Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please

2012-05-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Dibyo [22/05/12 14:43 +0800]: How true is that? I can't tell them apart, but I'm very far from being the person to be asked. Well .. there are some words you can tell ARE from urdu nazar for sight ishq for love mubarak ho instead of badhaai ho for congratulations etc. Words from 50s and 60s

Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please

2012-05-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Srini RamaKrishnan Sent: 22 May 2012 12:40 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: The hindi dialects in several places (cities

Re: [silk] India's dangerous capitalism

2012-05-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepak Shenoy [22/05/12 07:45 +0530]: ass. I would still say Roy and Sainath are just shrill, and just too blinkered. They also often ignore (or maliciously omit?) statistics that work against their theories, which is just as bad as the government. suppresio veri suggestio falsi take your

Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please

2012-05-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Chew Lin Kay [22/05/12 12:16 +0800]: In brief, that phrase is used to separate it from Urdu. Is there a linguistic/political/geographical/whatever reason why it's not just called Hindi or Urdu? religious urdu derived from languages such as arabic, farsi and turkish, and was a sort of lingua

Re: [silk] On Saverin (was: Re: India's dangerous capitalism)

2012-05-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
John Sundman [22/05/12 00:17 -0400]: capital, but I do confess that Saverin's protestations (Who, me?) remind me of the fellow who killed his mother and father and then begged for leniency from the court on the grounds that he was an orphan. the classic definition of chutzpah - but you're

Re: [silk] India's dangerous capitalism

2012-05-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Probably the best sort of response is one that deconstructs her arguments and makes them look foolish You know, the way sokal etc debunked science studies What can be used to debunk baudrillard and derrida can be quite effectively used here --Original Message-- From: Venky Sender:

Re: [silk] India's dangerous capitalism

2012-05-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Saw that one, fantastic article. -Original Message- From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist- bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Sruthi Krishnan Sent: 18 May 2012 10:30 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] India's

Re: [silk] Of paper tigers and tigers on paper

2012-05-04 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
, Vinayak Hegde wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net javascript:; wrote: Udhay Shankar N [23/01/12 22:37 +0530]: On 23-Jan-12 9:53 PM, ss wrote: Once you oursource a thing like making curreny then you can only writhe and kick about when

Re: [silk] Aleph Books... and David Davidar

2012-05-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
He left penguin because of sexual harassment allegations, but his pen is under far better control than his penis is. This should be interesting. From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Sriram ET. Sent:

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

2012-04-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
-- From: Biju Chacko Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me Sent: Apr 24, 2012 11:34 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

2012-04-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Patina is the film of well .. age that builds up on things like very old marble or furniture. It is as old as the objects it is usually used to describe. From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Venkat

Re: [silk] Is this advertisement a fact?

2012-04-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Udhay Shankar N [24/04/12 07:17 +0530]: This one make similar points, but is much funnier (if anyone knows Suchi and wants to invite her to silk, feel free) http://www.himalmag.com/component/content/article/5047-why-fuss-fuss-about-mack-up-creams.html She's consciously channeling nissim

Re: [silk] Is this advertisement a fact?

2012-04-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And yes, I was right. On other hand, see my cousins Sarala and Tarala. http://wonderingminstrels.blogspot.in/2000/10/professor-nissim-ezekiel.html [...] Every family must have black sheep. Sarala and Tarala are married, Their husbands are very nice boys. Suresh Ramasubramanian [23/04/12 19

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

2012-04-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us put it this way. There are several terms being dismissed as pretentious expressions in this thread, that actually have specific meanings attached to them, and these meanings are used consistently -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Xxxrum xxx...@yahoo.com Sender:

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vinit Bhansali [18/04/12 11:16 +0530]: Sharing some interesting news based on the SilkMeet from the 13th. For people who were there and wondering why Surabhi disappeared halfway through the evening ... She had just gone into labour! my wife (who gave birth in feb this year) is standing here by

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Aniruddh. That's my son's name. I'd have thought it'd be tough to make a pun out of that but then I managed to read I.Allan Sealy's Hero, A Fable Something about a south indian hero turned politician called Hero, with a secretary called Zero, a heroine U.D.Cologne, vamp Flora Fountain and a

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us put it this way. Highly educated is often as high an illegal immigration risk as a mallu plumber or surd taxi driver Many other countries allow visa free entry or transit for people with indian passports and valid aussie, us, uk, schengen etc first world visas. Singapore for example.

