On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:37:56 -0400, Juiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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For those of you have never even tried to use 0.7 but are complaining about
it:
1. You shouldn't argue until you at least try it.
2. It performs quite well IMO compared to 0.5
3. Almost every app from 0.5 works
0) be sure you have Java version 1.5 or 1.6 (1.4 will/should work too)
- type java -version in a console and watch the output
1) download these two files into a separate directory you've created forehand:
- http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r10260-snapshot.jar
-
From: Lars Juel Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org
To: support@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:54:16 +0200
On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Lars Juel Nielsen [EMAIL
Except that probably one of your friends knows someone on an other network, exchanges refs, and bang!, you've got a big worldwide network again.On 8/25/06,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Lars Juel Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org
To:
Except that probably one of your friends knows someone on an other network,
exchanges refs, and bang!, you've got a big worldwide network again.
Or one of them goes into an IRC chat and exchanges the information and bang
you're all busted.
No, only he is busted.On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Except that probably one of your friends knows someone on an other network,
exchanges refs, and bang!, you've got a big worldwide network again.Or one of them goes into an IRC chat and exchanges the information and
No, only he is busted.
How do you figure that? Doesn't he have connections that canthen be traced
and then the connections of those traced?
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Juiceman wrote:
With 10 connections, the data that could intercepted by one attacker
is roughly 10%. The problem is the attacker doesn't know how many
connections you have, so you could just be passing on data from any
number of connections you have.
It's currently trivialy easy to
It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets captured, that's possible.On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, only he is busted.How do you figure that? Doesn't he have connections that canthen be tracedand then the connections of those
It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
captured, that's possible.
If the person was busted their computer would be captured.
I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
(truecrypt or the like) partition or container and just hope
On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
captured, that's possible.
If the person was busted their computer would be captured.
I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
Doesn't have anything to do with 0.5 as far as I can tell. Except that in 0.5 you don't have to capture PCs to capture people on the network, in 0.7 you do, making it quite a bit more secure.
On 8/25/06, Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It
From: Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], support@freenetproject.org
To: support@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:55:31 -0400
On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It should not be
It has around 600 users judging from recent estimates, a fair amount of
content, and a lot of frost chatter. The stable branch was updated
fairly regularly; the purpose of having a separate stable network was so
we could test disruptive network changes. We may in future (after we are
out of 0.7
1. This is nonsense. A darknet doesn't have to be small. A WASTE darknet
has to be small; a Freenet 0.7 darknet can be large, because your
friends connect to their friends who connect to their friends; you can
get a lot of nodes in relatively few hops. There are no other darknet
programs out there
Thank you for the reply. I'm not looking to be argumentative, and acknowledge
Ian's request to take this to a different board, but must ask why the Freenet
group decide to direct new users to the new alpha 0.7 network instead of the
established 0.5 network before there was an open net?
On 8/24/06, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote:
> "As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
> information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
> than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
> that group might be 100
On 8/25/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote:
> >From: "Lars Juel Nielsen"
>
> >to take down a darknet you have to find participants and trick
> >them to letting you in and then you can start finding out which hosts
> >are part of it.
>
> Wait - Wait - You don't have to be tricked into letting
On 8/25/06, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote:
> True, but the opennet isn't illegal.
> I'm not in any way saying the darknet shouldn't be added...it's a
> great feature...but freenet has always been an opennet, and that
> should be done first. People who want a darknet are probably already
> using
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:37:56 -0400, Juiceman wrote:
>
> For those of you have never even tried to use 0.7 but are complaining about
> it:
> 1. You shouldn't argue until you at least try it.
> 2. It performs quite well IMO compared to 0.5
> 3. Almost every app from 0.5 works with 0.7 now (or
0) be sure you have Java version 1.5 or 1.6 (1.4 will/should work too)
- type "java -version" in a console and watch the output
1) download these two files into a separate directory you've created forehand:
- http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r10260-snapshot.jar
-
>From: "Lars Juel Nielsen"
>Reply-To: support at freenetproject.org
>To: support at freenetproject.org
>Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
>Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:54:16 +0200
>
>On 8/25/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote:
>> >From: "Lars Juel Nielsen"
>>
>> >to take down a
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>Except that probably one of your friends knows someone on an other network,
>exchanges refs, and bang!, you've got a big worldwide network again.
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Or one of them goes into an IRC chat and exchanges the information and bang
you're all busted.
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How do you figure that? Doesn't he have connections that canthen be traced
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>It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
>captured, that's possible.
If the person was busted their computer would be captured.
I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
(truecrypt or the like) partition or container and just hope
On 8/25/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote:
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> >It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
> >captured, that's possible.
>
> If the person was busted their computer would be captured.
>
> I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
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>To: support at freenetproject.org
>Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
>Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:55:31 -0400
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>On 8/25/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote:
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Thank you for the reply. I'm not looking to be argumentative, and acknowledge
Ian's request to take this to a different board, but must ask why the Freenet
group decide to direct new users to the new alpha 0.7 network instead of the
established 0.5 network before there was an open net?
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