CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread Neville
Hi All, I only joined a couple of days ago, so by way of introduction...I have been involved, and have involved my family and their animals, with EICS for several years. I personally ingest a quantity of ICS every morning as a, 'daily maintenance program', using my own equipment and methods,

Re: CSbrewing question

2008-08-29 Thread Ode Coyote
They are laying the current to those electrodes letting them pull as much current as they will at full power supply voltage. Not current controlled at around 1 milliamp per square inch of electrode, but with a maximum current limit somewhere around 20 milliamps to prevent fires if the

Re: CS99% DMSO=Nebuliser

2008-08-29 Thread Ode Coyote
How pure is chemical soup of your body? How pure is the air? Unless that .9% is Ricin toxin. I'd not worry about it. Ode At 12:48 PM 8/28/2008 +, you wrote: Hello Group, Went to the local Tractor Supply store and bought a pint of DMSO that is only 99% pure. Can I still use this in my

Re: CSbrewing question - and Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
but how do you do that Steve? My normal batch takes about eight hours to make which is using a silverpuppy and a quart size container. My DW is really pure (000) on the TDS meter. The finished article measures either 7 or 8 on the TDS meter so I thought this was approximately 14 to 16ppm.

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi Dee, I must say, I had to check twice to be sure that wasy Wayne making that posting and not Ken! GRIN Since the 'puppy will do the auto-shut-off thing, my suggestion is to cycle the thing twice a day and be done with it... Morning and bedtime, decant, re-fill, push the button and leave

CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Good Morning Dee, At 03:56 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: dee PS sorry if I haven't understood your very detailed analysis, but I'm afraid I need a lay persons version - not being very up on the science of it all. I read all the replies and statements relative to your questions and possible

Re: CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
Hi Neville -- welcome to the group. Yes, you are correct -- you should just jump in with any remarks and/or questions on your mind. Am I correct in my assumption that you're located in England? MA -- Original message from "Neville" nevillem...@bigpond.com: -- Hi

Re: CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Everyone will be delighted to answer any questions you may have Neville, and welcome to the list. dee Neville wrote: Hi All, I only joined a couple of days ago, so by way of introduction...I have been involved, and have involved my family and their animals, with EICS for several years. I

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
thanks for the reply Wayne, but I have to say that if I had read this before buying a generator, then quite frankly, I wouldn't have bothered! To say that this puts an even more complicated slant on things would be an understatement I think. I will just stick to letting the SP do it all for

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
Hi Dee. I'm in the same position as you -- I'm not engineeringly savvy, and I don't want to be. I also have a demanding lifestyle, and don't have time to fool around with all this stufff. I just want to make CS so I don't have to buy it. I just wanted to reply to one thing though -- you

Re: CSbrewing question - and Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration

2008-08-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Dee To a large extent I am like Wayne. I just can't make CS without a meter to measure voltage and current. However, unlike Wane I would supplement my DIY rig with a commercial unit. There are times when I would like the Fire and Forget operation of a commercial unit. From what I have read on

RE: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Nave
Wayne, You're not that blue guy, are you?... Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ? Good Morning Dee, At

RE: CSREPOST with typo corrections

2008-08-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Sorry to add to your inbox to correct my original typos but one correction is needed to make sense. I sent the original post via Blackberry and my bad vision doesn't let me proofread very well. Changes in bold Dee To a large extent I am like Wayne. I just can't make CS without a meter to

CSThank You.

