I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
- I agree.
Cheeni
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/business/global/28return.html?_r=1src=twpagewanted=all
Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
By HEATHER TIMMONS
Published: November 27, 2009
NEW DELHI — When
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:
I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
- I agree.
Cheeni
The article also does not mention a very major factor...the difficulties
that the children of the repats, born and raised in
to adjust to a very different set of circumstances, a whole new culture,
that is often perceived as very restrictive, their inabliity to cope with
the huge extended families that were never in the picture in their home
country.
I agree in general, but why the quotes? The US (or wherever) *is*
It gets easier, perceptibly less corruption in some key areas, pay taxes,
electricity bills etc online and similar. And foreign brands easily available,
with comparable indian brands
But the ayyadurai guy was not merely maladjusted, he was arrogant and foolish
to say the least. And exhibited
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:
I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
- I agree.
I am quoting here the bits I definitely felt myself relating to.
But a study by Mr. Wadhwa and other academics found that 34 percent
hell no more than 4 or 5 people turn up for these
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 17:45, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:
I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
- I agree.
[snip]
would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain
to a reporter’s bosses in New York if she continued to
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
It is not a clique, and that's something I've tried very hard (and was
successful) to avoid while I was organising the walks. It's just that
over
the last 2 years and 20+ walks, we've all come to know each other very
well
and
would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain
to a reporterâs bosses in New York if she continued to pursue the
story.
ah, nothing new and the intimidation is not restricted to the
corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to
bosses/friends-up-there'
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On Monday 30 Nov 2009 5:45:06 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
And some Indians find it easy.
Big deal
shiv
On Monday 30 Nov 2009 6:33:32 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
The US became home within 1 year of getting there. While India remains
close to my heart, it remains elusive as home even after 4 years of
trying to fit in.
It takes 10 years to become Indian.
shiv
. [30/11/09 18:47 +0530]:
corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to
bosses/friends-up-there' intimidation tactics is my personal
experience within the Indian FLOSS community.
I suspect you simply ran across the same person a lot of us on this list
did. Next please?
srs
2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com:
that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when trying
May I submit that repat is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped
home at the expense of the GoI?
I propose cowpat instead.
Ram
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:
hell no more than 4 or 5 people turn up for these
There was quite a crowd of people (about 15) and I found a lot of them (er,
there were two who wouldn't speak to me) ...to use Udhay's favourite
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:
hell no more than 4 or 5 people turn up for these
There was quite a crowd of people (about 15) and I found a lot of them
(er,
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram
r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com:
that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when
trying
May I submit that repat is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped
home at the
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:
Returnees run into trouble when they “look Indian but think American,”
OMG, do I relate to this one.
I dont live in North America ... but I still feel the disconnect
everytime I fly from Nairobi into India.
The
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:
hell no more than 4 or 5 people turn up for these
Ah ... so there are some sleepers who turn up ?
I am okay for a evening coffee / snack somewhere tomorrow (tuesday) if
its still on ... I am on holiday, but you
Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its
peak. I guess that language transcends cultures!
2009/12/1 Thaths tha...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:
Please, do us a favor, stay where you are and don't come back. For every
repat that rants, there is one that digs in, and contributes without
cribbing. If you still
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com
Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its
peak. I guess that language transcends cultures!
Is asking those who crib and quit to rather participate and solve the
problem categorized as being extremely nationalist?
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com
when you phrase it as an exhortation to participate
This is what I was trying to say with For every repat that rants, there is
one that digs in, and contributes without cribbing.
Its interesting how you picked up the bit of my post most easy to
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/1 Thaths tha...@gmail.com
Could we have more reasoned arguments than the likes of Put up or
shut up, You call yourself Indian?! and Go back to Massachusetts,
Wuss!?
The reasoned argument was dig in
You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as
relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids?
On 12/1/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/11/30 Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM,
On 01-Dec-2009, at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan narayan.sh...@gmail.com
Returning home is not (or should not be) an altruistic act. You
return home due to circumstances (ill parents) or by choice, or by
tacit agreement (company sends you and you don't protest).
Bingo! Well said, Shoba.
I'd
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan narayan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:
I so agree. As a repat or cowpat, I have little patience with the whining
about how hard it is to assimilate back home.
Shoba and othersthis problem of having little patience is one I'd
like to address.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 19:29, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:
True, but hardly restricted to India. This guy mostly stands out for being
clumsy about it.
...clumsy? as in, lying and pretending to be a woman on a woman-only
list (which is neither new nor surprising) to dig into their
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
Shoba and othersthis problem of having little patience is one I'd
like to address.
snip
Oh well...nuff said, I guess. Please...let us have, not little patience,
but...a little MORE patience!
This is quite
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 02:43, Kiran K Karthikeyan
kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:
The reasoned argument was dig in and solve the problem instead of
complaining/quitting/swimming against the tide from the word go.
As an Indian-Born-Confused-Desi I'm curious to know how one would dig
in and
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan narayan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:
I so agree. As a repat or cowpat, I have little patience with the whining
about how hard it is to assimilate back home.
My sis in law is
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:03, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
I do think returnees who have a problem today came to India with a chip on
their shoulder and a wrong set of hagiographic expectations. And there is no
[..]
to blame for these than themselves. And if they feel bad
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 19:12, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:
The Chennai Photowalk is not a club/organised society. So no registration
required. Just come to the starting point of the walk within IST limits of
Indian Stretchable Time ;)
also tweets the routes.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe the ex-pats do have a chip on their shoulder but what about the
desi's who want change for a change. Or are you proposing that each
individual should single-handedly bring about change magically without
any support from
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