2014-03-22 13:00 GMT-04:00 Jeffrey Dates jda...@kungfukoi.com:
As someone who uses both packages...
You can already make overrides, ( some might argue even easier in Maya.. )
However, the issue is how to manage and quickly visualize the data
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As I'm also using
Exactly, they're here now, because they want to alienate us with new
improvements thanks to softimage users, why they don't listen Maya users
in their proper channels. They've been asking a lot of improvements over a
decade; but asking Softimage users, it's like they're trying quietly to
drag us
As someone who uses both packages...
I think Soft users underestimate Render Layers in Maya. Granted, the
horror stories would turn anyone off... but like anything there are the
workarounds to the minefield. #1 being, don't put materials on polygon
faces. ( hey, in soft you don't put them on
+1 on what Jeffrey said.
Regarding whether this is a good thing to do now or not, I say it is (and I
think you know that isn't
easy for me if you my position on this entire situation).
Hey, at least they ARE asking! Better late than never.
Should it have been done earlier? Yes.
Should we never
] On Behalf Of Ed Manning
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage to Maya rendering requests
Thanks for speaking up, Laurence. I'm sure your intentions are good, and
the effort is appreciated. We are however, very upset with your bosses
Hello,
My name is Laurence Cymet, I am the product manager for lighting and rendering
on Maya. In the past few weeks I've been out to talk to many Softimage
customers, and I can certainly understand your frustration with the move to EOL
Softimage, so we're doing what we can to improve things.
Hi Laurence
I appreciate the offer. I wish more Maya peeps would have chimed in years
ago. One of the things I love most about Softimage are the Render Passes/
Partitions/ Overrides. I know Maya added render layers some time in 2008 I
believe but from what I heard from maya users was that it
Hi Laurence,
With all do respect to you personally, but I still don't understand why
these kind of questions are being asked -now-.
AD had SI for 5 years, and most of the SI team went to AD as well as
part of the aquisition.
With all this recent talk about making Maya better and looking to
In my opinion either the current Maya pass system gets improved to
something that is functional and doesn't break easily or Autodesk
implements a new more nodal approach to deal with passes which is reliable
and doesn't get abandoned as a feature (keeps improving and/or bug fixed)
along the years.
On 3/21/2014 1:16 PM, Rob Wuijster wrote:
So please don't insult us by finally popping in after the kill to see
how you can lure us in to start using Maya.
Please don't shoot the messanger... its ok to take clear careful aim at
the ones who made the decisions that led us here... but screaming
Hi Laurence,
Thanks for requesting our feedback, since this is probably one of
our biggest concerns.
Before we go through the obvious, do you
understand the softimage passes/partition/override? How do you compare them
to Render Layers in Maya? How do you think the Maya RL can be
improved?
From
Thanks for speaking up, Laurence. I'm sure your intentions are good, and
the effort is appreciated. We are however, very upset with your bosses'
decision-making and how it has played out so far. Please don't take it
personally. It is rather a bitter pill that you guys are only speaking to
us
: Re: Softimage to Maya rendering requests
Thanks for speaking up, Laurence. I'm sure your intentions are good, and the
effort is appreciated. We are however, very upset with your bosses'
decision-making and how it has played out so far. Please don't take it
personally. It is rather a bitter
By Jove, I think he's got it!
;-)
One question -- might just be a terminology/translation issue between Mayan
and Softese -- in point 3, when you say without entering the layer, I
assume you mean what currently happens when you click on/highlight the
layer. If that's correct, then yeah, you'd
I am not sure I saw one particular thing covered - when I build render passes new geo gets added along the way
after setting up the initial passes. When I do this I need to put this geo into a new partition and create a new pass for that geo. The new geo needs to be handled in
This is excellent to see, Laurence. Thank you for the interest.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote:
I am not sure I saw one particular thing covered - when I build render
passes new geo gets added along the way after setting up the initial
passes.
Hi Laurence:
I think a lot of confusion (imho) stems from the different ways
different renderers implement their UIs into Maya, especially how
VRay/MtoA and mental ray (the only 3 I have experience in, I don't know
about others like Maxwell but I imagine it's a similar situiation) all
have
Hi Laurence --
While improvements to the process are conceivable, and it would be
wonderful to make design decisions now that will allow for them, please
don't lose sight of the nearer-term goal of usability!
Dynamic/conditional tools sound interesting.
There are also some things about the
Is there a way we can actually improve on the process? Perhaps overrides
and assignments could be done conditionally with a dynamic rule? Is a
stack better than a node graph? Let me know if you have had any wishes in
the past.
first off - the passes and partitions system is not just used for
annd its not all perfect in Softimage Partitions and overrides land.
problems can arise in very complex scenes where changing passes - and
having all the overrides applied individually to the scene elements
can be a real pain to wait for.
talking hours not minutes.
perhaps an offline mode to
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