[SLUG] Re: Re: [SLUG]kernel panic - security?

2000-07-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 11:21:18AM +1000, David wrote: kernel 2.2.5-15 were there any issues there? none that i know of. i was thinking of the 2.2.15 remotely exploitable knfs bug. i don't know how it would manifest itself, but you might be seeing someone trying to exploit it (and hopefully

[SLUG] Re: Stupid Regex questions..

2000-07-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 11:20:15AM +1000, Rick Welykochy wrote: Note that vi like perl is a smarty pants. A $ is only interpreted as a line end if it is the last char in the pattern. err.. thats the way its supposed to be (for basic regex's) position is also important with other characters,

[SLUG] Re: Wht the Old Junk in New *nix?

2000-07-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 11:46:44AM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: You start up a shell in an emacs window and then try to run vi in that shell (no flames about running vi under emacs, please :) but it wont start because it doesn't understand the 'emacs' terminal type. that's a bug with your

[SLUG] Re: Etherlink III card problem (Solution)

2000-07-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 02:21:17PM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: Ok you've caught me out faking Linux expertise, I have no idea where to even start with doing a core debug just because i think core dumps are _way_ underrated: gdb executable corefile at the gdb prompt, type things like

[SLUG] Re: Red Hat Slagging

2000-07-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 08:47:18AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Can be run via a script as a cron job to regularly check on certain packages. madcow:/tmp sudo crontab -l 7 0 * * * apt-get -qq update apt-get -q -d -y upgrade -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing

[SLUG] Re: Potato ISOs

2000-07-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 03:08:01PM +1000, Andrew Shipton wrote: ObSLUG: Upgrading from RH5.2 to Debian. Anyone know of a better way than blowing it away and starting again? someone was working on a phoenix.rpm, which would do the "upgrade" for you (without rebooting) ;) i don't know how far

[SLUG] Re: Priority of network traffic

2000-07-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 09:47:18AM +1000, Marshall, Joshua wrote: Is it possible, using IPChains or other means, to prioritise network traffic over a link? you **must** check out iproute2 (and tc). it does all this and is in the 2.2 kernels (you just need the two user-space tools) (apt-get

[SLUG] Re: Re: Priority of network traffic

2000-07-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 10:24:53AM +1000, Marshall, Joshua wrote: you **must** check out iproute2 (and tc). it does all this and is in the 2.2 kernels (you just need the two user-space tools) (apt-get install iproute2) Care to quote a good URL? http://www.ds9a.nl/2.4Networking/ read

[SLUG] Re: Kickarse GIMP Plugins (and stuff)

2000-07-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 12:24:18PM +1000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: Mabye it's just that I haven't spend the amount of time I've spent on GIMP as I've spent on Photoshop but the GIMP interface SUCKS. In my normal X working, I have sloppy focus and autoraise switched on. The GIMP's many panels

[SLUG] Re: OT - Lunar Eclipse

2000-07-15 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 09:48:18PM +1000, Tom Massey wrote: 'Linux Lithographs Lunar Lunacy!!' (OK, maybe not lithographs - I was carried away by the assonance of it all ;-). alliteration. assonance is the repition of a vowel sound (oh god, i learnt something in english). /pedantry -- -

[SLUG] Re: Vga to serial card

2000-07-17 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 11:56:23AM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: I'm trying to track down a card I once saw which replaces the video card and converts vga to serial. I.E the box thinks you've got a vga graphics card but the output goes to a serial line which you've conveniently connected to a

[SLUG] Re: Hyperterm Equivelent in Linux

2000-07-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 04:15:49PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Peter Rundle wrote: I guess there is some kind of terminal equivelent to minicom to talk to the serial port when there is a console connected instead of a modem. Yep - minicom! or "seyon" for an X program (but minicom is

[SLUG] Re: Timezone and the Olympics Daylight savings..

