Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-20 Thread Connie Howard
: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-20 Thread Nancy DeLise
The have a toll free number 888-328-8840 - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy... your comments regarding Sovereign Silver peeked my interest

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
, but did not. I will keep trying. Nancy - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I suppose then, the question is, how do you make your home

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-19 Thread Nancy DeLise
full droppers of this solution per gallon of distilled water. Nancy - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:14 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Could you tell us exactly how you made your

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-19 Thread Nancy DeLise
quickly. Nancy - Original Message - From: Greg Ball To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-17 Thread sol
Could you tell us exactly how you made your homemade CS? I'd like to know if my homemade is comparable to yours or not. thanks, sol Nancy DeLise wrote: I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took my homemade CS (16-24 oz. per day of approx 10ppm) for 2 1/2 years and got better BUT

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-17 Thread Greg Ball
, December 17, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Could you tell us exactly how you made your homemade CS? I'd like to know if my homemade is comparable to yours or not. thanks, sol Nancy DeLise wrote: I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread Ode Coyote
At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Greg Ball wrote: I have never seen anywhere that I need to stir. What is this about? The simple answer is...when ions are coming off the electrode thaey are highly concentrated at and near the electrode surface. If you jamb a lot of ions together

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread Ode Coyote
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 US. And if the use of the 1.2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread Ode Coyote
: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread sol
And since Ode just wrote and made some good points about consistency and setting a protocol for using one's CS. I don't think I'll mess with my SG-6. Both the SG-6 and my magnetic stir Silverpuppy produce CS that tests to within 1 uS of each other, which means I don't have to adjust intake

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread Trem
...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 uS. And if the use of the 1.2 multiplication factor is still good to use, that means actual ppm is around 18

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-16 Thread Nancy DeLise
...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I suppose then, the question is, how do you make your home made? PS What sort of microscope can see particles? [ I've seen your micrographs. They're great

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Ode Coyote
No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used. Of course, using more becomes quite affordable. Ode At 10:08 AM 12/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Ode Coyote
In reality, getting consistent batch to batch results is more important than any particular PPM. The major difference is only in cheap water and no dosing recommendations I've ever seen for any PPM make any sense at all. If you at least know that you have the same stuff every time, a

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Stuff
Agreed and I've had the same results. Haven't tried to re-process. I'm happy with the results also. stuff At 05:15 PM 12/14/2005, sol wrote: Trem, It does increase the shut off point a little, but certainly not up to 20 uS. This is just my own experience. Indeed to get to 16.5 uS I

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
Do you know what protocol he used? Marshall twll56 wrote: Dr.Julian Whitaker claims Lyme Disease Cured in 72 hrs.Its in some of his free reports when you subscribe to hisnews letter. 1 yr. $49.952 yrs. $79.901-800-211-76571-800-539-8219

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
40 is hard to get to. But you can get there with 26 ppm of silver oxide/hydroxide, 8 ppm of colloid, and 6 ppm of silver carbonate (from the absorbed carbon dioxide in the water). Marshall Deborah Gerard wrote: I get mine up to around 40 sometimes with the tester...is that bad?...deb

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
. Simple division, the [anode area]/current. Marshall Thanks! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread sol
That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used. Of course, using more becomes quite affordable.

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Sasha Max
Okay guys, What is a Trimpot? Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Sol Date: 12/14/05 17:45:25 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 US. And if the use of the 1.2 -- The Silver List

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
Message--- From: Sol Date: 12/14/05 17:45:25 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 US. And if the use of the 1.2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Sasha Max
. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE It wil probably look like this: http://us.st9.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/webtronics_1870_26101718 Or like this: http://us.st9.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/webtronics_1870_26197242 It is a variable resistor. Marshall Sasha Max wrote: Okay guys, What

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Dan Nave
This means: Calculate the surface area of the piece of silver that you are using for anode (connected to the positive battery terminal). You should only allow the current to be large enough so that it does not exceed 1ma (same as .001 amp) for every square inch of anode surface area that you

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread V
- From: Robert Bergermailto:bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Hi Andrea, Where did you get the dat that the 3-9 only produce a 2 to 3 ppm

RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Jim Holmes
...@emotap.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Okay guys, What is a Trimpot? Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Sol Date: 12/14/05 17:45:25 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Nancy DeLise
: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:26 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Hi Nancy...are you or anyone in the group ever concerned about killing of the good flora in the intestines...or isn't that even a real concern? thanks in advance debbie

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Nancy DeLise
, December 14, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE why add the H2o2? Does that alter the silver in any way? 8 drops per 8 ounces or total?

