Malcolm,
Keep coming back...it works if you work it!
Scott
With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing- or calculating
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday
Hi Malcolm. I am leery of niacin for reasons other than just flushing. I
would check with my doctor before taking it. One needs a knowledgable
well-rounded doctor. FYI:
Adverse Niacin Side Effects
Some of the niacin side affects reported most especially for non-flush
products and high
Thanks, Malcolm.
Years ago I tried niacin and experienced a good deal of physical
discomfort, so I will probably try a small amount of niacinamide and see
what happens.
Cheers,
indi
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:48:34 -0700
Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
Hi Faith,
for that you can take a form -
Hi Faith, thanks for that, but Durn! is nothing truly safe? grin, as
Mike says I do think people vary a great deal in their reactions to
this -n- that, which is why medicine and big pharma love the
sledgehammer approach VE haff vays to Make you happy ummm, . . .
take care, M.
On Fri,
Niacin needs to be started with a low dose and acclimated to as you
increase dosage.
An example woud be 50mg to start and build up to a couple of grams.
It was a college prank to give someone a relatively stiff dose for the
reaction.
You will actually think you're going to die.
For cryin' out
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:11:21 -0400
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
For cryin' out loud, start your experiments with a little research and
caution.
I have no plan to do otherwise. As I said originally, *years* ago, I had
an uncomfortable experience. It wouldn't go that way today.
But I
Hi Everyone,
I found a book at the Half-Price book store, called, ALL ABOUT RADATION,
which had a gread deal of data about niacin. According to the book, the
flush you get from the niacin is from the amount of radation your body has
absorbed. The best way to take niacin is to start off with
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:25:18 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:20 PM, indi wrote:
I time mine manually (and stir it manually) as well. 14 gauge .
silver wire electrodes, and a ventec neon sign power transformer,
which is plugged into a 3 amp
I will start a new one tomorrow, but plan to do just one gallon at a
time for a change. My back is giving me trouble, so I'm not going to
try hoisting two gallons at this time -- have to be able to chop and
carry firewood (among other chores), so I need to be careful.
In case you were
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:36 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
Dear Indi: I am fascinated that you use CS to stop the pain of
cellulitis because I actually did not know that cellulitis hurts.
Cellulitis is *very* painful (often people confuse it with
cellulite, but it's a totally
Cellulitis is *very* painful (often people confuse it with
cellulite, but it's a totally different thing). I nearly lost my leg
to it before I started CS. In my case, it is caused by the MRSA and
poor circulation.
Do you have any idea why the urinary tract infection recurs? Faith
G.
She
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:00:03 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
I am sorry to hear about the cellulitis. Yes, I was questioning
cellulite because I had no idea.
Thanks. It's a lot better than it was before CS, but it does still slow
me down a bit. Time on my feet is still
the new valve was so much stronger than my old one. It took some
getting used to. Sorry about your cellulitis. Best wishes, Faith G.
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring
circulation.
Dan
-Original Message-
From: indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing- or calculating
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:00:03 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
I am
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:07:13 -0500
Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote:
Brooks Bradley recently posted a CS/DMSO/Glycerin recipe effective
against MRSA which should work on the cellulitis.
Circulation can be much improved using large doses of Niacin, which is
relatively inexpensive.
One has to be careful of the 'flush'. Not everyone can take niacin. Faith
g.
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing- or calculating
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:07
Hi Faith,
for that you can take a form - niacinamide, often labeled as non-flush
niacin. Works for me and regular niacin gives me intense skin prickles.
Take care, Malcolm
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 21:00 -0400, Faith Gagne wrote:
One has to be careful of the 'flush'. Not everyone can take
I have definitely proved the one about leaching from the plastic
Kathryn. If I buy new plastic (PET) bottles, I have to soak for three
days at least in distilled water, otherwise, the CS goes yellow. After
soaking I test the DW and it reads at least 025 whereas before I put it
in the new
I am not ignoring your point. Degrees of accuracy in my experience,
range from good enough to several decimal places in a calculation. It
all depends on what one is interested in looking at. In school I had
to write up error calculations that ranged several pages of math
starting from my
Thanks, Kathryn.
I'm glad to hear you are employing careful controls.
You are definitely correct that the HVAC model I'm using would put me
at greater risk of introducing undesirable foreign elements into the
mix. Another good reason for my concerns about accuracy. Also, my
current generator is
It is funny, I can get it at the grocery store. It is one specific
brand, and says on the label suitable for laboratory use. Before I
would believe that, however, I felt I needed to round up every single
different brand of distilled water I could find, and test all of them
using the Com 100
Evening Kathryn,
At 01:34 PM 10/22/2008, you wrote:
It is funny, I can get it at the grocery store. It is one specific
brand, and says on the label suitable for laboratory use.
