Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Thank you for many, many things learned and much entertainment. I haven't flown R/C seriously in 8 years, but still follow RCSE. I will treasure my RCSE beer bottles JR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
Sorry to here you are retiring from flying. I loved my Grand Esteem and Pelican. Fantastic planes! Thank you for great designs, and memories... john Miron Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am retiring from flying this year and so my planes are becoming available at very affordable prices. Here it is : 132 in span the Super Pelican composites 2 piece wing and tail CF friendly reinforced fuse all JR servos add receiver and fly white with pale green wide stripes top CF bottom. %/8 dia CF prebent joining rod. no whinch can flex this wing. $ 400 plus SH. Pictures available 118 in Grand Esteem composites wing gel coated fuse all Airtronics servos add receiver and battery a beauty for $ $ 375 Plus SH RES Pelican obeche wings 122 in span, Spoilers and servos for them installed add receiver and battery and fly. $ 325 plus S H Make your own electric glider using these 4 available Esteem fuses CF reinforced T tail type each for $ 55 plus S H. Or buy all of the above for as little as $ 1100 and I pay the shipment. Mike ( the old Esteem and Pelican designer ) By the way the Super Pelican made this guy Bordy to change diapers every round at the last contest in Orlando past spring. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 3D TD
No one told me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWPoNof0SsQ ;-) john RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Off topic Great Park Airshow
The Kite Hill Krew practicing for the upcoming grand opening... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vvApsFg800 JR www.roenation.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] The Sinha deturbulators
Been reading about them for years, with initial skepticism, but growing excitement the past year or so. This months SOARING has them featured in Bill Collum's column, soaring tech, June 2008 page 19-22 Heady stuff! I'm sure many here are aware already, and hopefully some are already testing somewhere... john More online: http://sinhatech.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] F3J Fundraiser
I went to the site and donated $20.00, super easy and quick using paypal. I would have loved to buy a hat, but the artwork has the crescent/star symbol incorporated in the design, and I would no sooner wear that than I would walk around sporting a swastika or a hammer and sickle. It might be a good idea to re-work the design, I think a lot more stuff might be sold... Good luck team USA! JR Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darwin, thanks so much for the effort. And to all of you who have and are contributing. We really thank you. I can't even begin to explain what a monumental task (and expenditure) it is to organize and send a team of 13 halfway around the world to compete. The AMA very generously supports a portion of travel expenses, and some contest expenses, but nowhere near enough to keep us from going out of pocket. It's donations from you guys that get us there. (and probably wish we wouldn't come back) ;-) Check out our site http://usf3jteam.com/ to see a list of sponsors who have graciously donated cash, raffle prizes, or both. And maybe you could even buy something. Airtronics/Global Kennedy Composites CST Radio Carbon Art Soaring USA JR LSF Skip Miller Models And you guys. Thanks so much. Daryl - plannin' on kicking some Euro @ss - Perkins ;-) Original Message Subject: [RCSE] F3J Fundraiser From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 03, 2008 11:18 am To: soaring@airage.com Come on guys, yesterday I put up a challenge to raise money for our F3J team. I offered $100 and stand by that. So far nobody has stepped to the plate. For those buying jackets, that is good but good old cash will be even more helpful. Lets get on board and donate some money. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler, AZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text formatDarwin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Kids Glider Pilotless Aircraft???
I got a kick out of the box, and even more so the stuff inside. All in Chinglish, along the lines of All your base are belong to us The title is the actual name of the plane. One of my friends got a case of them from HK and handed them out at the field... Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video But HmThat glider sure was noisy :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ-xP3JRWXA I loved it. Gordy - Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] First Plane
1975 Wanderer w/049 and a heathkit single-stick 4 channel radio, purple-white. Dad tried to teach me to fly, problematic cuz he couldn't. Great memories. -- John Roe www.roenation.com 949-458-8544 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Borrow/Rent/Steal - maybe even purchase
I could send you a TG-3... ...I think Joe-someone won a contest with it once, so it must kick ass... -- John Roe www.roenation.com 949-458-8544 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Who remembers The Old Buzzard video?