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-15 Thread Nancy DeLise
Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used

RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Andrea, Where did you get the dat that the 3-9 only produce a 2 to 3 ppm silver solution? Whoever told you that is illiterate about the whole process. you can get almost whatever concentration you want. Its just a matter of time. How do you know the

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
Bergermailto:bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Hi Andrea, Where did you get the dat that the 3-9 only produce a 2 to 3 ppm silver solution? Whoever

RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
People who use the silvergen or the silverpuppy generators and have also bought Sovereign Silver say they can't tell any difference at all. Ode At 02:01 AM 12/14/2005 +, you wrote: Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Greg Ball wrote: Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably 20 years ago. I was given false negatives for all those years, and within the last year tried a new test which was positive. I am trying to decide

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Greg Ball wrote: I did measure it with the tester V just recommended in his post. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmI actually have that one. The longer I would go with my silver, the more yellow it gets. Also, The black debris on the silver wire would get really thick and crusty. If I

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread sol
Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? Lots more? Maybe I'm just a confirmed believer in more is better for serious diseases/infections, but I really just can't see a couple of teaspoons doing much, no matter

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread B56G
Andrea, I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs. I have used sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at all. I tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too. I have

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Stuff
At 10:43 AM 12/14/2005, Marshall wrote: The silvergen SG6 is a very good unit. It can produce EIS of over 20 ppm consistantly. It is a very good unit, but the most I can get out of it is around 16.5 uS (unit set on high) measured with the Hanna PWT and using starting water that measures .2

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Trem
st...@laguna.com.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE At 10:43 AM 12/14/2005, Marshall wrote: The silvergen SG6 is a very good unit. It can produce EIS of over 20 ppm consistantly. It is a very good unit

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Well, 16.5 uS is about 19.8 ppm if freshly made, since the multiplication factor is 1.2 conservatively. That is pretty close to 20 ppm. Mine tops out at about 21 ppm. So maybe I should have said EIS of about 20 ppm instead of EIS of over 20 ppm. Marshall Stuff wrote: At 10:43 AM 12/14/2005,

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? Lots more? Maybe I'm just a confirmed believer in more is better for serious diseases/infections, but I really just can't see

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
:43 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote: Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably 20 years ago. I was given false negatives for all those years, and within the last

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread twll56
Dr.Julian Whitaker claims Lyme Disease Cured in 72 hrs. Its in some of his free reports when you subscribe to his news letter. 1 yr. $49.952 yrs. $79.90 1-800-211-7657 1-800-539-8219

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote: Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread sol
That is my experience as well. Set full on high, around 16.5uS is maximum for my SG-6. I also use a Hanna PWT and my DW uS is in the same range too. My Silverpuppy produces CS at auto shut off of 16.9 uS. So they are very close as to auto shut off points. And in case anyone is interested

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread sol
Trem, It does increase the shut off point a little, but certainly not up to 20 uS. This is just my own experience. Indeed to get to 16.5 uS I already have spread the electrodes about a half inch farther apart at bottom than they are at their attachment points. I also reduced the level of the

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread sol
I don't know. I've been drinking a LOT of my homemade CS for 3 years now, and do not have argryia yet. LOL. I try to sip at least a pint a day, and often take more than that. (I have good reason to use that much, which may even be undiagnosed Lyme--I haven't had the blood test yet). I would

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Trem
@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, It does increase the shut off point a little, but certainly not up to 20 uS. This is just my own experience. Indeed to get to 16.5 uS I already have spread the electrodes about a half inch

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Dr.Julian Whitaker claims Lyme Disease Cured in 72 hrs. Its in some of his free reports when you subscribe to his news

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Deborah Gerard
I get mine up to around 40 sometimes with the tester...is that bad?...deb Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Greg Ball wrote: I did measure it with the tester V just recommended in his post. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmI actually have that one. The longer I would go

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote: I did measure it with the tester V just recommended in his post. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmhttp://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmI actually have that one. The longer I

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread sol
- Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, It does increase the shut off point a little, but certainly not up to 20 uS. This is just my own experience

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Robert Berger
Greg, Stirrring was introduced back in 1999, as the silver ion concentration will build up between the electrodes and the current reading that you get is not idicative of what is actually in the brew cell. When the current density gets much above 1 ma per square inch of wet anode

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread twll56
Havn't suscribed to it yet. - Original Message - From: Greg Ball To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Did you ever read that report? Could you share what you saw? I have spent so much

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Nancy DeLise
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That makes sense to me. Is there more of a concern with large doses of the homemade with Argyria?

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Deborah Gerard
Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That makes sense to me. Is there more of a concern with large doses of the homemade with Argyria?

Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-14 Thread Greg Ball
: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE If you are making pure CS there is no danger of argyeria. I believe you can take a gallon a day with no problem, however, if you could drink a gallon day? who would. I believe 16-20 oz.per day with 8 drops of 3 % H2o2 added to it. Nancy - Original

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2005-12-14 Thread twll56
- Original Message - From: twll56 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Havn't suscribed to it yet. - Original Message - From: Greg Ball To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday

RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE

2005-12-13 Thread Greg Ball
Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably 20 years ago. I was given false negatives for all those years, and within the last year tried a new test which was positive. I am trying to decide on two things: 1. Do