one just stumbles upin
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You've never heard of google?
Which leads you to the primary sources he mentioned. So why mention google?
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less obvious. But the root issue
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I can't forget where I am,
these are not just to be pretty, they're definitely part of the work environment.
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indicates it is in Windows
Defender which I thought I had disabled. I will check further.
Windows thinks it should be running, therefore if you disable it you get
punished with silly messages. I wish I was kidding, AFAIK I'm not, the problem
is not your alone (Google).
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
Bill Davidsen schrieb:
Not complaining, but your answer sounds a lot like we're doing it now
in a much less efficient way, but look how fast we do it.
Well, then it sounds wrong. What he probably wanted to say is that the
redesigned profile handling we inherited from
post.
The problem needs a new title I haven't studied preferences and config
carefully. You can get the behavior you want, you just have to ask for it.
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I'm not use to SM crashing. I've had more crashes with SM 2 in the last
couple of days than I had with SM 1 from the very start a period of
about 3-4 years. I'm use to SM being almost as reliable as the operating
system.
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we're seeing a very long delay vs. a short delay. Not
complaining, but your answer sounds a lot like we're doing it now in a much
less efficient way, but look how fast we do it. Like recoding a bubble sort to
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Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll
indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click
in the scroll region the indicator and display move
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll
indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle
click in the scroll region the indicator
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll
indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click
in the scroll region the indicator and display move to that spot.
Useful so I can move around. In 2.0.1 the same
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maintain.
If I might offer a suggestion, if there was better documentation on writing
extensions, the interfaces available to be used, some of these problems might be
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basically converted it to another
application entirely.
I object to this. SeaMonkey 1.1.x is very usable without extensions.
In general I agree with that, other than a few media bits needed to play various
streaming media, SM 1.1.xx runs fine.
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, bad, and unexpected. I
have no problem with the warning, if it scares off someone who should be scared
off, good. If it prevents one you never told me whine on the list, good on
that too.
I would like a command line option for reset config to default to tell users
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It's the first thing that I install in SeaMonkey.
Also see:
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other programs and writing a book, I will really test drive the two extensions I
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Lou wrote:
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Most of the time I want M to start over clean, and forget all the stuff
I might have been doing, but occasionally I want to preserve the
context. I have noticed that if I should down I get an empty restart,
and if I kill the application I get context preserved
Smiles wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Smiles wrote:
The first part, =?ISO-2022-JP? defines the character st. If you have
that set installed you would then see the subject in clear text.
Unless you read Japanese you you not understand it any better, but at
least it would be clear.
I don't
z3c wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:28 pm, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
@Bill, well there are some internal company aliases but no mailinglist
as in announcement list .
Okay, I have a lot of lists, car nuts, gun nuts, politics
{world,nations,state,local}, jokes{funny,offensive}, medical
Phillip Jones wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
---snip---
* When inserting images, don't make the the default Alternate
text (I *never, ever* use that) - or else don't force making a
choice.
I would just really like to see this as an option. This is more
annoying
context and shutdown feature I can use within SM?
Also, is there a way to specify the starting position of windows rather than use
the window manager default?
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Smiles wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Smiles wrote:
Good day
one of my email accounts is being hit by over 20 emails daily with ?
marks of different length in subject and sender field. if I save one
as text it is blank, so I set up a filter up to send all to trash by
setting from value
Jens Hatlak wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Jens Hatlak wrote:
OTOH the average user won't have to care about the two prefs that
caused the problem here once the bug fix is available as part of the
next release.
Do you have any idea how elitist that sounds?
Maybe you just got me wrong, please
by deleting and recreating my lists in a book, but I can't
remember details, one of those fix it and forget it days.
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, but would be neat.
* When inserting images, don't make the the default Alternate
text (I *never, ever* use that) - or else don't force making a
choice.
I would just really like to see this as an option. This is more annoying in
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old version for reading these groups and filling out forms.
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leave it on for a bit and see how it wears, buf handy with a large number of feeds.
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them with 2.0.
There are posting issues with 2.0. They are fixed in 2.0.1, there was a patch
associated with the BZ thread on problems with authenticating servers.
Yes it was a real bug, there's a patch. ;-)
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Mail/News gets stuck (RSS
fetching for example) Camino sails on. Mac only, Firefox does as well on
Windows.
By the way, are you spoofing your UA?
Lee
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Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:56:34 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
I have been running 2.0.1pre for a while to get the fix for NNTP posting
badness. Now I'm told there's a security upgrade to 2.0.2pre. Is there any
intention of releasing 2.01 before adding a bunch of new untested
would
be useful. Running Linux I can do that filtering upstream of the user agent, so
I just see it as a crap count in rejects.