...and Dave Thornberg? Still available? DVD? john roe www.roenation.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Trip to London, what should I visit modeling wise?
John Leigh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about a nice cup of tea? While it is true that no one does tea like the British, I tried to keep my comments on what to visit in England "soaring related," and we all know that glider pilots are far too manly to drink tea. Best to stay on topic with beer, fried foods and foul-weather gear. JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
[RCSE] Sparrow Hawk flies
Greg Cole's "Sparrow Hawk" Ultralight high-performance saiplane flew on friday. Brian Mclean has been working for Greg building this plane for the past 6 months. Looks like a fun toy, I'm hoping to get to fly the prototype this spring. http://www.windward-performance.com/ JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
Re: [RCSE] Hard data on L/D values for models
Some good posts on this thread. As pointed out by Anker, flying at the air speed that produces the best L/D for a stationary airmass will by definition cover the most ground (horizontal movement) for the altitude lost (vertical movement). We as pilots are often interested in being able to travel as far as possible over the ground when the airmass IS moving, either horizontally (wind) or vertically (sink). Usually if the airmass is rising (lift) we are content to stay in that area of the airmass, and will even circle ;-) The rule of thumb is to "speed up" in sink, or into the wind, and slow down in lift. But how much? And which airfoil/planform/airframe configurations can still maintain a high L/D a a wider range of(higher and lower) airspeeds? This information would be wonderful to have. If drawn out graphically as a polar it would show for each aircraft design what to expect in the way the plane could be flown.It would alsoshow to all on paperwhy some airfoils are notorious for being "fussy" about the speed they are flown at (sharply peaked polar) or not fussy (flat polar). If plotted with minimin sink speed and stall speed, and maybe even stall speed in landing configuration we could suddenly be able to know much about a design just by reading the (accurate ;-) performance data. Except for launch...hmmm The basic desire would be a plane that could achieve it's best L/D even at very high (air)speed, allowing it to effortlessly penetrate even very high winds, at low wing-loadings. This low wing-loading plane with high speed L/D cruise then would still have a low sinkrate at low speed, allowing tight thermal turns in weak lift while still climbing and be able to slow way down to land. This is pretty much exactly what most designs have been striving for, with compromises being made to optimize for regional or personal preferences. In the USA we have the popular "west coast" planes, i.e. the Addiction, which gives up range in wind for better climb and especially slower landing speeds, as in California we "always make our times anyway" and many contests are decided...literally...by a few inches difference in landing scores over a whole contest. In Europe they have wind, lots of it, and low clouds and often poor lift. They prefer planes that perhaps don't land as accurately (they measure by the meter not the inch anyway) but can hang in the wind, then get back to the field after taking the one thermal way downwind to make the typically 10 minutes or longer European thermal task time. We fly (relatively) much shorter tasks with much higher precision landings, in different weather conditions. Understanding and quantifying theseperformance and stylistic differences would seem to me to make a lot of sellers and purchasers of cool toys happier. There would be less of the suprise and dissapointment that I hear about when a model that is supposed to be "the best" doesn't do what the owner wants it to. Usuallythrough no fault of it's own. This info would also make ballasting less of a "black art," atleast some of the time anyways, and allow people to buy a range of planes to suit the conditions they expect to fly in. Plus lots more to debate on RCSE. I think the technology is just about here now... JR John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
[RCSE] Re: Contests; why?
Contests are the engines that drive the development of the planes we all enjoy for each our own reasons. Contest pilots push out the envelope of performance. Contest pilots want answers to questions that most pilots would never ask, but all builders and pilots get to benefit and extend their enjoyment of the hobby because of these answers. Mostly pilots fly contests because of the wealth and adoration of ourwives and women everywhere who find us irresistable in our shorts and floppy hats with astopwatch around our neck. JR PS. the REAL secret is the bare feet...John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
[RCSE] Which GPS?
