I've never run into it. Assuming the air in the pressure tank is sufficient
without the refill, this would be analogous to putting a jockey pump on backup
power.
I'm bidding a project adding a tiny dry system fed by plant air that is shut
off two days a year.
Rather than an air compressor to
The discharge permit for the nearby Happy Valley Twp. Municipal Authority
sewage treatment plant was based on a calculated streamflow of 3.22 cubic feet
per second at low flow conditions - the lowest 7-day period typically seen in
10 years (Q7-10). The calculation was made by using a ratio of
Closer hanger spacing with Side Sammy's, trapeze the mains and maybe try to
position them close to the building columns to minimize the amount of weight
mid-span.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
Why not show him the spray patterns, someone must publish one.
Or
Show him the responses from your brethren, including at least one FPE.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
be appreciated.
(All messages from George Church to the forum get snagged by my Trend Micro
- please don't be tempted to turn this into a series of with George's
reputation it's surprising it hasn't happened a long time ago responses)
Bill Brooks
William N. Brooks, P.E.
Brooks Fire Protection Engineering
Ok, Dave, you brought back a memory from ASCOA District 6, Phila.
David got a call and motioned me to come over, put the guy on speaker phone, he
was explaining how incompetent David was because the air capacity calc didn't
use the equivalent footage so we had to up it by adding 10' x volume in
How about your spelling?
( I know, I should talk)
TGIF, outa here - firesafe weekend, ALL
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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As in Bob?
George L. Church, Jr., CET
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877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On
The grass in his neighborhood, being a desert, is sold in stores if you have
the right piece of paper.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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Ron couldn't possibly upset Steve, they're friends. Ron blurted out a deep-felt
response, similar to my quick rant when someone calls going to convention a
vacation. A change of pace, yes, a lot of fun, yes, but seminars and networking
certainly aren't what I do on vacation at the beach.so
Since the I Beams above will be exposed to heat rising past the panels, the
only way to protect their integrity would be to provide protection below the
concrete deck up high.
The engineer must have a lot higher confidence level in the ability of
sprinklers to activate and control a fire than
it, And these are not ducts but I see
no difference except in depth of the metal panels. Maybe a Committee member
needs to look at this.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.comwrote:
Since the I Beams above will be exposed to heat rising past the
panels, the only way to protect
I know we don't have time to bid it once, but doing a base bid for what's
shown, and an ADDER for the CC2's with a description like required to meet
code and if they accept it, you and they are covered.
If they don't, then at least you have the leg to stand on that you educated
them on what was
He may be doing an ESFR AF warehouse.dry would mean Quell in high piled.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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That's why this Forum is here, Scot!
Enjoy the weekend.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
!
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George
If you don't locate each separate sensing line between the discharge check and
gate, then you're not reading the correct zone if the discharge valve is closed.
No sense in monitoring the pressure in the discharge zone of a different pump-
it could drop, and the pump whose sensing line is piped
If you're asking why I think you're asking, it may require two separate flows,
one at the end of the in-racks, one at the end of the roof system. Throttle
flows to balance and replicate the design flows against each other, and you'd
have the bucket test for a commercial application I think
RIGHT
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
a code reference handy? I just got done looking at every instance
in 13 of the word 'insulation' but have not found anything addressing this
issue, nor in ch 8.
Thx,
RB
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com wrote:
From: George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com
Subject: RE: Attic
Has anyone faced a situation where CPVC was to be run in a concrete pour above
metal deck?
Trying to think of related impacts besides the obvious couple-
What happens when you can't access the piping for repair and ITM?
What might be different between CPVC and Steel in this encasement?
How do
Hurricanes get you a one-year delay hall pass, Todd-
gotcha to Providence, and considering it a victory and look forward to seeing
you in future.
Sorry I won't get to see you.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE
Almost hilltop, will have time to build an ark. Shop safely above flooding- but
we've had our share. Y'all got pounded up there, tho, in the first round.
Hope digging out is manageable. Whether its 3 or 30, its drywall,
floorboards, your ruined crap
Hang in there,
George L. Church, Jr.,
Its not necessarily a code thing, it just keeps the AF from becoming diluted.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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Pretty standard in food plants, buy machine rod and thread the ends. Commodity
item, should be able to get from any misc steel vendor or sprinkler fab shop.
Be glad they don't require SS, bitch to thread but it least it doesn't leak
like steel pipe threads tend to do.
George L. Church, Jr.,
by hand? Got several
hundred to get fabricated and need to see how long my shop will be tied up.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:49 AM
I won't argue that QR is a great idea, and will assist in keeping the fire
smaller helping compensate for increased response time, BUT-
If you were playing plan-spec game, you've just had the AHJ make a blanket
ruling that all areas are OH 1 and QR is no longer required in the Attic or
13D in Assisted, Not IL ?