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Like many people who don't quite understand the NNTP protocol and
equate it to mail or web or mailing list or something they thought up,
you are confusing DELETE (move to trash or just erase) with CANCEL
(send NNTP CANCEL message, attempt
profiles in
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chicagofan wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
chicagofan wrote:
That's strange, because these [below] were the instructions I received
by e-mail, after I wrote them about my connection problems after the
changeover from Motzarella. These instructions cleared up my problem:
It will connect
Lucas Levrel wrote:
Le 26 novembre 2009, Bill Davidsen a écrit :
Lucas Levrel wrote:
Le 20 novembre 2009, Bill Davidsen a écrit :
Handling multiple forms per URL, covering all filled fields, would be
perfect for almost any use. And if there was only one saved form for a
URL, autofill might
Lucas Levrel wrote:
Le 20 novembre 2009, Bill Davidsen a écrit :
Handling multiple forms per URL, covering all filled fields, would be
perfect for almost any use. And if there was only one saved form for a
URL, autofill might be the right interface.
Are you sure Form Autofill cannot save
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ISP directories, or you will have a
restore from backup event.
When/if you move to SeaMonkey 2.0 you have a whole new problem with migration,
ask a detailed question when you're ready.
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Anyone know where to save so If the need arises you can.
Did you go to the sent folder, click 'edit as new,' and send? Or is there
another sequence you are using?
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choice in the list), but it's not the checkbox, it's the menu about 1/3 down the
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chicagofan wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
chicagofan wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
In hopes of someone having a clue where 'elsewhere' might be I put
up the
screenshots. I think it points to an error inside SM2 that this
happens only
on this server which doesn't demand authentication, and one
Jens Hatlak wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Thanks for the info, now the next question is why it works for anyone
with the official 2.0 release.
Bug 484656 comment 18 suggests that only people with a
mail.server.serverX.realhostname pref are affected. I for one have no
account with such a pref
to pull it in. Other than that, if it's small you start typing address
cards. If it's big you write a perl script to convert the format you have to the
format you want. Don't know perl or other suitable language? Make a friend, you
make too many mistakes doing it by hand.
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chicagofan wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
NoOp wrote:
I do notice in your
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that
your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to
post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'?
NNTP= SMTP
Jens Hatlak wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
It seems that a fix is available for this problem, assuming you are
willing to build your own SeaMonkey from source. Bug #484656 seems to
change the You have your config wrong to we were parsing your config
wrong. In any case the problem is identified
user-friendly way for most people. ;-)
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Rumors that VZ did this so they could more easily collect your data for the
government are unsubstantiated.
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It would be better to advise people to bug the author than disable the check, it
smacks of taking the battery out of the smoke alarm, it will ignore the backon,
but won't work when you need it most.
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bookmarks, mailing addresses, and passwords which are common to all profiles,
for stuff I do all the time.
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Bill Davidsen wrote:
I have put my full config up as screen shots:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/
Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than
always offer auth my working server definitions, those without auth
needed, are identical.
I have
book), I just
don't want to print them.
Don't know about the Windows version, but on the Linux version I can Forward as
inline and edit out what I don't want to see, then just print the text.
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and error prone. Handling multiple forms per URL, covering all filled fields,
would be perfect for almost any use. And if there was only one saved form for a
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/release-notes.html#v34_feat
Is less convenient really a feature, or am I misreading that? Does making it
more time consuming to report a bug improve something?
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Phillip Jones wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Jens Hatlak wrote:
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
The procedure for composing in HTML for a single message (as opposed to
all messages) appears to have changed from 1.1.x. However, the 2.0 Help
file still refers to 1.1.x procedures as follows:
If while
account. An email account cannot post using NNTP.
Daniel
Okay, I'm saving this as a draft, where?
Answer: in the Drafts folder in Local. Now I shall hit SEND.
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resist.
Sigh, doesn't look like SM can do news: URLs, either. Telnet is my friend, as is
the NNTP protocol hand typed. Viewing that article could be hard for people with
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Hartmut Figge wrote:
Bill Davidsen:
I think I've said several times, I monitored the network interface with tcpdump,
and no packets were passed,
OK.
the UA
SM.
rejected the request with the message seen, Check your config
SM refuses to send with this message.
which is correct
?
Bugzilla fluent members who can verify and report this SM 2.0 bug would
be appreciated. Thanks.
In what mode? News? Mail? HTML or plain text, fixed width font?
