So, everything seems to go wonderful until it comes the timeto
load the web-pages. :)
I have
been trying to load the Freedom Engine and it alwayssays
...
" The network is busy, please try again later.Retrying"
I'm not sure what yourproblem is... I can
asure you: your experiences
There once was anewFreenet
node,
to everyrequest it said 'hit the
road'
but thendata got inserted,
and it'srouting
allperverted,
the only thing it could do was
overload.
:-)
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"Been running this for 20 hours now,
and I have to say it rocks :)"
It rocks? stable?
It *rocks*, you say?
Please state the nature of your medical
condition.
Or, if N/A, please indicatefrom whichparallel
universe you cameand how youmanaged to postinto this
one.
"Basicly this network here is screwed
up!"
O, so you are using Freenet already? ;-)
Basically, the stable build is currently really shitty. I
suggest you install the unstable build. (6452 it is currently, I believe).
Also,keep in mind that even unstable is beta (duh), and it needs a few
i thought we had one !?
he/she/it's called Hops; the visual appearance has been attached as an
image as described by innocent
bystanding witnesses
Well, shite!
What the? Not much advertising must have gone into that, because I had no
idea there already was a bunny.
:-(
I think mine is more
I also remember an old request from Toad, so while I was in the drawing
mood...
www.freenethelp.org/toad
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If the exploit is that low level, I don't really see
how it could work,except perhaps by exploiting a remote execution
hole in the hostoperating system (or JVM).
Hmm..well, that may be a bit too much of
'brushing off'. Whether or not is is a fault in Freenet itself or in the JVM/OS,
IMHO we need to make freenet work before we make
it workfast. And the timescale on making it work may be a timescale
of years.
Ah, toad...you eternal optimist, you! ;-)
Lets say decennia, to be on the safe
side!!
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, 24MB seems rather
puny.
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Subject: new stable
Tried it out, and thusfar...it's
crap.
Maybe (hope so) this is temporary, but it
definately
Well, I'm already maintaining the Changelog, and
one can see the latest (stable) build there...more or less. But, aside from one
time (which was a pleasant surprise, but not enough to make my point unvalid),
it's always me who has to do it, even with cvs, everybody (with access) could do
"You know that your node is
transmitting bad stuff ..."
No, you don't. That's just the point, and that's why I
find your whole argumentation rather doubtful. Well, that and
others:
1)You have not given a legal decision or precedent ,
whereby an ISP as a corporation gets protection as a
That you don't see any activelinks and you get many
'couldn't connect' errors is not surprising, on a newbie node. It just needs
more time to get integrated into the network, probably.
But, there have been reports of problems with OSX
and JVM 1.4.2. For all this, you can find more info on
I have yet to be convinced that
the law requires a layer of meaningless snake oil.
Then it's up to you that, a) it's not
snake oil and/or b) that it's not meaningless.
As I've explained before, I think it's
not a matter of if, but of when Mr. Riaa will begin with the same tactics as
they
The weakness is insoluble. Unless nodes run 24x7 for LONG periods,
and encrypt the entire store with an ephemeral key, thus wiping
it on startup.
It is not 'insoluble' in the sense of what I just said; that you have to
make it so hard, they won't see any benefit in wasting effort in it.
Ermm.. Those kind of questions (and their answers)
are really interesting and should be kept in a sort of
knowledge-database.
Ofcourse, I mean the wiki at www.freenethelp.org.
Once again, I urge anyone (and yes, *this*
non-coders can do too!) to copy/paste these questions/answers on the
Joy.
It's not recommended to use JVM 1.4.2, for
starters, as can be read on www.freenethelp.org.
It may have nothing to do with your problem, but I
would recommend that you revert to 1.4.1, or that you try out the 1.5 beta in
any case. With both versions, a lot less problems have been
Maybe somebody should update the sourceforge project site:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=978package_id=973
I took 0.5.2.1-Release.
Indeed!
I noticed before that, there, it still shows an obsolete version. I've
mentionned this before too, but, ah, regulars know how it
We update the software frequently, but we only make full releases every
so often. In fact the last one was over a year ago. This is because we
want the new release to be pretty good, considering the level of press
attention likely.
Well, it might be useful to update it anyway, especially now
Quite interesting, albeit not fully informative (what is codefrog ?
It's like a code monkey... but Toad isn't a monkey ...
Indeed, as can readily be seen on www.freenethelp.org:14741/toad : no
monkey.
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Yes, wget is terrible!
Thaks u very much. Puf is fantastic!
bye
Luckily, *you* will escape a lecture on proper spelling from Oskar! ;-)
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Yes, well...welcom to the club. It's really not that much of a surprise.
What can I say?
I suggest you scrutinise www.freenethelp.org and see if you can find any
useful hints there.
Your situation is not unique, and there are some possible reasons mentionned
on the wiki, but it still could be
As some of us have already discussed on IIP, the question becomes urgent
what to do for the near future. As the donationpage shows, we are in need
for some extra financial input, and thus we should contemplate on the how to
do this best.
Now, I've said before that we're long overdue for the 0.6,
Then why are you responding, and rudely even? I don't think English is his
first language.. sound familiar?
Indeed, but you are mistaken in the perceived familiarity. It had/has
NOTHING to do with his english, or spelling, or grammar. I just don't
understand shite what he was trying to say, since
You've missed the point completely. The error message was Could not find
the main class. A java programmer knows this to be not an error with the
virtual machine, but more of a classpath issue (the VM cannot find the
class; it never actually *ran* anything).
