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2012-12-24 Thread Chris Chia
Yes don't be too serious on a Xmas Eve! Happy holidays guys! On 24 Dec, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Xmas!!! Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/24 olivier jeannel

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2012-12-24 Thread Rob Chapman
all the best for 2014 in 2013, or for those still on 2012 , all the best for 2013! ;) merry xmas and a happy new year(s) On 24 December 2012 09:34, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote: Yes don't be too serious on a Xmas Eve! Happy holidays guys! On 24 Dec, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Miquel

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2012-12-24 Thread Tim Marinov
Merry Christmas and happy new year to everyone!

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2012-12-24 Thread Chris Chia
Merry Xmas! [cid:A910BEB3-BF0D-496D-B29B-B69B2F5ACA50] On 24 Dec, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.commailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Joyeux Noel ! On 24 December 2012 11:47, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.commailto:tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: Merry

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2012-12-24 Thread Amaan Akram
Happy New Year and Happy Holidays everyone! On 24 December 2012 11:58, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.comwrote: Joyeux Noel ! On 24 December 2012 11:47, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas and happy new year to everyone! -- 3D Artist/TD @ The Mill,

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2012-12-24 Thread Alok Gandhi
Have great holidays everybody ! Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-24, at 6:04 PM, Amaan Akram xsil...@warpedspace.org wrote: Happy New Year and Happy Holidays everyone! On 24 December 2012 11:58, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Joyeux Noel ! On 24 December 2012

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2012-12-24 Thread Ben Houston
Same here! Have a great holidays al! -ben On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Alok Gandhi alok.gandhi2...@gmail.com wrote: Have great holidays everybody ! Sent from my iPhone

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2012-12-24 Thread Javier Vega
Same here! Enjoy with your family! *Javier Vega* www.zao3d.com Visita mi blog: http://blog.zao3d.com móvil: *616 64 73 57* 08922-Santa Coloma de Gramenet (Barcelona) 2012/12/24 Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com Same here! Have a great holidays al! -ben On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM,

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2012-12-24 Thread Cristobal Infante
have a good one lads, keep it simple ;) On Monday, 24 December 2012, Javier Vega wrote: Same here! Enjoy with your family! *Javier Vega* www.zao3d.com Visita mi blog: http://blog.zao3d.com móvil: *616 64 73 57* 08922-Santa Coloma de Gramenet (Barcelona) 2012/12/24 Ben Houston

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2012-12-24 Thread Eric Thivierge
Happy Holidays! Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Cristobal Infante cgc...@gmail.com wrote: have a good one lads, keep it simple ;) On Monday, 24 December 2012, Javier Vega wrote: Same here! Enjoy with

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2012-12-24 Thread Stephen Blair
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night! On 24/12/2012 6:11 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: Happy Holidays! Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Cristobal Infante cgc...@gmail.com mailto:cgc...@gmail.com

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2012-12-24 Thread Adam Sale
Merry Christmas everybody. Enjoy the gorging, imbibing and purging over the next couple of days. :-) Adam On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.comwrote: Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night! On 24/12/2012 6:11 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: Happy

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2012-12-23 Thread Fx Person
Hello! just to let you know, yesterday I have sent the following email to Cory Mogk Best Wishes! ( for the holidays and/or otherwise : ) - Forwarded Message - From: Fx Person fxper...@rocketmail.com To: cory.m...@autodesk.com cory.m...@autodesk.com Cc: maurice.pa...@autodesk.com

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2012-12-23 Thread Fx Person
2:05 PM Subject: Re: Rumors Hello! just to let you know, yesterday I have sent the following email to Cory Mogk Best Wishes! ( for the holidays and/or otherwise : ) - Forwarded Message - From: Fx Person fxper...@rocketmail.com To: cory.m...@autodesk.com cory.m...@autodesk.com Cc

