where I spent 3 years growing up. I didn't find any. Till I visited a mall in Philadelphia last week and found 3 American firms