Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Subject: Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy etc. Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been mostened. Place the sponges on both sides

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-06 Thread Ode Coyote
daily. Thanks. PT From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy etc. Get

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-06 Thread Ode Coyote
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-06 Thread jaxi
Ode, does it work or not? I have no itching. Only a purplish red pustule that seems to be getting lighter daily. Thanks. PT From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-05 Thread Ode Coyote
At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy etc. Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been mostened. Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 seconds or longer so that

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-05 Thread PT Ferrance
bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy etc. Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been mostened.  Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 seconds

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-05 Thread jaxi
...@windstream.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM *Subject:* Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy etc. Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire

Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth]

2011-01-05 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks, Jaxi.  It definitely went over my head :-) PT From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 12:24:07 PM Subject: Re: CSspider bite [zapper myth] His explanation went a wee bit over my head.  Or I just need

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
the contacts are so close together. When they were farther apart it didn't hurt but the stimulation felt very disconcerting, somehow. Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? From: Peter Rebaudo wrote: Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:26:33 Hi: A barbecue piezorlectric igniter produces 25,000 volts. Anybody

CSSpider Bite Zapper? ( 25K X 2 Seconds )

2004-05-14 Thread Wayne Fugitt
A barbecue piezorlectric igniter produces 25,000 volts. Anybody can has any suggestions how to measure the current? The Time Factor is important as well. 25,000 Volts needs to deliver a 2 Second Pulse whereas a 50,000 Volt pulse needs only one second. The Total Energy is what

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? ( 25K X 2 Seconds )

2004-05-14 Thread Christine Carleton
AT 01:05 your the only one...Goodnight...CC From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:51:58 -0500 The Time Factor is important as well. 25,000 Volts needs to deliver a 2 Second Pulse whereas a 50,000 Volt pulse needs only one

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Take the output and put through a resistor. Then connect a scope across the resister. Use ohms law to compute the current from the voltage generated and the resistor's value. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Hi: A barbecue piezorlectric igniter produces 25,000 volts. Anybody can has any

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Nave
this on any tick or mosquito bites I get... Doesn't feel bad at all, since the contacts are so close together. When they were farther apart it didn't hurt but the stimulation felt very disconcerting, somehow. Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? From: Peter Rebaudo wrote: Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-14 Thread Christine Carleton
From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:02:26 -0700 Doesn't feel bad at all, since the contacts are so close together. When they were farther apart it didn't hurt but the stimulation

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-14 Thread Peter Rebaudo
Hi Dan, Marshal, All I read your post on the igniter . I don't understand your design, Where is the washer? Is the current flowing directly through the flesh or the spark jumps? I installed the igniter in a tube 1 OD and 5/8 ID, the center electrode protrudes 1/8 beyond the tube. When I press

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Nave
* From: Christine Carleton wrote: * Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:22:32 From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:02:26 -0700 Doesn't feel bad at all, since the contacts are so close together. When they were farther apart

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread M. G. Devour
Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000 volts and 350 milliamps? Or is there a particular stun gun that can be bought and modified, and if so how to modify? Ummm, guys? Before you go running off to build something like

CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread daddybob
Not too many Brown Recluses down here, but the Black Widows will carry you away. We dare not reach under something without looking under it or turning it over from April to October, and that's not to mention the fire ants, copperheads and rattlers. So does anyone know how to build a homemade

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000 volts and 350 milliamps? Or is there a particular stun gun that can be bought and modified, and if so how to modify? Ummm, guys? Before you go running off

CSSpider Bite Zapper

2004-05-13 Thread DByron
With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what functioning brain cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of zapping myself with 25,000 volts. Has anyone seen any information about the MINIMUM voltage necessary to destroy venom? DByron -- The Silver List is a

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
I would just like to point out that anyone whose chiropractor has an electro-stim unit can be treated by that chiropractor for any kind of bite. An electro-stim unit passes electrical current gently through the tissues and does the same job without any jolts or pain. Of course, there's the

RE: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
---and, using a thermometer or testing the water in a pot with your finger, heat the egg and then apply it to the bite. JOH -Original Message- From: daddybob [mailto:daddybob52...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Not too

RE: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
I think the instructions for that were in one of the links I recently posted. JOH -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Daddybob asks: So does anyone know

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread DByron
Hello Marmar845, I'm assuming you've had direct experience, then, seeing an electro-stim unit stop the necrotic action of a spider bite. I'd sure appreciate hearing more details. Thanks, DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tom
or lawn-mower. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/13/04 10:52:09 AM EST, laqueren...@mindspring.com writes: I'm assuming you've had direct experience, then, seeing an electro-stim unit stop the necrotic action of a spider bite. I'd sure appreciate hearing more details. Hi DByron -- yes I've had direct experience with

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tom
When my wife was bit by a brown recluse last year we used a CS compress and I did use the godzilla but later in the day. I believe te CS neutralized it though as I thought of the godzilla later in the day but still she had just a bruise where the bite was and the uclerating necrosis had

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread daddybob
M. G. Devour wrote: Ummm, guys? Before you go running off to build something like this would you please check those specs? It seems to me that over 1/3 of an amp at 25 kilovolts is a rather large amount of energy -- likely lethal. It's certainly enough to stop the heart if used

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
In the case of a stun gun, that may be right. A stun gun produces a very short duration spike, 20 or so times a second. If the spike is a microsecond in length, then the power would be way less than one watt average. Marshall daddybob wrote: M. G. Devour wrote: Ummm, guys? Before you go

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Marshall, microsecond in length, then the power would be way less than one watt average. Not questioning your calculations and expertise, but it feels like more than that. grin I have been shocked by 700 VDC which was hefty, and also have been hit by lightening. The

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Message - From: daddybob daddybob52...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 6:22 AM Subject: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Not too many Brown Recluses down here, but the Black Widows will carry you away. We dare not reach under something without looking under

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
] electric chairs to be sure they are not safe. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: CSSpider Bite Zapper With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what functioning brain cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of zapping myself with 25,000 volts. Has anyone seen any information about the MINIMUM

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tony Moody
Thats probably 25kV output. Drain on a 9 or 12 v battery would be in the region of 350mA but even that is over hefty IMHO. Tony On 13 May 2004 at 10:15, M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Peter Rebaudo
Hi: A barbecue piezorlectric igniter produces 25,000 volts. Anybody can has any suggestions how to measure the current? PeterR -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your