I've had several requests for the size/shape/model of GPS unit that might be suitable for sending up in a model to record data. Probably the best one readily available for this, and one that is very popular with the full-scale crowd is the Garmin E-trex. There are a couple of versions, you want the one that has barometric as well as GPS altitude capture, I believe it's the "Vista." The unit is about the size and shape of an 1800 series Nokia cell phone. Very useful in the car as well, or for boating, hiking or whatever... JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
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David Judson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks John. I already bought the orange stuff at Gyro today. I was going to put some braided line on it, but there's Turner's down the street. Is mono just mono? or is there something special that you've had good luck with I've received a suprising amount of similar replies to my quick post about "the only way" to do bungee, so I'll answer to the group.David Ihope you don't mind. I use 200+ test mono because I have gobs and gobs of it from 2 cycles of F3J team shenanagins. It is a good choice as it has some give to it and will last a long time and doesn't tangle or cut you easily. The set-up really does work very, very well- better I think than any other combo I have seen or used, and I've used quite a few. This set up throws my F3B/F3J TD planes easily 200-300 feet with good zoom technique, and no need to use launch mode. It is also very compact and takes little space, while being fairly user-friendly. I have used it in my front yard streched down the sidewalk to toss my 3M Psykos and thermal around overmy neighborhood without incident. I've seen Joe wurtsgo even higher on my rig, but he flies straight at the nail, then zooms like launching a zagi etcthat's not for the faint of heart. I just killed a CF 2 meter plane last month that way. Killed it all the way dead forever, was kinda cool, and loud. This same rig works great for smaller planes, and is capable of inducing flutter on any foamy I've seen if you take it back to far. It is a very nice set-up. JR P.S. Just bottled5 gallons ofEuro-style pilsner to take to Phoenix, except Phoenix is full! Bummer! Mebbie Pasadena... John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.
Re: [RCSE] ADS ONCE AND FOR ALL
Yes on Ads. John Roe --- Karlton Spindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO reprisals no hidden emails. Like Joe Friday lets get just the facts. Lets take a quick poll. YES OR NO ON ADS! One thing about Sam though he uses a AD DRIVEN FREE email address service HOTMAIL. That is sort of funny... Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com http://www.svmSPEEDWAY.com http://www.SVMracing.com - Original Message - From: Sam Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Not a NEW Product... Is SAM really LUCAS in DISGUISE? So far I have rec'd. 26 replies that want ads. I have rec'd 236 that do not. The do nots, do not post, because they say they will get emails from stupid people like you. Sorry, it's your problem, not mine. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] more scale talk!
I would ask JW to please please send me coordinates. If he wouldn't I would use a 7035 or something like it. JR --- Douglas, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c'mon, no more opinions? e374, hq 2s, sd6060, what? looking for any thoughts / opinions on a 4.5 - 5M DG-600. what would YOU want, if you were buying / building this?? thanks, brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: Not a NEW Product...
Sam Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, if someone posts a free ad, I think that email address should be blocked from RCSE and or charged $25.00 per post.As you already know, I am not the self appointed moderator of this list, but Sam you forget that thestatistical majority on this list don't often post much of anything, but rather use it as a source of information and fellowship with like-minded individuals. Most of the venders we rely on for our hobby are smallish operations, and we all depend on them to make or import the "really good stuff" we crave. It is ironic that I read your post after giving out a phone number and web site url for MM GliderTec, Trick-RC,Hobby Club and F3X.com . I aiso mentioned Model Aircraft News and Airage publications, the sponsor of this list. All of these vendors owe some of thier success to this list and the others like it, because we read thier "ads" and learn and buy and gain greater enjoyment from our hobby. Everyone benefits, no one is harmed in any way. I have been on this list for years (4-5?) and you aren't the first to stick your foot in your mouth and then get slammed for being silly. I know and fly and talk with a significant percentage of members of this list, if you are into numbers, and we all like to hear about "the latest and the greatest", months before the magazines can get the news out (except the Radio Control Soaring Digest). Sam continues: I have as much right to say my thoughts as anyone on this listand I will do just that. The few that try to control the things they have no control over, well, good luck. You have given us another shining example of useless and unwanted tilting at windmills, not that we needed it. Well me maybe. That's fine, no harm done, except to your reputation with a pretty cool group of individuals and specialty companies that do what they do for love more than money.If you do not like that, then use delete, so the minority have said. Ahhh the beginning of wisdom. And would have saved us all some time. John Roe "ZR" TEAM USA F3J member 1998 (crew), 2000 (pilot)andwe like to hear from venders...John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your holiday gifts!
