Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

I've seriously considered taking this off the list because this whole thread has turned retarded. People involved: read on if you actually feel like finding out why, and what you can do about it. > Why not be a bit flexible, one of the tasks of an admin is to comfort > the users as much as he or

RE: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> -Original Message- > From: Bert Verhees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tell us which emailclients we should use, maybe we can learn > from you, > do not forget, a part of sqlite-users is Windows-user, and sqlite is > also a Windows-product. > For me, I use Windows and Linux, as it comes

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Gerhard Häring wrote: Lindsay Mathieson wrote: [...] there is no general agreement on this subject except for long std practice, which is to use reply-to "Long standing practice" in the mailing lists I'm subscribed to (among which are [EMAIL PROTECTED], several FreeBSD and Debian ones) is to

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Lindsay Mathieson wrote: [...] there is no general agreement on this subject except for long std practice, which is to use reply-to "Long standing practice" in the mailing lists I'm subscribed to (among which are [EMAIL PROTECTED], several FreeBSD and Debian ones) is to *not* do reply-to munging

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

D. Richard Hipp wrote: info wrote: When I hit List-reply (L) in Mutt, it tells me No List Found The mailing list provides all of the following information in the header: List-Id: SQLite Users Mailing List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscrib

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Bert Verhees wrote: -- Who wants a "Reply-To" header added to the SQLite mails. This means that regular emailclients (Outlook, Mutt, Mozilla, Pegasus, and more) automatically fill in the address of the mailinglist when you hit reply. I *D

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

0 Oct 2003 15:03:41 -0400 From: "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list > info wrote: > > When I hit List-reply (L) in M

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

info wrote: When I hit List-reply (L) in Mutt, it tells me No List Found The mailing list provides all of the following information in the header: List-Id: SQLite Users Mailing List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

When I hit List-reply (L) in Mutt, it tells me No List Found I don't know what you are doing, it is that sqlite really is a good product, but list-management is really stupid, it makes no sense at all, I cannot find an emailclient which handles this list smooth. Must I reconfigure my Linuxbox a

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 20 Oct 2003 at 17:52, Bert Verhees wrote: > Bernie Cosell wrote: > >As I said, it is a *LONGSTANDING* debate that has been discussed for > >*YEARS* (decades!) off and on, here and there. And as I said, the > >general way it works out is that newcomers to the Internet usually like > >"reply-

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Bernie Cosell wrote: Bernie Cosell wrote: Note two things: first the verbiage about the 'teleconferencing' stuff has been removed [NB: I don't believe this is just an oversight, but rather because of a general feeling that "reply-to-list" is not such a good thing, as has been beaten to de

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> Bernie Cosell wrote: > > >Note two things: first the verbiage about the 'teleconferencing' stuff > >has been removed [NB: I don't believe this is just an oversight, but > >rather because of a general feeling that "reply-to-list" is not such a > >good thing, as has been beaten to death here an

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Bernie Cosell wrote: On 18 Oct 2003 at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The mailing list software ALREADY works according to RFC 822. Go back, re-read the sentence you just posted and note that the emphasis belongs on the word "reply" not on "super-sedes" [sic]. You are r

Re: [sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 18 Oct 2003 at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [...] > > The mailing list software ALREADY works according to RFC 822. Go back, > > re-read the sentence you just posted and note that the emphasis belongs > > on the word "reply" not on "super-sedes" [sic]. > > You are right, I cited th

[sqlite] (Fwd) Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> > > > > Fixing an email-client is not always an option. > > Many emailclients respond to the Reply To header, like described in RFC822 > > > > "the presence of the "Reply-to" field SUPER-SEDES the sending of a reply to the > > person named > > in the "From" field." > > > > My opinion is,

RE: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

t: 17 October 2003 16:57 > To: Eric Schuyler > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing > list > > > On 17 Oct 2003, at 15:41, Eric Schuyler wrote: > > > I am having the same problem unsubscribing. > > My original subscript

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:07, Bert Verhees wrote: > >Fix your email client, or use one that isn't broken. Tell others to do > >the same. > > > Fixing an email-client is not always an option. > Many emailclients respond to the Reply To header, like described in RFC822 > > "the presence of the "Repl

