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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of njarendt tds.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:22 PM
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Interesting discussion and just a side point. As I
Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
Date: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 9:23 am
I'm not surprised there are errors after state review. In PA, the DOH asks that
we not include the calcs since they don't review them.
I certainly hope PennDOT looks at the structural calcs on bridge work, can't
understand how
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drbryan...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:10 AM
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Good point. Yet the calcs should
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:06 PM
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Those in the business
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On Behalf Of A.P.Silva
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:19 PM
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Was it different before 30 years
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Was it different before 30 years?
Tony
...about 35 years ago the only work we were doing was insurance mandated
warehouse and commercial property conservation systems for FM...IRI,etc.
When
the codes changed during the boom in the late 70
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That points to one of my favorite things about this controversy: When there
wasn't much going on techs were sufficient but when there became real and
sustained money to be made all of a sudden inexperienced engineers became more
knowledgeable by legislative fiat than
Greenman
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
That points to one of my favorite things about this controversy: When there
wasn't much going on techs were sufficient but when there became real and
sustained money
...@rowesprinkler.com
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:17 PM
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Kudos to you
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sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:44 AM
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That points
] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:48 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
To all;
This is not a question in reference to NFPA; however a cry for help to the
industry. Does anyone else run into this?
We prepare shop drawings
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:
sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:48 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
To all;
This is not a question
Welcome to the party...here in Florida we have been dealing with this stupidity
for 30 years.
John W. Farabee
Vice President Fire Sprinkler Operations
State License No. 20251600012010
1480 SW 3RD Street Suite 9
Pompano Beach, Fl 33411
954-785-7800 800-372-2770 Telephone
954-785-7804 Fax
Was it different before 30 years?
Tony
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 321
Sent: August 29, 2011 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
Welcome
: RE: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
Was it different before 30 years?
Tony
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 321
Sent: August 29, 2011 9:59 AM
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To all;
This is not a question in reference to NFPA; however a cry for help to the
industry. Does anyone else run into this?
We prepare shop drawings with calculations for every project, and for some
projects seismic design shop drawings with calculations. Here in TN
(although this
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:48 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
To all;
This is not a question in reference to NFPA; however a cry for help to the
industry. Does anyone else run into this?
We
Bobby,
Count yourself lucky.
There's an independent plan reviewer here in Southern California who on
their own initiative decided that fire sprinkler shop installation
drawings are for the use of others, and must be signed by the
contractor over their stamp.
Only one problem, the state
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:08 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
I've found this in some of our old specs and have tried to clean it up whenever
I can. However since the specifications are corporate wide
: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
I've found this in some of our old specs and have tried to clean it up
whenever I can. However since the specifications are corporate wide and I
don't see every project there are still some that I'm sure have verbiage to
this affect. Not trying to start a bashing match on PE's
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:37 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
We have tried to argue with the opposite response - 9 out of 10 times we
still had to provide from what I believe its easier to let it go
Of Bobby Gillett
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:48 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal
To all;
This is not a question in reference to NFPA; however a cry for help to the
industry. Does anyone else run into this?
We prepare shop drawings
Maybe I'm a little confused (wouldn't be the first time). I interpret a stamp
as being an ink transfer and a seal being an embossed likeness. I have the
embossing gun for my CT license, but have never used it.
When the design professional was putting a stamp on the drawing after a
review, was
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