Re: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Apologies. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:12, Nicky Marshall wrote: > > Most of the responses do not seem to have answered your question if you are > specifically looking for an upright ESFR sprinkler. > > To my knowledge, the K17 Tyco TY7126 is the

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Sorry for my prior response - I missed the word "upright"... John Corcoran Senior Communications Manager john.corco...@globesprinkler.com Direct: (989) 414-2251/Office: (989) 846-4583 From: Sprinklerforum

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

That is a very involved question - offhand, I am curious how the pump could be 'too high pressure' for smaller k factor sprinklers. Most sprinklers have similar maximum operating pressures - k factor does not usually play a role there. There are so many variables here, it could be that your

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

First, many did answer your question. A K17 upright by other than Tyco is not available on the market. That was stated a couple times. Then, others offered some possible alternatives that could be investigated for your specific project by a qualified fire sprinkler professional. Now, based

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

That is true. No one has come forward with what I requested as of yet. My need is specific as I am purchasing a used diesel split case pump that is 2000 gallons per minute and my sprinkler design guy claims the pump is too high pressure for ESFR sprinklers heads that have a k factor of 16.8

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Just to clarify, in case anyone wasn't aware, the referenced EC storage sprinklers, Tyco TY9128 and the Viking V595, are not ESFR sprinklers. They are CMDA / CMSA standard response. Larry Keeping From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Nicky

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Can you give more info on your application/issue? There are lots of options out there, but it is hard to know if we are pointing you in the right direction without more details. Matt From: Jeff Polke [mailto:jpo...@gcioutdoor.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2018 5:30 AM To:

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

You may also want to look at the Victaulic LP-46 (model V4603). It has a 25.2 K-Factor although it does have specific guidelines on how and when it can be used, but it may fit your needs. Mike Stossel SET [400dpiLogoCropped] 36 Barren Road East Stroudsburg, PA 18302 Office: 973-670-2627

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Most of the responses do not seem to have answered your question if you are specifically looking for an upright ESFR sprinkler. To my knowledge, the K17 Tyco TY7126 is the biggest upright ESFR unless you go Extended Coverage K25: TY9128 and Viking VK595. If you can go standard response (CMSA)

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RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Sorry but I didn’t jump down anyone’s throat. Re-read my post. But vague posts with minimal information lead to a lot of conclusions and as was evidenced, unrelated answers. This ain’t Twitter, and there’s no charge for using more letters to form your sentences and give a little more

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Bruce and Craig, Before you guys jump down someone’s throat and badger them maybe think for a second that they aren’t a fire sprinkler expert or even in the field at all. For all you know he owns a business and maybe is second guessing a contractor (we all know there are bad ones out there) or

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

If you're totally at a loss, Google K17 ESFR and you'll get a list of various manufacturers who make various types of ESFR sprinklers. I'm confused why so many don't use the tools available such as Google searches when this resource is there, it's fast and costs nothing. I never mind helping

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Oops forgot Tyco/JCI: K25 http://tyco-fire.com/index.php?P=product=S3 John Corcoran Senior Communications Manager john.corco...@globesprinkler.com Direct: (989) 414-2251/Office: (989) 846-4583 From: Sprinklerforum

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Reliable: K22 and K25 https://www.reliablesprinkler.com/products/sprinklers?pctid[]=64 Viking: K22, K25, K28 http://www.vikingcorp.com/products/viking-fire-sprinklers/storage/esfr-early-suppression-fast-response-sprinklers

Re: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

I don’t understand how designers with sufficient experience and expertise to design an ESFR automatic fire sprinkler system wouldn’t be able to know who manufactures the product you describe. ESFR systems can be effective. Design of ESFR systems also have complicated criteria. Failure to

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

I didn't even read that. NFPA 13 uses nominal k-factors. There is no difference in a K17 and K16.8. Look in Chapter 6. You will see anything with a range of 16.0-17.6 is to be calculated at k16.8 Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Just curious - why 17 and not 16.8? Matt From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 10:37 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17 Never

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

I believe you are going to be out of luck. As far as I know, Tyco is the only one that makes one. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Never mind, just re-read your post and see you wanted an upright Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Polke Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:30 AM To:

RE: Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Jeff- Viking makes a 25.2K (VK510) Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Polke Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:30 AM To:

Help Finding ESFR upright greater than K17

Good morning all. I am looking for an expert in ESFR sprinkler heads to help me find a ESFR upright head with at least a K factor 17(not 16.8). There does not seem to be other companies that make these ESFR other Tyco. Please let me know. Thanks. Jeffrey Polke Co-President