RE: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Matt Can you take me off the list because it doesn't work for me either. Steve -Original Message- From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 16:57 To: Eric Schuyler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list On 17 Oct

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 17 Oct 2003, at 15:41, Eric Schuyler wrote: I am having the same problem unsubscribing. My original subscription and the unsubscribe request came from *exactly* the same e-mail address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). It looks like this feature isn't working correctly. Your unsubscribe request was receive

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Matt (and everyone), I am having the same problem unsubscribing. My original subscription and the unsubscribe request came from *exactly* the same e-mail address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). It looks like this feature isn't working correctly. Regards, Eric Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 16

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

unsubscribe On Oct 17, 2003, at 1:24 AM, Paul Smith wrote: At 19:43 16/10/2003, Bernie Cosell wrote: On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: > At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: > >I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than > >'reply to all'. ... > It really depends what you see the purpos

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003, at 20:31, Slugsie wrote: The unsub doesn't appear to be working. I've tried send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] three times so far, and I'm still getting messages through. Please check very carefully what email address you used to subscribe. If you are subscribed to the list via a

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Mrs. Brisby wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 04:24, Paul Smith wrote: At 19:43 16/10/2003, Bernie Cosell wrote: On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than 'reply to all'. ... It reall

RE: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

The unsub doesn't appear to be working. I've tried send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] three times so far, and I'm still getting messages through. Paul -Original Message- From: D. Richard Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2003 13:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [sqlite] T

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 04:24, Paul Smith wrote: > At 19:43 16/10/2003, Bernie Cosell wrote: > >On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: > > > > > At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: > > > >I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than > > > >'reply to all'. ... > > > > > It really depends what yo

RE: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

TECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 09:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list At 19:43 16/10/2003, Bernie Cosell wrote: >On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: > > > At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: > > >I prefer the 'reply to

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

At 19:43 16/10/2003, Bernie Cosell wrote: On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: > At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: > >I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than > >'reply to all'. ... > It really depends what you see the purpose of the list being. > > If replies only go back to the ori

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Randal L. Schwartz wrote: me via the list, before I realized what happened. And I've learned to hit "F" vs "R" in my mailer. Please don't punish me for being smart enough to operate my mailer simply to placate those who don't. This is a mailing list about *sqlite*. Not about dog breeding. H

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Why don't you suggest this to fastmail.fm?! Left to me I always use either Mutt or Pine! On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:45:41 +0200, "Pierre-Alain Joye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:53:02 -0500 > "Kartic Krishnamurthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I always wonder why people still

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Kartic Krishnamurthy wrote: > Could someone post a summary of email commands available to use on this > mailing list? For example, I like to turn off receiving emails when on > vacation and then turn it back on, retrieve messages 100-150 only, etc. Send an email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:54:46 -0500 "Kartic Krishnamurthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why don't you suggest this to fastmail.fm?! Left to me I always use > either Mutt or Pine! I was kidding, no offense here, sorry if... May I suggest to come back to nice sqlite relate questions? :) pierre --

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:53:02 -0500 "Kartic Krishnamurthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I always wonder why people still use weird MUA :-D >From the mail header: > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Unsubscribe: > List-Sub

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> "Darren" == Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> I can't count the number of times I accidentally sent a Darren> private response, and was waiting for the message to come back Darren> to me via the list, before I realized what happened. And I've learned to hit "F" vs "R" in my

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003 11:02:12 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > "Paul" == Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Paul> I'd tend to disagree... > > I disagree with your disagreement. > > The real problem is that you can't tell whether a reply-to > was added by the list so

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Could someone post a summary of email commands available to use on this mailing list? For example, I like to turn off receiving emails when on vacation and then turn it back on, retrieve messages 100-150 only, etc. Thanks! --Kartic On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:12:26 -0400, "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Darren Duncan wrote: > I would rather have to change the address manually for the few instances > when I want a private conversation than have to do it many times to > continue a list conversation. The LyX mail list works the way this new one does. Most of us end up sending

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:08, Paul Smith wrote: > At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: > >I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than > >'reply to all'. ... > It really depends what you see the purpose of the list being. > > If replies only go back to the original message sender, then there are >