[RCSE] New Baby
New baby girl, Abigail Catherine Roe "AbbyCat" 7lbs, 6 ounces 18.5 inches Born today, June 26th, at 12:23pm. Mom and baby are in perfect health, dad is running errands to hobby stores, Dave's house, and checking email. Might even mail out a video or two before I leave for Greece. oh, and I brewed a batch of "Joe Wurts" style Porter last night, will be ready to bottle when I return. Gotta love multi-tasking. YIPPIE!! Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Empty barrels make the most noise" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HL/IHLGF Field report...
Denny Wrote: John Roe says he's getting 100 feet No one has ever measured my throw, so no one... *including myself*... has said how much I'm getting, on this exchange or anywhere else, ever. Here's some good stuff! After carefully verifying the accuracy of two different laser range finders, which are certified by the manufacturer (Bushnell) to be accurate to within +- one meter, or better, we found that accuracy was reliable at ranges from 15 to 200 meters, on large and small stationary and moving targets. I measured the launch heights of apprx. 20 competitors at the recent IHLGF at Poway, both in practice and in competition, in the wind and in relatively calm conditions. I was able to get very precise measurements by standing directly in the path of the throw, then aiming directly overhead at the plane as it was "pushed over" into level flight. The results below are the result of this research, and are provided to for all to enjoy, and might also be considered carefully if you are thinking of getting a new plane, based on where you fly and your athletic ability. Under low-to-no wind conditions launch heights of 60+ feet were common with the stronger javelin-style throwers, with 75 feet+ being acheived by some. There were some pilots who had trouble getting more than 50 or so feet, but they were much in the minority. The side arm plane "Uplink" thrown by it's manufacturer got consistant 75 foot launches. There were no launches below 45 feet by anyone who was trying to throw hard. In the wind, the stronger pilots using the javelin-style throw were able to consistantly launch 75+ feet. There were perhaps 5 or 6 that I verified were launching to 85 feet or more, consistantly. The weakest few pilots that I measured were able to launch 60-65 feet. The same uplink thrown by the same gentleman- side arm style- was reaching 90+ feet, a height that only a few javelin-style pilots could beat.but there were definitely at least three guys who could launch just as high as the side-arm plane, every time. Look to see some familiar conventionally-launched planes being offered in a side-arm version, as it turns out that no span penalty or much weight penalty is required to make a side-arm plane work. For many people the side arm launch will be higher than they can throw conventionally. The disadvantages of the side-arm launch will still be turn-around time (important only in competition) and directional control, although that could be improved with practice. As far as High-aspect ratio HL planes are concerned, I flew an extreme example of one, the new Spectre VR by DJ aerotec. I found it had very nice handling, a good sink-rate and was a joy to fly in light lift and low-wind conditions. In the wind it was OK, and could get around the sky as well as all but the most advanced planes on the field. However, as Mark Navarre has previously noted, I could not launch it hard, period. In zero or near zero wind, I could still get an "average" launch even with a low-effort throw. In the wind however I was unable to get anything like a typical launch, without fluttering the wings and/or the tail. I do think the plane has potential, and definitely am amazed at the fact that a 5.5 ounce four-servo 60" plane is even possible. Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Natura non facit saltus" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wishes CAN come true!
