[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

n.com > www.FergusonFire.com > > From: Brett Peters > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:01 PM > To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers > > Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed > > In these situations I always go back to the GC or build

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

.com/> From: Brett Peters Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:01 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed In these situations I always go back to the GC or building owner, project was bid to code and there was no d

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers > > Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed > > You can hang me out to dry if you wish but I would agree with the AHJ about > the isolation valves at the bottom of the risers. > > The only purpose of

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

lating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed You can hang me out to dry if you wish but I would agree with the AHJ about the isolation valves at the bottom of the risers. The only purpose of an isolation valve is to shutoff the riser for repairs so it needs a

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

Can you wrap the exposed pipe with fireproofing or find a spray-on product that is compatible with CPVC? Rick Matsuda > On May 30, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Brett Peters wrote: > >  > In these situations I always go back to the GC or building owner, project was > bid to code and there was no

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

If you are only talking about 1 or 2 closets, it would probably just be better to swap it out for a 1’ piece of 1” steel pipe with an elbow , transition to the CPVC in the neighboring room and walk away. > > On May 30, 2023 at 3:52 PM,

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

fax 260.487.7991 email mmo...@shambaugh.com [cid:image001.png@01D99310.B44E2400] From: Brett Peters Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 4:01 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed In these situations I always go back to th

[Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed

In these situations I always go back to the GC or building owner, project was bid to code and there was no disclosure of the AHJ’s requirements above (or different) than code, submit an extra and have the people that have to pay the bill go after the AHJ. Sometimes when someone’s lawyer gets

RE: CPVC Fitting

@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: r...@westernslopefire.com Subject: RE: CPVC Fitting Look at spears data Flame guard fittings -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 2:06 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc

RE: CPVC Fitting

klerforum Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:06 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Taylor Schumacher Subject: RE: CPVC Fitting BE ADVISED - This email originated outside EMCOR. Seems silly that a threaded female x threaded female fitting in CPVC would even exist? Taylor S

RE: CPVC Fitting

Look at spears data Flame guard fittings -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 2:06 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Taylor Schumacher Subject: RE: CPVC Fitting Seems silly

RE: CPVC Fitting

Seems silly that a threaded female x threaded female fitting in CPVC would even exist? Taylor Schumacher -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 2:18 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc:

Re: CPVC Drops in Seismic Areas

I’d always been skeptical of the adequacy of two seismic allowances in 13/13-R/13-D. After following up lots of spk system breaks post-Nisqually Earthquake I changed my mind. 1. Those long one or two head drops from roof level in a tilt-up to office build outs, including hard ceilings in

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CPVC Drops in Seismic Areas

Ha! No I don’t. Thank goodness. Yeah we wouldn’t need to do anything if the ceiling is braced. Michael Spatafore Design manager Aero Automatic Sprinkler Co. 602-399-0962 > On Mar 2, 2021, at 11:35 AM, J H via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > Sorry typed that out wrong " Drops and armovers

Re: CPVC Drops in Seismic Areas

Sorry typed that out wrong " Drops and armovers shall NOT require restraint." Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: CPVC Drops in Seismic Areas

I do a fair amount of work in seismic areas and drops were never an issue. 9.3.6.7 in the 2013 edition seems to corroborate that. "Drops and armovers shall require restraint". We do include them in the ZOI calculations though.

Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

Ken W. did this article a couple years ago. Afocn/Anvil and Tolco/Eaton have some braces. https://sprinklerage.com/seismic-bracing-of-cpvc-pipe/ "ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Ken Wagoner, C.F.P.E., C.W.B.S.P, S.E.T. " Seismic Bracing of CPVC Pipe August 29, 2018 please note comments: IMPORTANT NOTICE:

Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

December 30, 2020 2:36 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: Bob Knight > Subject: RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question > > Personally, I would provide the restraint and be done. As Travis said, > apply the less than 6" criteria and you sho

Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

I would hope that Tolco or Afcon or anyone else making those straps would get them listed for seismic. It seems like such small seismic loads. On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 7:09 PM J H via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Hello, > I thought that two hole straps used to