Just brings back memories of the deaths in the 13D protected Group Home in NY
State.
Monday morning quarterbacking made it clear that it was a totally insufficient
design given the inability of many occupants to self-preserve, they were
wandering back in after being
My recollection of the story (and I'm over 55 but NOT as old as Jim) is that
the applicable NY Law was met.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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Best thing for a contractor to do in this case is NOT to just put on cages that
work, but to first check with the Mfr for a listed/Approved model; if none
available, RFI Architect and ask for direction since specified item does not
appear to be available.
It would be smart to check with more
Ken Wagoner, SET
760.745.6181 voice
760.745.0537 fax
parsleyconsult...@cox.net mailto:parsleyconsult...@cox.nete-mail
www.ParsleyConsulting.com http://www.ParsleyConsulting.comwebsite
On 9/6/2011 9:57 AM, George Church wrote:
Best thing for a contractor to do in this case is NOT to just put
No.
20251600012010
1480 SW 3RD Street Suite 9
Pompano Beach, Fl 33411
954-785-7800 800-372-2770 Telephone
954-785-7804 Fax
From: George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
sprinklerforum
Why don't you tell them that this is:
Bad design
Not what was contemplated by FM Global when developing the ESFR protection
criteria
Spacing of sprinklers over flue and aisle is unnecessary
Costs way too much just to do it wrong.
Perhaps the Owner's property insurance carrier rep or the local BCO
I'd agree, Bill, but here in our cozy spot, we generally know who we all are,
often have met, and know where people's strengths and weaknesses are.
For example, if Leyton says something about standpipes, I'll run into battle
without unquestioning with his answer.
If someone else questions his
-7804 Fax
From: George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 3:45:36 PM
Subject: RE: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
No.
Maybe even worse
No.
Maybe even worse.
I remember in mid/late 70's we'd explain to the PEs what the reams of computer
printouts meant
(generated by the mainframe in Cleveland HQ by guys in white coats on raised
floors)
After we got done our explanation, they'd stamp em approved and send em back to
us.
Yes,
One of my SoCal friends was told a 300' x 5' corridor was the proper remote
area for a corridor on a NAVFEC project.
His words: Fortunately, I was out of bullets that day.
So it could be you getting lucky, it could be the NAVFAC FPE getting lucky. Ask
your question and spin the wheel!
George
Where is it written that 750 SF of A2 occupancy means it's not incidental?
I've never encountered it, maybe I'll learn something today.
I've gotten approval to use 13R in a building PRIMARILY residential (dorm rooms
in urban setting, 20 mi remote from main campus)
But it had common areas, small
Of George Church
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 4:04 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Assembly area in R occupancy
Where is it written that 750 SF of A2 occupancy means it's not incidental?
I've never encountered it, maybe I'll learn something today.
I've gotten approval to use
Awesome observation of the obvious others missed :)
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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If there is an outside stair down to a basement level, then that defines the
lowest level of FD entry, so be careful.
Can add 15' to your elevation when starting a story below grade.
Wouldn't want to omit all the high-rise baggage!
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO
, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com wrote:
From: George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com
Subject: RE: 75' Bldg Height
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 12:05 PM
If there is an outside stair down to a basement level
I'd agree that a flexible drop listed for dry systems, or not limited in its
listing to wet, installed in a manner that goes up off the line and then down
to the sprinkler, will fulfill the intent of the code both in language, intent
and actually DO what it is supposed to do.
IF I was entitled
And it is unusual in our operating areas to have the fire flows enforced.
So if you have an OH1 density, you may only need to furnish 15,000 gallons if
you have no hydrants or hose supplied by the tank pump.
I sell a lot of tanks and pumps with 30,000 gal for OH II retail when my
competitor
Excel? AFSA ? NFSA? Old ASCOA forms?
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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While I'm tempted to say old-style sprinklers as still used in fur vaults and
roundhouses
(doesn't everyone do three or four of these a year?)
Half the water up, half down-
But by controlling the fire below the deck above, you're protecting it by
controlling the fire below that threatens it.
If your request popped up here, I think you didand Welcome back!
Thank heavens for the internet, the long distance rates would have been killer.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
There's a chart in 13R for calc'g domestic demand for typ plumbing, and in an
admin bldg you've got process water?
I believe if you run 6 UG in, you don't need to acct for anything but AS+
combined hose.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
Not that unusual for multiple placards.
One MRA might need a hi pres w/low flow.
Another lower pres, but more GPM.
It's for future generations to know what you were thinking.
And LOL when people don't round to nearest 5 GPM, or have ANY significant
digits right of the decimal point in pres.