Flew my #1 plane for the 2000 world championships today! It was one of the three identical PSYKOS I am taking to Greece, ...and it is the stuff of dreams. A real planform! Actual computer- optimized breaks, unlike the euro-hershey bar "planforms". It's red-white and blue molded, blended three-part paint beautiful! Quad-taper 124" span! 7/8 by 5/8 square carbon joiner from HELL! All up weight, even with the killer programmable MPX servos and bitchin' hoops wiring harnesses 63 ounces...YAH- BABY!!! Was launching it today, lots of wind zoom! Then specking it and diving it from 2000 feet to the deck.quiet! fast! Clean! A real multi-task plane! And it has a full-flying all-molded stab, no V-tail blues on landing! I like knowing going to the worlds to represent my Nation, that no one on the field will have a better plane than I do! And it will be a killer for USA TD events as well, with the unmatched accuracy of the cruciform tail for spot landing! "happy is the man with a full quiver" John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Be careful what YOU wish for you just might end up with it..." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Side Arm Launch HLG
Anyone has has, or has access to one of my "Dynamic Soaring" videos can see Dick Barker himself launching his side-arm uplink in the segment on the tape covering the 1998 IHLGF and launch technique in general, mostly slo-mo and stop-action of Joe wurts. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org You should never be in company that you wouldn't want to die with. ---Freman Proverb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Some hard facts of launch
Message text written by Paul Clark: "Does anyone know if this actually happens - do you get a little more launch height when you throw your sailplane into rising air?" Way yes. Also...we have been measuring launch heights with great precision utilizing a Laser range-finder... and some may be suprised with the results. With a 7-9 mph wind JOE WURTS and MARK NAVARRE were throwing VERY consistant 29-32 meter launches...no sweat. Joe was throwing his ancient 6063 Encore and Mark was throwing an old own-design (wizard rip-off) with the wing tips cut off (that zona saw again). and yes Joe was out-launching Mark by a meter or so. I'm guessing that not everyone throws that high, and today we lasered some ordinary mortals, and sure enough thier launches were more like 15-21 meters in the same conditions. Now you have a goal, and some HARD NUMBERS. Go for it! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org You should never be in company that you wouldn't want to die with. ---Freman Proverb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Tom Hoopes
Looking for Tom Hoopes, I need to order a couple of sets of his servo extensions FedX, to get my two new Psykos in the air by the weekend, if possible!! Also if anyone has a URL for dimensions on Multiplex Servos, it may help me get going until my servos arrive... Gotta get these bad boys in the air ASAP!!! Thanks! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Moderation is the last refuge of the unimaginative." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] (Updated)THE VIDEO IS HERE, theThree R's of Soaring, with Joe Wurts
UPDATED ANNOUNCEMENT! The three "R's" of soaring, a video clinic with JOE WURTS is finally shipping to the wonderfully patient people who have ordered it already, and want to support the USA THERMAL DURATION TEAM's defense of the gold medal we won in 1998. I wonder how many people would like to have World Champion Joe Wurts all day long to teach them on the field, then in the classroom, then on the field, then in the classroom? You too, huh? The video is one hour and 20 minutes long, and covers the three R's of soaring and a lot more! R-eading the air and the thermals. R-iding the thermals, up and out! R-e coring lost thermals (we all lose 'em sometimes) Ground signs, air signs, reading the plane, thermal behavior, search patterns, hand-launch throwing, 3 meter strategy, common mistakes, good and bad habits, In the field AND in the classroom. This and more! And for charity, for TEAM USA F3J Y2K! Video is $20.00, delivered to you in the USA, NTSC format only for now. Tee-shirts are available as well for $15.00 Cash, checks Credit cards, all OK. I am caught up (almost) and am filling orders as I get them. There are 250 videos available for now, they are half-sold. My FAX machine is secure, in my office at home. My Voice mail on 433-3657 is secure, only I have access to it. Those who asked about seeing a picture of the T-Shirts, go to... www.f3x.com Hit the "US F3-J Team" link to see the shirts. Use my address below if you are mailing a check. John Roe 26032 El Prado Laguna Hills, Ca 92653 www.martialartsacademy.org 949-458-8544 949-433-3657 FAX 775-415-7288 Thanks everyone, hopefully these videos will sell even more than the Joe Wurts Dynamic Soaring videos did, that would be great! P.S. I will be making PAL versions of this new Joe Wurts video, when I have enough orders. They will cost $25 US dollars PLUS shipping to wherever... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] VIDEO IS HERE, theThree R's of Soaring, with Joe Wurts