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Riyadh is possibly the worst airport in the middle east - so it is possibly a very good thing you wore that suit --Original Message-- From: Ramakrishnan Sundaram Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
The ecnr regime is on Kids whose parents are graduates, both have passports etc are eligible for ecnr But if you don't need it it isn't stamped on your passport, only an ecr is stamped -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: thew...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Need to check my son's passport. In any case, for travel to the US, Singapore, EU, etc, are people permitted to depart India irrespective of ECNR status? Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net Sender: silklist-bounces

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepa Mohan [18/04/12 09:44 +0530]: I am very happy to tell everyone that Vinit Bhansali and Surabhi Tomar found a baby boy in a bed of rose petals on Sunday, April 15. The little one, in Vinit's words, is so good-looking that we are wondering which couple have left their baby with us.

Re: [silk] Ford Figo (was sociolinguistic query)

2012-04-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Giancarlo Livraghi [16 April 2012 15:17]: The Ford Figo story is quite intriguing. Apparently the name was chosen because Figo means 'cool' in Italian. Nobody in Detroit or Chennai appears to be aware of the anatomical-sexual implications (though maybe someone is in Brazil, where this model

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Just cute italian word I suspect --Original Message-- From: Giancarlo Livraghi Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Sent: Apr 15, 2012 17:29 At this point...

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
thew...@gmail.com [16 April 2012 10:42]: More references to Westerns? SRS would be thrilled. I remember hijo de puta from JT Edson and Sudden. Swearing in Mexican? Look no farther than Tuco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29kCbliw97A srs

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepak Shenoy [14 April 2012 12:50]: Can people here provide examples of strong curse/swear words in any language (i.e, these mean something beyond just punctuation or verbal tics) that DO NOT involve female relatives? Extra bonus point if they also DO NOT involve sexual acts of varying

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vinit Bhansali wrote: I read only Lousi L'amour. Are you suggesting I should try the Longarm books  with the current context of finding good swear words? No. As excellent westerns in their own right. Let me send you one or two.

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
well, the hindi 'chutiya' is also used more in the sense of idiot rather than fucker .. --srs (iPad) On 14-Apr-2012, at 17:29, Shrabonti Bagchi shrabont...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Picking up on one of the conversational

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Well well .. I sort of suspected someone would have written a paper on this. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/8/2

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
- From: Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:50:17 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Some languages like punjabi are just made to swear in .. -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:01:28 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To:

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
the scatological ones? asshole, shithead etc --srs (iPad) On 14-Apr-2012, at 10:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Picking up on one of the conversational threads from yesterday's meetup: Can people here provide examples of strong curse/swear words in any language (i.e, these mean

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
the (in_famous you chicken? On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: the scatological ones? asshole, shithead etc --srs (iPad) On 14-Apr-2012, at 10:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Picking up on one of the conversational threads from yesterday's

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
to the future used various versions of it, including the (in_famous you chicken? On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: the scatological ones? asshole, shithead etc --srs (iPad) On 14-Apr-2012, at 10:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote

Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query

2012-04-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
at 10:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: the scatological ones?  asshole, shithead etc --srs (iPad) On 14-Apr-2012, at 10:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Picking up on one of the conversational threads from yesterday's meetup: Can people here provide

Re: [silk] Bangalore silkmeet 13 Apr?

2012-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I mostly see you in comments on arun simha's wall :) Welcome. -Original Message- From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist- bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Shrabonti Bagchi Sent: 12 April 2012 13:38 To:

Re: [silk] a picture for you

2012-04-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
did the lion tell you all that? --srs (iPad) On 11-Apr-2012, at 20:56, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: What silk most probably needs is a craigslist / freecycle type forum (or mailing list). People coming over from stateside to whom you can ship kindle fires, apartments to rent, old

Re: [silk] Introduction

2012-04-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
can do 13th not 14th On Apr 8, 2012 9:20 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: welcome. btw in case like lahar, people prefer a weekday we might try friday the 13th as well none of y'all turn up wearing goalie masks, please .. --srs (iPad) On 08-Apr-2012, at 8:51, Deepa Agashe

Re: [silk] Bangalore silkmeet 13 Apr?

2012-04-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ha ha. This is the shortest silkmeet prep ever for me. Customer meeting all day on the 13th and a family that's sworn to lynch me if I spend the weekend in blr and miss out on vishu at home. Ok guys, I'm officially counted out now --Original Message-- From: Udhay Shankar N Sender:

Re: [silk] Introduction

2012-04-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
welcome. btw in case like lahar, people prefer a weekday we might try friday the 13th as well none of y'all turn up wearing goalie masks, please .. --srs (iPad) On 08-Apr-2012, at 8:51, Deepa Agashe daga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist,

Re: [silk] Listers in New York city?