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> "Paul" == Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> I'd tend to disagree... I disagree with your disagreement. The real problem is that you can't tell whether a reply-to was added by the list software, or the original person, without a tremendous amount of AI. So I don't know whether t

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

As an addendum, if you want to go the route of no reply-to munging, then I can still work with it. Some of the lists I am on (mostly being the ones with more technically adept users) already do the no-munging, and to work with these I already make regular use of my clients' Reply To All feature

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

At 5:04 PM +0100 10/16/03, Matt Sergeant wrote: >I don't like Reply-To munging personally (I've had two things happen with it - >accidentally posting private replies to the list, and cross-post stealing, where you >try to reply to a cross posted mail where one list does Reply-To munging, so it >

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

--- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP] > If I just do a 'reply', then it goes to the message > sender, rather than > back to the list. I have to do a 'reply-all' to get > it to go back to the > list. This is different from the Yahoo Groups > behaviour and may catch some > people out.

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:03:18 -0400 "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So now I'm thinking I should follow this advice and leave the > Reply-To: header as it is. Thoughts anyone? Many MUA uses safely the 'Reply to the mailing list' using the header: List-Post:

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

At 16:44 16/10/2003, you wrote: I prefer the 'reply to sender' default rather than 'reply to all'. As the list membership grows, the latter doesn't scale as well. At some point in their growth, most lists and newsgroups hit this barrier, and I think we're seeing that now in sqlite-users, where se

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

> > 9.8 Setting ``Reply-To: list at host''. This is not recommended... > > So now I'm thinking I should follow this advice and leave the > Reply-To: header as it is. Thoughts anyone? I think it is preferable to follow the advice because it is safer and reduces accidental submissions, and easy

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003 at 11:03, D. Richard Hipp wrote: > > 9.8 Setting ``Reply-To: list at host''. > > This is not recommended, since it leads to dissemination via the list of > > messages returned from bad auto-responders and MTAs. Also, it may lead to > > public replies to the list where personal repli

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003, at 16:03, D. Richard Hipp wrote: 9.8 Setting ``Reply-To: list at host''. This is not recommended, since it leads to dissemination via the list of messages returned from bad auto-responders and MTAs. Also, it may lead to public replies to the list where personal replies were inten

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

At 08:03 AM 16/10/2003, D. Richard Hipp wrote: This is not recommended, since it leads to dissemination via the list of messages returned from bad auto-responders and MTAs. Also, it may lead to public replies to the list where personal replies were intended. In addition, the original ``Reply-To:''

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, D. Richard Hipp wrote: > > If I just do a 'reply', then it goes to the message sender, rather than > > back to the list. I have to do a 'reply-all' to get it to go back to the > > list. This is different from the Yahoo Groups behaviour and may catch > > some people out. > So

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Paul Smith wrote: At 16:20 16/10/2003, Kevin Waterson wrote: Seems to work fine :) Hmm, almost. If I just do a 'reply', then it goes to the message sender, rather than back to the list. [...] Yes. Please leave it that way. Explicit reply-to rewriting would get us out-of-office & "virus" warning

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Paul Smith wrote: At 16:20 16/10/2003, Kevin Waterson wrote: Seems to work fine :) Hmm, almost. If I just do a 'reply', then it goes to the message sender, rather than back to the list. I have to do a 'reply-all' to get it to go back to the list. This is different from the Yahoo Groups behavi

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

Rich Shepard wrote: This new mailing list is a replacement for the yahoogroups list that has been running for the past three years. Thank you! The thanks should go to Matt Sergeant. He's the one who set up ezmlm and qmail for me. -- D. Richard Hipp -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 704.948.4565 ---

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

At 16:20 16/10/2003, Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have received this message, it means you are automatically > subscribed to the new SQLite mailing list. There should be instructions > at the bottom of this message tellin

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

This one time, at band camp, "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have received this message, it means you are automatically > subscribed to the new SQLite mailing list. There should be instructions > at the bottom of this message telling you how to unsubscribe if that > is your

Re: [sqlite] Testing the new SQLite mailing list

On 16 Oct 2003, at 13:12, D. Richard Hipp wrote: If you would prefer a digest rather than individual e-mails, then unsubscribe from this list and instead subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... By sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt.