I thought this subject was now over. Dee
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From: sol
Date: 05/11/07 05:47:06
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: raw feeding vs commercial foods, was Re: CSMelamine chemical
reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Dee wrote:
Humans have a long
digestive tract
I used BHT before I was using CS. It worked very well for me. It is an
antioxidant. I did not consume it every day long term in my food. I used
it as a short term therapeutic agent. Big difference, huge.
And the cancer studies are, well, you would have to read them and know
what any
Dee wrote:
Humans have a long
digestive tract and grinding teeth which are designed to deal with the tough
vegetable cellulose and fibre which would pass through a dog undigested,
Actually I have read an extremely convincing article, complete with
measurments of the intestines of various
Maybe this is because they are not getting the right nutrients and are
hungry.' my dog when fed on Burns food, ate dog poo because she was starving
The problem vanished when switched to raw. My dog will not even eat bread
but he will lick the butter off! Dee
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:35
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Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Me too, and I dislike eating out especially if they do not offer fresh
Veggies.
Our food supply is at serious risk and most of us are
blissfully unaware or in denial. Those of us
I don't believe this is the reason because when I did raw feed they
still ate grains, leafy green herbs and would do anything for some
veggies like carrots, tomatoes and nuts for example. I followed all the
guidelines for raw feeding so it was not a deficiency -- they just ate
other stuff
, yet we continue to survive, sometimes thrive
and evolve.
Janet
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From: Garnet
Date: 09/05/2007 04:37:35
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Me too, and I dislike eating out
I have to say I find it incredible that you think *my* position is weak in
this argument! Still, I will rephrase that then. You *prefer* to feed
your dogs over-processed food which contains things like salt (a lot of it)
ethoxyquinn etc., 'food' which is heated to over 375 degrees, over raw
Garnet wrote on 5/9/2007, 7:19 AM:
Huh, best -- now you are taking my word and twisting them Dee. Tsk,
tsk, this makes your position look very weak if you have to resort to
those sort of tactics. Better back that bus up cause it's not helping
your credibility in this discussion.
No
Garnet wrote on 5/7/2007, 9:17 AM:
Even BHT is a good antioxidant and does not actually cause cancer --
give enough of anything to a lab rat bred to get cancer and well, it
gets cancer. I use BHT therapeutically to kill herpes, any envelope
virus actually.
Hi Janet -
The Center for
At 10:36 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
Actually I am not in agreement with this statement. Wolves will eat
anything rather than starve, so I would have to say that yes they do eat
grains. Also they eat the whole animal so any undigested or partially
digested grains in the GI tract of prey animals is
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Janet,
Have you studied the intestinal tracks of dogs? The reason I feed a raw diet
is I want all grains out of the diet since their intestinal track
Janet,
Have you studied the intestinal tracks of dogs? The reason I feed a
raw diet is I want all grains out of the diet since their intestinal
track is not designed to deal with grains. I live in a rural area
and feed prey method to my dogs. None get are exposed to any
chemicals here at
/2007 01:46:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Hi Dee,
I want to preface this post with the caveat that I am responding to this
As a trained scientist, one who has been coached in analyzing data and
Determining
will not change. This is their choice but I know what I
would rather feed mine! Dee
---Original Message---
From: Garnet
Date: 08/05/2007 01:46:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Hi Dee,
I want to preface this post
Janet,
Have you studied the intestinal tracks of dogs?
Yes and that of horses, humans and ruminants as well as some reptiles.
The reason I feed a
raw diet is I want all grains out of the diet since their intestinal
track is not designed to deal with grains.
Actually I am not in agreement
The raw diet kills too Terri, if not done properly. I know first had of
three very valuable puppies that died at birth due to the mother being
offered her choice of foods. I was on all the lists and reading all the
websites, that insisted dogs eat what they need when given a choice. I
did the
---Original Message---
From: Garnet
Date: 07/05/2007 14:18:03
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Could hope to produce and breaking her heart, well I will stick with a
Good quality kibble. There is no 100% guarantee that raw
At 07:07 AM 5/6/2007, you wrote:
I have read articles that are insisting that it was really a problem with a
type of rat poison that was in the pet food and this melamine isn't the true
problem. If you think back to when it was originally reported, they did
report a finding of rat poison. There
Melamine is not in insecticides. It is neither toxic enough, nor is it
a carrier or liquid.
Marshall
sol wrote:
Wasn't it first thought that it was in an insecticide used on the
wheat crops?
sol
Dan Nave wrote:
The wheat gluten was adulterated on purpose with melamine in
--
The Silver
/05/2007 14:18:03
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Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Could hope to produce and breaking her heart, well I will stick with a
Good quality kibble. There is no 100% guarantee that raw food is not
Contaminated either. Look
Garnet wrote:
The raw diet kills too Terri, if not done properly. I know first had
of three very valuable puppies that died at birth due to the mother
being offered her choice of foods. I was on all the lists and reading
all the websites, that insisted dogs eat what they need when given a
hundreds, so I think the odds are definitely with raw feeding, but
if your dog is one of the unlucky few then you have to do what you think is
best. Dee
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From: Garnet
Date: 05/07/07 15:20:56
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical
Thanks for that information.
sol
Marshall Dudley wrote:
Melamine is not in insecticides. It is neither toxic enough, nor is
it a carrier or liquid.