2012-04-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Indrajit Gupta wrote: What do impoverished vegetarians do Food wagons on the street with a variety of cuisine, even indian, for those vegetarians who demand thayir saadam when they're traveling, and consider pasta vaguely non veg. Lots of salad bars, vegetarian joints etc. No shortage of them

Re: [silk] Listers in New York city?

2012-04-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thaths [02 April 2012 18:51]: http://www.happycow.net/north_america/usa/new_york/new_york_city/ We need a sadcow just for the steak joints and delis serving hot pastrami on rye sandwiches :)

Re: [silk] The facebook experiment - now on e-mail!

2012-04-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepa Mohan [03 April 2012 09:47]: Is there anything that is off-topic on this list? I like the fact that we can talk about cabbages and kings, but are personal questions, or questions addressed to one person, OT? Udhay...any sacred cows? Beyond the no ad hominem rule he has and

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Aadisht Khanna [31/03/12 09:54 +0530]: On 29-03-2012 20:44, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: Cheeni, do

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ss [30/03/12 09:07 +0530]: Srini there are thousands upon thousands of records. The internet is nowadays bursting with them. Many are oral but an increasing number are documented. Many are now being documented as family narratives, and some of those are I will agree with Shiv on this.

Re: [silk] Charlie Stross internet puppy tshirt

2012-03-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thejaswi Udupa [30/03/12 09:45 +0530]: Here's hundred rupees that says Priest hates the Baen school of SF. Have we lived and fought in vain, and so on. Most Baen books are ordinary hackneyed pulp fiction cliches, but SET IN SPACE!![more exclamation marks] Eh dude, that's way too much of a

Re: [silk] Aakar Patel's throwing Shuriken again

2012-03-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Srini RamaKrishnan [30/03/12 14:13 +0200]: I had a boss once who got away with the oddest behavior. He had a habit of getting impossibly drunk and then singing Britney Spears hits at the top of his voice while shirtless while standing on the dinner table every time there was a company dinner. It

Re: [silk] Aakar Patel's throwing Shuriken again

2012-03-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ramakrishnan Sundaram [30/03/12 17:21 +0530]: Nothing exemplies this better than Aakar Patel's latest column in livemint, http://www.livemint.com/Articles/2012/03/29200444/Why-it-is-better-to-live-in-th.html He doesn't like gujjus of the modi loving racist variety too much, does he? :) Well

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Aadisht Khanna [31/03/12 09:54 +0530]: On 29-03-2012 20:44, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: Cheeni, do you have a citation for this, please? I was under the impression that income tax (and therefore any benefits or exemptions to it) was a twentieth century invention. 1799 in england to be specific.

[silk] Charlie Stross internet puppy tshirt

2012-03-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
be. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

Re: [silk] Alternate DNS servers

2012-03-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Jon Cox [28/03/12 18:34 -0700]: By default dnscache gives you a 1M cache, which is configurable via /service/dnscache/env/CACHESIZE and even gives you tools to see how effective it is (see: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/cachesize.html ). It is very nice, useful - except that djb has weird and

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Biju Chacko [27/03/12 19:22 +0530]: The unspoken assumption in both this thread and the 40-hour week one that anyone who sacrifices family or personal time for work is a bad parent is, quite frankly, elitist crap. Sexist too, because it's the mothers who face the brunt of criticism. agree

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
We've kind of had to modify our habits a lot Safe options like parks, the beach, temples etc. And movies if any, only of the happy feet, alvin and the chipmunks etc variety -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Lahar Appaiah thew...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Articulateness versus rhetoric with loaded terminology is always an interesting distinction People in a comfort zone (stay at home spouse, extended family etc available to take care of the kid) aren't the best qualified to comment on this issue Deliberate neglect or abuse, which can happen in

Re: [silk] Fwd: Life and Love in Bangalore

2012-03-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
We divide the labor a bit. I do all I can that is possible from a laptop (doing our taxes, paying bills ...) and some other stuff occasionally. She does most of the hard stuff - supervising our maidservant etc Besides our collective careers that is -- srs (blackberry) -Original

Re: [silk] Anyone who works 40-hour weeks?