The three "R's" of soaring, a video clinic with JOE WURTS is finally shipping to the wonderfully patient people who have ordered it already, and want to support the USA THERMAL DURATION TEAM's defense of the gold medal we won in 1998. I wonder how many people would like to have World Champion Joe Wurts all day long to teach them on the field, then in the classroom, then on the field, then in the classroom? You too, huh? The video is one hour and 20 minutes long, and covers the three R's of soaring and a lot more! R-eading the air and the thermals. R-iding the thermals, up and out! R-e coring lost thermals (we all lose 'em sometimes) Ground signs, air signs, reading the plane, thermal behavior, search patterns, hand-launch throwing, 3 meter strategy, common mistakes, good and bad habits, In the field AND in the classroom. This and more! And for charity, for TEAM USA F3J Y2K! Video is $20.00, delivered to you in the USA, NTSC format only for now. Tee-shirts are available as well for $15.00 Cash, checks Credit cards, all OK. I have a little more than 100 pre-orders to handle first, and may run out of tee- shirts, so email me to get on the list! All of you who have patiently waited so long, be happy! THANK YOU Joe Wurts, you might think twice when people start learning how you do it... Also SPECIAL THANKS to SAL at NSP and KARLTON SPINDLE at MULTIPLEX and DAVE at DAW for thier extremely generous support of both the senior and junior F3-J teams, myself included! John Roe 26032 El Prado Laguna Hills, Ca 92653 www.martialartsacademy.org 949-458-8544 949-433-3657 FAX 775-415-7288 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Check out my dad's score at SC*2
WOW! My "dad" Mr. Bob Lenard, is brand-new to "floater" type flying, but is an accomplished Laguna Niguel Slope-Nazi, and fully Sensei-trained...he kicked some MAJOR butt at, like, his second ever "floater"(TD) contest at SULA. He beat out 64 guys to come in second to Daryl Perkins, flying an "Addiction". Way to go dad! http://www.sc-2.org/ John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Beliefs can be manipulated, only knowledge is dangerous... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Scale plane
Get a DAW Ka-6 and save your money... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Beliefs can be manipulated, only knowledge is dangerous... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] f3j contest this weekend in So Cal
Message text written by "Jason Werner": Does anyone have any information on it? 1. Team Canada will be there 2. Team USA will be there 3. (and best of all) the field is only a few miles from High Times Liquor, the best Liquor/wine cellar/fine beer/ cigar store in Orange County! See you there! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Beliefs can be manipulated, only knowledge is dangerous... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Who is the father of DS
Message text written by Raymond Wong who ever invented DS is a genius! And just think, DS is just a tiny fringe-benefit of HIS other inventions, like the Earth, The Sky, and the laws of physics. If you want to REALLY be impressed look at some of His other leaps of creation... like life...DNA...freewill... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Nature makes no leaps" Charles Darwin Many don't realize that Darwin came to realize before he died that Evolution, at least from one dissimilar species to another, was untenable in the light of new advances. This hasn't stopped his theory from being perpetuated as a religion, since as absurd as it is, it still is preferable to some than the alternative- being accountable. Historically this is not unique, eventually science will catch up. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Joe Wurts and DS
If not the inventor, Joe certainly has made DS accessable to the masses, and wrote a brief article in sEM magazine. There have been several other articles about DS in sEM and QFI, but they aren't particularly helpful or accurate. Describing instead, in the words of Douglas Adams, "Something almost, but not quite, completely unlike Dynamic Soaring" At least as we need to understand it on the slope. Maybe we can goad Joe into writing something more- and more helpful- on the subject... Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org You should never be in company that you wouldn't want to die with. ---Freman proverb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Catapulting a 3 m
I use a catapult-like set-up for my 3M planes. It consists of 50' of red hobby-lobby 1/2" rubber- DOUBLED and a 25' piece of 200# test monofiliment. Some of you might have seen me using this at Phoenix. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well. --Leto II, His Voice, from Dar-es-Balat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Laguna Slope Open
The Slope at Laguna Niguel is now open to soaring 7 days a week sunrise to sunset. I will post further on the details and official park dedication/ party to be held slope-side. Tell the guard at the gate you have "the need for speed". Try not to mention "combat" or "pediphillia" or "bestiality" or other related subjects. ....oh, and can I fly your plane? John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well. --Leto II, His Voice, from Dar-es-Balat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Hand Launch Video FAQ