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2012-12-22 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
we moved out of that building on 2008. Avid is there Le 2012-12-22 08:44, Eugen Sares softim...@keyvis.at a écrit : Ok, so there's nobody except the janitor roaming in that Softimage brick building in Boulevard Saint-Laurent (says Google)? Am 2012-12-22 13:49, schrieb Paul Doyle: Many

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2012-12-22 Thread Gene Crucean
*Subject:* RE: Rumors I heard about 2m of snow sometimes…And what about the language, I don’t speak French (yet) *From:*softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com

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2012-12-21 Thread Tim Leydecker
:* Re: Rumors Not to sound sexist, but I must say the ladies here in Montreal are quite lovely, too. One more reason to move here. ;) On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Paul Doyle technove...@gmail.com mailto:technove...@gmail.com wrote: There is also smoked meat and poutine. These are important

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2012-12-21 Thread Eugen Sares
Am 2012-12-22 08:09, schrieb Tim Leydecker: Montréal. Softimage home territory. Since developers reside in Singapore now... who's left of the old company in Montreal, and what do they do?

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2012-12-20 Thread Jack Kao
Looking at the bright side, at least here in Japan, Softimage is still very popular. J

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2012-12-20 Thread Sandy Sutherland
/triggerfishza From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Eugen Sares [softim...@keyvis.at] Sent: 20 December 2012 10:36 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors 99% of what listings, VFX jobs

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2012-12-20 Thread Eugen Sares
*From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Eugen Sares [softim...@keyvis.at] *Sent:* 20 December 2012 10:36 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors 99% of what listings, VFX jobs

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2012-12-20 Thread Gerbrand Nel
from Max, and cancel Max. And everyone is happy :D *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Raffaele Fragapane *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:55 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors Nah, wasn't

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2012-12-20 Thread Tim Leydecker
@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors 99% of what listings, VFX jobs? That's Maya country for sure, but there are more fields of application than that in 3d - games, visualization, motion graphics... Everbody wants to do VFX... loud, fancy, cool... the most rewarding playground for the ego... Softimage

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2012-12-20 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
! ;)) MAC -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker Sent: 20 décembre 2012 06:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hey Sandy, from what I´ve seen in your posts on this list

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2012-12-20 Thread David Saber
that are not modern at all in their workflows. It’s not exciting anymore. David From: Sandy Sutherland Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 08:07 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Rumors OK my take on this - whatever AD is doing is pretty pointless worrying about or complaining about

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2012-12-20 Thread Paul Doyle
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker Sent: 20 décembre 2012 06:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hey Sandy, from what I´ve seen in your posts on this list, I would imagine you´d pick up Maya

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2012-12-20 Thread Matt Morris
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hey Sandy, from what I´ve seen in your posts on this list, I would imagine you´d pick up Maya pretty quickly and would bring long-standing production experience to a project which is something that is actually getting rarer nowadays. I must admit

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2012-12-20 Thread Rob Wuijster
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker Sent: 20 décembre 2012 06:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hey

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2012-12-20 Thread Graham Bell
do have doubts, then try contacting use privately. G From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: 19 December 2012 22:12 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors ya, lets not overreact

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2012-12-20 Thread Alan Fregtman
Leydecker Sent: 20 décembre 2012 06:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hey Sandy, from what I´ve seen in your posts on this list, I would imagine you´d pick up Maya pretty quickly and would bring long-standing production experience to a project which is something

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2012-12-20 Thread Paul Doyle
...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Fregtman *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:13 PM *To:* XSI Mailing List *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** Not to sound sexist, but I must say the ladies here in Montreal are quite lovely, too. One more reason to move here. ;) ** ** ** ** On Thu

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2012-12-20 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
! D'OH! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: 20 décembre 2012 10:24 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Rumors I heard about 2m of snow sometimes...And what about the language, I don't speak

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2012-12-20 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
Here in Budapest 5 mm of snow kills the traffic. Instantly. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Marc-Andre Carbonneau Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:34 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Rumors