2012-03-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Physically well rounded - certainly -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:34:26 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re:

Re: [silk] Chanakya's teachings

2012-03-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Srini RamaKrishnan [13/03/12 11:39 +0100]: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Aanjhan Ranganathan aanj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Do you folks have any recommendation for books on Chanakya's [1] teachings and philosophies? What do you hope to learn from C or even from Machiavelli's Prince? I

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will really smile up there in heaven --Original Message-- From: Eugen Leitl Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To:

Re: [silk] Anupama Chopra: The Punjab-isation of Bollywood

2012-02-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us say, compare them to that family of hillbillies in seven brides for seven brothers, who use y'all, sonny etc, break into square dances at the drop of a hat, love to fight .. -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com Sender:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sent: 24 February 2012 19:57 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Cheeni found that ironic :). And for every such empire builder type who died poor, there's no shortage of his peers who started

[silk] Spanish conquistadores etc RE: aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cheeni wrote: If they were a better educated lot, they could even have declared independence and broken away from Spain and Portugal and formed a United State of South America on a democratic model, but they didn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_de_las_Casas Pizzarro's

Re: [silk] Spanish conquistadores etc RE: aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
conquistadores etc RE: aqvavit On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Pizzarro's brother Gonzalo did try - and defeated and killed a viceroy that the king sent to replace him. Rebellion to form a feudal state is some thing else - we are talking

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive advertising that occasionally tends to the bizzarre So while you may not want to use anything else, or someone else may not want to move beyond mutt and emacs (both of which I use and top post with too..) - there's little

Re: [silk] Spanish conquistadores etc RE: aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
etc RE: aqvavit Sent: Feb 25, 2012 04:41 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Well .. you're describing sort of what happened in India in your first paragraph. Also the USA. -- srs (blackberry)

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 25, 2012 09:39 On 24-Feb-12 8:05 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: you perform what was seen as (and declared by the pope as) your sacred duty to make

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And all the other little decadences of the mings didn't have a thing to do with this? Just an influx of spanish silver into their economy? -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
than an influx of wealth --Original Message-- From: Srini RamaKrishnan Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 23, 2012 17:10 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Suresh

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Srini RamaKrishnan [23/02/12 13:18 +0100]: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: But by that same logic the brits with all their opium, cotton etc from india would have crashed and burned long back, not after labor era socialism, the loss

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 23, 2012 19:43 On 2/23/2012 6:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: so on and forth till 1857 when an enron like crash took place. No mention of Dalhousie? It was his wars, reforms and attempts to Empirify (Empirificate? Empiricise

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Or because, on a blackberry, there's no way not to top post. Personally I don't make a conscious effort not to top post unless I want to quote some specific part of someone's message. -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Thaths tha...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
) -Original Message- From: John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:29:26 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ [22/02/12 13:50 +0300]: if you notice most of the sourthern states have the highest suicide rates : http://maithrikochi.org/india_suicide_statistics.htm#State_Rate mostly farmer suicides in ap / karnataka etc due to unscrupulous lending by banks and microfinance institutions .. which

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
So wanting to have a toilet in the house instead of crapping on the riverbank, a tv / fan instead of village dappankoothu performances and palm leaf hand fans, electric grinder rather than stone hand grinder is materialism? -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: ashok _

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America I don't quite see why one has to entirely throw the other out -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 22

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America I don't quite see why one has to entirely throw the other out Read the book.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Gentlemen of aurangabad - you think they're marginal farmers or something, or that aurangabad is some backwater hick town populated by marginal farmers? (I must admit, it is in marathwada so that impression is very easy to get .. and aurangabad district being semi arid like all of marathwada

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Wonderful quote, thank you - much better to my taste than an argument between a professional economist (deepak) and a gifted amateur (cheeni) on poverty eradication --Original Message-- From: Dave Long Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To:

Re: [silk] [liberationtech] The Indian government circumvents telcos to tap phones

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Not circumvent as such but I know of no lawful intercept mechanism that isn't operated on a restricted access, need to know basis Too many people with access to this can and will lead to leakage of data, illegal taps etc -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Eugen Leitl

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
It is actually a good idea to fit rural patterns of seasonal employment (during the sowing and harvest seasons, not at all during droughts etc) .. Prevents them from emigrating en masse to the cities to get even worse labor at far cheaper rates -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message-

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Certainly not institutionalized And the world bank has some wonderful ict initiatives going on, some of the best financial thinkers on its staff etc. Naïve and facile generalizations are just what characterize the ron paul-ish faux libertarianism, general hatred of big money, big government

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Financial reforms versus gravy train subsidy? Mismanage and then sell bonds, raise rates on freight etc? Singh was a protege of harold laski back in the day if I remember correctly - and that would certainly have an impact on him, as would working in the imf / world bank scene and as a

Re: [silk] Biryani Recipes

2012-02-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Udhay Shankar N [19/02/12 21:04 +0530]: Resurrecting this thread from a year ago (original post left unchanged below for context) as I came across an interesting new recipe today. Julian, I assume our QA arrangement continues as before. :)

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ [19/02/12 23:50 +0300]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Closer to home (for most in this list that is), Manmohan Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia both receive pensions from the World Bank. I have read this stated as a worrying thing before,

Re: [silk] How Your Cat Is Making You Crazy

2012-02-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
You are actually talking to a middle aged guy who is a practicing surgeon I guess you'll hear from him next with his doctor hat and professional demeanour on -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com Sender:

Re: [silk] Delhi meetup?

2012-02-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Who is to know if you bring in a laptop bag full of beer and scotch, and behave quietly? --Original Message-- From: Venkat Mangudi Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Delhi

Re: [silk] Airtel 3G

2012-02-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Mahesh Murthy [06/02/12 12:33 +0530]: I have 3G on Airtel on my Galaxy Note. No problems. Other than that the battery life of the damn thing goes down from ~30 hours on 2G+ Wi Fi to about 16 hrs on 3G + Wi fi. Airtel 3G on my wife's older E71 is quite good, and has coverage even in random

Re: [silk] Teaching creationism, scientology etc as alternatives to evolution made compulsory in Indiana.

2012-02-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
gabin kattukaran [07/02/12 09:30 +0530]: On 7 February 2012 05:53, Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.org wrote: http://j.mp/zkVSqH now they're making Google censor results that make fun of religion in Indiana. Oh wait, that's not IndiaNA, that's India. How dare you throw stones at our beautiful

Re: [silk] sendmail book

2012-02-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Nice for the historical value I guess The sendmail codebase, config etc have changed lots (almost beyond recognition) since then if I don't miss my guess -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Deepak Misra dee...@deepakmisra.com Sender:

Re: [silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thaths did a lot of travel through se asia including laos, you should find his blog someplace. Vinayak Hegde [02/02/12 16:43 +0530]: Hi silklisters, I wanted a few recommendations on History books on Baltics (Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania), Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovenia, Croatia,

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Subject: Re: [silk] JT Edsons On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Does anybody have these around - especially the older ones from the 1960s Had

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
His earlier works are very good pulp - tightly plotted, fast moving, lots of (not particularly accurate, but believable) detail .. The later ones had frayed plots, filled up with verbose recycling of character backgrounds and random right wing rants, not to mention very badly written sex ..

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] JT Edsons Or Alistair MacLeans? Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net Sender: silklist-bounces+thewall=gmail@lists.hserus.net Date: Mon, 30 Jan

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Bunduki. My favorite, though, were the Dusty Fog series. Much better than the Brad Counter/ Ole Devil series. -Lahar Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net Sender: silklist-bounces+thewall=gmail@lists.hserus.net Date

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Biju Chacko [31/01/12 11:08 +0530]: Does anybody else have any other guilty pleasures (of the literary kind) they'd ... um... recommend (if that's the word). My list would include Clive Cussler, David Eddings and Edgar Rice Burroughs. eddings and erb were again very good. tight though

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thejaswi Udupa [31/01/12 11:32 +0530]: Aside - KQA's annual quiz on speculative fiction, 'Chronosynclastic Infundibulum' is on this Saturday (2pm at IAT, Queens Road). Since the interest in SFF is higher on this group than outside, I humbly suggest that you all teleport your selves to the quiz

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Biju Chacko [31/01/12 11:23 +0530]: I've read a few of those, mostly when I was in school. Speaking of savages, have you read any Doc Savage novels? some. ages back - and those hal and roger novels about collecting animals for a zoo. and richmal crompton's william series though they arent

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
thew...@gmail.com [31/01/12 06:22 +]: My current favorite mindless thriller writers: 1. James Rollins. add lee child's jack reacher books. but you can only read so many books about a strong silent highly trained killer type who always gets to make love to a woman he's met for maybe a few

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
? --Original Message-- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sender: silklist-bounces+thewall=gmail@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] JT Edsons Sent: Jan 31, 2012 1:02 PM Biju Chacko [31/01/12 11:23 +0530]: I've read a few of those, mostly

Re: [silk] JT Edsons

2012-01-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us also not forget the oldies Elmore Leonard - classic western, gangster etc pulp still going strong Years back - g.a henty, george manville fenn, harrie irving hancock (west point and annapolis series) ... -- srs (blackberry)

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us put it this way. Bangalore or not, tech support does have to follow a script so you, and they, know for sure that troubleshooting step X was done. And yes, whatever it is, is usually documented in the manual or online -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: John Sundman

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us just say that, living in india so that my phone tech support would invariably come from bangalore .. I don't care if my support comes from a call center stateside or in europe instead, for some things at least - like bank loans - I prefer to have clear verbal and written communication

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