The video is now a full month behind my promised date. The problem is mainly that it was professionally shot, and for basically free. The editing etc. has not happened, due to the company who has the digital masters (nearly four hours worth of raw footage) not having "spare time" to turn it into a video for me. For free. I am looking at other options right now. Unfortunately the results may not be as professional as I had hoped. The information will still be as valuable. If all you were expecting was something like my "Joe Wurts does DS" video you may not be disapointed. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well. --Leto II, His Voice, from Dar-es-Balat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Brian McLean's new #?
MClean's models new number: 530-222-0872 John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Ideal wing surface texture
Message text written by "Derek Boyer" The moral of the story is that Im being led to believe that smoother is better even in our low-Re environment. Pretty well unsupported reasoning, but beliefs arent always reasonable or wrong. For what it's worth, as this is purely second-hand... I have heard from God on this topic, in a discussion about very, very low Reynolds numbers, specifically micro-hand launch. Smoother is better. Period. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Wise men STILL seek Him." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sunbird Contest Web Site Update
Mark- Put the URL up again! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Wise men STILL seek Him." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC2000, Bethlehem and the Emperor
Message text written by "Walter Lynch": at Vegas- who knows how much thats going to cost me- $100/hr??? All I can say is- bring your money people- there might be a good deal on a low time Reminds me of fishing, hunting, sailing, off-road racing, scuba diving, skiing, etc. Just about every "hobby" I have ever had could be shown to be ridiculously expensive when broken downever figured out how much per pound that brook trout you caught on a guided fly-fishing trip to, say, Flaming Gorge costs? Even if there is no money involved there is always lost time- and opportunity to do something else. I like soaring. Worth it. Up late. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Most of the problems with our culture can be summed up in one phrase: "Who are you to say?" Dennis Prager RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Twinstar Thanks
Message text written by Vogel Dental Lab: Thanks to all who responded. I swear Id pay to get this list. Hey a new fundraising idea! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Most of the problems with our culture can be summed up in one phrase: "Who are you to say?" Dennis Prager RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: Light Boomerangs - Long
As a former cool combat guy...perhaps... I would like to say...for what it's worth... that Nathan's post KICKS ASS and you should all do what he say...do what he say... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Most of the problems with our culture can be summed up in one phrase: "Who are you to say?" Dennis Prager RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Shredair/Dieter
Please contact me about... Lost your email... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Beer is proof that there is a God and that he loves us". Benjamin Franklin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Boring/F3F
I am as bloodthirsty and competition-crazed as the next guy when it comes to slope-racing. I am totally enthralled with wingtip-to-wingtip racing- even when expensive disasters are inevitable. However... Tom Copp has really done a great, fantastic, excellent and bitchin' thing for slopers in Southern California by setting up and conducting F3F races on a regular and continuing basis. The facts are the facts, and to the world-wide soaring community slope racing is defined as "F3F". I am EXTREMELY GRATEFUL that someone is willing to give me the opportunity to compete in this event on a continuing basis for a measly few bucks, and judging by the enthusiastic comments of the pilots at a race with dismal conditions, the future is extremely bright for this event. I also have talked to several manufacturers/importers and one of the spin-off benefits of an entire new facet of this sport gaining popularity is more sales of better planes, more development and designs and it's all good... Just in case anyone out there was breathlessly awaiting my opinion on this... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is eternal." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Cash
I will have cash, be looking for a Cobra for F3B or a ??? John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Manufacturers, new models
I would like to know about any and all new models as they make it to market. I keep being suprised by new models like the Hera, Hades, Dynamix, Scar, Brisk, Sharon, Agate, Stork, etc. I only seem to see them when they show up at a contest, the slope or on this exchange. I would to know about them sooner, and am especially motivated now that I'm on the team. Any info at any time from anyone is appreciated, every time I've asked I've been amazed at the knowledge and help available on this exchange- so thanks in advance, and in retrospect... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Competition does not build character- It merely reveals it." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Stuff you shouldn't do...