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2012-12-20 Thread Manuel Huertas Marchena
to me, as I solely spoke spanish and english, but gradually I became used to that... that kind of practice is REALLY common here in Montreal, which imo makes it really fun as well! cheers. Manuel Huertas Marchena IMDB|Portfolio |Vimeo |Linkedin Subject: RE: Rumors Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012

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2012-12-20 Thread Alan Fregtman
don’t speak French (yet) ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Fregtman *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:13 PM *To:* XSI Mailing List *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** Not to sound sexist, but I

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2012-12-20 Thread Martin Contel
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Manuel Huertas Marchena *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:36 PM *To:* softimage list *Subject:* RE: Rumors ** ** I've worked so far at 4 studios here in Montreal, I can say that most people are fully bilingual and foreign friendly! I

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2012-12-20 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
Of Martin Contel Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:45 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Sorry for the offtopic question Szabolcs, but does Crytec use Softimage? I just saw your email address On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol

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2012-12-20 Thread Francois Lord
On 20/12/2012 10:23, Szabolcs Matefy wrote: And what about the language, I don't speak French (yet) When you'll see the ladies, you will speak french! ;)

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2012-12-20 Thread Paul Doyle
If you find an Englishman in Montreal, it's invariably because he's married to a Quebecois woman. I think it's part of the immigration strategy. On 20 December 2012 12:01, Francois Lord flordli...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/12/2012 10:23, Szabolcs Matefy wrote: And what about the language, I

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2012-12-20 Thread wavo
by the way ... Happy Christmas and a rumor-free-Year. Walt -- *Walter Volbers* Senior Animator *FIFTYEIGHT*3D Animation Digital Effects GmbH Kontorhaus Osthafen Lindleystraße 12 60314 Frankfurt am Main Germany Telefon +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.50 Telefax +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.15

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2012-12-20 Thread Matt Lind
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eugen Sares Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:36 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors 99% of what listings, VFX jobs? That's Maya country for sure, but there are more fields of application than that in 3d

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2012-12-19 Thread Mário Domingos
Like! Mário Domingos | 3D Artist/Generalist | www.mariodomingos.com T: +351 91 646 80 16 | Carnaxide - Portugal On 19/12/2012, at 14:19, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard that ICE and Naid are going to Maya..This rumor is coming from one of the latest events .I am not

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2012-12-19 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
Can you elaborate this? I'm afraid that it might make unnecessary panic. When do you think this move is going to happen? How reliable your source is in that question? (I mean he must be very close to Autodesk) I personally trust in the developers (not in Autodesk), but if that is true...

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2012-12-19 Thread Graham Bell
...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Marinov Sent: 19 December 2012 14:30 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors This is rumor and I don't know if it's true.This is something that I've heard recently and really touch my emotions.. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Szabolcs

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2012-12-19 Thread Eugen Sares
If you are so happy with your other software, why even bother coming here? You like Softimage, don't you. Here we all do, for a reason, and will continue so until the end - which always comes (yet not in 2 days). The developers are doing a good job, even with their limited resources, and they

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2012-12-19 Thread Tim Marinov
If it was publicly it won't be rumor and everyone will know.As I said this is something I 've heard recently and I really hope isn't true.I like Softimage XSI and what is happening with it lately, and these rumors really hurts long XSI users. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Graham Bell

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2012-12-19 Thread Rob Wuijster
LOL Rob Wuijster E r...@casema.nl \/-\/\/ On 19-12-2012 15:49, Nic Groot Bluemink wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard

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2012-12-19 Thread Ciaran Moloney
Haven't we been hearing this for like 4 years? If it happens it happens. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: I always thought the reason ice works so well was its in-depth integration, surely if they want to achieve such results in maya

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2012-12-19 Thread Cristobal Infante
The world will end in a couple of days, so who cares... On 19 December 2012 15:19, Ciaran Moloney moloney.cia...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't we been hearing this for like 4 years? If it happens it happens. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com