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

Subject: RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question Personally, I would provide the restraint and be done. As Travis said, apply the less than 6" criteria and you should be good with the CPVC hangers. 9.3.5.8.5 Four-way bracing shall not be required where risers pene

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

forum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: J H Subject: Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question So the sidewall sprinklers for the upper floor of this project are being fed from the system below due to freezing concerns at the upper level. Of course the line will be strapped to the wall fr

Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

December 30, 2020 12:28 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: Matthew J Willis > Subject: RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question > > To my knowledge, the 2 hole strap is listed as a hanger only. Not for > seismic. > > The second question is a

Re: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

vorite ferguson.com features. Apple iOS devices or Android devices** From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 12:27:54 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Matthew J Willis Subject: RE: CPVC EQ B

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 12:28 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Matthew J Willis Subject: RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question To my knowledge, the 2 hole strap is listed as a hanger only

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

To my knowledge, the 2 hole strap is listed as a hanger only. Not for seismic. The second question is a good one. I love Chapter 3, especially for seismic. Check 3.5.11 in the 2016 for a "Sprig". The standard mandates riser for 4 way if they exceed 3'-0". Riser Nipples, the piece between a

Re: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space

> From: "off...@afpfiresprinkler.com" > Date: 12/12/18 9:59 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space > > I missed to explain this part…. Thanks Steve. > > The concealed space will

Re: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space

; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.) Original message From: "off...@afpfiresprinkler.com" Date: 12/12/18 9:59 PM (GMT-08:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space I missed to explain

Re: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space

I missed to explain this part…. Thanks Steve. The concealed space will be sprinklered and yes I am proposing to install the sprinklers in the concealed space of the CPVC piping an as per the listing for CPVC pipe (i.e. piping max 6” above ceiling or insulation etc.) I’m also pointing to NFPA

RE: CPVC pipe passing thru ordinary interstitial space

Is the interstitial space combustible? If so, are you proposing to sprinkler the space with sprinklers that satisfy the listing limitations of the CPVC? Does the CPVC also supply the OH space below? [Steve Signature (3)] From: Sprinklerforum

Re: CPVC Seismic

rforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Seismic What city in northern CA is letting you get away with 2013 code? Rocci Cetani III, CET Senior Designer Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc. 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A Morgan Hi

RE: CPVC Seismic

8, 2017 8:46 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Seismic Using 2013, and the area of concern will be supported with 2-hole CPVC straps. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III 208-318-3057 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.fires

RE: CPVC Seismic

18, 2017 8:27 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Seismic I had to step out for a couple of hours, but I'm back. I'm assuming that I can use the rods less than 6" rule and omit lateral bracing, right? That would leave 4-ways and longitudinal only, correct?

RE: CPVC Seismic

...@firebyknight.com; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC Seismic What is your edition of NFPA 13. If you are in the 2016 edition don't automatically assume you can eliminate due to clearances less than 6". There are cases where you don't. Also note in older editions it

Re: CPVC Seismic

3057 > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 4:31 PM > To: b...@firebyknight.com; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: CPVC Seismic > > Really no different. I doubt y

RE: CPVC Seismic

forum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 4:31 PM To: b...@firebyknight.com; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Seismic Really no different. I doubt you will find longitudinal bracing listed for cpvc. You will

RE: CPVC Seismic

Afcon is the only company with seismic attachments for CPVC Rocci Cetani III, CET Senior Designer Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc. 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A Morgan Hill, CA 93037 P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111

RE: CPVC Seismic

Really no different. I doubt you will find longitudinal bracing listed for cpvc. You will have to put a short branch (same size as main) perpendicular to the main and brace that with a lateral brace to act as your longitudinal brace on the main. From: Sprinklerforum

RE: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move

8 [cid:image001.png@01D159E8.1A3A2D00] From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tom Wellen Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 3:39 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move Matt, I understand that