Marshall
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The melamine was combined with a chemical that made it deadly. I can't find
the page it was on, but was on the original website. I'll try to find it...
On 5/7/07, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Thanks for that information.
sol
Marshall Dudley wrote:
Melamine is not in insecticides.
hundreds, so I think the odds are definitely with raw feeding, but
if your dog is one of the unlucky few then you have to do what you think is
best. Dee
---Original Message---
From: Garnet
Date: 05/07/07 15:20:56
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical
toxic.
Paula
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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Wasn't it first thought that it was in an insecticide used on the wheat
crops?
sol
Wasn't it first thought that it was in an insecticide used on the wheat
crops?
sol
Dan Nave wrote:
The wheat gluten was adulterated on purpose with melamine in
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found this interesting about the discussion of melamine recently.
http://www.fvma.com/displaycommon.cfm?an=1subarticlenbr=184
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day.sut...@gmail.com
How on earth would melamine get in animal food? The mind boggles! Dee
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From: Day Sutton
Date: 04/05/2007 15:33:20
To: Silver Post
Subject: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Found this interesting about the discussion of melamine
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
How on earth would melamine get in animal food? The mind boggles! Dee
---Original Message---
From: Day Sutton
Date: 04/05/2007 15:33:20
To: Silver Post
/2007 15:33:20
To: Silver Post
Subject: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
Found this interesting about the discussion of melamine recently.
http://www.fvma.com/displaycommon.cfm?an=1subarticlenbr=184
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: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)
It's produced in China and was added to wheat gluten to increase the
protein content. I'm sure it's not just in animal food either, most
likely animal feed and sad but most likely true, in people food (like
prepackaged foods).
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Subject: Re: CSMelamine
Try writing to the company whos label states it's in their product and ask
them that question. See what answer they give you.
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From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
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Sent: Wednesday
It *is* non toxic if 'used as directed'. Surely, no-one would let their
children play with things that are supposed to be for cleaning! Dee
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Thank you for your reply,
I guess it is the same thing, I read on another site that little kids think
it is an
Dee wrote:
Used as directed, it is brilliant, non toxic stuff. You don't have to use
any chemicals, only water, and I have never used anything like it.
Obviously, you wouldn't let kids play with it! Dee
I'm unconvinced it isn't toxic. If the eraser is used up in use, the
melamine
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From: Sol
Date: 05/03/07 17:02:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMelamine
I'm unconvinced it isn't toxic. If the eraser is used up in use, the
Melamine substance that makes up the eraser goes somewhere.
I think I'll stick to my Vaporetto.
Sol
Subject: Re: CSMelamine
I'm unconvinced it isn't toxic. If the eraser is used up in use, the
Melamine substance that makes up the eraser goes somewhere.
I think I'll stick to my Vaporetto.
Sol
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Mary said,
I am a non toxic house cleaner everyone tells me to
use Mr. clean magic erasers, for a long time I could
not find what it is made from. Well I found it--
melamine foam.
Is this the same melamine found in the pet foods that
are killing our pets
See:
Thank you for your reply,
I guess it is the same thing, I read on another site that little kids think it
is an eraser, when they get crayon on their faces they rub it off with this
product but the product is causing 3rd degree burns and it spreads.
I guess I will never use that. I knew it was
Subject: Re: CSMelamine
Thank you for your reply,
I guess it is the same thing, I read on another site that little kids think it
is an eraser, when they get crayon on their faces they rub it off with this
product but the product is causing 3rd degree burns and it spreads.
I guess I will never use
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 7:47 pm, mborg...@att.net wrote:
Point is, is this the same stuff that pets are dying of, is it not
I only care if this product is NON TOXIC.
There are hundreds of chemicals out there that will do a fantastic job on
everything but they are toxic. I have actually
this email complaining bla bla bla. I'm really getting sick of it.
Doris
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From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 5:11:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine
Thank you for your reply,
I guess it is the same thing, I
Thank You for that information
mary
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From: Langsley itisi...@gmail.com
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 7:47 pm, mborg...@att.net wrote:
Point is, is this the same stuff that pets are dying of, is it not
I only care if this product is NON
Try writing to the company whos label states it's in their product and ask them
that question. See what answer they give you.
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From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 7:47:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSMelamine
Point
List,
I finally found something that really cleans electrodes quickly and
effectively. Melamine sponges work wonders. Two swipes and the
anode/cathode are perfectly clean. Rinse once and you get CS as clear
as with brand new silver -odes.
These sponges were first marketed in Germany and
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