2000-07-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 10:54:45PM +1000, Anthony Rumble wrote: Has anyone made a new timezone file to cover the Olympics's early daylight saving time? there was a discussion about this a while back (or was it on linux-users@unsw ?) the zoneinfo with glibc 2.1 already contains the

[SLUG] Re: modprobe woes

2000-07-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:38:27PM -0700, Peter Werner wrote: thanks for the replies, i tried with a single "options .." line and using ifconfig to bring them up, still wouldn't work, so i copied the driver and its working. maybe not the best solution but hey, its working now :) add

[SLUG] Re: subnetting a subnet

2000-07-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 09:06:17AM +1000, DaZZa wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Nigel Maddock wrote: 192.168.1.0-127 netmask 255.255.255.128 192.168.1.128-255 netmask 255.255.255.128 correct, but we're not supposed to use the top and bottom nets, are we? :)

[SLUG] Re: eeprom and BIOS settings

2000-07-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 12:53:29PM +1000, Jill Rowling wrote: Can PC linux view all the EPROM and hardware settings like you can on Sun hardware using eeprom? example: % eeprom | more cat /dev/nvram naturally, the format is probably bios-specific. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User

[SLUG] Re: Re: Hyperterm Equivelent in Linux

2000-07-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 09:42:47AM +1000, Dave Fitch wrote: [gus saying suns couldn't boot completely headless] yep (beat me to it Scott). Are you sure Angus you haven't got the autoboot property set to false or something? probably, i don't know much about sparcs.. i just keep triggering

[SLUG] Re: Re: subnetting a subnet

2000-07-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 08:43:40AM +1000, DaZZa wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Angus Lees wrote: Depends on the router involved. :-) Cisco's allow you to do so by adding one command to the configuration. :-) i like to set the broadcast address to .7, just to confuse newcomers That's

[SLUG] Re: Double mail.

2000-07-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 12:15:04PM +1000, Dan Treacy wrote: Just a quick note. Is it just me or is anyone else recieving duplicate SLUG mail?? It doesn't seem to be any other of my mail but it's always possible it could be something this end. to automatically delete duplicate mail, put this

[SLUG] Re: Re: Re: subnetting a subnet

2000-07-21 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 09:06:57AM +1000, DaZZa wrote: [using something other than "all ones hostid" for the broadcast address] OK, fine - but how do external sites to yours find your broadcast address? same as any other directed broadcast: you still have to know the address. routers

[SLUG] swap over network

2000-07-22 Thread Angus Lees
has anyone got this to work on a 2.2 kernel ? there used to be a patch against 2.0, that allowed swapping over nfs - but it seems to have been dropped in favour of 2.2's network block device. there is an additional patch to allow swapping over it, but that hangs quite soon after trying to read

[SLUG] Re: mount floppy prob

2000-07-24 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:38:27AM +1000, Dave Fitch wrote: Steve Kowalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Shera wrote: fstab /dev/fd0/mnt/floppyext2noauto, owner0 0 can you put "auto" instead of ext2 and it works it out? not sure. yes,

[SLUG] Re: Print server how to

2000-07-27 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 12:35:40PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a HOW-TO for setting up a simple print server using smb or lpr? err.. what was wrong with the Printing-HOWTO ? (/usr/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Printing-HOWTO.txt.gz in the debian package "doc-linux-text") -- - Gus --

[SLUG] Re: Debian printer setup

2000-07-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:22:33PM +1000, Graeme Merrall wrote: I have this errmm 'friend', who to avoid hassles about switching to Debian, we'll call Jeff. Anyway, my ermmm 'friend' is wondering if there is a printer setp tool similar to the control-panel applet in RedHat or does my ermmm

[SLUG] Re: Tshirt slogans!

2000-07-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 02:02:46AM +1000, James Wilkinson wrote: gawk; talk; date; wine; grep; touch; unzip; touch; gasp; finger; gasp; mount; fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean heh: append "make mrproper" -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

[SLUG] Re: Apache vs Squid

2000-07-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 01:22:42PM +1000, John Wiltshire wrote: What is the best for a web proxy on a home machine acting as a NAT box - Apache or Squid? I currently have apache set up (because it was easy), but I'm wondering if I would be better off using Squid. apache is probably quite a

[SLUG] Re: SQUID

2000-07-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 04:43:59PM +1000, Conrad Parker wrote: On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 04:10:52PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: Any squid guru's out there ? Is is possible to stop those bloody annoying doubleclick banners / links appearing ? there's a couple of good links to that kind of

[SLUG] Re: Apache/SQL type question.

