[freenet-support] Bandwidth sharing

[Paul Taylor]

How much bandwidth do I have to share for freenet? I want my stuff to stop
what I'm sharing.

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[freenet-support] New to Freenet. Need help

[Paul Kruger]

I am new to Freenet.  Installed okay and have download set up but after 
downloading a few files I cannot find them.


It says they are downloaded to temporary folder but I look in /temp and 
it has a ton of files, none of which seem to be the files I downloaded.


There seems to be no button in Freenet to click to view downloaded files 
and nothing to tell me where to find them.


I also not a few other options that never seem to work.  For instance 
changing the priority for downloads does not function. I select a higher 
priority and click to set but it just changes back to low every time.


The main issue for me is where are the files I just downloaded located?

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] fred and ipv6

[Paul Landers]

Well, interestingly enough after tearing down the tunnel, waiting 24
hours and rebuilding the tunnel Fred starts up just fine with ipv6.
There's even a connection attempt to another ipv6 node.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Paul Landers  wrote:
> Does anyone have any success running fred ipv4 + ipv6 (I'm assuming
> there are some ipv6 nodes out there)?  I have a functioning ipv4 node
> on Debian, but if I then enable ipv6 on my machine (a freenet6 tunnel)
> and restart fred my node never starts.  wrapper.log simply says:
>
> ...
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:13:02 | Using the NativeThread
> implementation (base nice level is 13)
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:13:47 | Initializing Node using
> Freenet Build #1253 rbuild01253 and freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 with
> Sun Microsystems Inc. JVM version 1.6.0_20 running on i386 Linux
> 2.6.32-trunk-686
>
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:13:57 | Starting FProxy on
> 127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:14:01 | INFO: Native CPUID library
> 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from
> resource
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:14:01 |
> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/06/18 21:14:01 | INFO: Optimized native
> BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-athlon.so' loaded from
> resource
> ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:41 | Startup failed: Timed out
> waiting for signal from JVM.
> ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:41 | JVM did not exit on request,
> terminated
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | JVM exited in response to
> signal SIGKILL (9).
> ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | Unable to start a JVM
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | <-- Wrapper Stopped
>
> Anyone with some tips on using ipv6 and fred?
>
> Thanks!
>
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[freenet-support] fred and ipv6

[Paul Landers]

Does anyone have any success running fred ipv4 + ipv6 (I'm assuming
there are some ipv6 nodes out there)?  I have a functioning ipv4 node
on Debian, but if I then enable ipv6 on my machine (a freenet6 tunnel)
and restart fred my node never starts.  wrapper.log simply says:

...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:13:02 | Using the NativeThread
implementation (base nice level is 13)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:13:47 | Initializing Node using
Freenet Build #1253 rbuild01253 and freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 with
Sun Microsystems Inc. JVM version 1.6.0_20 running on i386 Linux
2.6.32-trunk-686

INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:13:57 | Starting FProxy on
127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:14:01 | INFO: Native CPUID library
'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from
resource
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:14:01 |
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/06/18 21:14:01 | INFO: Optimized native
BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-athlon.so' loaded from
resource
ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:41 | Startup failed: Timed out
waiting for signal from JVM.
ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:41 | JVM did not exit on request,
terminated
STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | JVM exited in response to
signal SIGKILL (9).
ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | Unable to start a JVM
STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/06/18 21:21:42 | <-- Wrapper Stopped

Anyone with some tips on using ipv6 and fred?

Thanks!
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet will not launch

[Paul Landers]

Oh yeah!  I had seen this issue on my other Squeeze box preventing
Azureus/Vuze from binding, but it never even occurred to me this might
be the Freenet issue on my second Squeeze box!  Thank you!

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:
> See 
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freenet/index.php?title=Installing_on_POSIX
> for fix and links to the Debian bug reports.
>
> Evan Daniel
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Paul Landers  
> wrote:
>> I moved my node to a new Debian Squeeze machine, and now it will not
>> launch.  When I invoke "./run.sh start" these are the entries in
>> wrapper.log:
>>
>> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
>> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | Launching a JVM...
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | WrapperManager: Initializing...
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager: WARNING -
>> The Wrapper jar file currently in us
>> e is version "3.3.1"
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
>> while the version of the Wrapper whi
>> ch launched this JVM is
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:           "3.2.3".
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
>> The Wrapper may appear to work corre
>> ctly but some features may
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
>> not function correctly.  This config
>> uration has not been tested
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
>> and is not supported.
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
>> Unexpected exception opening backend soc
>> ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
>> Unexpected exception opening backend soc
>> ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
>> Unexpected exception opening backend soc
>> u...@debianp2pserver:~/freenet_temp/freenet$ tail wrapper.log
>> ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
>> http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/integrate.html
>> ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
>> 
>> ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
>> INFO   | jvm 5    | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | WrapperManager Error:
>> Unexpected exception opening backend socket: java.net.SocketException:
>> Invalid argument
>> ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM did not exit on request,
>> terminated
>> INFO   | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited on its own while
>> waiting to kill the application.
>> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited in response to
>> signal SIGKILL (9).
>> FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | There were 5 failed launches
>> in a row, each lasting less than 300 seconds.  Giving up.
>> FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 |   There may be a
>> configuration problem: please check the logs.
>> STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | <-- Wrapper Stopped
>>
>>
>> I then downloaded and installed a fresh node in a new directory, but
>> still have the same problem.
>>
>> Thank you!
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[freenet-support] freenet will not launch

[Paul Landers]

I moved my node to a new Debian Squeeze machine, and now it will not
launch.  When I invoke "./run.sh start" these are the entries in
wrapper.log:

STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | Launching a JVM...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | WrapperManager: Initializing...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager: WARNING -
The Wrapper jar file currently in us
e is version "3.3.1"
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
while the version of the Wrapper whi
ch launched this JVM is
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:   "3.2.3".
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
The Wrapper may appear to work corre
ctly but some features may
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
not function correctly.  This config
uration has not been tested
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
and is not supported.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
Unexpected exception opening backend soc
ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
Unexpected exception opening backend soc
ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
.
.
.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
Unexpected exception opening backend soc
u...@debianp2pserver:~/freenet_temp/freenet$ tail wrapper.log
ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/integrate.html
ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |

ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
INFO   | jvm 5| 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | WrapperManager Error:
Unexpected exception opening backend socket: java.net.SocketException:
Invalid argument
ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM did not exit on request,
terminated
INFO   | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited on its own while
waiting to kill the application.
STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited in response to
signal SIGKILL (9).
FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | There were 5 failed launches
in a row, each lasting less than 300 seconds.  Giving up.
FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 |   There may be a
configuration problem: please check the logs.
STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | <-- Wrapper Stopped


I then downloaded and installed a fresh node in a new directory, but
still have the same problem.

Thank you!
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[freenet-support] installation

[PAUL]

Hi I've downloaded freenet and its in my program folder but it didn't start
or install icons on the desktop or into the system tray.

I cannot get it to start and cannot find an uninstall command to attempt a
reinstall any suggestions please

Ps I'm not a computer wiz so may have missed something obvious

Thanks 

 

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[freenet-support] logged errors

[Paul Landers]

My node loses all opennet connections every few hours.  A restart fixes it
but it reoccurs.  I'm not sure if this is related, but my freenet-latest.log
contains very many of these 2 entries:

Removing ack request twice? Null on 31201 from x.x.x.x

ERROR): Invalid phase 0 for anonymous-initiator (we are the initiator) from
x.x.x.x

Any help would be appreciated.
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[freenet-support] "Probably a bug" - peer forcibly disconnected

[Paul Bransford]

Freenet is reporting the following on my status page:


Probably a bug: please report: 1 peers forcibly disconnected due to not
acknowledging packets.

1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets
even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code.
Please report it to us at the bug tracker at
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to the support mailing list
supp...@freenetproject.org. Please include this message and what version
of the node you are running. The affected peers (you may not want to
include this in your bug report if they are darknet peers) are:

* 201.227.63.21:46522
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[freenet-support] Install problem and can't uninstall

[Paul Germain]

Hi,

I'm french, sorry for my bad english!

OS: Windows XP Pro SP2
Java: Java SE Development Kit 6 Update 4
CPU: Core2
Ram: 3Gb
Windows Update: Ok

I have install Freenet 0.7 and launch install.exe.
Don't choise shortuct for start menu.
Choise desktop shorcut.

Install is succefull but i don't have my desktop shorcut!
I have try to launch somes .exe in freenetdirectory/bin/ but no succes.
When i want unsinstall software i have a bug: "'javaw' is not a internal 
command...".
Software is already in add/delete software, and when i want reinstall 
appli, software say me he's already install/

What's procedure for uninstall properly this software for reinstall after?!

Thanks,

Paul
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[freenet-support] Install problem and can't uninstall

[Paul Germain]

Hi,

I'm french, sorry for my bad english!

OS: Windows XP Pro SP2
Java: Java SE Development Kit 6 Update 4
CPU: Core2
Ram: 3Gb
Windows Update: Ok

I have install Freenet 0.7 and launch install.exe.
Don't choise shortuct for start menu.
Choise desktop shorcut.

Install is succefull but i don't have my desktop shorcut!
I have try to launch somes .exe in freenetdirectory/bin/ but no succes.
When i want unsinstall software i have a bug: "'javaw' is not a internal 
command...".
Software is already in add/delete software, and when i want reinstall 
appli, software say me he's already install/

What's procedure for uninstall properly this software for reinstall after?!

Thanks,

Paul

[freenet-support] too old and can't update

[Paul Forgey]

my node is running build 933 and is complaining it is too old, but it 
won't update because the .sha1 file for build 10003 is missing.


./update.sh: line 3: cd: @path@: No such file or directory
Updating freenet
Fetching update.sh
Downloaded update.sh
Your update.sh is up to date
Fetching freenet-stable-latest.jar
java.io.FileNotFoundException: 
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r10003-snapshot.jar.sha1

Downloaded freenet-stable-latest.jar
Fetching freenet-ext.jar
Downloaded freenet-ext.jar
Your node is up to date

This has been the situation all day and well into tonight.  It seems 
freente-r10003-snapshop.jar doesn't have it's .sha1 file and hasn't for 
long enough that it probably isn't a mirror sync issue that will fix itself.


I see there is a build 10014 which does have it's .sha1 file, but I 
don't know why the update process isn't trying that one.




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[freenet-support] too old and can't update

[Paul Forgey]

my node is running build 933 and is complaining it is too old, but it 
won't update because the .sha1 file for build 10003 is missing.

./update.sh: line 3: cd: @path@: No such file or directory
Updating freenet
Fetching update.sh
Downloaded update.sh
Your update.sh is up to date
Fetching freenet-stable-latest.jar
java.io.FileNotFoundException: 
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r10003-snapshot.jar.sha1
Downloaded freenet-stable-latest.jar
Fetching freenet-ext.jar
Downloaded freenet-ext.jar
Your node is up to date

This has been the situation all day and well into tonight.  It seems 
freente-r10003-snapshop.jar doesn't have it's .sha1 file and hasn't for 
long enough that it probably isn't a mirror sync issue that will fix itself.

I see there is a build 10014 which does have it's .sha1 file, but I 
don't know why the update process isn't trying that one.

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Re: [freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

No, port number stayed the same.  It did, however, forget my public  
IP address.


On Jun 13, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:


I've heard of it happening occasionally... I don't see how this can
happen by the node file being corrupted, so maybe the freenet.ini...

Did your port number change?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:28:04PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:

I've since found my node's identity was lost and regenerated (with no
alerts about it) during one of the updates.  I've since made a backup
copy of my node's identity file to avoid having to rebuild my darknet
all over again.

Although it's anecdotal, I've heard others on #freenet-refs complain
about this happening sometimes.

On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:


Have you tried more recent builds?

Did it corrupt your peers file? (Do the nodes in your peers file no
longer have any IP addresses?)

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:09:49PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:

After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I
have
35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a  
known

problem in this build?

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[freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

No, port number stayed the same.  It did, however, forget my public  
IP address.