Recommending that the user upgrade
1. We should use a single seednode, do an announcement through it to get
a set of initial connections, and then drop it.
+
Even if currently there is no script to download the seednodes
and block all the IP:port's, if we ever make any progress we have to
assume that THERE WILL BE.
And
Dear Sir or Madam,
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Thank you!
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Well, that would depend on whome you ask, it seems (see discussion on devl).
*I* would suggest 1.5.
But actually, there are no real big problems with 1.4.1, though there WERE
problems reported with the 1.4.2 on OSX, BSD and Linux.
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"given win98se and being forced to run with only
64mb ram on a p233what would you recommend?"
Not running a node?
Well, I think the 1.5 jmv is less heavy on HD and
RAM then the 1.4.2. So, if you really want to go through with it, you either
keep the 1.4.1 or go to the 1.5 JVM, that's my
I've been getting TFE fine, but I haven't been able to load FIND for almost
a
week. The lists are pretty silent lately, as well. Conspiracy theory,
anyone?
No, the explanation is simply this, that many active (meaning formerly
inserting/posting) Freenetters have gone over to i2p. Not only do
As I said on IRC, a collegue of mine has made an article (well, actually
more of a reference/pointer/short description) to freenet, and refered to
the sourceforge page.
Maybe that seems like an obvious mistake, but in any case: why doesn't
anyone who can, update the f- page, there? It's still
1. Newsbyte: keep stirring things up. I find it helpful.
I am of the same opinion, but I could be biased. ;-)
2. With respect I don't think you can both a) claim to be installing like a
novice user and b) insist on keeping your existing Java install to be used
and
recognised.
I am not. That's
OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it.
It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go
offline
every 12 hours. (is that a problem?)
A Freenet site takes now from 5 to 20 minutes to load, if it loads at all.
After much trying, I downloaded Frost, but the
So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet
gateways, they were very slow.
Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a
newbie. If you scroll to my earlier posts on devl or support, you will
notice I've made EXACTLY the point that for noobs
Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very
little of my bandwidth.
It's rather good. It's way more then my average Open connections, and it
indicates that it's not really a firewall/NAT problem.
BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've
I wasn't aware that you were ever in the project to be kicked out of
it (whatever being in the project means). Very few people have
@freenetproject.org email addresses, you got one because you asked for
it and because you said it would help you raise donations for the
project.
That was one
I was just going to say, that flamewars on project support
mailing-lists are not professional and should better be done by
private mail.
Maybe. But that's difficult to do if you are asked to respond but told your
email is going directly going to the bin.
Besides, when talking about
Saying freenet sucks, it's gotten worse, it'll never get better, and
implying that this is because of the people building it, is not helpful.
Saying and implying it to newbies when we are particularly vulnerable
due to our slow initial performance due to freenet taking a while to
learn where stuff
I'm being fed up to be called a troll and being 'non-helpful' and all that,
after what I've done for the project, because I basically say Freenet still
sucks. Well, this is the truth, and I have completed a test that also shows
this, so there can't be any discussion about it anymore. When I say
There can be more than one reason.
Yes, but reasons 'afterwards' are always easily found (and even believed by
themselves). It's called 'to rationalise'. The reason why it actually got
deleted, is the reason first given in the email, which was based on an
emotional tit-for-tat reaction, and is
I've noticed the Freenethelp.org wiki site is VERY slow and would like
to help improve it's speed. Can you put me in touch with who is
responsible for maintaining the site? I work for an ISP, as well as
willing to donate hardware or money to help the site. I feel the
freenethelp.org site is
It shouldn't slow your browsing down much if correctly configured i.e.
if the output limit is appropriate for your connection and what else you
want to run on it. It may slow down your gaming and other CPU/memory heavy
tasks, but that's another matter.
Luckily, I play my games on another puter.
I think those were all good comments (though not mentionned for the first
time ;-). Some of them I have proposed years ago, but...well...it somehow
never amounts to anything. The problem with all these proposals is, that
someone actually has to implement it. That seldom happens. I dunno
Don't worry, Sonax: any moment now, Toad or Ian will respond with a
thoughtful post!
;-)
O yeah, and a happy new year to you and everybody else!
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Are you saying that hosts are required to support MTUs of at least 576
bytes? People have said that some dialup connections use 256 byte MTUs...
Since it says HOSTS MUST NOT SEND DATAGRAMS LARGER THAN 576 OCTETS
there is no inherent contradiction when it is *smaller* then 576, me thinks?
A few days ago I heard of a new filesharing systems.
What was the new filesharing system you heard about?
-todd
LOL!!
Man, that was funny! ;-)
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Right.
We had a lot more of those problems in the past, and I clearly remember
that I changed the (paypal)page a bit (making it clearer) a year ago, as
to avoid this. It helped, but apparently some folks still klick on it by
mistake, though now you really have to be with your mind elsewhere
Searched on www.freenethelp.org , yet?
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Popping in for a moment again. :-)
So, toad, anything workable one can try out (about the public non-darknet
one) yet? Opennet, is it? ;-)
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Popping in for a moment again. :-)
So, toad, anything workable one can try out (about the public non-darknet
one) yet? Opennet, is it? ;-)
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