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2012-12-19 Thread Tim Marinov
If this really happens they are not going to remove the ICE from Softimage but Softimage will fade out slowly from Autodesk.ICE is the only reason Softimage is still around. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Francois Lord flordli...@gmail.com wrote: Are you surprised to hear that the best tool in

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2012-12-19 Thread Francois Lord
If you think Softimage will die when Maya gets an equivalent to ICE, you should have begun switching to another software some time ago. It was inevitable. On 19/12/2012 11:52, Tim Marinov wrote: If this really happens they are not going to remove the ICE from Softimage but Softimage will fade

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2012-12-19 Thread Tim Marinov
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't make enough money from it. But who cares as someone said the world will end in a couple of days :) On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: If this really happens they are not

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2012-12-19 Thread Martin Contel
It would be a shame if Softimage disappears. It's not just ICE what makes XSI an amazing product, but its whole workflow. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Tim Marinov tim.mari...@gmail.com wrote: And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't make enough

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2012-12-19 Thread Andi Farhall
December 2012 17:03 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't make enough money from it. But who cares as someone said the world will end in a couple of days :) On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Tim

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2012-12-19 Thread Mathieu Leclaire
I'm sorry... but how exactly does it hurt the user? If what you are hearing happens to be true... doesn't that just mean good news for Maya? I don't see any bad news for Softimage here. Softimage ain't loosing anything. It's Maya whose gaining. Even if Softimage ends up loosing some user base

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2012-12-19 Thread David Gallagher
Good thoughts. The irritating thing to me is that the Maya/Max world doesn't understand the workflow strengths of Softimage. If those tools elsewhere turn out to be better, that's great. But lately it just feels like momentum is the driving force, not quality of software. Dave G On

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2012-12-19 Thread Adam Sale
and if Maya does adopt ICE, well, then we users who are familiar with ICE stand to gain, as it would make learning maya a little less painful. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Good thoughts. The irritating thing to me is that the Maya/Max

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2012-12-19 Thread Alok Gandhi
Plus the ICE TDs will become more hireable . . . :) Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-20, at 12:18 AM, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: and if Maya does adopt ICE, well, then we users who are familiar with ICE stand to gain, as it would make learning maya a little less painful. On

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2012-12-19 Thread Daniel H
Softimage is better than its ever been and yet every year we still have to go through the death rumors... tradition I guess. Ultimately the software is owned by AD and they have the option to nurture it or destroy it as they please. If AD robs the best bits and innovation from Softimage, then I'm

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2012-12-19 Thread Doeke Wartena
Well, that's the cycle of life. In the end, ain't that the beauty of our industry? Things are evolving rapidly. There are always new softwares, new technologies to learn and adopt. Old non evolving technologies slowly die to make way to new better technologies. There are schools that teach

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2012-12-19 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Its like an oil company suppressing the pursuit of alternative fuels, by artificially balancing out any innovation AD has succeeded in keeping the industry stagnant for the past decade On 19 December 2012 19:05, Doeke Wartena clankil...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's the cycle of life. In the

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2012-12-19 Thread Steven Caron
exactly, why are you surprised? they hired the talent (whats left of it that is!) that made ICE and the talent that made Naiad. if that wasn't good enough indication about what was going to happen then i dont know what is! On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Francois Lord flordli...@gmail.com

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2012-12-19 Thread César Sáez
Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who can actually do something about it, we don't have the proper context to know what is happening and what is coming. We've been through this, not again!