2000-07-30 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 08:08:53AM +1000, DaZZa wrote: My question is thus - is it possible for a client to SQL query a web server running on the Linux box {Apache}, then have that Linux box pass the SQL query to the second web server, whereby that web server queries the SQL database server?

[SLUG] Re: DocBook

2000-08-03 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote: I've just gotten DocBook working, as i'm writting stuff in it, so i thought it be nice to view the finished product on my home machine :) But, my question is, how can i use jade to output in PS, TeX, etc... without

[SLUG] adsl under linux

2000-08-03 Thread Angus Lees
just in case anyone was wondering... adsl under linux works great. and its *incredibly* easy to setup. even easier than a normal isp dialup. thought i'd mention it here to show how easy it is, and since the two notes given cost me a phone call. basically (debian instructions): install pppoe

[SLUG] Re: jadetex (was Re: (no subject))

2000-08-03 Thread Angus Lees
please include a subject line, so people browsing the archives will know what we're talking about. On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:48:55PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote: I hate to be completly lame, but i don't have jadetex and pdfjadetex, any attempts to find them have failed if every you want

[SLUG] Re: Widespread authentication

2000-08-03 Thread Angus Lees
the existing pgp "infrastructure" already does most of what you want. pgp (use gpg, its much better) relies on people establishing "trust chains" between signatures. ie: B has verified and signed C's key. A has verified and signed B's key. A now has a "trust chain" to C and can assume that C's

[SLUG] Re: samba printer problems

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:21:23PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote: Also, I'm not sure but I think "writable =" must be yes for things to work. no. under smb, "printing = yes" is kinda like a d-w--w--wt directory. if you make it writable, you could probably mess with other print jobs, etc. -- -

[SLUG] telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
before everyone gets really excited about masquerading and adsl, i think i've uncovered a bug in telstra's end of the adsl connection.. more details later, i just want to confirm some things first: i presume i'm right in saying that i should *NEVER* see a fragmented TCP packet? (cos the DF bit

[SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:34:30PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Is themeability a cop-out for good design principles (a tough call given the experience behind Eazel)? i just don't get "skins" (/chrome/themes/whatever). from what little attention i've been paying to gui development, the goal seem

[SLUG] Re: porting c (Only a lil bit OT)

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:17:02AM +1000, Alex Salmon wrote: hi all i have made a nice lil c program that uses #include stdio.h #include sys/types.h #include sys/socket.h #include netinet/in.h It compiles and works nicly in linux with gcc, I am trying to run the prog in win but i am

[SLUG] Re: telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:26:26PM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: Have you read the docs that Andrew Morton pointed out yesterday? i've read goddamn everything (except the atm rfc's, i wasn't in the mood) since neither of you can stick to the questions without trying to guess what problems i

[SLUG] Re: Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:37:59PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: X resources *are* cool. Is there some kind of (slap me if this sounds backwards) GUI tool that will query an apps X resources and allow modification? I remember some discussion regarding where to find an apps X resources from a

[SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:23:02PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:40:51PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Whilst I was hoping for some debate and discussion on FS UI's and such, it's always good to solve a few troubles along the way... :) Nautilus looks as though it has

[SLUG] why windows for adsl? (was Re: ISPs and Permanent Static IPs)

2000-08-06 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 02:37:45PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: Then there's the question about a "windows only" install - I've been told from a (usually) reliable source that they will not connect anything up if you aren't running Evilware - why the hell they just can't bring their laptop to

[SLUG] Re: why windows for adsl? (was Re: ISPs and Permanent Static IPs)

2000-08-06 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 03:11:18PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: we brought a windows box in specially (we had to find a cdrom drive too), and let them install on that. Interesting - business or personal ?\ so far, its only the trial - so there's no difference. since our address is clarence st.

[SLUG] [OT] contracting agency?