On Jun 13, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> I've heard of it happening occasionally... I don't see how this can
> happen by the node file being corrupted, so maybe the freenet.ini...
>
> Did your port number change?
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:28:04PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:
>> I've since found my node's identity was lost and regenerated (with no
>> alerts about it) during one of the updates.  I've since made a backup
>> copy of my node's identity file to avoid having to rebuild my darknet
>> all over again.
>>
>> Although it's anecdotal, I've heard others on #freenet-refs complain
>> about this happening sometimes.
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried more recent builds?
>>>
>>> Did it corrupt your peers file? (Do the nodes in your peers file no
>>> longer have any IP addresses?)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:09:49PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:
>>>> After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I
>>>> have
>>>> 35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a  
>>>> known
>>>> problem in this build?
>>> -- 
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>>> ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

I've since found my node's identity was lost and regenerated (with no  
alerts about it) during one of the updates.  I've since made a backup  
copy of my node's identity file to avoid having to rebuild my darknet  
all over again.


Although it's anecdotal, I've heard others on #freenet-refs complain  
about this happening sometimes.


On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:


Have you tried more recent builds?

Did it corrupt your peers file? (Do the nodes in your peers file no
longer have any IP addresses?)

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:09:49PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:
After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I  
have

35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a known
problem in this build?

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[freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

I've since found my node's identity was lost and regenerated (with no  
alerts about it) during one of the updates.  I've since made a backup  
copy of my node's identity file to avoid having to rebuild my darknet  
all over again.

Although it's anecdotal, I've heard others on #freenet-refs complain  
about this happening sometimes.

On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Have you tried more recent builds?
>
> Did it corrupt your peers file? (Do the nodes in your peers file no
> longer have any IP addresses?)
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:09:49PM -0700, Paul Forgey wrote:
>> After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I  
>> have
>> 35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a known
>> problem in this build?
> -- 
> Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
> Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
> ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.

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[freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I have 
35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a known 
problem in this build?


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[freenet-support] build #799 won't connect to any peers

[Paul Forgey]

After upgrading to 0.7 build 799 none of my peers will connect.  I have 
35 peers with 15 of them being historically stable.  Is there a known 
problem in this build?
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[freenet-support] Freenet Not Listening For Connections After Starting

[Paul M.]

  A few days ago freenet stopped working on my FC1 machine. From the
looks of a netstat it never starts listening for connections on
FNP,FCP, or the distro port. This remains true even after being let
"run" for a little over a day.
  I've tried a partial (kept store and config file) and full reinstall
of freenet without any luck. I would revert to an older version if I
had a copy of a recent one. In all attempts I ran the update script
before trying.
I've attached the output of running it at debug and the config file.
There are no relevant system logs.
-Paul

OS
Linux  2.4.22-1.2149.nptlsmp #1 SMP Wed Jan 7 12:51:51 EST 2004 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Distro
Fedora Core 1

Hardware
Dual P3 800MHz w/ 512MB System RAM

$java -version
java version "1.4.2_08"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_08-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_08-b03, mixed mode)
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[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet

[Paul]

Can we get this Mac OS X native jbigi library incorporated in to 
future Freenet releases?


I've been running Freenet on Mac OS X for about two years now. It 
usually runs for 2 to 7 days before it grinds to a halt with either 
an out of memory error or some kind of error in the "abstractor loop".


Having better performance while Freenet is up would be great. Fixing 
the above errors would also be nice.


Thanks,
Paul


Squished Squirrel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



 Matthew Toseland  ...> writes:

 >
 > Cool. What code changes?
 >

 I added a couple case statements to NativeBigInteger.java, similar to those
 suggested by Josh Watzman earlier this month. I think his diff also added
 support for loading an external jbigi library without having to rebuild the
 freenet-ext.jar file. My changes only work if the library is put 
into the jar.

 I'm *assuming* that his code changes result in a requested library name
 of "libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib". I don't know for sure, since I found his diff
 after I had already made my changes.

 I used the jbigi source from i2p since the build scripts for it had already
 been modified to support OSX. The resulting file was libjbigi.jnilib, which
 just needed to be renamed to "libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib" and inserted into
 freenet-ext.jar.

 The i2p_0_6_0_6 source builds the jbigi library static, so I'm hoping that
 it will run fine on a Mac that doesn't have gmp installed. Someone else
 said they had managed to build the library on the Mac, but their library was
 dynamic and would only run on a Mac with gmp already installed (or
 something to that effect.)

 After the osx jbigi library is inserted in to the freenet-ext.jar, I dropped
 that into the lib folder of the current stable source and built the project
 using ant.

 I won't discuss how many wrong turns I made on the way

 And the result on starting freenet...

 INFO: Non-optimized native BigInteger library
 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib' loaded from resource



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[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet

[Paul]

Can we get this Mac OS X native jbigi library incorporated in to 
future Freenet releases?

I've been running Freenet on Mac OS X for about two years now. It 
usually runs for 2 to 7 days before it grinds to a halt with either 
an out of memory error or some kind of error in the "abstractor loop".

Having better performance while Freenet is up would be great. Fixing 
the above errors would also be nice.

Thanks,
Paul


Squished Squirrel  writes:

>
>  Matthew Toseland  ...> writes:
>
>  >
>  > Cool. What code changes?
>  >
>
>  I added a couple case statements to NativeBigInteger.java, similar to those
>  suggested by Josh Watzman earlier this month. I think his diff also added
>  support for loading an external jbigi library without having to rebuild the
>  freenet-ext.jar file. My changes only work if the library is put 
>into the jar.
>  I'm *assuming* that his code changes result in a requested library name
>  of "libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib". I don't know for sure, since I found his diff
>  after I had already made my changes.
>
>  I used the jbigi source from i2p since the build scripts for it had already
>  been modified to support OSX. The resulting file was libjbigi.jnilib, which
>  just needed to be renamed to "libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib" and inserted into
>  freenet-ext.jar.
>
>  The i2p_0_6_0_6 source builds the jbigi library static, so I'm hoping that
>  it will run fine on a Mac that doesn't have gmp installed. Someone else
>  said they had managed to build the library on the Mac, but their library was
>  dynamic and would only run on a Mac with gmp already installed (or
>  something to that effect.)
>
>  After the osx jbigi library is inserted in to the freenet-ext.jar, I dropped
>  that into the lib folder of the current stable source and built the project
>  using ant.
>
>  I won't discuss how many wrong turns I made on the way
>
>  And the result on starting freenet...
>
>  INFO: Non-optimized native BigInteger library
>  'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-none.jnilib' loaded from resource
>
>

Re: [freenet-support] new ip (was can't listen on local interfaces..)

[Paul Forgey]

What I am really doing is moving an existing, somewhat established node 
from one machine to another more capable one.  I copied over the store 
and all node data with it.

However, I now noticing an inability to retrieve data that isn't already 
in my store (or so it seems).

Are other nodes being suspicious because my node info is the same but 
the ip is different?  If this is an issue, can I continue on with my 
established store but re-do my node info?  And what files do I need to 
delete for that to happen?

Thanks..
Paul Forgey wrote:
Paul Forgey wrote:
I have my ipAddress= set to my firewall's ip address, since it needs 
to port forward the service into my internal machine, which does not 
have a real IP.

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Re: [freenet-support] can't listen on local interfaces and advertise public ip

[Paul Forgey]

Paul Forgey wrote:
I have my ipAddress= set to my firewall's ip address, since it needs to 
port forward the service into my internal machine, which does not have a 
real IP.
..never mind.  Sorry -- combination of bad firewall configuration and 
not grep'ing the output of netstat properly.

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[freenet-support] can't listen on local interfaces and advertise public ip

[Paul Forgey]

I have my ipAddress= set to my firewall's ip address, since it needs to 
port forward the service into my internal machine, which does not have a 
real IP.

In the freenet.log, I see the expected:
Feb 4, 2005 9:31:05 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): ipAddress set, 
but got an exception, listening on all interfaces for FNP traffic

But according to netstat, it isn't listening at all.
This is the current snapshot, running on linux 2.4.28, sun jre 1.4.2.07.
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[freenet-support] Request failed gracefully

[Paul Landers]

When requesting a large split-file via fproxy, it usually eventually 
fails with the following:

Request failed gracefully: Next failed: Could only fetch 25 of 26 
blocks in segment 1 of 1: 14 failed, total available 39

However, if I manually re-request the URI enough times, it will 
eventually download completely.  I take all defaults when requesting:

0   Initial Hops to Live
4   Number of Retries for a Block that Failed
5   Increment HTL on retry by this amount
Force the Browser to Save the File
Don't Look for Blocks in Local Data Store
Download Segments in Random Order
30  Number of Simultaneous Downloads
Run Anonymity Filter on Download Completion (recommended)
Make the Anonymity Filter Really Paranoid
100 % of Missing Data Blocks to Insert (Healing)
18  Hops-to-Live for the Healing Blocks
Write directly to disk rather than sending to browser
Is there a combination of settings for the request (or another method) 
to instruct fproxy to not give up until the file actually completes?

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Re: [freenet-support] "cannot find the main class" error

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 20 Dec 2004 at 9:22, Dave wrote:

> I assumed that 8.3 name creation was part of the VFAT spec.  Why would you 
> want to turn it off?  (This is a genuine question, not a troll.  I'm 
> wondering what the benefits might be)
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Konstantin Svist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 1:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [freenet-support] "cannot find the main class" error
> 
> 
> I've found my problem. When installing JRE, it installed to C:\Program
> Files\Java\... but I had the 8.3 name creation turned off on my system. When
> I recreated the 8.3 name, everything started working.
> 
> Hope this helps if anyone runs into the same problem

A better question would be: why isn't Freenet (or perhaps the JRE 
itself) fully LFN-compatible? Especially given that it's cross-
platform, and some systems (Mac, *nix) don't have 8.3 filenames at 
all...
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Re: [freenet-support] java crash within two hours running build 5100

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 12 Dec 2004 at 21:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > # Please report this error at
> > # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
> 
> Have you done that?  Might help.  Unlikely, with Sun, but possible.

Are you sure you're not thinking about Microsoft here rather than 
Sun? :)
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Re: [freenet-support] java crash within two hours running build 5100

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 12 Dec 2004 at 18:07, Chris Gentile wrote:

> bash-2.05b$ more hs_err_pid6154.log
>  
> Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x40324F3A
> Function=(null)+0x40324F3A
> Library=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_04/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

Signal 11 is segmentation fault isn't it?

> NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
>   just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
>   reason and solutions.

Hrm. So it happened in JIT-compiled code, or the JVM jumped into 
never-never land, or your ld.so really screwed the pooch. Try it with 
JIT disabled and see if it works. Anyway, it's almost surely a JVM 
problem and not strictly a Freenet problem.

> Here is the first few lines of my log file

The final few lines before the crash would perhaps be more useful. 
Then we'd know what it was doing, or trying to do, when it shot 
itself in the foot.
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Re: [freenet-support] Is FIND dead?

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 22 Nov 2004 at 3:39, Sonax wrote:

> No, FIND is not dead, i have just been having some ISP related 
> trouble. I hope to get back by the middle of this week, but i have 
> also learned that promises from my ISP are not worth... well, much.

Promises from ISPs are worth slightly less than promises from 
politicians.
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Re: [freenet-support] Current stable build numbers

[Paul]

Setting up a wiki on the site to help with documentation and other
tidbits might be worth considering. I'm sure there are many non-coders
that would be willing to help mantain documentation and other
faq/how-to stuff.
~Paul


- Original Message -
From: Newsbyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:44:40 +0200
Subject: [freenet-support] Current stable build numbers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
Well, I'm already maintaining the Changelog, and one can see the
latest (stable) build there...more or less. But, aside from one time
(which was a pleasant surprise, but not enough to make my point
unvalid), it's always me who has to do it, even with cvs, everybody
(with access) could do it, really.
  
I have more or less stopped with the maillistsummary for the same
reason. I'm willing to do a lot, but if I sense little support, it's
of little use to continue.
  
