Dear Brooks,
Pseudomonas stutzeri ?
OK,
Tony
On 11 Sep 2009 at 16:50, Brooks Bradley wrote about :
Subject : [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver
Dear Nenah,
We have not evaluated EIS against the bacterial agents referenced by your
colleague in any isolated environemnt, specifically
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:
Perhaps one of you who live on or near that land over there may like to
pass a comment on the living habits of a fisherman in their native habitat?
g.
Well I live in Scotland, but since I'm in it's largest city I
The program is a series called Trawlermen Kirsteen, and I think it was made
in 2007 or 8. They go 100's of K's off the coast up that way trawling fish and
prawns etc.
Sounds to me like they probably *aren't* familiar with EIS if you have never
heard of anyone involved with it where you
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:
Sounds to me like they probably *aren't* familiar with EIS if you have
never heard of anyone involved with it where you are, if that be the case
then the obvious question is *why* did that particular bloke have
Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer...only 50 to 250 thousand dollars at
your local lab instruments supply house.
Don't forget to pick up the optional trained technician to run it.
Or you can forget about measuring PPM and settle for a fairly good idea
using a TDS/PPM meter. [double what
There's a whole lot of folx in Tennessee that believe a few wood scraps
and a match works just as good as the power company.
Ode
At 04:23 PM 9/11/2009 +0100, you wrote:
Yes, I wish I had the cash to have done just that Ode! I am seriously
thinking about a distiller though, even though
Selenium is a key element involved with regulating the levels of metals
in the body...copper being a great danger to overload with and very common
in the food supply and environment.
WHERE the Selenium encounters Silver , where reactions take place, will
likely make a huge difference
Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use? I've looked several
places and no luck so far. I'd druther not buy one with a product it in and
throw out the product, but if I have to...
Alan
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Try oregano oil(3 drops
As I said, you can't. Most use TDS meters (total dissolved solids) or
conductivity meters but it is impossible without these astronomically
priced spectrometers, to judge absolutely accurately, the actual ppm.
dee
On 11 Sep 2009, at 21:05, Melly Bag wrote:
Marshall,
That would buy a
I have found nasal sprays at the dollar store with screw on tops...can't get
cheaper than that,
deb
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
Subject: CSnasal spray bottles
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009,
It isn't about putting a price on health Smitty, not when I'm spending
this on water! It is about finding a suitable one which is not too
costly, and one which can survive the hard water here. dee
On 11 Sep 2009, at 21:11, Smitty wrote:
Chuck says =
Well, bite the bullet and buy a
Owner of this site belongs to this group I have bought rods from him with no
problems,
http://www.atlasnova.com/
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, fairchil...@netzero.net fairchil...@netzero.net wrote:
From: fairchil...@netzero.net fairchil...@netzero.net
Subject: CSFw: ordering silver rods/help please
To:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/Blue_Fugates_Troublesome_Creek.html
Yes so do I, but it depends on the shipping cost. I went to Livon
labs to try and get some of the liposomal vit C which cost $39 but the
shipping was $53!! So something which weighs as much as a generator,
will probably be astronomical. dee
On 11 Sep 2009, at 23:11,
I actually have done a lot of research, but still am not sure how the
one I can afford will perform, and b) if it will be ok with the hard
water. I may take Ode's advice about rain water, but you can't rely
on that. dee
On 11 Sep 2009, at 23:44, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
Aw, c'mon,
this link didn't work. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 00:25, Norton, Steve wrote:
The Blue Man was using silver nitrate. That was bad enough but he
lived
in a part of South Dakota that had natural selenium in the water The
combination of the two caused a buildup of silver selenide in his
tissues
Nor me. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 02:36, Clayton Family wrote:
Unless I had abundant personal experience with using dmso and cs, I
would never give it to a child having an asthma attack, unless it
was proven beforehand that the child could tolerate it. An adverse
reaction could have very
you don't take *any* minerals when ingesting CS. Its ok at a
different time though. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 03:24, Melly Bag wrote:
Steve,
I thought selenium (methionine ME) was supposed to be taken when one
ingests CS or EIS. It was said to escort out the silver particles
from
I thought it was selenomethionine which was the reduced form which
selenium becomes when in the body? So I would have thought the same
thing would apply. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 03:50, Norton, Steve wrote:
Melly,
I have found nothing to substantiate that any type of selenium will
It couldn't be just that they are cold, could it? lol dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 10:17, Kirsteen Wright wrote:
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Neville Munn
one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Sounds to me like they probably *aren't* familiar with EIS if you
have never heard of anyone
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 9:20 AM
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/Blue_Fugates_Troublesome_Creek.html
Trouble is, I haven't even got a fireplace here! dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 11:17, Ode Coyote wrote:
There's a whole lot of folx in Tennessee that believe a few wood
scraps and a match works just as good as the power company.