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2012-12-19 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Wish The Foundry had bought Softimage... From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of César Sáez Sent: 19 décembre 2012 14:56 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who

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2012-12-19 Thread Steven Caron
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *César Sáez *Sent:* 19 décembre 2012 14:56 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who can actually do something about it, we don't have

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2012-12-19 Thread Steffen Dünner
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *César Sáez *Sent:* 19 décembre 2012 14:56 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who can actually do something about it, we don't have

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2012-12-19 Thread Graham Bell
: Re: Rumors Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors? Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they are saying. On Dec 20, 2012 7:27 AM, Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.commailto:javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: Well... what happened here today?. Lot of panic!. I

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2012-12-19 Thread Williams, Wayne
+1 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Bystrom Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors that would be a good idea yes On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Eric

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2012-12-19 Thread Steffen Dünner
I'd boot all people mentioning the two M-products from Ad on this list! ;) 2012/12/19 Andreas Bystrom andreas.byst...@gmail.com that would be a good idea yes On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Can we boot people from the list for starting or

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2012-12-19 Thread Cristobal Infante
...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Bystrom *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** that would be a good idea yes On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote: Can we boot people

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2012-12-19 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
A Rumor will have been around the whole world before the Truth has its shoes on. If only the Truth stopped being such a precious F'in princess and started running barefoot... ICE was evolutionary, fresh, new, well thought, much needed, and an inspiration to many when it came out. It is, however,

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2012-12-19 Thread Steven Caron
ya, lets not overreact... in this case it isn't a rumor, we know autodesk bought both softimage and naiad... we know they re-tasked our developers... we know maya fears the houdini fx dominance... so of course they are going to make new fx tools in maya. and besides, node graphs and

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2012-12-19 Thread Paul Doyle
+1 On 19 December 2012 17:12, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: ya, lets not overreact... in this case it isn't a rumor, we know autodesk bought both softimage and naiad... we know they re-tasked our developers... we know maya fears the houdini fx dominance... so of course they are going

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2012-12-19 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Tim and others should feel free to post here, and as one of the admin of this list I will make sure he continues to have the rights to, as per Autodesk social media policy, and plain common sense. I fought for this mailing list to stay up; it exists for users to talk to each other. On Wed, Dec

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2012-12-19 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Am I the only one on this list that ever risked a ban by you back then? ;) But yeah, I can't say I liked the post much, or found it particularly useful, but it's hardly inflamatory and doesn't feel malicious. I'll take the occasional post like that over the police state feeling of an overly

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2012-12-19 Thread olivier jeannel
Come on, it's almost fun in the end :) And, in 40 years when THEY will stop Softimage, people will say : - Ah, I told you so ! Le 19/12/2012 21:43, Eric Thivierge a écrit : Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors? Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they

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2012-12-19 Thread Chris Chia
Hi Tim, ICE will not move to Maya but Maya may integrate a system similar to ICE. This move should actually benefit all Softimage users... Think about it, wouldn't all Softimage ICE users benefit this new system first with our prior knowledge of ICE compared to the newbies... As for whether

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2012-12-19 Thread Matt Lind
different from Maya's. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:10 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Hi Tim, ICE will not move to Maya but Maya may

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2012-12-19 Thread Matt Lind
for some. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Rumors The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you

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2012-12-19 Thread Ciaran Moloney
I'd guess 90% of ICE users don't know what goes on under the hood. They do OK. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.comwrote: The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you know how to construct the graphs efficiently to accomplish goals. Having a

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2012-12-19 Thread Matt Lind
Of Ciaran Moloney Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:02 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors I'd guess 90% of ICE users don't know what goes on under the hood. They do OK. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.commailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote

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2012-12-19 Thread Rob Chapman
, December 19, 2012 5:02 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors I'd guess 90% of ICE users don't know what goes on under the hood. They do OK. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: The value is understanding how things work under

Re: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Andy Moorer
There's always been rumor and silliness on this list. Personally I like hearing the rumors - if its traveling around word-of-mouth I'd just as soon hear it here too, where it can be refuted (or not.) Sure some people get worked up (me? Never!) and bandwidth is used, but the more free-flowing

RE: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Chris Chia
Modini… LOL From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andy Moorer Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:14 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors There's always been rumor

Re: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Sorry for the reduced quote, but how many of those do you actually know or hear about? I can count exactly zero. I have yet to hear about ANYBODY using Soft just for ICE and going back and forth, unless they already had licenses and reason to have it around. Those who would use Soft solely for