I don't see this looking quickly, but details are needed, since all of those
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? Or just looking for an alternative?
I'm stuck at 1.1.18 unless a form manager is restored, clicking on every field
of a complex form just isn't a good use of my time.
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Correct, this option is new. However, it does not replace the other
option, it is just a new alternative.
Greetings,
Jens
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NoOp wrote:
On 11/13/2009 06:04 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and authenticate.
After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server.
Perhaps you missed:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Bill Davidsen:
Does this extra information give anyone a clue?
You should really provide a log of what happens between SM2 and eternal
when you try to post. One possibility is ngrep. Another one is
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
I think I've said several
Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
with seamonkey 2
Your user agent certainly claims you can:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
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NoOp wrote:
On 11/11/2009 02:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
I have put my full config up as screen shots:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/
Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than
always offer auth my working server definitions, those without
.
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On 11/03/2009 09:34 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
NoOp wrote:
...
So not sure what the issue could be on your system. However, for the
sake of keeping this thread to a minimum, I'll be happy to test other
scenarios if you'll contact me directly (just drop the .invalid from the
email
to the top (may be a config thing
like inobvious.option.makePasswordPromptVisible). It doesn't pop a box, grab
focus, and does all it can to be hard to find.
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Hartmut Figge wrote:
Bill Davidsen:
What do you mean by haven't even answered? In response to your suggestion I
posted the link to screen dumps showing all the trials, including testing with
that suggested value set (and the about:config page up in one image), was
something missing from them
of value sets for the same form will continue to use 1.1.18. At least
until Chrome gets the new form manager.
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JAS wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Martin Freitag wrote:
me2 schrieb:
I downloaded and installed the extension, its better than nothing, but
I suspect I am not in a minority in missing the original from manger.
having to add something like Roboform seems to defeat the original
concept
I have put my full config up as screen shots:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/
Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than
always offer auth my working server definitions, those without auth
needed, are identical.
I have Fails for me about 2:1
Martin Freitag wrote:
Bill Davidsen schrieb:
Martin Freitag wrote:
Hu? Strange...maybe you need to restart SM, not sure about that.
Does you Addon-Manager show that warning bar that compatibility check
has been disabled?
Otherwise grab the xpi from there, save it on your HDD, unzip
* then.
regards
Unfortunately you now seem to get to do this in every field, as opposed to
having the whole form filled in at once. Hope the suggested extension provides
something closer to useful, I have to handle multiple response sets to the same
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Leonidas Jones wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Martin Freitag wrote:
Rufus schrieb:
William Morrison wrote:
I noticed a problem of email containing a lot of graphics not loading
in completely on the first viewing. I get mail from a group on
multiply.com group, Kodak
NoOp wrote:
On 11/01/2009 05:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
NoOp wrote:
...
Not sure what the issue might be Bill. I've migrated 4 machines (linux)
from 1.1.18 to 2.0 and _all_ have no issues accessing
news.eternal-september.org (port 563/SSL). I've 2 test machines that
have yet to be migrated
NoOp wrote:
On 10/31/2009 09:12 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Server: news.eternal-september.org
Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png
And my first test post to this server failed silently
NoOp wrote:
On 10/30/2009 02:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Server: news.eternal-september.org
Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png
And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Server: news.eternal-september.org
Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message:
http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png
And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH?
NOTE: since tested on another server
process, it should NOT be
turning on authenticate.
I thought I posted that thought yesterday, but it hasn't shown up... :-(
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, block image, block pop-up, enough to suggest a single block stuff
panel might be useful, even if it duplicated functionality available already.
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but there is no from option
in the filter is there a work around?
thanks :)
Is there a 'custom header' they set, on which you can select?
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favorite
distribution, then build. I keep a directory which I use to share stuff, NFS
mount it from the VM. The install is slow, but it will complete, the compile
will work, and running SM-x86_64 will work and be at least as fast as some old
computers I have owned.
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first.
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the same-sort-of JavaScript-page-code as
www.tvguide.com/Listings.
I only mentioned it, because when you click-on a show/program,it has the
same sort of JavaScript-pop-up synopsis (that WFM).
Quote:
NoOp wrote:
On 10/27/2009 07:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Click on the name of a show, in Firefox 3.5
with the modern platform of Firefox 3.5 to create one of
the most compelling open source products for advanced Internet users.
As Ralph Kramden used to say, How suite it is! I doubt anyone under 50 knows
who he was...
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2.0 but I haven't
had the time yet. You could try that and let me know if it still works.
Try these:
http://users.skynet.be/fa258499/extensions.html
Thank you!
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, since it's the same form with MANY fields changed.
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