Ode
At 04:23 PM 9/11/2009 +0100, you wrote:
I got mine at super drug but some plastic bottle companies do them as
well, like Naturally Thinking. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 13:43, Alan Jones wrote:
Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use? I've looked
several places and no luck so far. I'd druther not buy one with a
product
Steve,
Thanks for the clarification. Now i am worried that silver in tissues can
remain there forever. If we ingest homemade EIS, do we get silver deposits in
tissues with the possibility of them getting stuck?
Thanks.
Mellhy
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
Just buy some saline spray and keep adding EIS to it. By the time you
pay shipping on a nasal spray bottle you'll have exceeded the cost of
buying the spray just for the bottle.
However, I did search out pump nasal spray bottles a couple of
christmases ago when I gave away EIS. Didn't buy
Annie,
Have you ever heard of 'whatever sells' in the news industry?
They don't care - as long as it sells news.
They are in the news selling business.
---Original Message---
From: Annie B Smythe
Date: 9/11/2009 5:04:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTruly puzzled
Yeah,
Brooks, I'm curious why you recommend a 1:1 ratio of AA:BS for creating the
sodium ascorbate. I did some googling and it seems most people recommend
2:1 for AA:BS.
I found the following in the Vitamin C Foundation forums, which explains the
2:1 ratio:
NaHCO3 + C6H8O6 -- NaC6H7O6 + H2CO3
Earlier this week, I caught up with some friends and one of them is
desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards
recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the circumstances..
The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering with MS
for a
The link is too long and was truncated. You need to add the aspx at the end.
- Steve N
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat Sep 12 08:06:21 2009
Subject: Re: CSTruly puzzled
this link didn't
I have read that B vitamins help with nerve damage and strokes. here
is some info hope this helps.
Donna ACS
http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowPDFProduktNr=224263Ausgabe=231468ArtikelNr=89238filename=89238.pdf
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/59D5A.htm
You have made an astute observation. 1 to 1 is the lowest ratio which yielded
an acceptable combination productfor us. I should have made a comment to this effect. Actually, I do use 2 to 1 and sometimes 3 to 1just personal preference. However, as one raises the lecithin component
People with asthma are many times more likely to be Celiac (gluten
intollerant). There is a blood test that will test for Celiac, so it's an
easy test to get done.
Thora
-Original Message-
From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:52 PM
To:
Dee,
In my experience, the minerals left behind in the still chamber do
build up a hard crust. So you want one that is easy to clean. The water
here is also very hard, and my distiller, with a bit of maintenance has
been in use nearly daily for around 6 years. The one linked by Garnet is
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Yes so do I, but it depends on the shipping cost. I went to Livon
labs to try and get some of the liposomal vit C which cost $39 but the
shipping was $53!! So something which weighs as much as a generator,
will probably be astronomical. dee
Those that ship often
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I actually have done a lot of research, but still am not sure how the
one I can afford will perform, and b) if it will be ok with the hard
water.
I don't quite understand your concern over hard water. Where I live the
water is extremely hard, and it just means I
Hi Hanneke...
The best thing the lady can do is exercise, exercise, exercise. They have found
that if a stroke patient will constantly exercise the effected limbs...same
with speech...new nerve pathways will develope and bypass the damaged area of
the brain basically rewiring it. There have
Neville,
When I mention removing silver from the tissues I am referring to insoluble
forms of silver, such as metallic silver or silver complexed with selenium or
sulfur, in the tissues. Generally those are the forms of silver found in the
tissues of people with argyria.
- Steve N
This product is cheap and great for many many physical issues. Someone would
have to give it to here in the home. Here it is
http://mmsadvisor.com/?s=sclerosis
From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 12,
the link didn't work. Leslie
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From: fairchil...@netzero.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: CSFw: ordering silver rods/help please
-- Forwarded Message --
From: fairchil...@netzero.net
I did not suggest giving it during the asthma attack. Best
read more carefully before
going off at someone for something they did not write. ;-)))
DMSO is not an irritant but it is drying. It is actually a
tissue preservative and cell
normalizer.