2000-08-08 Thread Angus Lees
[sorry for the quite off-topic post] i'm looking at "upgrading" a legal firms network, and figured i'd better actually get professional indemnity assurance. the best (cheapest) way of doing this seems to be to do the work through one of those "cover" agencies. anyone recommend a good one?

[SLUG] Re: Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums

2000-08-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:30:09AM -0400, Daniel Freedman wrote: I'm trying to use md5sum (from Gnu Text Utilities) to compute a checksum for alot of files in my home directory or root directory. This wouldn't be a problem, except that I want it to compute the checksums on all files in ALL

[SLUG] Re: Debian equiviland of mmencode?

2000-08-09 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 04:59:10PM +1000, Rodos wrote: Two things are missing. One I can do without is basename. storm:~ apt-cache search basename shellutils - The GNU shell programming utilities. The other is mmencode which takes a file and base64 mime encodes it. This way you can create up

[SLUG] debian 2.2 (potato) released

2000-08-14 Thread Angus Lees
or at least, probably has been by the time you read this reminder: even if you have an extremely fast link, downloading cd images from www.debian.org via http|ftp is NOT the best way. check cdimage.debian.org and wander through the questions it asks you. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

[SLUG] Re: What are components?

2000-08-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 11:16:57AM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: As per earlier conversations, the open-source community has an urgent need to develop better means of re-use. Components are a likely part of that. how do components/plugins ease code re-use? surely they are all the same as using

[SLUG] Re: debian 2.2 (potato) released

2000-08-19 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 11:39:10PM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: the original 1.0 release of Debian trivia class=random there was no 1.0 release of debian. some magazine got hold of a fairly broken pre-release and gave it out labelled as "debian 1.0". thus the real debian release had to be

[SLUG] Re: Keyboard repeat disable

2000-08-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 09:17:32AM +1000, Peter Vogel wrote: Is there a common way of diabling the repeat on an average PC-AT keyboard, from the keyboard? xset r off (at least under X) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

[SLUG] Re: Linux Certification

2000-08-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 12:38:44PM +1000, marty wrote: i was wondering about certifications... i have no qualifications because i learnt for myself how to build, configure and test hardware and how to setup, use, network (etc.) linux... but how do i prove that to an employer without taking

[SLUG] Re: questions... squid...

2000-08-21 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 04:49:26PM +1000, Michael Fox wrote: We have 50/50 spread of users who are using locked down browsers while another lot of users don't. The issue we are having is we want to identify those users who don't bypass the squid server for local addresses. surely the squid

[SLUG] Re: Emacs meta-key

2000-08-21 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 08:19:22PM +1000, Nick Croft wrote: I installed potato on another machine (without going through slink). The alt-key won't function as meta in Emacs on this one. I've used xev to check. Sure enough alt is there, but not for Emacs. if you've told the X setup that you

[SLUG] Re: ipchains to get around cable/ADSL AUP?

2000-08-22 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:13:06AM -, Petra wrote: Also, the AUPs sometimes state that only one machine can be connected at once... again, using ip masquerading, how can they possibly know there's more than one machine connected? easy masquerading normally uses ports up in the 60k+

[SLUG] Re: workshop-full of junk available late this week

2000-08-22 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 01:21:41PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of carloads of stuff, including lots of made-up serial, power and other cables, since terryc is out, it looks like we'll need power cables, etc for the installfest this saturday.. any chance of offloading that sort of

[SLUG] Re: O.T N E 1 know about COMTECH education services sydney?...

2000-08-23 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 05:44:05AM -0700, ROSIE wrote: I am wondering if there is n 1 out there that has studied at Comtech Education Services in sydney. I am thinking of enrolling in a course there but seeing as though it is pretty costly $ I kinda need a run down on them from some 1

[SLUG] Re: ssh - Which one?