Saw
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:39 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Pipe stand topper
To: AFSA
Attn: Steve Muncy
Mr. Muncy:
I apologize, for making fun of the fruity cocktails and George Church.
Please look
I agree- plant air from across the building or even in another building is a
valid air supply.
I'd add it sure would be handy to have a valve before the AMD in the room. And
the AMD should be in the room so you can see the gauge of what you're adjusting.
Sep AMD reqd for each DPV.
George L.
Only one question- was the mtg documented so you have a copy to take to court
in 2014?
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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http://www.tuffwrap.com/suspended-cover.html
Has anyone encountered this industrial-strength Saran Wrap stretched across a
room for various reasons like dust control?
One of our AJ friends asked if we'd seen it, and hadn't.
Supposedly it melts at 180*F
Not sure about flame spread, etc.
Have a variance hearing end of month, helpful- TX!
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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Might try calling Joe Burtell in MT
Might want to look at HydraCAD frm NH, we're pleased with them as a lot of
others are.
And a lot of AutoSprink customers love it.
And there's SprinkCAD-
Might check forum archives, doubt there's a best.
Any more than grooved or threaded is better.
George L.
Have you found a manometer?
As important, have you found the directions on how to use a manometer?
I'm assuming these are suprotex systems with mercury checks - one of the most
delightfully simple, effective and fast systems ever developed- and it was
back, what, over 50 years ago?
No electric
Tom,
I'm a bit curious- some of the products look strangely familiar.
Are these products you already have being distributed by others in the USA, or
are they products made by others that you re-sell, or a combination of the two?
Your brochure mentions the Potter Automatic Air Release by name,
, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.comwrote:
Hmm, I'm not sure why meeting the system demand is a failure.
So I have a site with a proposed building.
City can meet demand, but not the 150%.
You'd install a tank and pump while I bid pump.
Good luck with that conservatism in the real world.
Had
What Todd said
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On
Subject: Re: Pump, Tank, 1000 ft suction line.
George, what did you mean by Don't think you'd have a need to provide positive
suction head at 150%. Doesn't NFPA #20 5.14.3.2 require it to stay above 0 (or
-3 for tanks) while flowing 150%?
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM, George Church g
Whoa!
Where does the 60 minute water duration come from?
It's not brought in from #13 on that short list that I see.
So you need the appropriate density for the 13R water supply duration-
Don't need no stinkin hose allowance in 13R
And you may be able to call the storage area OH 1 and .15.
Like Marriott's requirement to use NFPA 13, not 13R?
Draft STOPs aren't required, can be curtains of plywood coming down 8 or 1/3
the depth. Take a look at the Tyco catalog data on CC1 and CC2 sprinklers-
explains it all nicely.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:00:21
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.orgsprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Reply-To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: CC1/CC2 or COIN
Why not take a piece of paper, write down the length of the run, multiply it by
the FL/ft, and use a calculator to multiply the two and get the friction loss?
Then correct for any dif in elevation by multiplying the dif x .433.
It really isn't that hard and you really don't need a pc to run a
the AHJ's -
especially hand written things. You would think a multi thousand dollar program
would be able to take the calc from a tank to the pump and to the system in one
report - but it looks like that's not the case.
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com wrote:
From
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:45 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Attic storage design on a 13R system
Where do you see NFPA 13R, your installation
Well, its way better than AF off dry.keep the path to what I assume is a
new DPV as short as possible from incoming service to minimize AF into dry.
Otherwise, at first glance it seems logical.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
Well, at least I'm certain she's working for a firm that IS a member of the
AFSA.. :)
Tell Don hey from us and again Thank him for the hours he puts in for the
Association.
For those that don't know, this Forum is given to us by the AFSA membership,
and Don Kaufman is Chair of the BOD (not
Are you asking:
what is proper protection under the IBC as a minimum?
What is required under #13?
What is the scope of work that you are to include in your bid?
From the sound of your question, you're the BCO and wondering whether to
accept this protection strategy; however, I'll bet you should
I was a little concerned when an evangelical pastor I was supposed to meet on
Tuesday didn't show up for the meeting.
Seriously, just a caution- if you want to cause leaks in a system, suck the air
out of it and watch the vic rubbers peel in get sucked into the pipe,
especially reducing
Never saw a bona fide design for a grocery store that wasn't at least OH2. Have
seen an AHJ try to add AS under the shelves since the combined width of the
back to back gondolas exceeded 4' in width. Also was told by a firefighter/code
guy that he'd witnessed a grocery store fire, and the fire
How many watts to you need to see thru 2 layers of 5/8?