I think some labs, if not most, use double distilled water.
Likely they have selected brands or sources, or make
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:34:37 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
It is funny, I can get it at the grocery store. It is one specific
brand, and says on the label suitable for laboratory use. Before I
would believe that, however, I felt I needed to round up every single
On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:20 PM, indi wrote:
I time mine manually (and stir it manually) as well. 14 gauge .
silver wire electrodes, and a ventec neon sign power transformer,
which is plugged into a 3 amp variac (I prefer to crank up the voltage
slowly just in case anything goes wrong). I do
I once asked an expert in measurements a question about a related
topic. His reply included the phrase spurious accuracy as a term
used in his field. I think it boils down to question below. At some
point, it's just not important.
On Saturday, Oct 18, 2008, at 23:50 Asia/Tokyo, Wayne
: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
I once asked an expert in measurements a question about a related topic.
His reply included the phrase spurious accuracy as a term used in his
field. I think it boils down to question below. At some point, it's
just
Well I hope it never happens because 'they' will find a way of charging
us for it and regulating etc., so 'they' can somehow make money out of
it. Either that, or 'they' will stop us using it altogether like the
poor bloke with the Rife machine! You must be a tough nut to crack is
all I can
with you all the way Jonathan! dee
Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I once asked an expert in measurements a question about a related
topic. His reply included the phrase spurious accuracy as a term
used in his field. I think it boils down to question below. At
some point, it's just not
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Hmmm...
Is indi in reality Mike Monet?
Sounds like him.
Remember?
Chuck
de ja fu -
The feeling that somewhere, somehow you've been hit in the
head like this before.
On 10/20/2008 12:39:02 PM, indi (indi.sha
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:55 PM, indi wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:13:43 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
How many times have you calculated ppm ? ( Instead of guessing )
What do you have then ? A combination of all the junk or one item
only ?
I am stuck with guessing,
Morning Kathryn,
At 09:01 AM 10/21/2008, you wrote:
You got my attentions this morning. grin
I am stuck with guessing, at present -- like everyone else here.
Some people certainly have been a bit touchy about that, but this
is not supposed to be an emotional issue -- it's a simple
you
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the
well-being of people in general. Like my Mother, for whom the doctor
said so is right up there with it's in the bible. Or my best friend,
dead now because the doctors were the authority,
Morning Wayne,
(Beatific smile)
On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Wayne Fugitt wrote:
Morning Kathryn,
At 09:01 AM 10/21/2008, you wrote:
You got my attentions this morning. grin
I am stuck with guessing, at present -- like everyone else here.
Some people certainly have been a bit touchy
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:01:13 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
The question is, do you calculate the ppm? You don't have to guess
much, and if you prefer, you can do the calculations for error
resolution too, then you know exactly how much guessing you are
doing, or as they
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:16:22 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the
well-being of people in general. Like my Mother, for whom the
doctor said so is right up there with
too true Kathryn! dee
Clayton Family wrote:
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
It all seems to do with money, and who is going to be making a bundle
off of what product, and through supression of competitor's products.
This world is not much fun for us pollyanna types.
Best
On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:13 PM, indi wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:16:22 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the
well-being of people in general. Like my Mother, for whom the
system. M
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From: Clayton Familymailto:clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
Seriously
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:14:48 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
The FDA is one of the agencies I was referring to in my paragraph
below. They seem to have one company that they are not blocking in
developing certain silver applications, but are definitely hostile to
many
Faith writes:
I do not agree with this at all. Smacks of paranoia to me.
I understand your feeling, Faith, but please do understand that plenty
of people have less faith in the system than you do.
Twenty years ago you wouldn't have predicted that millions of school
children would be on
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:55:15 -0700
Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote:
I agree with Kathryn, It might become illegal to be well without any
supervision of the government regulated Pharma Companies, or their
physicians.
Oh, I doubt that very much. For one thing, it costs really big money
Hey, ya gotta keep up with this stuff! Progress, doncha know!? There
are now many more FDA approved meds for psychological problems,
particularly for the young, whose complaints are ignorable and whose
independence is compromised at best. History; Prozac Nation.
Ritalin; speed for subteens.
I do not agree with this at all. Smacks of paranoia to me. Faith G.
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From: Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
I agree with Kathryn, It might become illegal
means erroneous or deceitful. Faith G.
- Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
I once asked an expert in measurements a question about a related
It sounds like you are unaware of Faraday? How can that be? You sound
like an educated woman, and are likely to be able to do the
calculations without trouble- or not?
If one has pure water and pure silver, then?
No unknowns.
Just facts.
Calculatable, repeatable, ergo, Provable.