2000-08-24 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 04:48:52PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: I have noticed that there is an incompatibility between ssh 1.2.27 and openssh (the old signal 11 that I queried the other day - and it is definitely not hardware as it occurred on two separate pairs of machines) using openssh

[SLUG] Re: Help with rm

2000-08-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 08:45:40PM +1100, Scott Howard wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 11:50:02AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: I mean, why should all these companies employ someone to maintain `ls' (or similiar) when a better, free version is already available. Where do I start... * Because

[SLUG] Re: Shell Script question

2000-08-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 03:56:29PM +1100, Erich Schulz wrote: If this really is a simple subbstitution, try using gawk, it will automatically handle the line input, and you can set the filed seperator to be the comma (FS=,) which will parse all teh fields for you. just in case you were

[SLUG] Re: Multilink PPP

2000-09-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:04:27PM +1100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: I'm trying to connect to an ISP over Multilink PPP combining 3 modem links. I can't find any software, preferably in packaged Debian or at least binary form, that will do it and isn't listed as "flaky". Has anyone done this?

[SLUG] Re: StarOffice 5.2 vs Microsoft Word

2000-09-05 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:53:16PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Michael Lake wrote: Very different experience here with PDF. I have a colleauge (must get a dict on this Linux box) who sends stuff to me with PDF and he is still trying to get the fonts right. Views fine on is machine but

[SLUG] (fwd) Re: hi.

2000-09-05 Thread Angus Lees
anyone? (make sure you cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Forwarded message from SkizCorp Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: "SkizCorp Technology" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Angus Lees" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:39:17 +1000 Subject: Re: hi. hi ... I am using Red

[SLUG] Re: Running SOlaris binaries on Linux?

2000-09-06 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:34:05PM +1000, George Vieira wrote: This is the email your talking about BUT it was for SCO.. snip iBCS is usually a standard module Just do a insmod iBCS. Most SCO binaries will run (WordPerfect 6.0 for X-windows did) Most applications written in older 3rd

[SLUG] Re: Mutter, mutter

2000-09-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:02:47PM +1100, Jamie Honan wrote: I'm forced to compile some code for a Windows target. There's stacks of cygwin binaries (gcc.exe) for running on Win, and info on building a cross compiler (compile Linux, target cygwin). I'm really looking for a Linux

[SLUG] Re: change default mail handler

2000-09-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:14:09PM +1000, David Kempe wrote: On a redhat 6.2 box, or even a debian box, is there a way to change the default mail handler? Like I have an alternative (read oracle) mail server daemon that takes up port 25 - it seems to speak reasonable SMTP. How do i get unix

[SLUG] Re: Why, Netscape... An Ode.

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:30:30AM +0100, Thom May wrote: The really bizarre thing is that the FreeBSD version of netscape does none of these things - it's actually a pretty decent browser shock type="extreme"/ Any ideas why this is, folks? i find the one on debian fairly stable too i think

[SLUG] Re: Still is??: Re: linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:43:48AM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: b) stay with the job and ditch (or defer) uni in favour of some sort of linux-based/related training, which could see me using such skills in a job in the not too distant future? Hey its a daring thing to suggest, but if you

[SLUG] Re: Still is??: Re: linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 11:40:14AM +1100, Matt Allen wrote: On the programming side of things, This is what *i* mostly do and all I think uni would have done for me is put me back 3-4 years. The question I ask is "Could uni have taught me how to write PHP and HTML". I guess sort of, maybe in

[SLUG] Re: what does the perl package Provides: in Debian?

2000-09-10 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:01:59AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: I'm constructing a deb and I was told a Depends: perl (= 5) causes problems because the Perl5 deb Provides: perl5, not perl with version 5. Can someone please confirm this for Woody and Potato? you can't do versioned Provides :( have

[SLUG] Re: Debian and Security

2000-09-12 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 08:01:19AM +, Herbert Xu wrote: John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering what are the security.debian.org list of packages for in the default sources.list. When security whole are found aren't the pacjages in the main tree updated? Or is it just

[SLUG] Re: Basic CVS Usgae

2000-09-12 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:29:37PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: James Morris wrote: Actually, the info file is pretty useful too (if you hate info files, grab tkinfo). What happens if both info files *and* tk make you feel physically sick? jeff, being a debian weenie with "dhelp"

[SLUG] Re: Quake3 on Linux?

