Steve
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Pure poetry! How's the land down under?
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Whoa, I BD'd the Forum.
Steve
Steve Leyton st...@protectiondesign.com wrote:
Steve
mphe...@aerofire.com mphe...@aerofire.com wrote:
Pure poetry! How's the land down under?
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Twice!
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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Whoa, I BD'd
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I would say the PLURAL on curtain (as well as the indication of the
overall
Look on the bright side here Steve- if the AHJ declares it Ord Haz II,
you could spec high temp, standard response heads, and the successful
contractor can finally use those old pendent heads that've been taking
up shop space.
Is EVERYTHING ever finally said about ANY sprinkler code issue?
one of these days: .008 GPM per sq.ft. per feet ceiling height over
entire STAGE-FORM area, (1) 1.5 hose valve w/30' hose and
extinguisher in cabinet centered on back wall, intermediate temp,
standard coverage, QR heads.
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seem to
be saying it is.
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of John Drucker
Sent: Sat 7/28/2012 4:11 AM
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Roland agree on the codes and fun part. However as tom beringer said
was for $13 million + costs.
Tony
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: July 28, 2012 12:37 PM
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I'm trying to let
I would say the PLURAL on curtain (as well as the indication of the
overall description) means a working stage with a big fire load
overhead and not a single curtain at the front. Wouldn't that also be
the more accurate LITERAL interpretation.
Having said that, I think we've said all
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John
Drucker
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Subject: RE: Stage/platform
For example.. An A-1 Theatre, IIA Construction, 1 story, 10,000
sf
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John
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Subject: Re: Stage/platform
Get rid of the curtain... LH. Done
John Drucker
: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:27 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage/platform
You kmow, that's really well put. Same idea with a meeting room that has
moving partitions.
Steve
rfletc...@aerofire.com rfletc...@aerofire.com wrote:
Do floor to ceiling curtains in an office
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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You kmow, that's really well put. Same idea with a meeting room that has
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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You kmow, that's really well put. Same idea with a meeting room that has
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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You kmow, that's really well put. Same idea with a meeting room that has
, July 26, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: Stage/platform
Again, I'm looking at an older version of 101, but it talks specifically to
the Platform by stating, A.3.149. The raised area within a building used
for the presentation of music, plays, or other entertainment and
A.3.3.149. Platforms also
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Remember that the IBC has different
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Drucker
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Get rid of the curtain... LH. Done
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I'm really trying to pull something tangible out of this discussion so
please bear with me. You stated, If you are in an IBC state it is a
stage. Why? A platform allows for performances, a platform allows for
lighting and sound. A platform DOESN'T
that is on a fixed
track?
Steve Leyton
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Again, I'm looking at an older version of 101, but it talks
specifically to the Platform by stating, A.3.149. The raised area
within a building used for the presentation of music, plays, or other
entertainment
John,
The distinction here seems to be the curtain, not the fire load
associated with papier mache and wooden props. Load it up with papier mache
trees, paper corn stalks, and a log cabin for the Tom Turkey Thanksgiving
Spectacular, and remove the curtain and it's a platform. If I expostulate
Now you are attempting to apply logic (like a ship heading toward the
reef, the outcome is preordained).
Roland
On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Steve Leyton wrote:
Back to Phelps' point: If I have a conference room of 3,000 sq. ft.
with a soffit down the middle for a demountable partition
it is not just the dif. in LH and ORD2 we are talking about: i have not seen
mention of the hose valves a legitimate stage would require, with the
associated increase in demand, per 13 or 14!, no?
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Subject: RE: RE: Stage/platform
it is not just the dif. in LH and ORD2 we are talking about: i have not
seen mention of the hose valves a legitimate stage would require, with
the associated increase in demand, per 13 or 14
Authority(s) Having Jurisdiction.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
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John
Based on recently conversations with a state plan reviewer about schools a
stage is a stage if performances occur on it.
Norm
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Steve Leyton
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Friends, Romans, Forumite and Drucker:
I have a plans reviewer with whom we are
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Based on recently conversations
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Already part of my argument; it's an elementary school, so I'm doubtful
that Pirates of Penzance is going
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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Already part of my argument; it's an elementary school, so I'm doubtful
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David Blackwell
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:11 AM
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Speaking from a State with the IBC adopted...
Per the (2006) IBC, those terms are defined in Section 410 partially extracted
below for your
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
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Already part of my argument
2006 IBC Commentary..
Platform
Platforms are raised areas that are used for public performances and
presentations that EXCEPT FOR LIGHTING DO NOT INCORPORATE ANY OVERHEAD
HANGING CURTAINS, DROPS, SCENERY OR STAGE EFFECTS.
OVERHEAD HANGING CURTAINS. It's a stage.
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2006 IBC Commentary..
Platform
Platforms are raised areas that are used
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Subject: RE: Stage/platform
For example.. An A-1 Theatre, IIA Construction, 1 story, 10,000
sf
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Get rid of the curtain... LH. Done
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Get rid of the curtain... LH. Done
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