Idem with the finance-page-thingy, which I tought was a real good
idea, just as most others, but it still didn't go nowhere, not even
for actually getting it of the ground. Ian wants some scriptthingy
with it, and I had contact with 2 coders, but for some reason, it
always withered to nothing.
  
There is an apparent lack of willingness to actually do some things,
especially by the non-coders - even if they could and would be
appreciated when doing so. I mean, I can't expect toad to be burdened
with website-probs or other, even if interesting or important, issues.
But some coders that aren't totally focused on the coding of fred, and
certainly the myriads of non-coders; why don't they do something in
this regard?
  
Beats me. 
  
I'm willing to help out with your proposal, sonax, but only as
'part-time'; I'm not taking it solely on me to maintain. It's a
worthwhile idea, but you or someone else should take it upon you, and
I'm always willing to give a helping hand with it.

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Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 25 Aug 2004 at 0:32, Toad wrote:

> The weakness is insoluble. Unless nodes run 24x7 for LONG periods, and
> encrypt the entire store with an ephemeral key, thus wiping it on
> startup.

I thought it was a stated goal of freenet to make it impossible to 
have this kind of breach without an attacker compromising a majority 
of the nodes (or having the resources to create new nodes under their 
control in numbers exceeding the number of pre-existing nodes, so 
they then control a majority of the nodes anyway).
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...

[Paul Derbyshire]

Definitely a heat problem.

* Make sure the vents on your computer case are not obstructed.
* Check the fans in the machine are working properly.
* See about a bigger/better heatsink/fan on the CPU if necessary.

If you're not very knowledgeable about hardware talk to the vendor 
about these and see what they'll do. Unless the ventilation is 
blocked, an overheating problem is their fault anyways, and it might 
even come under warranty.

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Re: [freenet-support] EstimateFormatException: No point 0 ? (build 5091)

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:36, Bart van der Ouderaa wrote:

> The problem was that i didn't even get an open port at  (portscan  
> showed no open port betweeen 8000 and 9000).

Did you run the port scan locally? If it was a remote probe (such as 
results from going to any of those security-related Web sites that 
probes your machine and reports the results on a Web form), your 
firewall probably stopped it, and even if not, I don't think Freenet 
by default allows remote connections to its port anyway.
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RE: [freenet-support] datastore size

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 14 Aug 2004 at 1:06, Paul Schauble wrote:

> There should be a relationship between bandwidth and store size. At a guess,
> it's exponential, doubling the bandwidth can support a store 4 times larger.

That's quadratic, not exponential. The store size would be scaling 
with the square of the bandwidth, not 2 to the power of something 
proportional to the bandwidth.

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RE: [freenet-support] datastore size

[Paul Schauble]

There should be a relationship between bandwidth and store size. At a guess,
it's exponential, doubling the bandwidth can support a store 4 times larger.

Estimating this relationship would be valuable to the people running nodes.

++PLS

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Hmmm. Am I wrong to think there probably is an optimal store size for
each node?

My thinking is that as the store grows, the node draws more requests,
which at some point will exceed the node's ability to service them all
in a timely manner due to resource limits (probably bandwidth).

As the store grows larger, even more requests come in, causing the node
to service a shrinking proportion of the total number of requests
directed towards it, which has a negative impact on the network.


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Martin Scheffler
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:40 PM
> To: Steve; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [freenet-support] h
>
> Am Dienstag, 10. August 2004 21:41 schrieb Steve:
> > Can it hurt the network if I make my datastore too big?
>
> short answer: No!
>
> long answer: The store fills up when your node serves requests from
others
> and you (the user). If a requested key is already in the store, your
node
> just sends this and makes no request on his own for that. When the
store
> is full, the least recently used key(s) is/are purged to make room. A
> bigger store means more keys are available, so chances to find
requested
> keys in the store increase, this is _GOOD_ for the network.
>
> ( might only overflow your own hard disk if configured insane :-) )
>
> good byte
> berny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet on FreeBSD

[Paul]

'linux_enable="YES"' is enabled on the server. Like I said, it runs
for a while and dies with one or two processes hogging all the
avalible cpu time. What version of freebsd are you using? I did get it
running by pointing the freenet scripts to the java vm loc. Anyway,
I'm going to wait and see if newer versions of freenet will work with
it. Otherwise I'm gonna wait for my hosting company to get a linux
server :-P
~Paul


On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:51:15 -0500, S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:48:37 -0400
> Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The binary on the server at the moment is a 1.3 vm. To get the 1.4 vm
> > working you have to download the source and some binaries from sun's
> > site, apply a patch from the bsd team, and then compile it. (all
> > because of sun's lisense) Sounds simple enough execpt compiling it
> > requires a java vm.
> > ~Paul
> 
> Fuck that noise. If you can support Linux binary compatibility (try
> linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf), you can use the Linux binary
> version of Java instead of jumping through hoops to compile a native
> recent version on FreeBSD.
> 
> # fetch "http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9719";
> # mv AutoDL\?BundleId\=9719 j2re1.4.2_05
> # chmod 755 j2re1.4.2_05
> # ./j2re1.4.2_05
> 
> [press Enter a lot, then agree to the license]
> 
> Finally, edit your start-freenet.sh to point to the copy of Java that
> you installed.
> 
> This is how I run Freenet under FreeBSD ... with the Linux distribution.
> It's a shame that Dolphin is no longer participating here, he was a
> FreeBSD user who had managed to compile his own local native copy of
> Java. I could never get it to work, so I went with emulating the Linux
> version.
> 
> -s
>
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet on FreeBSD

[Paul]

The binary on the server at the moment is a 1.3 vm. To get the 1.4 vm
working you have to download the source and some binaries from sun's
site, apply a patch from the bsd team, and then compile it. (all
because of sun's lisense) Sounds simple enough execpt compiling it
requires a java vm.
~Paul

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:05:33 +0200, TLD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > I'm working on setting up a freenet node on a machine running FreeBSD
> > 4.6. The java vm that is already installed (and is the most current
> > version) is a java 1.3 vm. Sun does not release a vm for the BSDs. At
> 
> You really need at last the (possibly latest) 1.4 jvm, sorry.
> Me, I use the 1.4.2 linux version on NetBSD, and it works very well.
> 
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[freenet-support] Freenet on FreeBSD

[Paul]

I'm working on setting up a freenet node on a machine running FreeBSD
4.6. The java vm that is already installed (and is the most current
version) is a java 1.3 vm. Sun does not release a vm for the BSDs. At
the moment I'm planing on compiling the jdk from the source provided
by sun with the freebsd patches (www.freebsd.org/java). Any advice?
Will freenet work with the freebsd patched version?
~Paul
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Re: [freenet-support] (no subject)

[Paul]

I'd think the sixth admendment (protection from unreasionable search
and seizure) helps people get away with crimes all the time. Should we
ditch that too?
~Paul

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:55:58 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ignorance is not a defense and nor should it be.  If it was it would be almost 
> impossible to arrest anyone.  All you would need to do is have someone ask you to do 
> it beforehand.
> Someone asks you to hold their box of drugs.  Oh but you didn't know what was in the 
> box it must be a big mistake.
> Someone asks you to help him into his locked house.  Oh but you didn't know that it 
> wasn't his house.
> Someone asks you to hide him from the cops.  I guess it's alright because you didn't 
> know he committed a crime.
> If you allow people to hide behind the fact that they simply didn't know with 100% 
> certainty that what they were doing was a crime no one would ever be guilty.  It's 
> called personal responsibility, if your doing something it's up to you to ensure its 
> legal.
> 
> Someone that has drug deals happen in his yard does have a defense.  He didn't let 
> them.  If he had said 'Sure come on in and use my yard to deal drugs' (like when you 
> run a freenet node) then he would be guilty.
> Ignoring an obvious crime is not a crime, you can watch someone get shot and killed 
> if you wanted.  Ignoring your obvious crime however is quite punishable.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [freenet-support] (no subject)
> Importance: Low
> 
> On 5 Aug 2004 04:42:44
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ("Matthew Findley") writes
> 
> | Let me see if I can get caught up on whats gone on since I left work.
> | First I should probably clear this up.  I am not a lawyer.  I work at the
> |  U.S. Attoreny's Office yes; but, only as a clerk. So nothing I say is
> | legal advice, the postion of the DOJ, to be considered an offical
> | interpretation of the laws, ect
> 
> In other words, you were reprimanded at work for stirring up shit from an
> @usdoj.gov email address and now it's time to interject the disclaimers.
> If you weren't yet, you will be.  I've been in a similar position, though
> not quite exactly the same, I made the same mistake, using a uniform email
> address in a civilian conversation, and I've felt the heat for it.
> 
> On the one hand, I sympathize with you.  Why would Anonymous issue an
> apology?  Because even Anonymous can and perhaps will be identified via
> linguistic analysis, though I've done my best to pervert this message in
> such a manner that it cannot be connected with its author.  On the other
> hand, I must assert that whomever initiated or will initiate the stink, it
> didn't start or won't start with me.  Although, believe me, I have
> considered it since your first post to this list from an official address,
> and long before the current thread was borne.
> 
> You go on to state
> 
> | Let me put it this way. When you all fire up your nodes you know there
> | is a very strong likelyhood that it will end up houseing and transmiting
> | illegal material, correct?
> 
> I would ask "Who is 'you all'?" and I would posit that the response is not
> 'correct.'  (I would also insert a 'you people' and 'H Perot' reference,
> but that would be controversial and too demonstrable of knowledge of U.S.
> politics, no?)
> 
> Freenet is comprised of a wide variety of users.  Many of those users whom
> have been and continue to remain early adopters of Freenet are those same
> people what were and continue to be early adopters of other emerging
> technologies.  They're in it for the tech, they're in it for the ideals,
> they're in it to support the ability of oppressed citizenries (I must
> wonder if that now applies to you in the States?) to have the continued
> freedom to express their ideas.  And for fuck's sakes, some of them are
> just in it for the challenge of programming something new in Java.
> 
> More to a point, there are Freenet node operators what have no idea that
> they may end up storing or transmitting illicit material.  There are
> Freenet node operators what have been convinced by acquaintances to try out
> a new software program, one which is at the bleeding edge of networking,
> one which hopes to offer anonymity to its users, and what have installed
> Freenet to this very end.  There are Freenet node operators what run a node
> but don't make 

Re: Re: Security precautions, CVS commit mails was Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)

[Paul]

Well, a very striped down version of OpenBSD running off a cd and
freenet's cache being on an encripted disk with a one-time key (ie a
new key is randomly generated at boot) would make setting up a freenet
machine simple, safe, and dificult to update. :-p , 9 years with
one remote hole....
~Paul

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:23:51 +0200, Zenon Panoussis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Toad wrote:
> 
> >> You have taken extraordinary measures to protect against [the
> >> ftp server being hacked], haven't you?
> 
> > Umm, measures such as..? I don't see how you can defend against the
> > above, really.
> 
> Well, first of all the elementary stuff. No other services on the
> same machine. You don't want your ftp server compromised because
> of a flaw in mailman, or even sendmail, so put that stuff elsewhere.
> Heavy firewalling. IDS. No compiler installed; most hacks begin
> with a compilation. No unnecessary script interpreters; an ftp
> server can live very well (and much longer) without PHP, python,
> perl, java, whathaveyou. A super-lean kernel. A permanently up
> to date system.
> 
> Then the more tedious stuff. Remote syslog. Remote md5sums of every
> file on the machine, regularly checked. A draconic password policy.
> Why not a read-only server running from a CD-ROM?
> 
> And then comes the really difficult part, physical security. A
> gang of angry and hungry dobbermans in the outer perimeter, cobras
> in the server room, tarantulas inside the server itself.
> 
> As a side-dish, network security. If your DNS can be compromised,
> nobody needs to touch your ftp server before they can serve their
> own files from "your" machine. Arp. There is really no way to
> ensure that a visitor to your ftp server won't end up elsewhere,
> but an unpredictable control mechanism can let you know if that
> happens and mitigate the damage.
> 
> > There is one thing though... I think the CVS announcement mails are
> > generated on the client side. They should be generated on the server
> > side. Anyone know how to do this?
> 
> What you mean by "CVS announcements"?
> 
> Z
> 
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Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)

[Paul]

What country does respect freedoms? The US is getting to the point
where emgrating becomes a serious consideration for me. I'm still
young, I don't have a stable job or faimly. I'd rather live somewhere
that I can be sure my future kids and myself will be free than live a
richer live in the US. Is it really that childish of me to hold onto
my ideals that people should be free?
~Paul


- Original Message -
From: Matthew Findley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:42:44 -0500
Subject: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
Let me see if I can get caught up on whats gone on since I left work.
First I should probably clear this up.  I am not a lawyer.  I work at
the U.S. Attoreny's Office yes; but, only as a clerk.
So nothing I say is legal advice, the postion of the DOJ, to be
considered an offical interpretation of the laws, ect
  
Someone asked if attempting to block KP would eliminate intent.  This
question would be up to the jury.  While you would probably need 100%
blocking to win in a civial trial.  This would be much more likely to
satisfy a criminal jury.
  
Someone else pointed out that ISPs are not officaly common carriers. 
This is of course correct.  But the hybrid nature of what they do
gives them a sort of grey status.  So while no responsable for what
goes on across their networks in general.  They are responsable if a
problem is brought to their attention and they fail to act.
That person also used the example of an employ abuseing a company computer.
In that case the company isn't criminaly responsable beacuse they
didn't know what the employ was useing the computer for.  You can not
be held responsable for something you fail to forsee and prevent.  If
the company had known what he was useing the computer for and failed
to act then they can be held responsable.  Your intent can only be
establashed by your actions and knowledge.  The company had no
knowdedge of what you were doing.
  
Quote
'IANAL (BIKAF), but I would expect that for ignorance to be willful it
can't be a side-effect of a goal, it must be a goal in itself.  There 
are plenty of reasons why someone might want to use Freenet other than
obtaining illegal content.'
  
That is very true.  Other wise we could hold people responsable for
virus on their computer.  You can not arrest someone for what they
didn't know and thus couldn't see.  But you can for something they did
know but chose to ignore.  You know that your node is transmitting bad
stuff and its doing so by your choice to activate it, ignoreing it
simply beacuse you can't see it is not a defense.
  

Let me put it this way.
When you all fire up your nodes you know there is a very strong
likelyhood that it will end up houseing and transmiting illegal
material, correct?
So you know your computer will be doing something illegal and yet
choose to do it anyway simply because you can not see it.  That is
willful blindness and is not a defense that will stand up in court.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: anonymity(NOT)

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 4 Aug 2004 at 15:38, Mika Hirvonen wrote:

> Yes, it's trivial for Them to know whether someone runs a Freenet node or 
> not, but knowing what the user was doing with that node is an another 
> matter (assuming that the node is physically secure, has encrypted drives 
> and the user is invulnerable to rubber-hose cryptography).

Erm ... "rubber-hose cryptography"? WTH is that?
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Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

[Paul]

OTOH woulden't the open proxy be an isp? The proxy is really just a
router between two networks. The networks don't need to have the same
lower level protocalls... The other differene would be that no one is
paying him for the service. But then comes in the free ISPs of the dot
com era. Given the political climent in the US and the American Civil
Liberities Union being overwhelmed with its currnet case load.not
the best time.

Another option would be to provide a list on a public website stating
what ip address requested a given key (and time ofcorse). Tacking a
disclamer at the bottom of all pages with a warning about logging and
being responsible for inaproate content. And finaly making it obvious
that you will block any keys that the police/lawyers request blocked.
I don't piticularly like this option, but it seems the safest. I doubt
any of us could afford to defend ourselves agenst even a cupple
lawsuits. Anyway, long live king bush

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:53:32 +0200, Zenon Panoussis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Toad wrote:
> 
> > They are not indexed by google because by default fproxy sends a
> > robots.txt indicating that it shouldn't be spidered.
> 
> Aaah, I see. That explains S' comment too. Well, current
> legislation does not require me to learn java, but it
> does not forbid me to either ;)
> 
> [prosecutor's block orders]
> 
> > So they go after us and make us provide a version with that option.
> 
> Yes, theoretically they they could try, but who is "us"
> in an open source project? If all they wanted was to
> force X content out of a certain node, I think they'd
> go for the easiest way and take down the node. If they
> want more, such as a tool to monitor and control
> underground communications, they'd write their own and
> present it to the public as an improved freenet version.
> 
> In fact, that's exactly what it says on freenetproject.org,
> "new stable version released". Ask me, did I carefully read
> and analyse the code I'm running? Did I build everything
> myself from source? Erhm, uhm, well, can we change the
> subject?
> 
> [UK]
> 
> > But perhaps other jurisdictions are more sane.
> 
> There was a cartoon in Punch a few years ago - I so regret
> I didn't keep it - depicting Bush playing a tambourine and
> Blair in the form of a small monkey on a chain, dancing to it.
> That cartoonist really captured the whole essence of the
> situation in a few penstrokes. If the US has a patriot act,
> why would the UK not have one?
> 
> > The proletariat are the majority. Democracy is "the rule of the mob".
> > And btw, they're not proles. They're middle class in the modern
> > newspeak. They're middle income. They just read the Sun ;).
> 
> Hey, that makes you and me the elite, the intelligentsia,
> the avant-garde in this swamp we live in. Lets see it from
> the bright side :)
> 
> > Seriously, it's a lot easier to convince the average person that Freenet
> > is evil than that it is needed.
> 
> Interestingly, it's seldom you read in the paper about
> petty mafiosi, illegal immigrants and street bums getting
> caught with big archives of kiddie porn. Invariably they
> are well-established members of the middle or higher
> middle class (the real upper class is above suspicion,
> so it doesn't get caught). The class that uses illegal
> content on freenet is the very class that proclaims to
> be against it. Perhaps "mirrornet" would be a better
> name for it: what you see there is what you are.
> 
> Duh. We have come a very long way from technical support
> and I doubt everybody around is interested in these
> philosophical aspects.
> 
> Z
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Stunnel & Freenet

[Paul]

The truly parnoid could use a ssh tunnel to link their node to only a
few trusted nodes.
~Paul

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:03:37 + (UTC), phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > No. All inter-node communications are encrypted. Separately, all data is
> > encrypted at the file level.
> 
> OK welcome to blab-out-my-arse-ville!!  I'm glad to be corrected & clearly need
> to study-up on freenet more.  Thanks for your patience.
> 
> > I don't see that it's relevant to the legal issue at stake..
> 
> I guess the point was that the cache on its own never used to be enough, and the
> apparent trend toward further loosening of evidence standards.
> >
> > Some of them are referring to running a
> > node, and then analysing the requests that come in. This is difficult,
> > as demonstrated above and for other reasons, but especially with
> > splitfiles, it is not impossible. Also there may be traffic analysis
> > vulnerabilities, with a sufficiently smart and powerful attacker.
> >
> 
> Any ideas about how much 'not impossible'?
> 
> Thanks again, amphibian one.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Project health

[Paul]

Not nessessarly. Freenet requires a lot of horsepower because of all
the crypto required for even simple connections.

http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45250";>Java vs C++


Java vs C++ "Shootout" Revisited
June 15, 2004

Summary
"I was sick of hearing people say Java was slow," says Keith Lea,
"so I took the benchmark code for C++ and Java from the now outdated
Great Computer Language Shootout (Fall 2001) and ran the tests
myself." Lea's results three years on? Java, he finds, is
significantly faster than optimized C++ in many cases.

http://www.kano.net/javabench/graph";>




On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:15:50 -0500, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What's the health of Freenet as a whole right now?  I'm getting lots of
> pages taking forever to load (or never loading), and I think it's still
> using 100% CPU on my 200 mhz router on 768k (up and down) DSL, even
> though the browser is on another machine...
> 
> I was planning to make a permanent node, but I don't run it much
> anymore, because my brother games (so he needs high bandwidth and low
> latency), and Freenet is still the most costly service I run on that
> thing (in terms of CPU, bandwidth, etc.)
> 
> I know it's been mentioned before, but I'll state for the record that I
> think Java was a bad choice.  Rather than start a new flame war, I'd
> like to go read up on why it was chosen (any archives I should look at?).
> 
> For the record, I have never, ever seen a java program load quickly, run
> even tolerably fast for anything beyond the most basic things, and I've
> never seen an open source implementation of Java work firsthand.  I
> don't like the syntax, but that's a personal issue -- I'd love to be
> proven wrong on this.
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Re: [freenet-support] starting probs

[Paul]

Router Config
You need to set the router to foward port 11354 to the ip address of
your redhat machine. That is the DMZ setting. If your router just
makes one comptuer the dmz then set your redhat machine as the dmz.
Error
Is another copy of freenet running? 'ps -A|grep java' will have a
progam called 'javaw' running if freenet (or another java app) is
running. You can always change the port that it should bind too. You
should have privliges to bind to that port.
~Paul

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:46:17 +0200, rensinghoff
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> Hi ! I am new to this freenet stuff, so i apologize in advance for
> stupid questions.
> 
> I am running on Linux and have a DSL Router, so i get a little bit
> confused with all the numbers especially the port number
> 
> i always get this error
> 
> "Could not bind to listening port(s) - maybe another node is running?
> Or, you might not have privileges to bind to a port < 1024."
> 
> This is my freenet.conf
> 
> "ipAddress=80.185.173.127
> listenPort=11354
> seedNodes=seednodes.ref
> "
> 
> i got the IP-Adress from the router-setup-wizard because its dynamic
> 
> but what about the port ?? Can i run as "user" ???
> 
> I found some settings in the router setup called DMZ..is that that right
> spot where i have to "open" the port ??
> 
> I might send you a screenshot if that helps.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Luigi
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Re: [freenet-support] blacklist whitelist

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 2 Jul 2004 at 11:54, miguel wrote:

> This talk of blacklisting makes me want to puke.  
> Let's just go back to the censored internet.  Man, we're getting our own little 
> versions of Big Brother on here.
> If you don't want to look at it, don't look at it, or get off of Freenet.
> I doubt that Ian would agree with all this talk of censorship(euphemized as 
> "blacklisting").
> So, we don't like Janet Jackson's breast nor Howard Stern's mouth.  Don't look.  
> Don't listen.

Sigh, another misunderstanding. There's no censorship involved here 
except individuals choosing not to retrieve keys based on their being 
known to be the keys of content of a kind they personally don't like. 
By not retrieving the keys they save bandwidth and also can avoid 
encouraging the spread of content they don't approve of. But their 
node will not treat the keys any differently, only the frontend 
software they are using to retrieve and view freesites, and also 
there would be no centralised control involved that could be abused.

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Re: [freenet-support] RE: trouble getting any information

[Paul]

Many dialup connections are regularly reset. They probably would have
locked his account if he had gone over bandwidth or connection time.
Getting disconnected is just a fact of life.
~Paul

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:08:53 +0100, Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> You have no idea WHY it lost the connection to the ISP? Did they contact
> you to complain about bandwidth usage or anything? How do you connect to
> the internet? Has that changed recently?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 06:38:37PM -0400, Nicholas Sturm wrote:
> > Restarted freenet last night.  Slow to make contacts but by an hour later
> > 62 were open and freenet seemed to be behaving nicely together with SETI
> > running. CPU at 100% but behavior was what I now call "normal."
> >
> > At about noon today I checked and data transferred was many megs and
> > messages were at about 15,000 on two most active connections.  Checked mail
> > and came back about an hour later to find that SETI had transmitted results
> > and was "not" maximized any longer.  Then I realized that system seemed
> > inactive.  ISP had closed connection and I had some difficulty getting
> > anything to respond.  Finally after right click on rabbit in tray, I was
> > able to open popup window and stopped freenet.  Few things started to show
> > apparent activity and I could then maximize SETI and it had completed about
> > 6% of a job after sending and bringing down a new job.
> >
> > I then reconnected and restarted freenet and function seemed to return.  I
> > checked the log and it showed a very long segment of failures.  (Log was at
> > about 2.5 megs.)  Errors continued abundantly as I expected since contact
> > had been lost from other nodes for some time.  Shut down.  (To do other
> > work.)  About three hours later I tried to restart, but experience little
> > success.  Log hung when I tried to work back through the log (problem
> > here?).  Finally shut down OS and restarted.
> >
> > The apparent hang from shut down of ISP connection I had not observed
> > before (not to say that I actually know it never did).  Is this common?
> > Will freenet do this when only it is producing high CPU usage or could it
> > be because two programs were trying to work at maximum level (SETI &
> > freenet)?  Should freenet not detect loss of internet connection and not go
> > blindly on with unsuccessful high usage?  I would think that when finally
> > operating this should not be allowed to happen as ISP closure would
> > certainly not be uncommon with large numbers of nodes running (even if it
> > only happens with multiple high demands on CPU).
> >
> > Recently checked thread usage and seems seldom to go beyond 700 even when
> > system very busy.
> >
> > Oh,  2KWin and Sun Java (recent).  256 memory.  Dial up connection.  ~18.6
> > hard drives capacity each of two(C: pretty high, about 1.5 gig open, D:
> > with about 4-5 gig open).  What else important?
> >
> > Nick
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> >
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[freenet-support] Interesting news posting in alt.internet.p2p

[Paul Derbyshire]

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=freetella&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&c2coff=1&safe=off&selm=Xns951A1E8DA9B51neo1061hotmailcom%4066.185.95
.104&rnum=2

It's a very, very, very bloody long posting, and the really relevant-
to-you stuff is only near the bottom, but there's a proposal for a 
file-sharing-and-searching-over-Freenet system, "freetella", 
basically gnutella + freenet as I understand it. The reputation 
management stuff is interesting (but full of *#&! math!) in 
particular, as well as the suggestion that Frost could form part of 
the back end of this thing too. The reputation management thing may 
be more interesting than Freetella proper, though, because it seems 
to offer what are described as, and I can't disprove it, "foolproof" 
ways to a) make any indexing system based on volunteer contributions 
to an index difficult to spam or flood or otherwise pollute based on 
reputation management -- I especially like the notion of contributer 
identities being in the key strings for their submissions so if they 
wind up in really bad repute clients can simply not retrieve such 
keys at all, thus allowing pollution to wither and die instead of 
persisting, but being ignored, but continuing to burden clients 
making sheer volume denial of service attacks of such publicly-
annotatable indices possible. Such DoS tricks will run up against a 
brick wall of clients not retrieving or propagating the pollution at 
all, limiting the damage to one node and its immediate environs. It's 
like they can dump toxic waste but it won't get into the groundwater. 
The math stuff has to do with preventing a spammer cheating the 
reputation management system by making multiple IDs that all vote 
each other up. It's tricky (Markov chains, what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] are Markov 
chains for Pete's sake?) and something is "an exercise left to the 
reader" but he (she?) seems to have found a way to make self-votes, 
even indirect ones, cancel out somehow. Also, there's no central 
stuff mentioned, which would have cast immediate doubt on the whole 
thing. No central reputation management, the reputation management 
reputation manages its own internal votes as well as whatever larger 
purpose it serves, no centralized anything as near as I can tell. No 
vulnerabilities. No dependence on non-Freenet services at all that I 
can see, aside from the inevitable loopback "spaghetti networking" 
internal to the node machines involved in everything Freenet, the 
basic internet protocols themselves, and DNS. Even that might be 
jettisoned when static IPs are used throughout (IPv6 might make 
dynamic IPs a bad memory. In a pig's eye.)

There's some sort of wacko anti-RIAA stuff in the article too, 
including an "I don't hate the RIAA, they're just a favorite whipping 
boy" sort of disclaimer right after a lengthy discussion of how to 
completely thwart the RIAA *without* freenet or heavy use of 
encryption. Whether we *should* thwart the RIAA is left as an 
exercise for the reader's consicence, I guess. The clever scheme 
involves breaking bootleg files up into chunks to small they are 
either unintelligible in isolation or fall under fair use, which need 
not even be encrypted though he seems to recommend some crypto, and 
are combined into the complete file (and if necessary decrypted) by 
someone who wants the file. The trick is for no host to offer more 
than one fragment so there's nothing but an unintelligible, 
suggestively named (author's own words more or less) or a fair-use 
quotation being shared, i.e. no probable cause for searching your cpu 
and finding the rest of the file or even supposing you knew what 
others were doing with the file. I'm not totally sure they wouldn't 
find some way to legislate such a thing out of the loophole 
described, though. In fact, they probably would. There's also some 
stuff about ISPs relaxing AUPs, freedom of speech, world peace, and 
so on. Says he's a fellow canadian -- probably a canuck that voted 
NDP on Monday and commutes regularly to an institute of higher 
learning then. And before that a long long list of suggestions for 
improving gnutella most of them seriously technical. I think he also 
took potshots at bill gates, shareaza, and some other prominent 
targets besides the RIAA. Oh, and the FBI and other law enforcement 
agencies of questionable trustworthiness. (Why not mention CSIS?)

Oh and he dares them to prosecute him under the DMCA for posting it. 
Then he thumbs his nose at the yankee gestapo and that's where he 
announces his canadianness. Hope he hasn't any travel plans to like 
Florida or Hawaii in the near future then. :)

Anyway the freenet-related stuff at the bottom looks interesting. I 
think the reputation stuff may be quite generalizable for a lot of 
other stuff. There's occasionally talk of how to influence unwanted 
stuff into expiring from the freenet here -- reputation management 
that blacklists keys (and bad blacklisters) in principle lets one 
stop their machin

Re: [freenet-support] Development system

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 27 Jun 2004 at 11:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i suppose the heavy cpu usage arises because the node tries to contact all nodes it 
> knows. this of course won't work as it is not connected to the internet. a solution 
> would be to delete the routing table so it 
> doesn't even know of other nodes and it cannot try to contact them which will result 
> in a nice, fast booting and completely isolated local node for your tests:
> 
> - stop the freenet node
> - cd into the freenet directory
> - delete the files: ls* ngrt* rt* seednodes.ref
> - start the node
> 
> HTH
> 
> if you want to re-integrate the node again download the seednodes.ref (or the .bz'ed 
> version) from http://freenetprogect.org/snapshots/
> dunno, but it might be necessary to delete ls* rt* ngrt* again for the node to 
> reseed itself. then again maybe it will reseed automatically from the seednodes file 
> if it has too few noderefs.

An alternative would be to hide the files from Freenet, rather than 
delete them, and restore them to re-integrate the node. Moving them 
should do it, and renaming them might (especially changing their 
extensions by adding .bak might).
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Re: [freenet-support] Uptimes (was DATA STORE)

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:07, Michael R. Stork wrote:

> Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is 
> just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one 
> minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be 
> active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. 
> Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, 
> something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless.

This has come up several times lately, that it takes 10+ hours of 
uptime before a node is reasonably integrated into the network. Has 
anyone considered that this is problematical when the most commonly 
used OS around, Windows, has a mean uptime between crashes shorter 
than that? :P
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Re: [freenet-support] How to speed up Java

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 15 Jun 2004 at 23:29, Troed Sångberg wrote:

> Saw this on /. - thought it might interest someone. Especially the part 
> about using the server JVM instead of client JVM when speed is an issue 
> (i.e, if you have plenty of ram but you feel Freenet use too much CPU)
>
> http://www3.sys-con.com/java/rotate2.cfm

Eh? All I see at this link is a single ad banner and no actual
content. Using Firefox 0.8 if it matters.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet on Mac OS X 10.3.3

[Paul Landers]

The output of the uname command on OS X is "Darwin".

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[freenet-support] Additional info

[Paul Landers]

Here is additional info for previous email I sent:

Number of known routing nodes 
   382  
   Number of node references  
  382   
   Number of newbie nodes 
  42   
   Number of uncontactable nodes  
  21
   Contacted and attempted to contact node references 
  380
   Contacted node references  
  183
   Contacted newbie node references   
  41
   Connections with Successful Transfers  
  111
   Backed off nodes   
  90
   Connection Attempts
  4469
   Successful Connections 
  1230
   Lowest max estimated search time   
  0ms
   Lowest max estimated DNF time  
  0ms
   Lowest global search time estimate 
  6734ms
   Highest global search time estimate
  15964ms
   Lowest global transfer rate estimate   
  5,419 bytes/second
   Highest global transfer rate estimate  
  8,943 bytes/second
   Lowest one hop probability of DNF  
  0.97
   Highest one hop probability of DNF 
  0.98
   Lowest one hop probability of transfer failure 
  0.07
   Highest one hop probability of transfer failure
  0.1
   Single hop probability of QueryRejected
  0.116
   Single hop average time for QueryRejected  
  856.1948537740136
   Single hop probability of early timeout
  0.065
Single hop average time for early timeout 
   18006.53479845214
   Single hop probability of search timeout   
  0.454
   Single hop average time for search timeout 
  825.8213815649156
   Single hop overall probability of DNF given no
timeout0.976
   Single hop overall probability of transfer failure
given transfer 0.066
   Total number of requests that didn't QR
  114480
   Total number of reqests that timed out before a QR
or Accepted10237

Thanks again!!!




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[freenet-support] Node performance slowed

[Paul Landers]

My node has been performing fine for about a week,
then performance (downloads) have slowed dramatically.
 Here are the lines from the performance page:

 Node Version   0.5
   Protocol Version STABLE-1.50
 Build Number   5084
 CVS Revision   1.90.2.50.2.112
  Uptime
13 hours 27 minutes   (**I just restarted after
running update.sh)
   Load

   Current routingTime 0ms
   Current messageSendTimeRequest 146ms
   Pooled threads running jobs 23 (19.2%)
   Pooled threads which are idle 12
   Current upstream bandwidth usage 10059 bytes/second
(81.9%)
   Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes 19%
   Current estimated load for rate limiting 102.3%
   Reason for load: Load due to thread limit = 19.2%
   Load due to routingTime = 10% = 100ms / 1000ms <=
overloadLow (100%)
   Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 14.6% = 146ms
/ 1000ms <= overloadLow
   (100%)
   Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 102.3%
because outputBytes(603564) >limit (589824.009 ) =
outLimitCutoff (0.8) * outputBandwidthLimit (12288) *
60
   Load due to expected inbound transfers: 6.4%
because: 7207.588710692461 req/hr
   * 0.00734725440006 (pTransfer) * 251890.0 bytes
= 13339083 bytes/hr
   expected from current requests, but
maxInputBytes/minute = 3176302 (max
   observed bytes per minute) * 60 * 1.1 = 209635932
bytes/hr target
   Estimated  external  pSearchFailed (based only on
QueryRejections due to load):
   0.0
   Current estimated requests per hour (based on last
10 mins): 3401.9411818496924
   Current global quota (requests per hour):
3396.4461522111264
   Highest seen bytes downloaded in one minute:
3176302
   Current outgoing request rate 7207.588710692461
   Current probability of a request succeeding 3%
   Current target (best case single node) probability
of a request succeeding 7.7%



I am unsure if any changes in freenet.conf would
improve performance.  Please advise.  Thanks!!!





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RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5083

[Paul Schauble]

I seem to have the same problem. What do you do about it?



-Original Message-
From: Niklas Bergh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:31 AM
To: Jonathan Towle; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5083


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Reseed it. 5083 sets 5082 to mandatory and if you haven't run your node for
a while chance is that all the nodes in your old rt was older than 5082.

/N
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Towle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Freenet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 4:38 AM
Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5083


> I hadn't started my rinky-dinky dialup transient node for a while, so I
> tried updating with 5083 and the latest seednodes.
>
> It correctly detects me as transient, but is unable to connect to any
other
> nodes.  I can see I'm sending syn packets to addresses, but I can't
> establish any connections.
>
> My setup: Win2K, 56K dialup, latest everything from Freenet.
>
> The log:
>
> May 29, 2004 10:17:21 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting
Freenet
> (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5083 on JVM Sun Microsystems Inc.:Java HotSpot(TM)
> Client VM:1.4.2-b28
> May 29, 2004 10:17:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node
> keys: node
> May 29, 2004 10:17:23 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Read node file
> May 29, 2004 10:17:24 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting
> filesystem
> May 29, 2004 10:17:27 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading data
> store
> May 29, 2004 10:17:27 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading
routing
> table
> May 29, 2004 10:17:27 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): From output:
> 49152.0
> May 29, 2004 10:17:27 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Setting
default
> initTransferRate to 49152.0
> May 29, 2004 10:17:27 PM (freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable, main, NORMAL):
> Loading estimators
> May 29, 2004 10:17:28 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Created new
NGRT
> May 29, 2004 10:17:28 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded stats
> May 29, 2004 10:17:28 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading temp
> bucket factory
> May 29, 2004 10:17:28 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loaded temp
> bucket factory
> May 29, 2004 10:17:28 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded bucket
> factory
> May 29, 2004 10:17:29 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): read seed
nodes
> May 29, 2004 10:17:29 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Initial refs
> count: 5
> May 29, 2004 10:17:29 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): not seeding
> routing table
> May 29, 2004 10:17:29 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): saved routing
> table
> May 29, 2004 10:17:29 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting node
> May 29, 2004 10:17:30 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading
service:
> mainport
> May 29, 2004 10:17:31 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading
service:
> distribution
> May 29, 2004 10:17:31 PM
> (freenet.interfaces.servlet.SingleHttpServletContainer, main, NORMAL):
> Loading the single servlet distribution.params.servlet
> May 29, 2004 10:17:31 PM (freenet.node.Node, main, NORMAL): Starting
> ticker..
> May 29, 2004 10:17:31 PM (freenet.node.Node, main, NORMAL): Starting
> interfaces..
> May 29, 2004 10:17:31 PM (freenet.node.http.BookmarkManagerServlet, main,
> NORMAL): Bookmarks updated on request
> May 29, 2004 10:17:32 PM (freenet.node.Node, main, NORMAL): starting
> ListenSelector..
> May 29, 2004 10:17:32 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Not announcing
> because I am transient.
> May 29, 2004 10:17:37 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-2, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:17:42 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-5, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:17:47 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-3, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:17:53 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-8, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:17:58 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-8, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:03 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-6, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:09 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-3, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:14 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-0, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:19 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-9, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:24 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-4, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:29 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-4, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:34 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-6, NORMAL):
> RouteNotFound Inserting ARK
> May 29, 2004 10:18:39 PM (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YTh

[freenet-support] freenet on Mac OS X 10.3.3

[Paul]

Hi.  I have successfully run freenet on Mac OS X for some time.  
I have downloaded installed the latest 
stable, but when I attempt to start freenet, here is the result:

iMac:~/freenet paul$ sh ./start-freenet.sh 
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m 
freenet.node.Main
Done
iMac:~/freenet paul$ Unrecognized VM option 'MaxDirectMemorySize=128m'
Could not create the Java virtual machine.
iMac:~/freenet paul$

If it helps, here is the result of: java -version:

iMac:~/freenet paul$ java -version 
java version "1.4.2_03"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_03-117.1)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-34, mixed mode)

Could anyone shed light on the problem?

Thanks!

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 26 May 2004 at 9:47, Phillip Hutchings wrote:

> 
> On 26/05/2004, at 9:36 AM, Paul Derbyshire wrote:
> 
> > ... rather than just having one, platform
> > dependent #idfef-filled source file with the appropriate functions
> > duplicated for all the different supported platforms.
> 
> That's the perfect reason to use Java! It may not be the nicest code, 
> but you only have one version! It makes maintainability far easier than 
> #ifdef'd code, which is problematic at best. If one code base runs on 
> all platforms, and even better if the same executable does, then why 
> not use it?

In this case, because the result's performance sucks? Anyway, the 
code to stick the little bunny in the system tray on Windows is a 
system-specific case. And it's probably messier to do system specific 
crap like that from Java than using native code. By the way, making 
the icon a leaping rabbit doesn't actually make the darn thing run 
any faster, you know. :P
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 25 May 2004 at 13:37, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 25 May 2004, Ian Clarke wrote:
> 
> > That is a shame.  Clearly I don't agree with your reasoning, there is no
> > evidence that any other language would not have similar or worse issues
> > (consider the amount of time we would spend dealing with memory leaks
> > and array overflows had we implemented in C++). As for focus,  our
> 
> Not to mention the issues with portability on a C/C++ implementation.

Issues with portability? If we were talking a GUI app I'd agree with 
you, but the core of freenet is basically a pure backend is it not? 
The only visible UI most of the time on Windows is a systray icon or 
the Web interface; the latter's retrieved via HTTP and will work with 
any browser on any OS, and the former is not something Java supports 
directly anyway, so displaying a suitable icon in a suitable 
background-tasks part of the UI is system dependent any way you slice 
it, causing exactly as many portability headaches in Java as it would 
in C or C++ -- maybe more since you probably have to wrestle with the 
hairy JNI to pull it off, rather than just having one, platform 
dependent #idfef-filled source file with the appropriate functions 
duplicated for all the different supported platforms.
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RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5078

[Paul Schauble]

The Freenet I'm running on my Windows machine says it is version 00.5.2.8
(March 14, 2004). How does "build 5078" compare with that?

  thanks

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Subject: [freenet-support] Stable build 5078


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Freenet stable build 5078 is now available. The snapshots have been
updated. All stable branch users should upgrade ASAP.

Changelog:
* Make 5077 mandatory. This is a fairly significant change. 5077 made
  huge changes, including some fundamental changes to how freenet
  routes ("bidirectional routing" - all connected nodes may be routed to);
  for the network to work effectively, we need the whole of stable to be
  running more or less the same code.
* Lots of bugfixes.
* New, cleverer startup script for unix-like systems.
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Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 16 Mar 2004 at 15:29, Mika Hirvonen wrote:

> Paul Derbyshire wrote:
> 
> >What about inline images?
> >  
> >
> Other http:// URLs are automatically converted by fproxy to point to a 
> warning page, so inline images are not displayed.

So freesites can't have images? Or can, if the image URLs point back 
to fproxy rather than a regular web server?
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Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 15 Mar 2004 at 14:10, Mika Hirvonen wrote:

> Michal Charemza wrote:
> 
> > , instead of
> > 
> > Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it 
> > remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page 
> > does have a full doctype tag, why, if
> 
> Yes, because you could harvest the visitors' IP addresses by putting the 
> DTD to your own WWW server and waiting for the visitors' browsers to 
> automatically retrieve it.

What about inline images?
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[freenet-support] Re: E-Mail nicht zustellbar

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 15 Feb 2004 at 18:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Die E-Mail, die Sie am Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:14:02 -0500 an [EMAIL PROTECTED] gesendet 
> haben, konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da die E-Mail Adresse [EMAIL PROTECTED] nicht 
> existiert. Achten Sie auf die richtige Schreibung der E-Mail Adresse und versuchen 
> Sie es erneut. Sollten
Sie wieder diese E-Mail erhalten, vergewissern Sie sich, das der Empfänger (noch) ein 
Mitglied unseres E-Mail Dienstes ist.

Could you please repeat that in English? I don't understand your
followup to my post. (In fact, since you quoted not a word of it I
could only infer it is a response to one of my posts by your having
mailed me a copy.) I guess you thought I could speak what looks like
German for some odd reason -- I'm afraid I must report that I don't
speak a word of it, as a matter of fact; I haven't a clue what gave
you the impression that I did, or why for that matter you'd reply off-
language to an English-language mailing list. In any event the result
is clear: your response has not been understood, and is unlikely to
be by me or most of the others around here save by your repeating it
in a language you know all of us understand. :)
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Re: [freenet-support] routing table

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 13 Feb 2004 at 15:29, Victor Denisov wrote:

> Freeing up RAM is not related to routing table at all. Unfortunately, 
> Freenet code contains a bug (a so called "memory leak") which takes 
> memory from your OS, but then "forgets" about it, not using it and 
> not returning it - so the amount of memory used by your node grows 
> constantly, until you start getting Out Of Memory errors (or OOMs for 
> short).

How the hell is that even *possible*? It's written in a language with 
garbage collecting memory management for chrissake, and the Java GC 
*is* smart enough to collect circular object graphs that have become 
unreachable by running threads. Is it a VM bug or is it just creating 
objects it theoretically could reach (thus they don't get GC'd), but 
ignores forever?
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Re: [freenet-support] Running Freenet as a Windows Service???

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 9 Feb 2004 at 18:52, Your Name wrote:

> > > 2 - I'm using the Internet Connection Firewall bundled with
> > > WinXP  do I need to configure it to work with Freenet?
> > 
> > No, you need to disable it and install a software firewall that can 
> > be trusted, such as the one available for free from
> > www.zonelabs.com. 
> > Making the XP firewall work with things like ICQ doesn't always even 
> > work, for reasons numerous and mysterious, nevermind something like 
> > Freenet. Besides, the XP firewall can't catch spyware and Trojans
> > and self-mailing worms trying to call out without your
> > authorization, and anyway, using it to protect your machine is like
> > using a fox to guard a henhouse.
> 
> Uh, fox... henhouse...  How does this analogy hold up?

Well, there's lots of nasty and unpleasant types out there who don't 
exactly wish your computer the best of health. M$ is one of the 
bigger ones, especially if you run XP, which can be deactivated 
remotely by M$ as well as self-deactivate if too much hardware 
changes at once, or so I've heard.
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Re: [freenet-support] Running Freenet as a Windows Service???

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 9 Feb 2004 at 15:47, Scott Wright wrote:

> 2 - I'm using the Internet Connection Firewall bundled with WinXP  
> do I need to configure it to work with Freenet?

No, you need to disable it and install a software firewall that can 
be trusted, such as the one available for free from www.zonelabs.com. 
Making the XP firewall work with things like ICQ doesn't always even 
work, for reasons numerous and mysterious, nevermind something like 
Freenet. Besides, the XP firewall can't catch spyware and Trojans and 
self-mailing worms trying to call out without your authorization, and 
anyway, using it to protect your machine is like using a fox to guard 
a henhouse.

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Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 29 Jan 2004 at 10:13, Maximilian Mehnert wrote:

> If I had a second life I would help redoing the whole thing in ocaml...

Gezundheit!
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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5064, and the transfer termination attack

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 27 Jan 2004 at 1:58, Toad wrote:

> 2. In some instances, we may want to receive the data. This could maybe
> be determined by unobtanium on the datastore or something.

Unobtanium? :) Rewatched the Core on DVD lately?
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Re: [freenet-support] Problem with Windows (or perhaps Microsoft)

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 21 Jan 2004 at 19:43, Nicholas Sturm wrote:

> Since you announced the last stable release I have been unable to download
> a new release.
> 
> Background:  For about a month I have gotten sporadic replacement of URLs
> by Internet Explorer by the following:
> 
> http://www.marsfind.com/ufts.php?ver=100&uid=00063dc614af4a85aefef19c015d5f3
> d&status=-2146697211
> &query=http%3A%2F%2Fstart.earthlink.net%2F

Can't help with the rest of it, but the above looks suspiciously like 
the sort of thing you might expect some worms, trojans, or spyware to 
do. It's not a site that tries to sell things, by chance, or is 
blasted with advertising? Your IE may have a parasite -- reinstall it 
after uninstalling to remove any trace of the old. Mid-term, turn off 
*#&! Javascript -- it turns your browser into a ticking bomb! Lastly, 
in the long term, do consider moving to Linux eventually.
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Re: [freenet-support] Minor installer warts

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 20 Jan 2004 at 2:27, Toad wrote:

> You run fred on a modem? You have even more patience than I attributed
> to you :)

I thought latency, rather than bandwidth, was the factor most 
requiring patience of people browsing freenet. :)
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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5061

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 18 Jan 2004 at 18:00, Troed Sångberg wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:44:31 +, Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > number of RNFs and increases the chance of finding data, but it may also
> > increase the overall network load.. we may have taken it too far in the
> > other direction in 5060. The only local cost is that it may take longer
> > for requests to fail.
>
> Freenet is _very_ slow here with 5061 compared to 5060. I get loads of
> "Got a really late Datareply" and I also have to restart the node often 
> due to OutOfMemory exceptions.
>
> Can't comment on reachability vs 5060 - haven't done a thorough
> investigation.