Again patch testing is a good idea with any
I use mine regularly with 40-60 ppm hard water. Every few
batches I soak it in white vinegar and hot water
to remove deposits. Between batches I either rinse or wipe
out what I can. A little sticks and when that gets
to the size of a quarter I soak in vinegar, sometimes over
night to get it
For MS look into Low Dose Naltrexone.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information is a
non-discussion
list created for the files and links. There are links to
many email lists,
info sites and studies. There are double blind placebo
studies in MS,
Crohn's and FM. LDN is an immune system
As far as I know allergic reactions are the main reason for
avoiding sulfites. It
is a big problem for sensitive people.
Garnet
Melly Bag wrote:
Garnet,
You mentioned sulfite preservative. Is this good or bad for the body?
I tried to do a google and the only negative side effect read was
Hanneke,
I have not had a stroke but a severe brain injury where the left side of my scalp came off. What followed, I was told, is what happens when one has a stroke.
PLEASE, If i do not have my sentence structure right or the words are wrong PLEASE do not call me
Hi Mary,
I had a son who was head injured by a car accident and survived for a
number of years.
I understand what you are going through and want you to know that your
example makes better people of the rest of us.
I take my hat off to you.
Frank
mborg...@att.net wrote:
Hanneke,
I
Thank You,
Being brain injuried is truly like living in hell
Mary
-- Original message from "frankcuns-r...@comcast.net" frankcuns-r...@comcast.net: -- Hi Mary, I had a son who was head injured by a car accident and survived for a number of years. I
Dear Mary,
you are to be admired for your persistence and courage!
It seems that you are living proof for a fact that science
is only just about to discover: that the brain has a lot
of reserves, and with consequent training unused brain
portions can take over the functions of parts of the
Well, doing nothing gets nothing done...
How much does your distilled water cost?
How many gallons or liters does it take to equal the price of a
distiller?
If any distiller gives you more than that, then you're ahead.
Proper maintenance lengthens the life of the device.
That means using white
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:31 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
I did die that day..twice, but my ME died also but I am slowly making
my way back..
Mary
Thank you for sharing such an awesomely inspiring story. I think you've
touched us all. I sincerely hope and pray you continue to improve. You
While it is usually used as a stroke preventative, serrapeptase has been
successful after the fact in some stroke cases.
- Steve N
http://www.serrapeptase.info/testimonial.asp?x-up-destcharset=4
- Original Message -
From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
thanks a lot for the info sol, I will keep for when I 'take the
plunge' so to speak. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 18:06, sol wrote:
Dee,
In my experience, the minerals left behind in the still chamber do
build up a hard crust. So you want one that is easy to clean. The
water here is also
Food for thought indeed. I do know that some places charge much
higher rates than others from the States. iHerb is really reasonable
and they are in California, but its terrible from someone like Mercola
or Livon labs. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 18:11, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Trouble is, you don't know which is which until you've got it! dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 18:14, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I actually have done a lot of research, but still am not sure how
the one I can afford will perform, and b) if it will be ok with the
hard water.
I don't
[Hanneke] Earlier this week, I caught up with some friends and one of them
is desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards
recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the
circumstances.
==
The Tennant Biomodulator
I cannot imagine what it was like but you are to be truly admired,
especially for trying to help another. Good wishes to you. dee
On 12 Sep 2009, at 19:55, mborg...@att.net wrote:
Thank You,
Being brain injuried is truly like living in hell
Mary
-- Original
Here is a link to an article written by a woman who used EFT for a brain
injury:
http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/traumatic-brain-injury-relief-terrie.htm
The EFT manual is free on the internet, and the technique can be
self-administered or done by proxy.
Nenah
Nenah Sylver, PhD
Hi Mary,
I live in Michigan and transport people who are wheel-chair bound many of them
challenged by closed head injuries or strokes..hang in there my friend I admire
your courage,
debbie
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net wrote:
From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
Thank you for this important information.
Have you reviewed the papers yourself? Are all of the specie resistant, or
only certain strains? Will higher doses work against them.
Thank you,
Jim
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, nenahsylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote:
A colleague I trust
Sorry all, can you (Garnet - sol) give me the link for your distiller
again please? I have put it somewhere and can't find it (sorry Wayne,
if you're watching from somewhere) I know my filing system is
rubbish! Many thanks...dee
Dear Nenah,
Thank you for sharing this. I can relate to all of this.
I owned 2 shopping centers and 30 businesses, i lost everything except my husband and children.
If I knew than what I know now I would have saved me years and years of pain and frustration. I became a hypnotherapist and
There is a book that reports many of the newest efforts
to help people with such problems:
The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph
from the Frontiers of Brain Science (James H. Silberman Books)
Norman Doidge
The book is in our local library. I put a hold on it.
I'm
Duncan, or anyone else,
What methods are you using for connecting to your electrodes, and/or
connecting your electrode assembly to your brew cell for this sort of
CS maker.