Re: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move

. > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Matthew J Willis <ma...@rapidfireinc.com >> <mailto:ma...@rapidfireinc.com>> >> Subject: RE: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move >> Date: July 10, 2017 at 8:51:57 AM PDT >> To

RE: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move

urston Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:11 AM To: Matthew J Willis <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: Re: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move Hello Matthew, There are several ways shown in the manual about putting in offsets, making a corner, and I think it even shows the sizes n

Re: CPVC: To Move, or Not To Move

Hello Matthew, There are several ways shown in the manual about putting in offsets, making a corner, and I think it even shows the sizes needed to use an offset loop. Monday, July 10, 2017, 9:31:43 AM, you wrote: Reading the Tech Update got me thinking. What do we do to address the need of

RE: CPVC earthquake bracing

Monday, June 19, 2017 9:27 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC earthquake bracing The primary answer has already been provided but thought it worth adding - unless it has changed recently, you’ll won’t find any longitudinal braces. You’ll be using lateral brac

RE: CPVC earthquake bracing

ave received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the documents. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:00 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Re: CPVC earthquake bracing

The primary answer has already been provided but thought it worth adding - unless it has changed recently, you’ll won’t find any longitudinal braces. You’ll be using lateral braces installed on branch lines or stub-outs within the minimal 24 inches away from the main so it will qualify as a

Re: CPVC earthquake bracing

It is required that you only use sway brace attachments that are listed for CPVC. Like listed solution for hangers and supports, the seismic fittings designed for use with plastic pipe have rolled edges and other features that prevent the damage you're describing. Check with your local

RE: CPVC Piping

people and the environment. Please consider the environment before printing this message. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Hinson, Ryan Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 4:46 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Piping I’d

RE: CPVC Piping

MD, MN, PA, & TX **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 1:18 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Piping I’ll throw in a twist – for t

RE: CPVC Piping

: Friday, June 09, 2017 12:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Piping I totally agree with you on all the points you made. The space is conditioned so the thermal expansion would be almost none existent. I could not find anything establishing an allowable limit

RE: CPVC Piping

rforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC Piping What is your expected temperature delta? Since CPVC is installed in heated spaces, is there going to be that significant of a change in temperature? Where is the water supply coming from? In a conditioned space, CPVC piping system with no flow is

RE: CPVC Piping

What is your expected temperature delta? Since CPVC is installed in heated spaces, is there going to be that significant of a change in temperature? Where is the water supply coming from? In a conditioned space, CPVC piping system with no flow is going to have negligible thermal expansion

RE: CPVC over fireplace

I think overthinking. If it is a fireplace less than 15 years old, it is likely a double wall insulated flue. Virtually no heat release in the space, wall or ceiling cavity even within inches of the flue. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of

RE: CPVC above a garage

*Subject:* Re: CPVC above a garage I don't believe you can. Otherwise, why would that exception need to be in there? The concealed space is always LH...well probably 99% of the time. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107

Re: CPVC above a garage

I don't believe you can. Otherwise, why would that exception need to be in there? The concealed space is always LH...well probably 99% of the time. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com

Re: Cpvc in combustible concealed spaces

Thank you. I'm seeing it that way as well. On Tuesday, September 13, 2016, Travis Mack, SET wrote: > You stated CPVC is not permitted in concealed combustible spaces requiring > sprinklers. So, by filling with non-combustible insulation, you now have a > concealed space

Re: Cpvc in combustible concealed spaces

You stated CPVC is not permitted in concealed combustible spaces requiring sprinklers. So, by filling with non-combustible insulation, you now have a concealed space that does not require sprinklers. Therefore, CVPC would be permitted. That is at least how I have always found it to be.