5061 does seem to want more mem. My node keeps growing to around 100-
150M now, which means I have to turn it off to do some other memory-
intensive tasks, such as play Quake.
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Re: [freenet-support] Latest build: 5070 ??

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 18 Jan 2004 at 5:24, S wrote:

> Anyone can change the "latest build number" by editing Version.java and
> compiling the source on their machine. If you were so inclined, you
> could change your "latest build number" to  and confuse a whole lot
> of people. Apparently someone has compiled their own copy of Freenet and
> changed their version number to 5070.
> 
> Ignore 5070. The latest Stable build is 5061, and all official releases
> are announced on this list. If you don't see an announcement here, any
> higher version numbers are either CVS experimental builds, or someone
> playing tricks.

Perhaps nodes shouldn't be generating that message based on the 
reported version numbers of other nodes, but on an "official" latest-
stable-version counter retrieved from freenet.sourceforge.org?
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[freenet-support] Minor installer warts

[Paul Derbyshire]

Got around to updating to 5061. Installer wart is as follows: when it 
reaches its own executable it pops up something I thought had gone 
the way of the dodo (and MS-DOS): "abort, retry, ignore". Abort is 
rather drastic, and retry can't possibly work, so you have to ignore. 
The installer should automatically skip itself.

This is easily worked around but could confuse some new users and 
shows lack of polish. Normally installer problems are automatically 
serious as the lack of polish is present from the user's first 
impression with the software, but in this case it only will occur the 
2nd and subsequent times the installer is run. :)

This therefore only rates a 1 on the 1 to 5 Sanjay-Tarantino scale of 
bug severity (bugs that bring down the host operating system rating a 
5, of course).

Or does it? If the installer itself needs updating there could be a 
problem. To make the installer updatable, the installer needs to 
"chain". The algorithm in widest use is for the installer to have two 
stages: the first fetches the second from a fixed location, then 
launches this and quits. The second installs everything else 
including a fresh version of the first if necessary. Since the first 
has quit, the second can overwrite it. When the first overwrites the 
second it succeeds since the second hasn't run yet. :)

On a related note, the installer seems unable to automate shutting 
down the node so it can overwrite with new files, even though it has 
no problem starting it back up again after. Requiring user 
intervention at this stage seems unnecessary and is another potential 
source of error that can easily be eliminated. Many web-updatable 
apps I've used take already-running instances in stride, and more 
than a few even update themselves automatically or with only a 
"there's a newer version available. Download and install? Yes, 
Cancel" dialog. My current operating system is one of them. :)
This doesn't really rate as a bug at all, but it is one more rough 
edge in the installer that can be smoothed over. (Again, it won't 
show up the very first time you run the web updater, so it doesn't 
give a bad first impression, reducing its already-cosmetic priority.)

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[freenet-support] Odd failure(?) mode, and updating.

[Paul Derbyshire]

You may remember me as the one who had problems with fproxy that 
proved to be brain-dead IE defaults. Turns out fproxy and my node are 
working fine, and the node gets around 1 request a second suggesting 
it's integrating way better than the freesite of evil keeps bitching 
about. :)

Reachability of stuff browsed through the interface seems to improve 
as it gels into the network.

Then this AM there was an incident, which happened to catch me in 
front of the keyboard. It was hard not to notice, since the whole 
system became largely unresponsive. For whatever reason, my node had 
spawned over 5000 new threads in a matter of seconds and bloated to 
take up much more RAM and most of the CPU, forcing me to restart the 
service from the tray menu. Hopefully enough is cached between 
sessions that this won't seriously compromise the node's integration.

I have a number of new questions, none of which the FAQ will answer.
1. What caused this? I've heard of some versions grabbing a lot of 
system resources when inserting certain kinds of keys locally through 
FCP, but not spontaneously or as a result of requests. Can it happen 
when some kinds of keys are inserted by just propagating to your 
node? Was it trying to upload and store a large file, maybe one that 
came in 5000 asynchronous fragments? Pathological behavior that 
cripples the host system until the node is restarted manually, 
possibly then hurting the network by interrupting what would have 
been an important task for others or by setting back the "integration 
clock" on your node is, IMO, bad. Thread, CPU, and memory use may 
need to be throttleable as bandwidth currently is. (The same applies 
double to the gnutella client I run, though, which frequently bloats 
up to 2000 threads and uses way more ram than the freenet node under 
normal circumstances -- i.e. normal for the node AND the gnutella 
client. :))
2. Is this already addressed by the update?
3. How do you install the update, short of opening Explorer and 
painstakingly navigating your way to the Freenet install directory 
under Program Files to run the updater? Update is a logical item for 
the tray menu on Win32, but it's not there; failing that it's a 
logical button for the configure tool's main tab, but it's not there 
either. [While on the subject, the configure tool needs a cooler name 
and a cross-platform rather than MFC implementation. I suggest a 
lightweight C++/GTK app and a name of FreeConfigurator. :)]
4. My machine seems to get a new IP address every so often, 
automagically, and not just after a reboot. How well will the node 
handle that?:
  a. Will it start screwing up if the IP changes mid-session and have 
to be manually restarted? How to detect this or better yet, automate 
it? Short of restarting it on a fixed schedule, which would probably 
be bad. Or will it discover the new ip for itself? Perhaps as long as 
it works OK without uncommenting and changing the ipAddress line in 
freenet.ini it will cope automatically?
  b. How bad an effect on the network will the dynamic IP have, 
especially if it requires periodic node restarts beyond the usual 
"Windows had a cerebral embolism in its atrophied and still largely 
16-bit brain; time to reboot again, sigh" situations?
I'd rather avoid the dyndns.org service that I was shocked to find 
pimped in a comment in the configuration file. Shocked, because of 
this from its Click-through Terms of Service Of The Week(tm by 
Microsoft who pioneered the practise):

"The Member will not use the Service for illegal software, junk
pornography, spamming or any use of distribution lists to any person
who has not given specific permission to be included in such a
process.  The Member agrees not to transmit through the service any
unlawful, harassing, libelous, abusive, threatening, harmful,
vulgar, obscene or otherwise objectionable material of any kind or
nature...The Member further agrees not to transmit any material that
encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense, give
rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any applicable local,
state, national, or international law or regulation."

This seems implacably hostile to using dyndns to point to a freenet 
node! By its nature a freenet node makes it difficult but not 
impossible for its operator to know what is being "transmitted 
through the service", and impossible for the operator to control it. 
Of course, it's hard to prove that "junk pornography" (and just how 
in the hell is that defined, and why does dyndns take it upon itself 
to dictate sexual mores like it was some 19th century church?) and so 
on is really in your store, but the node operator is put in an 
uncomfortable position. If they truly honor the above agreement 
rather than ignoring it, they must use all means at their disposal to 
at least try to determine and control what flows through their node 
and resides i

Re: [freenet-support] New node not working..."500 server error" from 127.0.0.1:8888.

[Paul Derbyshire]

On 15 Jan 2004 at 5:54, S wrote:

> telnet 127.0.0.1 
> 
> Hit Enter. When the connection opens, type:
> 
> HEAD / HTTP/1.0

Had to blind-type this -- nothing echoed.

> HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 05:43:59 GMT
> Pragma: no-cache
> Location: /servlet/nodeinfo/
> Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
> Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0
> Connection: close
> Content-length: 191
> Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1
> Server: Fred 0.5 (build 5060) HTTP Servlets

Bingo. Right down to the build number.

> Probably transparent proxying. Yuck. Still shouldn't affect localhost,
> though. Have you checked your browser configuration to see if
> 66.185.84.80 has been explicitly defined as a proxy? If so, assuming IE,
> is "Bypass proxy for local addresses" checked?

I never changed the browser configuration when I went from dial-up to 
cable. Then again, since it is a Microsoft product, maybe it's going 
around changing things behind my back and exercising more autonomy 
than it should. I'll check...
All there is in LAN settings (which I assume will be used for 
anything going through the network card, including cable inet) is 
"automatically detect settings". There's a "bypass proxy server for 
local addresses" option, but checking it would require taking off 
"automatically detect settings" and setting who knows what else to 
make normal Web browsing work again.

Why on earth is this proving to be so complicated... *sigh* No other 
p2p software I've got has had the slightest hiccup associated with 
the transition to cable -- the speed boost and stabler connections 
are all they seem to notice. :)

Also, browsing locally hasn't been affected before, now that I think 
of it. Several things on my system have documentation in plain-jane 
HTML, notably GTKRadiant, and those render OK in IE. Seems like it 
has no problem with static local content, only local services on 
loopback?

Lastly, is this port  being exposed to the Internet going to pose 
a security risk, or is the fproxy service reasonably robust against 
the usual things, e.g. buffer overflow exploits. The only thing I can 
imagine being more trouble than an exposed and exploitable service 
opening a port on my machine is an exposed and exploitable service 
whose port on my machine is reachable from every other box on the net 
except mine, rendering me blind to whatever's going on in there. :)
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[freenet-support] New node not working..."500 server error" from 127.0.0.1:8888.

[Paul Derbyshire]

Got the windows webinstall executable and ran it less than 2 hours 
ago. Node may or may not be running ok, but fproxy is definitely on 
the blink. Looked at (without altering) the options, and nothing is 
obviously bad, such as say fproxy being turned off.

Symptom:

Server Error
The following error occurred:
Bad URL 


--
--
Please contact the administrator. 

at 127.0.0.1: in ie 6.x. I know my ISP (cable) has some sort of 
wonky caching of web pages, as evidenced by intermittent random 500-
series errors I never got on dial-up and the odd out-of-date page 
coming up but not when I hit "refresh". But their webcache shouldn't 
affect loopback, should it?

Which suggests maybe a NAT router/firewall issue, save that I don't 
have any real reason to believe I even have one. The installer 
brought a cable modem of the Toshiba brand, and that's it. If it has 
a built-in NAT router it's less than obvious how to configure it in 
the manner the FAQ suggests, given that the sole UI the device 
provides is about half a dozen blinking lights. Of course, there's 
the network status icon in the systray...

It reveals an IP address of 24.192.41.163, and since nothing is 
firewalling external connections on weird ports as evidenced by being 
able to play Quake over this connection, maybe nothing else needs be 
configured save to manually put this in the freenet.ini. That, and 
change it every week, since it doesn't seem to be stable on longer 
timescales, even without a reboot.

Tried that and no go. So I subscribe reluctantly to Yet Another 
Mailing List and lo! and behold,

"Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list 
Support

We have received a request from 66.185.84.80 for subscription..."

66.185.what?! That's not the IP Windows is reporting. Some kind of 
NAT is going on, then. (Weirdly, this hasn't stopped people being 
able to connect to a Quake server if I host one and tell them the 
24.somethingorother IP...maybe separate addresses for incoming and 
outgoing data?)

Anyway, something needs to be done here and I'm afraid I don't know 
what. Putting the 66.whatever address in the freenet.ini didn't do 
beans, at least on its own, and communicating some kind of port 
forwarding information to this cable modem seems impossible, unless 
it can be done either by
a) staring at the blinking lights until the modem is hypnotised, then 
using a post-hypnotic suggestion that a port be forwarded or
b) somehow launching the configuration tool for the modem driver 
despite the minor niggling problem of this tool's not existing and 
the driver's also not existing, and then finding the "port 
forwarding" tab, which presumably also doesn't exist, and entering 
some numbers and mumblety-peg in it before clicking the (nonexistent, 
no doubt) "ok" button.
Any suggestions?

While we're at it, two niggling issues:
1. Once you've accessed the right click menu on the freenet tray 
icon, the tooltip status indication can no longer be made to present 
itself by any amount of mouse hovering -- I think it ran out of fuel 
and crashed into the little bunny rabbit making an unholy mess before 
I gave up. :)
2. The Web site has a couple minor issues, and a major one, which is 
that at the bottom of the tools page the link titled "here" for 
contributing ideas is a 
big fat 404. Finding and identifying the minor issues is left as an 
exercise for 
the reader.