Or were
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
I agree with Kathryn, It might become illegal to be well without any
supervision of the government regulated Pharma Companies, or their
physicians. Seriously I appreciate the freedom we still have to share our
experiences via the internet. I hope
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:39:06 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
It sounds like you are unaware of Faraday?
No, actually I am not unaware of Faraday, I just fail to see how
his work can be used to provide me with detailed chemical analysis of
a given substance. As I said,
On Oct 21, 2008, at 7:06 PM, indi wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:39:06 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
It sounds like you are unaware of Faraday?
No, actually I am not unaware of Faraday, I just fail to see how
his work can be used to provide me with detailed chemical
A German medical doctor named Mathais Rath makes really extraordinary
claims about the supposed evils of pharmaceutical companies. He has
an extensive website that is well worth reading. I would characterize
his perspective as extreme, but given the facts of history, not
paranoid.
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:35:55 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
I am having a hard time believing that you are such a skeptic that
you do not even believe the pure distilled water sold for laboratory
use is not really pure water. But maybe that is what you are saying.
No,
Thanks Mike. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Faith writes:
I do not agree with this at all. Smacks of paranoia to me.
I understand your
- Original Message -
[I just want to know what *is* in that solution. Otherwise, what good is an
EC meter reading? Until I can determine that, I just don't see much value in
either guessing or calculating PPM, because the question PPM of what? has
not been answered. This is not to say
At 12:54 PM 10/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS.
That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known methods
which
are quite precise.
And a Chemist cannot usually operate the huge combination of
that the Proof is in the puddingMy CS pudding
really works, even though I have no proof as to why
Ruth
- Original Message -
From: Indi
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
One Degree or 10
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:39:24 -0500
Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com wrote:
Wow... now we are crazy, irresponsible, loonies because we believe
in CS?!?! Proof or no proof, WHO CARES... WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT
MAKE?
WHY ALL THE CAPS, LOL?
Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one
to BE a mechanic.
Anti-intellectualism was not an issue in my post.
Ruth
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From: indi
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:39:24 -0500
Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:59:14 -0500
Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com wrote:
Sorry for the caps if it was offensive to anyone.
No, not offensive. It did make me laugh, though.
:)
This IS a
community of caring individuals otherwise we wouldn't be privy to the
vast knowledge and testing
Evening Neville,
I have been out of town for 3 days, and you are getting ahead. grin
At 11:54 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS.
That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known
methods which
are quite
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:13:43 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
Howdy Wayne,
Not one Scientist or chemist or CS maker can measure the
ppm, with a TWO BIT
EC Meter. ( Even the instrument manufactures tell you that,
.. no ppm meter exists )
Unless, they
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:59 -0400
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
If all you have is silver, water and it's various combinations,
That's rather large if, and you keep choosing to ignore it. If one
proceeds to build a mountain of logic upon a fragile premise one can
create quite a
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:15:00 -0400
indi indi.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:59 -0400
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
If all you have is silver, water and it's various combinations,
That's rather large if, and you keep choosing to ignore it. If one
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Quote:
[If CS becomes popular enough, we will see Big Pharma improving on it with
proprietary manufacturing processes
! bg
N.
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Evening Neville,
I have been out of town for 3 days, and you are getting ahead. grin
At 11:54 AM 10/18/2008
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:33:08 +1030
Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com wrote:
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Quote:
[If CS becomes popular enough, we
Evening Neville,
At 04:18 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
Hey, I hope there are two Nevilles here, either that or you're under
the mistaken belief I am posting these quotes you keep assigning to
me. g I can get into enough trouble on my own thanks very much,
without the assistance of others! bg
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:33:08 +1030
Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: indi
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Evening Neville,
At 04:18 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
Hey, I hope there are two Nevilles here, either that or you're under
Hmmm...
Is indi in reality Mike Monet?
Sounds like him.
Remember?
Chuck
de ja fu -
The feeling that somewhere, somehow you've been hit in the
head like this before.
On 10/20/2008 12:39:02 PM, indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008
Morning Neville,
At 08:40 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
You'd probably want to send it to a lab. Around three hundred dollars for
true answers. I realize it isn't cheap (or even affordable for most of us).
A good chemical analysis is not something an untrained person can do at home.
People get
Thanks Wayne. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Morning Neville,
At 08:40 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
You'd probably want to send it to a lab
One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS.
That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known methods which
are quite precise.
And a Chemist cannot usually operate the huge combination of
instruments used for
some measurements,
But the thing is Indi, that if all of us had reacted the way you did,
and would not try it because there was not any provable data, then we
would *all* have been very badly off indeed, and would *never* have ever
used EIS! I for one, would have been much the poorer in health.
Therefore I
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: CSMeasuring or Guessing
[Morning Neville,
You'd probably want to send it to a lab. Around three hundred dollars for
true answers. I realize it isn't
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