2008-08-29 Thread Neville
A warm Thank You to those who gave words of encouragement by way of welcome. In answer to the question relating to my residing in England...No, I'm afraid not, I am a few thousand kilometers south-east...Australia, Thanks for asking though as I forgot to mention that. It was not my intention

CSThe Blue Guy

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Good Morning Dan, At 09:24 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: Wayne, You're not that blue guy, are you?... No, He lives just down the street. I taught him how to make CS. He was a little pale, and I though he needed to be a different color. So, I altered a few things, hoping to turn him

Re: CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread Rowena
MA, I think Neville might be from down under, which would mean he is tucked up in bed right now (unless he works nights) and won't be around for a few hours yet! R Hi Neville -- welcome to the group. Yes, you are correct -- you should just jump in with any remarks and/or questions on your

Re: CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread Rowena
Oh. Oops. Neville is a night bird! Or he lives in the West! R Good night, Neville, race you to Dreamland! I am a few thousand kilometers south-east...Australia, MA, I think Neville might be from down under, which would mean he is tucked up in bed right now (unless he works nights) and

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Ah, now this is the nub of what I have been trying to say! Well done MA - you put it in a nutshell! Let me reiterate: if I try and speed things up - by whatever method - I will probably compromise the CS - i.e. it will not be such high quality as the stuff I am making which takes longer. Is

Re: CSbrewing question - and Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Thank you for taking the trouble to reply in depth Steve, I do appreciate it and I did actually understand most of what you say lol I have decided to stick with the normal running time which seems to be making good CS - unless of course, I'm pushed for time. Thanks to all who offered help.

Re: CSREPOST with typo corrections

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Don't worry Steve, I managed to understand what you meant anyway. I think my understanding of English and grammar is probably a lot better than my understanding of all things electric, physics, etc.,! dee Norton, Steve wrote: Sorry to add to your inbox to correct my original typos but one

CSArgument against CS damage to environment

2008-08-29 Thread Norton, Steve
If this has already been posted I missed it. If not, FYI: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/SilverNoThreat.pdf -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
OK -- see, you're trying to nail down something that is not nail-downable without a lot of complicating factors. It *may* not be as high quality, unless your bottle of water is higher quality than the last bottle, or some other mitigating factor,etc. That's what everyone is trying to say --

RE: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Nave
Not quite. The manufacturers have set up their systems so that you get a repeatable brew of CS. If you change any of the variables you risk changing the CS. Whether this would be of lesser quality, to a degree that it matters, is the question. With the SilverPuppy, you have control over

Re: CSArgument against CS damage to environment

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Great article Steve, I've kept this in my file for future reference for sceptics. dee Norton, Steve wrote: If this has already been posted I missed it. If not, FYI: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/SilverNoThreat.pdf -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
I think I've got it now MA. dee marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK -- see, you're trying to nail down something that is not nail-downable without a lot of complicating factors. It *may* not be as high quality, unless your bottle of water is higher quality than the last bottle, or some other

Re: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Dee
Thanks Dave (sorry Mike) one thing about all this is, that it is gradually giving me a better idea what the whole thing is about. I don't think I will ever fully understand the intricacies of it all, but at least I am getting a glimmer about some of the mechanics. I suppose that's what it's

CSQuality Not Defined

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening MA, At 08:45 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: -- you don't have to use part of the old batch to make a new one. No one said you did. You can if you want to, as it apparently speeds things up. Is that hearsay evidence, speculation, or have you tried it ? But as I understand it, that

CSA Non Conformist, maybe....... maybe not.

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Neville. There is no time limit, ... jump in when you are ready. At 09:48 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: It was not my intention to participate as early as this but I can't resist supporting the points 'wayne fugitt' made. I make my own generators and they are not 'current limited'

Re: CSA Non Conformist, maybe....... maybe not.

2008-08-29 Thread B Magnatta
I just love the idea of automatic. If the quantity/quality/color varies a bit. I don't care as long as it works. I'm not sick, just using for prevention and oral care. I'm going to make some up for my husband who has knee problems which I believe is an infection of some sort. It responded

RE: CSRule of Thumb, doe not get it, Who wrote the rules anyway ?