Hey Fluffer- you steppin' out or what? John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Pivo Giveaway, at USA F3B practice
Once again Bozo has gotten himself in hot water with the exchange, but I can help! There WILL BE a giveaway at the last F3B practice being held this saturday at Taft, and while there are no Diamonds available to be handed out, there will be at least one- perhaps more- PIVO for each helper. These are beautifully crafted in the Czech republic, and imported in thier own carrying case! This is not a joke, I'll be bringing them myself! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Hitec service, etc.
Hitec service has been so good for me it has led to me abusing them somewhat. I once sent them the REMAINS of three 535 rx's that I had destroyed combating/impacting with slope-racer chock full O' lead. They sent me two brand new ones free. That's just one time- I have had other equally good experiences. BTW Bobby Tom at Airtronics also has taken good care of me when I have needed service/parts. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Vindicator wings
Cliff- My father-in-law has an old set of the double-tapered (yuk) version (949-831-1282) or you could order a new set- currently Brian has managed to maintain a two week (really!!!) turnaround for complete triple-tapered Vindy's... I would give him a try (530-222-4127) as you (and everyone else) knows, there just isn't any substitute for the Vindicator, at least not yet... Too bad there are not more slope races in California (hint hint) John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Diamond for sale
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have a used Diamond for sale? Good condition, please. I have one that has been flown in TD and F3F, RTF with RX, servos, battery, ballast, etc. Red top, black bottom. Complete outfit. $2500.00 I'll pay shipping. I have one that has never been tainted by TD, and has actually been FLOWN IN F3B SPEED BY JOE WURTS! Yes it's true- this plane already has been taught how to go fast! It comes with the identical servos, ballast system and stress-cracks used by 2 out of three of our national team members, and sat in the grass in New York! (I didn't fly it because it seemed unfair) There never has been or ever will be another plane like this one! I'm only selling it because I have inside knowledge of upcoming planes that will not be available to you anyway. Asking only $2499.99* that's less than you would pay for a plane from some guy named "Gliderscum"! Unbelievable! *Shipping not included, plus a "small" fee for handling. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca Team Illuminati "Because we say so" fnord fnord fnord RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Information Exchange... NOT!!!!
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I went back to .020" wire and teflon tubing for HLG. I like this too- it bends in mid-airs an rough landings instead of breaking like CF will do, so it is field-repair and save-the-flight friendly. I also think it's cool to solder the reciever antenna to one as an antenna, neat and saves weight. John Roe Laguna hills, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re:Full contact combat. It's been done!
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's true, but you left out the part about the second chance landing points you had to keep :-o) Yep, it's true I SUCK! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] More F3B Shirts
I have received info that some of the shirts I had handed out to other "F3B Boosters" like D'Anne are as yet unsold. If you had your heart set on Short Sleeved, either XL or XXL there are a FEW (think single digit) of them left. Let me know NOW if you want one... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Re: California
Parker: 11.2 Laguna Niguel: 5..5 John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "There is a difference between KNOWING the path and WALKING the path" Morpheus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