2000-09-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:15:56PM +0800, Jason Nicholls wrote: When we were running a quake server (that's pretty old now ;)) we used some utility to attach the output to a virtual console (something like F12) so we could watch... It solved the problem you are having. Unfortunately I can't

[SLUG] Re: Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:09:59PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: I'm sure you're aware of the Free Software Song (the only recording I could find: URL: http://www.jwz.org/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3) and of course, there's the techno remix; a copy of which is at:

[SLUG] Re: Dumb email question

2000-09-13 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:20:29PM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote: I've just noticed that + seems to be a valid char in email addresses which is news to me :) Can someone point me to the right RFC or some official type doco on this? rfc822 ? usually + is used to denote a "local" part. local

[SLUG] Re: Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:46:18PM +1100, Jason Stokes wrote: Those misguided people complaining about Info format should type C-h i h in Emacs (I was going to say start Emacs first, but you all run Emacs already, right? :) and work through the tutorial and learn to use it and to love

[SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:21:59PM +1000, Stephen Mills wrote: 1) be reminded that if a person has physical access to your linux machine, they can usually have full access to all information within a few mins with a boot floppy 2) you can set a password on the lilo prompt to prevent them

[SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:15:07PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: I did hear a rumour that RAM theft is a problem in corporate environments. Does anyone have any first hand experience of just how prevelent it might be. at uni, we had entire labs stripped of ram and the occasional processor,

[SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:04:28PM +1000, Stephen Mills wrote: something wrong with the list ? I seem to have got this message four times already. i wasn't really paying attention, but didn't another of mehmeto's posts do the same thing (earlier today / yesterday) ? -Original

[SLUG] Re: Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preve nting 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:16:55PM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: This is getting way OT because I don't think anyone is running Linux on E250 hardware, but you _CAN_ disable STOP-A by turning the front panel switch to the run position and hiding the keyswitch. are all keys for all (matching

[SLUG] Re: RH - debian problems (PLEASE no war please ;-)

2000-09-15 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 10:28:47AM +1100, Alex Salmon wrote: a) PINE.. how the heck do u get pine for deb.. apt-get wont find it.. i go to the packages site and all i find is the source in a .deb and a .diff file.. w/ no instructions on how to config it for deb.. anyway dont source debian

[SLUG] Re: Base Document Format

2000-09-17 Thread Angus Lees
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:53:32PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote: I'm currently thinking the only thing that really has all the tools is SGML but I've never realy played with it. Most I've really used is latex but you can only really convert that into decent pdf and ps. html isn't too bad

[SLUG] Re: Goobye to SLUG

2000-09-17 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 10:18:49AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "the web" is an interface, not a format (fool). I have been a member of SLUG for 6 years and until recently the mailing list and the people were generally civil and showed respect for others. I have noticed over the

[SLUG] Re: Internet Backup

2000-09-17 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 04:44:59PM +1100, Colin Humphreys wrote: I would need rsync or rcp over ssh... rsync -e ssh -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] Re: Re: Internet Backup

2000-09-18 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 05:06:46PM +1100, Colin Humphreys wrote: I use this rsync over ssh everyday on nix, does this work on linux-windows too? it should, so long as you can find rsync and ssh binaries for windows.. (certainly would with the cygwin stuff) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney

[SLUG] Re: Wine with MS apps

2000-09-18 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 09:39:37AM +1100, Peter Rundle wrote: When installing IE wine gives this error FATAL: No handler for Win16 routine SETUPX.2: IPOPEN (called from 030f:00b7) i quickly gave up getting ie to run, since the pull-down menues didn't even exist when i tried it, and

[SLUG] Re: Sound/PPP on same debian 2.2 kernel

2000-09-18 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 10:53:11AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running an old soundblaster card that fits into the ISA (?) bus, and so had to compile the modules to make it work - the default sound and sb modules did not work. ? the modules should work.. you specified io, irq, dma,

[SLUG] Re: IDE for java / C etc.

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 04:29:01PM +1100, Arunava Sen wrote: i usually just use vim and console tools when coding. but i was wondering if there are any good IDEs out there. i know of Code Crusader/source navigator etc. but can anyone share their experiences with any of these IDEs? get xemacs

[SLUG] Re: IDE for java / C etc.