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Ev At 12:24 PM 8/29/2008, you wrote: If the electrodes are not returned to the normal position before shutoff, the brew will have a lower ionic content of silver (lower ppm). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted

CSMoving the Electrodes

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Dan, I follow what you said, and do not disagree with anything, At 12:24 PM 8/29/2008, you wrote: If the electrodes are not returned to the normal position before shutoff, the brew will have a lower ionic content of silver (lower ppm). This part is interesting and offers some ideas

Re: CSbrewing question - and Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Nave
Steve, You are right, of course, about the efficacy of CS based on particle. However, Marshall Dudley has shown that adding a small amount of H2O2 to the CS *after* it is made, will cause any large agglomerated particles to break up into very small particles. I don't know why we don't just

Re: CSQuality Not Defined

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
Wayne -- try to keep up! The sentence that you quoted was in reply to Dee's remark that the one thing she had learned in all of the discourse, was that she needed to add some CS from a previous batch to the new batch. She doesn't. Dee's original question was: if she tries to speed up her

Re: CSA Non Conformist, maybe....... maybe not.

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
Me too, Barb -- automatic is great! I hope the CS helps your husband! MA -- Original message from "B Magnatta" mom.magna...@gmail.com: -- I just love the idea of automatic.If the quantity/quality/color varies a bit. I don't care as long as it works. I'm

RE: CSThe Blue Guy

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Nave
Afternoon Wayne, Send me your picture. I'll send you one of me... Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Blue Guy Good Morning Dan, At 09:24 AM 8/29/2008, you

RE: CSThe Blue Guy

2008-08-29 Thread marmar845
Heck guys -- who don't you both send them to the list? Then we can all see what ya look like!! MA -- Original message from "Dan Nave" dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com: -- Afternoon Wayne, Send me your picture. I'll send you one of me... Dan-Original

RE: CSThe Blue Guy

2008-08-29 Thread Dan Nave
It won't go thru the list, and besides, it's kind of a quid pro quo sort of thing... If you want to exchange your picture, let me know. Dan From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:18

CSPolarity Reversal

2008-08-29 Thread SJY
I am interested in your educated thoughts regarding polarity reversal of constant current DC being supplied to the electrodes. Specifically, how would one optimize the frequency of polarity reversals, given brew the time (and possibly the current), to minimize the buildup of crud on the

RE: CSPolarity Reversal

2008-08-29 Thread Norton, Steve
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CSCanadian Maple leaf coins

2008-08-29 Thread Sickleave48045
How long and to what temperature would you have to heat Canadian Maple Leaf coins to get the silver back to soft silver. My understanding it is hard from the stamping (working), silver gets hard from working it. If I melt it and pour into a flat sheet would it be soft. Maple Leaf coins are

Re: CSPolarity Reversal

2008-08-29 Thread Sickleave48045
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Re: CSA Non Conformist, maybe....... maybe not.

2008-08-29 Thread Neville
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: CSA Non Conformist, maybe... maybe not. and associated circuits could be used. It could even have the stop watch built in. ( or a timing

Re: CSPolarity Reversal

2008-08-29 Thread Neville
I have been discussing this 'crud' thing on another site. I don't believe it's possible to eliminate buildup, minimise it maybe, but not eliminate it, so I ask myself why try to eliminate it then, so at the moment I am looking into ways of saving it and by using h2o2 I can collect it to make a

Re: CSPolarity Reversal

2008-08-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
SJY wrote: I am interested in your educated thoughts regarding polarity reversal of constant current DC being supplied to the electrodes. Specifically, how would one optimize the frequency of polarity reversals, given brew the time (and possibly the current), to minimize the buildup of

Re: CSRule of Thumb, don't get it, etc, etc. comments

2008-08-29 Thread Steven Foss
Dear Silver List Comments FYI On using the power from the phone line. There is a possibility that you could short out a home or work phone electrical system using this approach. This especially true with older buildings or older homes. If your generator consists of basic (or simple)

Re: CSNew Member...

2008-08-29 Thread Deborah Gerard
Welcome to the group, debbie :) --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com Subject: CSNew Member... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 2:42 AM Hi All,   I only joined a couple of days ago, so by way of

CSIon Speed

2008-08-29 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Marshall, At 07:16 PM 8/29/2008, you wrote: The distance between the electrodes comes into play if there is sufficient time for the ions to travel to the other electrode during the cycle. I can visualize that, ... I think. Do you know the speed of the ions ? Trying to