I'm still planning to do this. I actually have several microwaves
(with schematics) but I really want a better idea about
Garnet wrote:
I use mine regularly with 40-60 ppm hard water.
Geez, the tap water here, even filtered, pegs my Hanna PWT meter, so it
is a lot higher than that, but over 99uS. Not sure what it would read
on a TDS.
sol
--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Trouble is, you don't know which is which until you've got it! dee
Actually, you can telllook for one in which the entire top
removes, and that has two plugs going into the tank. One plug for the
top, one to the power supply. That means you can heat the tank
You would probably be better off making some sort of an extraction
from the rosehips to use. I'm not exactly sure how you would do that,
I'm thinking that using hot water (as in making a tea) would possibly
affect the vitamins content, etc.
Dan
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:29 PM,
Mary,
We are here to help
Frank
mborg...@att.net wrote:
Thank You,
Being brain injuried is truly like living in hell
Mary
-- Original message from frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
frankcuns-r...@comcast.net: --
Hi Mary,
I had a son who was
None of these bacteria are resistant to silver. NONE. If silver doesn't kill
them it's because the silver was not ionic and/or it did not make contact with
the bacteria. Adding a 10% DMSO solution to the silver would solve the
problem, assuming the silver is in the ionic form. Bacteria can
Melly,
It is my opinion that some silver does stay in the tissues when you use silver.
But I think with prudent use the silver buildup can be maintained at a low
enough level to avoid argryia. Such as not using silver nitrate, silver acetate
or mild silver proteins. Not using high doses for a
Thank you Bob,
Has any professional here besides Dr. Silver read the studies?
Does anyone think the studies were designed to disparage CS and Cu?
Jim
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
None of these bacteria are resistant to silver. NONE. If silver
What's the right selenium?
Alan
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:
Melly,
It is my opinion that some silver does stay in the tissues when you use
silver. But I think with prudent use the silver buildup can be maintained at
a low enough level to
Selenomethionine. I believe that it is a yeast derived selenium.
- Steve N
From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat Sep 12 19:21:08 2009
Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #524
What's the
It seems like this brand of cs was discussed just a few weeks back.
Is there anyone out there that saved the posts and can repost the highlights?
What I'm looking for is the opinion of this product by some of the group long
timers and how to explain the difference between this
product and what
I hereby thank you all from the bottom of my heart for the great
information passed on for helping my friend's partner in her recovery
. Some of you I have written personally. Absolutely awesome.
The information received has been forwarded to them and they are
having a family discussion this
Nice to know this about MMS
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-skin.htm
Chuck
God will forgive me. Thats his job, after all.
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Do you know what will get rid of fungus? Was wondering if CS or MMS would?
Leslie
- Original Message -
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:48 PM
Subject: CSMMS news
Nice to know this about MMS
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-skin.htm
Lin,
You are making excellent ionic/colloidal silver with the Silvergen. If you
do it correctly, using just distilled water and .999 fine silver, you should
come out with an 80%ionic, 20%particulate solution (or thereabouts). At 10ppm
or so this should be an excellent silver for just
Even nicer to learn about MMS2: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm
Anyone have any personal opinions about it or experience with using it?
Steve Y.
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:48 PM
To:
Thanks. This has concerned me for awhile, but here is something very
important at this time so wonder what might stop the action of this vac.
For those of you who do not believe that the Government is going to
Quarantine anyone for not having the N1H1 Swine Flu vaccination,
I would like for
found their info regarding the flu here:
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-newflu.htm
- Original Message -
From: SJY you...@relia.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: CSMMS news
Even nicer to learn about MMS2:
Jim Holmes wrote:
Thank you Bob,
Has any professional here besides Dr. Silver read the studies?
Does anyone think the studies were designed to disparage CS and Cu?
I'm no professional, and didn't review the study designs, but I have
seen at least one study in the past in which the silver
Hi Sol, et al,
Amazing. If the test were done on plated media, they are worthless, as it
has been demonstrated years before broth must be used for the reason you
describe.
If the people who did the studies were ignorant of that fact it shows they
were not qualified to do the study. If they did
I have had great results on fungus with MMS but it was on a mule. Our
trainer's mule had white line disease in his foot which is a fungus inside the
layers of the foot. It can get bad enough they loose their foot. She had been
working at trying to cure him for five years. I suggested she
Hi Steve. I too would like to have a testimony. I have purchased everything I
need, just waiting on more feedback. I will let this group know if I do find
out anything. Orrilia
From: SJY you...@relia.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday,
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