Re: CPVC Systems

Here's some info on Spears CPVC,    I don't where or if its in code book ,   but has to do with its Listing.  Tees on Run and Coupling have an equivalent foot. Hydraulic DesignHydraulic calculations for the sizing of systems incorporating Spears®FlameGuard® CPVC Fire Sprinkler Products must be

Re: CPVC Systems

Tyco's Blazemaster Installation Instruction & Technical Handbook (IH-1900 April 2016) has the following note on page 29: ** The need for friction loss for a tee run is only referenced in NFPA 13D under the General Pipe Sizing Method section. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Ron Greenman

Re: CPVC Systems

It's only in the simplified calc version in 13D. It's a simple start with static and subtract a value for each "thing" on the way back to source. It's a little more conservative than an actual calc as we know them but no fancy square roots and the like. The plumbing code had a similar

Re: CPVC hanging to post tension concrete rant

I have always thought that 5x plus 250 lbs requirement was for hanger assemblies that aren't listed, or include non-listed components. Otherwise, the listing of each component determines the max. listed weight. James On Friday, July 1, 2016, Greg McGahan wrote: > I have

RE: CPVC hanging to post tension concrete rant

Greg take a look at Tolco 22L with a Powers Acorn bolt.   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Greg McGahan Date: 07/01/2016 10:34 AM (GMT-10:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: CPVC

Re: CPVC hanging to post tension concrete rant

Greg, We've been using 2: hole straps with 1/4" powder driven studs for "Decades" here in South Florida. Check the hanger listing material for the CPVC pipe you are using. You have to hang this stuff every 6 feet and I don't think you have to add the 250# if you check the listing. Get in first

RE: CPVC hanging to post tension concrete rant

Greg, Can’t you use some like the Tolco 22L2 with a ¼” HDI-P? Typical on our post tension jobs we are using presets with rod and ring. Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection (760) 722-2722 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eggster Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? I found their spec sheet - thanks. Those will work for the 1" but unfortunately I need something in 1 1/4" as well. I see they require

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eggster Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? I found their spec sheet - thanks. Those will work for the 1" but unfortunately I need some

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

] On Behalf Of Richard Carr Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:35 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? FlameGuard GripLoc coupling but only in 3/4 and 1". It is a repair coupling, no glue needed. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

inklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eggster > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:47 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? > > I found their spec sheet - thanks. Those will work for the 1" but > unfortun

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

t; 6555 Grace Lane. >> Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 >> rc...@coxfire.com >> 904-781-8227 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] >> On Behalf Of Tony Eggster >>

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

6555 Grace Lane. >> Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 >> rc...@coxfire.com >> 904-781-8227 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: >> sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eggster >> Sent: Friday, Mar

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

FlameGuard GripLoc coupling but only in 3/4 and 1". It is a repair coupling, no glue needed. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

AquaTherm has a plastic material that is joined by heat fusion. It is FM approved only though (not UL). It is ready to go pretty quickly after install. Not the cheapest product out there. Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II   Sales Engineer Alliance Fire Protection 130 w 9th Ave. North Kansas

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Richard Carr > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:35 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? > > FlameGuard GripLoc coupling but only in 3/4 and 1". It is a repair > coupl

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eggster Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings? I

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

-605.593.5063 Cell-605.391.2733 Fax:-605.348.0108 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 12:00 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC pipe

Re: CPVC pipe in steel studs

esday, January 19, 2016 10:01 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs > You going to "fix" each in place? > R/ > Matt > Matthew J. Willis > Project Manager > Rapid Fire Protection Inc. > *NEW ADDRESS* > 1530 Samco Road

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

forum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 10:01 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs You going to "fix" each in place? R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Project Manager Rapid Fire Prote

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

Schumacher Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:16 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs I've used Erico ESGFP (Easy Snap Grommet for Fire Protection) in the past. Not sure how large you are trying to go, but they work for 1" CPVC TAYLOR SCHUMACHE

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

nklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:44 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs Would a side mount strap like Tolco Figure 24 qualify to protect the pipe?