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 06:26:57PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Stuart Cooper wrote: What sort of things would you see as useful, and complimentary to the text-only approach? Graphical elements that run the existing tools conveniently for the user without having to leave the

[SLUG] Re: Kernel naming

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 12:33:07PM +1100, Conrad Parker wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 12:24:08PM +1000, Doug Stalker wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:43:40PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: The kernel, vmlinuz-2.2.17-idepci, I've seen kernals with names liek this before (mandrake

[SLUG] Re: Re: Distro Layout / Config Standards (was Re: Debian)

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 02:20:57PM +1000, John Wiltshire wrote: From: Angus Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] i can't see people wanting to ever switch between "with NFS" / "without NFS" (except maybe on a laptop, but i can think of better ways of handling that). Not a

[SLUG] Re: Re: Distro Layout / Config Standards (was Re: Debian)

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 03:12:08PM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: If you are not running a network, then there is no point having all the NFS stuff loaded, so I would in that case choose a runlevel that didn't have NFS. .. or remove the nfs-server package and avoid the problem altogether (or

[SLUG] Re: Re: Sound/PPP on same debian 2.2 kernel

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:14:37PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:43:40PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 10:53:11AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running an old soundblaster card that fits into the ISA (?) bus, and so had to compile

[SLUG] Re: Re: Kernel naming

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 04:29:57PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: Angus Lees wrote: read /usr/doc/kernel-package/README iirc, you need to hack kerneld a bit (patch provided) before it will load modules from /usr/lib/modules/VERS-EXTRA/ but that should allow you to have two versions

[SLUG] Re: Re: Re: Distro Layout / Config Standards (was Re: Debian)

2000-09-20 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 04:37:50PM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: Not if you're using Debian: - To 'remove' a package is to delete the program files, but not the config files. - To 'purge' a package is to delete the program files and the config files. And what happens if you don't have the package

[SLUG] Re: XEmacs vs. Emacs (was Re: IDE for java / C etc)

2000-09-21 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 02:38:22PM +1100, Ben Leslie wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Stuart Cooper wrote: I personally have always used plain GNU Emacs, rather than XEmacs. Can anyone give me a run down on why I would want to run XEmacs? From what I have seen/used (which isn't exactly in-depth),

[SLUG] helix .debs

2000-09-27 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 01:44:50PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: It's starting to become a hassle. Peter at Helix Code doesn't really have the peer review or responsibility that the official Debian maintainers do. So, things get through which otherwise wouldn't. Not good. This time it's a dead

[SLUG] Re: nbd : now just want to increase window

2000-09-28 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 09:57:47PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're fine till the window size drops to zero. The whole nbd/tcp/ ethernet sequence _should_ start up from there, but it does not. if you're trying to swap over nbd, you have applied the "enable swapping over nbd" patches

[SLUG] Re: ADSL

2000-09-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 12:06:52PM +1100, Bernhard Lüder wrote: No definite;y not. They would be jeapordies their ISDN product. If you want a fixed IP go to IPRIMUS or ONE.NET. telstra certainly intend to offer static ips its listed under their "corporate" pricing on their web page as

[SLUG] Re: Perl not calling shell

2000-09-29 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 10:00:34AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently changed to Debian 2.2. Along the way, perl can call shell function by the inverse quotes (``). strace it There's an llseek that it says is illegal. Seems it was working before, and I cannot seem to get it

[SLUG] Re: more samba

2000-09-30 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 08:26:38PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: How do you do printer pooling? I would like to amalgamate the two printers we have here - one a HP LJ 5MP and the other a LJ 5. Is that possible? So windows client can just go print to that share, and it will just print on the one

[SLUG] Re: Miguels Unix Sucks paper and sluggers thoughts.

2000-10-01 Thread Angus Lees
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:27:09PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem with this reusable code business is the time expended in looking for it. If you think about the man pages, there is a fairly rigid structure that defines the manner in which most applications/commands must

[SLUG] Re: ICMP Redirects

2000-10-02 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 04:36:11PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: I have two subnets using the same NIC. One is the main subnet (A) and the other is a subsidiary subnet (B). Routing is enabled. The question is "How do I stop the redirect messages?" why do you want to? the redirects are

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