RE: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Matt Lind
...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Sorry for the reduced quote, but how many of those do you actually know or hear about? I can count exactly zero. I have yet to hear about ANYBODY using Soft

Re: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
] *On Behalf Of *Raffaele Fragapane *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Rumors ** ** Sorry for the reduced quote, but how many of those do you actually know or hear about? I can count exactly zero. I have yet to hear about ANYBODY

Re: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread olivier jeannel
Come on, it's almost fun in the end :) And, in 40 years when THEY will stop Softimage, people will say : - Ah, I told you so ! Le 19/12/2012 21:43, Eric Thivierge a écrit : Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors? Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they

RE: Rumors

2012-12-19 Thread Sandy Sutherland
] Sent: 20 December 2012 08:52 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Rumors Come on, it's almost fun in the end :) And, in 40 years when THEY will stop Softimage, people will say : - Ah, I told you so ! Le 19/12/2012 21:43, Eric Thivierge a écrit : Can we boot people from the list

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Jens Lindgren
*BTW Exocortex is committed to the Softimage user community, it is both good business for us and it is very personally rewarding. :-)* Nice to hear that Ben, but I think you just have to prove it by porting Slipstream 2 to ICE ;) /Jens On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Ben Houston

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Ben Houston
SlipstreamVX 2 isn't even out yet! :-) We have thought about integrating SlipstreamVX to the Momentum product and having both interact with each other, but we haven't yet decided on this. We do have Fury 2 and ImplosiaFX 2 scheduled for release for Softimage in the next little while though.

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Ciaran Moloney
How about integrating Momentum and ImplosiaFX? That would be a super combo! Ciaran On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote: SlipstreamVX 2 isn't even out yet! :-) We have thought about integrating SlipstreamVX to the Momentum product and having both interact

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Simon Reeves
I wish the rumours were true (about max) On 4 September 2012 15:53, Ciaran Moloney moloney.cia...@gmail.com wrote: How about integrating Momentum and ImplosiaFX? That would be a super combo! Ciaran On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote: SlipstreamVX 2

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Stefan Kubicek
Why? I wish the rumours were true (about max) On 4 September 2012 15:53, Ciaran Moloney moloney.cia...@gmail.com wrote: How about integrating Momentum and ImplosiaFX? That would be a super combo! Ciaran On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Jens Lindgren
The rumor was that they will stop developing 3ds max for animation, not kill it. The response was that they will not kill it and didn't even mention the animation, and at the same time saying that 3ds max Design has a 10x larger userbase. So I still think that design is where they are going with

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Simon Reeves
Because I use it at work at the moment and need to convince them to switch to softimage :) On 4 September 2012 16:51, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote: Why? I wish the rumours were true (about max) On 4 September 2012 15:53, Ciaran Moloney moloney.cia...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Stefan Kubicek
Been there, tried that, failed, quit my job in the end and am now my own boss. At least you're not using Maya for game dev as I had to for five years of my life ;-) Evil times! Because I use it at work at the moment and need to convince them to switch to softimage :) On 4 September 2012

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Len Krenzler
I think the rumor is so popular because it's everyone's collective wishful thinking that Max would somehow end :) I think the chance of that approaches 0 as my math teacher used to be fond of saying... On 9/4/2012 10:21 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: Been there, tried that, failed, quit my job in

Re: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-04 Thread Stefan Andersson
3dsmax and Softimage will live long and prosper just as Toxik and MatchMover does. :) /stefan On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Len Krenzler l...@creativecontrol.ca wrote: I think the rumor is so popular because it's everyone's collective wishful thinking that Max would somehow end :) I

RE: Rumors about 3ds Max and MotionBuilder

2012-09-03 Thread J Atkinson
I know it sounds crazy, but I wouldn't doubt it. I still think ADs plan was to shift most animators away from 3ds max when they came out with 3ds max design. push arch viz to a specialized app, port ice to Maya and now all of a sudden you have 1 major 3d app to support instead of 3. JA

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