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

Dewayne, We use stud grommets on each stud that our pipe crosses. Not sure where we get them but they are out there. If you don't find them easy shoot me an email off forum and I will ask the purchasing guys where they get them. Rod at Rapid r...@rapidfireinc.com -Original Message-

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

Had to deal with this recently. Copper B-line has a Grommet (BM1) I think Erico had one too. Copper B-line also has a Tape product for edges B-1999 ( if I remember correctly). Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection (760) 722-2722 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

forum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Van Kolken Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:08 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; 'SprinklerFORUM' Subject: RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs Had to deal with this recently. Copper B-line has a Grommet (B

Re: CPVC listing grey area

Agreed Travis Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC http://www.livingwaterfp.com 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Travis Mack, SET tm...@mfpdesign.com wrote: A general rule of thumb is you can run CPVC anywhere

Re: CPVC listing grey area

A general rule of thumb is you can run CPVC anywhere sprinklers are not required. If you want to run CPVC in an area where sprinklers are required, you have to use sprinklers that are specially listed to allow CPVC in those spaces. If you had an office building that was framed in steel, then

Re: CPVC listing grey area RETORT

All: Seems pretty black and white to me - CPVC can be installed in areas that do NOT require sprinkler protection in the attic/interstitial areas... Regards to All- Jerry _accentfire@aol.com_ (mailto:accentf...@aol.com) Jerry D. Watts, SFPE President Co-Founder ACCENT FIRE ENGINEERING

RE: CPVC listing grey area

You only mentioned the wood trusses. Will the sheathing/decking also be of fire-retardant treated wood? If not, then wouldn't you still have to sprinkler the space? Larry Keeping -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf

RE: CPVC listing grey area

I agree everyone. However, I have to play the role of devil's advocate a bit since some AHJ's go by the IWI code. Also known as the I want it code..lol -Original Message- From: Sean Lockyer Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org';

RE: CPVC listing grey area

[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Larry Keeping Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:11 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; 'sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org' Subject: RE: CPVC listing grey area You only mentioned the wood trusses. Will the sheathing/decking also

Re: CPVC Joint Failure

We send ours to the civic manufacturer. Contact your sales rep and ask them how to proceed. On Sunday, November 2, 2014, Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com wrote: Hello Sprinklerforum, Has anybody ever sent a failed CPVC glue joint off for failure analysis? If so where did you send it to?

Re: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas

I am designing a small CPVC system for TX right now. Keep in mind that TX does not have a consistent state wide code, so there may be some local jurisdictions that make their own stuff up. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com On Aug 21, 2013, at

RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas

- Work Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas I am designing a small CPVC system for TX right now. Keep in mind that TX does not have a consistent state wide code, so there may be some local jurisdictions

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-Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd - Work Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC sprinkler pipe use

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Thanks very much for input everyone. Brad ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org

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da...@mfp-inc.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Charles Thurston Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:54 PM To: Brad Casterline Subject: Re: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas Hello

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First of all, The State of Texas does not have any statewide requirements or restrictions outside of the NFPA Standards. If it's allowed or prohibited in the standard, then that's what the state recognizes. That being said, each governing entity, county, city, district, etc., in Texas is allowed

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To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas First of all, The State of Texas does not have any statewide requirements or restrictions outside of the NFPA Standards. If it's allowed or prohibited in the standard, then that's what the state recognizes. That being said

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and thanks David, Curtis (for the phone call too), and Ron. -Original Message- From: Brad Casterline [mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:06 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas Thanks very much

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, August 21, 2013 12:38 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas We've used it in residential wood-framed buildings near Beaumont. Steve L. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org

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We've used it in residential wood-framed buildings near Beaumont. Steve L. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:37 PM To:

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] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:38 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas We've used it in residential wood-framed buildings near Beaumont. Steve L. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun

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Brad, We have a client in Texas that does a lot of multi-family work and we have never heard that statement. Maybe they are confusing this with the A/F issue? Cliff Whitfield, SET President Fire Design, Inc. Ph: 719-488-3479   cl...@fire-design.com www.fire-design.com -Original

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@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC sprinkler pipe use in Texas Brad, We have a client in Texas that does a lot of multi-family work and we have never heard that statement. Maybe they are confusing this with the A/F issue? Cliff Whitfield, SET President Fire Design, Inc. Ph: 719-488-3479   cl

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