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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I'm trying to get out of here, and I haven't looked at it as a PA valve, but I
can see it may have merit as a DPV. Am impressed with its wonderful simplicity
and am contemplating using it on a small dry system we're about to do.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box
Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: recommended pre-action system
I'm trying to get out of here, and I haven't looked at it as a PA valve, but I
can see it may have merit as a DPV. Am impressed with its wonderful simplicity
and am
I'm NOT an FPE but the bread crates sure resemble the characteristics of a
plastic pallet more than conventional storage of a bulk material of unexpanded
group A.
Compounding the risk is that each of the exposed surfaces is smaller than a
plastic pallet, hence more surface area per unit of
I was just exempted from a local water purveyor's degradation model, and it was
pretty easy.
The City has a local amendment requiring use of the degraded supply. So in
their limits, you have to do so.
BUT in the neighboring townships, you CAN'T absent a duly adopted local
amendment, since the
We switched over to them years ago and believe they are a cost-effective tool.
Echo the hydraulic impact, especially if you're using - well, the extreme would
be using them with 20x20 ECOH AS in retail, you'll see the impact of 80 GPM
going thru it especially.
Requires a hydraulic evaluation in
We prefer to do these as simply as possible-
Concealed sprinklers to aid in protection from mechanical injury, wet.
And Since Viking and Victaulic have chimed in, we should expect other mfrs that
also offer a prepack to chime in, or at least now know that there are multiple
choices if you need
There is if you have high-speed internet-
Otherwise, there is NOTHING like this anywhere in the world!
CONGRATS to a great group!
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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Guess you know the obvious answer to that- CONVENTION.
Except it was NFSA's, not AFSA's, that most of the students came out for in
Baltimore.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
Actually, no, we can't.
you have to do it yourself.
George L. Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
I used to think that the BB series would be great for tough spots like running
down the ridge of a church sanctuary.
HOWEVER-
I stood beside a flowing BB at Tyco's Cranston facility and the spray pattern
is definitely configured to control a fire in an unused combustible ATTIC.
There is almost
Ok, there were heat collectors in the old ASCOA special hazards manual, however
they were intended to be for our HADs.
Back in the day of mercury checksboy, what we didn't know then.
However, 25 ms response was achieved, gotta give some credit for that!
I have heard using these for
It is generally frustrating to work with most water purveyors.
The City of Lancaster, PA degrades their water supply thru modeling that with
57 PSI in front of a house, we couldn't flow a single sprinkler on the 3rd
floor.
So for 25 houses we installed tanks and pumps instead of dealing with
I believe they are one of the oldest and largest mfrs and wouldn't be overly
concerned.
If there were numerous problems, one would think they wouldn't get the
UL/FM/VDS approvals.
However, I do recall in the early 80's there was a mfr (NOT SPP!!) that was a
bit premature in getting the FM mark
It's only when new homes become old homes that they are dangerous to the
occupants. We need to have someone omnipotent determine when that is- say at 30
years old- and then require them to be sprinklered at 29.9 years old.
Sorry, there just isn't any way to logically debate this stuff. We went
Ok, so why NOT leave them in there in case for some reason they are NEEDED (as
opposed to required)?
Doesn't make sense (except as you noted, an illusion of coverage) to spend
money to remove protection.
A couple years from now they could have a roof leak, tiles are pulled, a week
later
I think it speaks volumes about political clout when I hear on the radio this
AM that the sprinkler repeal bill is the FIRST piece of legislation to hit the
governor's desk.
Looking at all the concerns the legislature should address and discuss: Our
Budget, Marcellus Shale taxes, our budget,
Agreed- we also had an extended alarm time that bleeding air off cured.
A similar best practices item would be what is the best way(s) to provide
longevity to dry-pipe systems. I have a *% PE making us hot-dip after welding
outlets (or thread galv 4 sch 40) which started me investigating.
There
That certainly does simplify things, like the 3x and 4x rules- compared to
memorizing the beam rule for various distances and sprinkler types.
KISS, same concept FM applied to new DS.
(vrs KISS and I'll buy ya a drink)
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
http://www2.highlandstoday.com/content/2011/apr/08/081152/investigators-examine-accident-scene-where-2-died/news/
Trust we'll hear more about this tragedy, but be forewarned. Didn't see this up
here yet, pardon me if I am repeating- pretty important.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc
to watch out for.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris
got me a $1.7m job, so don't necessarily think
you're wasting your time.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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the remains are being analyzed.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf
facing slander charges, walk softly.
(do as I say, not as I do:) !
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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others look it up
for them for no compensation?
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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And I believe that WFS has no retard, so trapping the high pressure surges into
this piping minimizes potential for false trips.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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that are hopefully right the first time, but
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
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JD-
Glad you agree, you told me about this at NICET the other day..
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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of people asking dumb questions with no expertise in response.
Let's move on.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com
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