I also want to note here that the listserv's confirmation URLs are 
too long for 
at least one popular mail client to handle correctly, forcing the 
manual copy 
and paste method that nobody likes. In future, please send 
confirmation URLs that are no longer than 95 characters. I doubt the 
one I got (103 characters) honestly needed to be *quite* that long 
and still do its job. :)
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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

[Paul]

On Sat, Nov 1, 2003 at 14:10:43 +0800, Toad wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 10:31:58PM -0800, Paul wrote:
 I see the installation of Freenet and the configuration of Freenet to
 be an area that needs serious attention.
 First, I use Freenet on a Mac, but Mac OS X is not shown anymore as a
 compatible OS on the Freenet web site download page. It used to be
 there, but not anymore. I know to use the Linux download and
 instructions, but the only reason I know that is because the web site
 used to state this. A new user will likely not realize this.
 Second, the install process needs to be easier. Yes, installing
 Freenet is as simple as copying over a handful of files, but a
 single-click install program is very nice. The Mac .pkg format is
 simple and effective, and it allows scripts to be included and run
 during the installation process.
Care to volunteer? I don't have a Mac to develop a package on.
I had a feeling you might ask that. While I can program, I just do 
not have the time right now to learn the specifics of how to do this, 
and then do it. The time investment goes beyond doing this once. I'd 
have to do it for every single release. And at the rate they are 
coming these days, that's a huge amount of time.

 >
 Third, configuring Freenet is a major pain. Right now, in order to
 copy over my few custom .conf file settings, I have to first fake out
 Freenet into thinking that it is running for the first time so it
 creates a new .conf file with default settings. Then I bring up both
 the new .conf file and the old one in a text editor, and go through
 each setting, line by line, an copy over my custom settings into then
 new .conf file.
Why can't you just copy over the old .conf file? Any settings that
haven't been overridden will be commented out and therefore the node
will use the default settings.
Problem with this is that I then have no idea what the new options 
are. I might want to, or need to, tweak the new options.

 >
 If each new update of Freenet would be able to read in the last
 version's .conf file, add new options to it, that would be a good
 start.
There is an option to do this.
Yeah, but it uses the command line which is what I'd like to get away 
from completely. Command-line = very difficult usability

 >
 An even better improvement would be a nice GUI tool to edit and
 maintain all of Freenet's configuration options.
We have thought about doing it via the web interface. We don't want
actual GUI code in the main Fred tree.
A web interface would be great and be very universal. Is this comming soon?

 >
 Fourth, starting and stopping Freenet is a pain. I have to bring up
 the Terminal, and type in a command line to start and stop Freenet.
 This is extremely un-Mac-like and you will loose 99% of your
 potential users when they see that they HAVE to use the command line
 to get Freenet to run. A simple double-clickable icon is what people
 want.
Well, Mac users are probably 5% of our target market (linux about 30%
and the rest windows), probably. It would be nice to have a proper
package.
Linux and Mac OS X are, at the low-level, the same: UNIX  It's just 
that Apple has put a great set of API extensions on top of it to 
create the easiest to use OS available. So if usability improvements 
are made in a universal way that also works under Linux, then both 
the Mac users and Linux users would benefit. That's 35% of Freenet 
users.

Is there anything like Fink (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fink/) 
in the Linux world? With the addition of the GUI tool, Fink 
Commander, Fink is just usable on the Mac. If there was a compatible 
tool under Linux, you might be able to unify the Mac OS X and Linux 
Freenet packge.

Another usability suggestion to help Mac users: Mac OS X does not 
come with "wget". So the "update-freenet.sh" script will not run. Mac 
OS X does include "curl" which I think is similar to "wget". Any 
chance of having the update script use "curl" incase "wget" is not 
installed?

 >
 All of these could easily be done on the Mac with an Applescript
 Studio type application. I've seen people write a really good GUI
 front-end to command line programs in a matter of days with
 Applescript Studio.
 Linux would also benefit from all of the above improvements.

 The first impression of Freenet is the install and configuration
 process. Right now this process gives a new user a distinctly
 negative impression of Freenet. This impression just gets worse when
 they run it for the first time and can't load any sites. But that's a
 whole other discussion...
 Paul
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[freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

[Paul]

I see the installation of Freenet and the configuration of Freenet to 
be an area that needs serious attention.

First, I use Freenet on a Mac, but Mac OS X is not shown anymore as a 
compatible OS on the Freenet web site download page. It used to be 
there, but not anymore. I know to use the Linux download and 
instructions, but the only reason I know that is because the web site 
used to state this. A new user will likely not realize this.

Second, the install process needs to be easier. Yes, installing 
Freenet is as simple as copying over a handful of files, but a 
single-click install program is very nice. The Mac .pkg format is 
simple and effective, and it allows scripts to be included and run 
during the installation process.

Third, configuring Freenet is a major pain. Right now, in order to 
copy over my few custom .conf file settings, I have to first fake out 
Freenet into thinking that it is running for the first time so it 
creates a new .conf file with default settings. Then I bring up both 
the new .conf file and the old one in a text editor, and go through 
each setting, line by line, an copy over my custom settings into then 
new .conf file.

If each new update of Freenet would be able to read in the last 
version's .conf file, add new options to it, that would be a good 
start.

An even better improvement would be a nice GUI tool to edit and 
maintain all of Freenet's configuration options.

Fourth, starting and stopping Freenet is a pain. I have to bring up 
the Terminal, and type in a command line to start and stop Freenet. 
This is extremely un-Mac-like and you will loose 99% of your 
potential users when they see that they HAVE to use the command line 
to get Freenet to run. A simple double-clickable icon is what people 
want.

All of these could easily be done on the Mac with an Applescript 
Studio type application. I've seen people write a really good GUI 
front-end to command line programs in a matter of days with 
Applescript Studio.

Linux would also benefit from all of the above improvements.

The first impression of Freenet is the install and configuration 
process. Right now this process gives a new user a distinctly 
negative impression of Freenet. This impression just gets worse when 
they run it for the first time and can't load any sites. But that's a 
whole other discussion...

Paul


Message: 5
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:37:27 +
From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
To: Discussion of development issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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As the developers work hard to improve the core operation of Freenet, it
can be easy to forget about the more superficial, but equally important
aspects of Freenet, namely installation procedures, and usability for
newbies.
For those intimately familiar with Freenet's operation it can be
difficult to look at Freenet's operation from the perspective of someone
new to the software, and often something that seems minor and trivial to
a core developer, might have a significant impact on a new user's view
of the software.
So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive
criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be
enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.
Ian.
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[freenet-support] possible Freenet bug

[Paul Twohey]

I tried to use the sourceforge bug system linked off the freenet page, but
it said I didn't have enough permission, thus I'm mailing this list. I'm
not subscribed so please CC any replies.

I looked in my freenet log and it appears freenet stopped working
due to some sort of java exception. I can mail interested parties the log.
I'm running a MacOS X 10.2.3 machine. uname -a gives:

Darwin gandalf 6.3 Darwin Kernel Version 6.3: Sat Dec 14 03:11:25 PST 2002; 
root:xnu/xnu-344.23.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc

The last bit of my log is as follows:

Jan 22, 2003 4:59:52 AM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
QThread-296): Found 3 announcement targets for this node.
Jan 23, 2003 11:57:26 AM (freenet.node.states.request.TransferReply,
QThread-1972): Failed to send data with CB 0x83 (CB_RECV_CONN_DIED), on
chain 588e19f5217b6a0c
Jan 23, 2003 4:01:17 PM
(freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl, Finalizer): Please
close() me manually in finalizer: Key:
6917d5b4ed12a38215b2a5cb69db224c5b71371a0f0203 Buffer:
freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory$ExternalNativeBuffer@52845a New: true ( 0
of 1025 read)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: unclosed
at
freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.finalize(FSDataStoreElement.java:312)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.invokeFinalizeMethod(Native Method)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.runFinalizer(Finalizer.java:81)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.access$100(Finalizer.java:12)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:158)
===
StateChain started at Thu Jan 23 16:00:56 PST 2003
Current state: Request Done @ 33a8cf5568087901
===
Jan 23, 2003 6:22:45 PM (freenet.node.states.request.TransferReply,
QThread-3086): Failed to send data with CB 0x83 (CB_RECV_CONN_DIED), on
chain fe3839716e6a5051
Jan 23, 2003 6:25:51 PM (freenet.node.states.request.TransferReply,
QThread-3059): Failed to send data with CB 0x83 (CB_RECV_CONN_DIED), on
chain 261faf20fade703e
Jan 23, 2003 7:20:21 PM
(freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl, Finalizer): Please
close() me manually in finalizer: Key:
241a86eb48a7900cc2e22ef953c64c19493d69770f0203 Buffer:
freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory$ExternalNativeBuffer@253237 New: true ( 0
of 1025 read)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: unclosed
at
freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.finalize(FSDataStoreElement.java:312)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.invokeFinalizeMethod(Native Method)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.runFinalizer(Finalizer.java:81)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.access$100(Finalizer.java:12)
at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:158)
===
StateChain started at Thu Jan 23 19:20:00 PST 2003
Current state: Request Done @ 2139a38c993ef1de
===


Paul Twohey
twohey@csua

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[freenet-support] paypal

[Paul Ellison]

Only had 2 dollars in my acct. - Freenet deserves 
something because I LOVE the idea and CHALLENGE of it all.  
 
I love it.  
 
More later. 
 
Paul
 

[freenet-support] High load problems

[Paul Makepeace]

I was curious whether it's normal to see consistently extremely high
loads (30+, I've seen 15min averages over 90!) on freenet nodes. It's
configured to have 50incoming connection limit and is frequently at
that limit.

I'm running it on a dual p3-600 with a single 10K SCSI disk as its
datastore. Version: 0.3.9.1-1 Debian with the IBM JDK: java version
"1.3.0" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.0)
Classic VM (build 1.3.0, J2RE 1.3.0 IBM build cx130-20010329 (JIT
enabled: jitc))

Cheers,
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[freenet-support] Update needed to page=stable for Debian package

[Paul Makepeace]

The link on the Download page
http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=stable
to the Debian package should be 

http://download.sourceforge.net/freenet/freenet_0.3.9.1-1_all.deb

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RE:[freenet-support] "THE" question

[Paul Boren]

There is a version 0.3.9.1 of Freenet that works for Windows ME.
Just go to the website below and download the FreenetJview and
FreenetSetup files.
The installation that follows is a snap even if you can't read Chinese.
Thanks for all the support.

P.S. :FProxy

tech wrote:

> FreenetJview.zip is a package with the setup files set to work
> with microsoft version of Java. The interface has been translated into
> Chinese. It can run off a floppy. It can be downloaded from
> http://freenet-china.org/freenet/download
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wu
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [freenet-support] question
>
> Dear sir:
> Where has The FreenetJview.zip for downloading?
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Re: [freenet-support] Latest Installation

[Paul Boren]

After downloading the Sun JRE 1.3.0_02, I used the Windows Installer to
setup version 0.3.8.1 of Freenet.
Over the past month or so I have been using a dial up connection to FProxy
successfully.
Although I have encountered the problems commonly associated with the
Windows Mellenium OS, it ran quite well.

Last week I downloaded version 0.3.9.1 and caught a quick glance of the new
FProxy page.
I was unable to access the Snarfoo site, so I quit the application with the
hope that it would work after re-booting.
>From that point on I observed what has been previously reported.

When double-clicking on the desktop icon, the bunny appeared in task bar
flashing a red hash bar on top of it.
A click of the mouse gave the message: "Freenet is having problems".
I tried un-installing and downloading the latest version again because I
had read that an essential file was corrupted or missing.
Now it no longer gives the error message, but it still will not access the
local host server.
Also the "Configure" shortcut in unavailable.

Should I copy the previous executable file over?
Right now I would rather patiently await the new features than go back.
Let me know how I can help.

P.S.I think that it's great that Freenet is now available in other
languages.




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