Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-22 Thread Ray_Net
Ed Mullen wrote, On 22/04/2013 02:36: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I tried the current version of Blue Griffon but it's lacking a couple of SeaMonkey Composer features like uploading and it's doesn't learn like SM so doing repetitive tasks takes a lot of clicking. Seamonkey is by far the easiest

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-22 Thread Ed Mullen
Ray_Net wrote: Ed Mullen wrote, On 22/04/2013 02:36: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I tried the current version of Blue Griffon but it's lacking a couple of SeaMonkey Composer features like uploading and it's doesn't learn like SM so doing repetitive tasks takes a lot of clicking. Seamonkey is by

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-22 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Ed Mullen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Good idea, but i have seen in BlueGriffon that the project manager IS NOT FREE, so you have to pay for it. And because i feel that uploading the modified pages will only work with the BlueGriffon Project Manager . :-) Why would you feel that? Use a

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Good idea, but i have seen in BlueGriffon that the project manager IS NOT FREE, so you have to pay for it. And because i feel that uploading the modified pages will only work with the BlueGriffon Project Manager . :-) Why would you

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-22 Thread Ed Mullen
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Good idea, but i have seen in BlueGriffon that the project manager IS NOT FREE, so you have to pay for it. And because i feel that uploading the modified pages will only work with the BlueGriffon Project Manager . :-) Why would

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-21 Thread Rob Lindauer
Lee wrote: But as long as you're here.. how do you like Blue Griffon how much time did you spend figuring out how to do things? I tried version 1.1.1 and uninstalled it. SM Composer is intuitively obvious. BG wasn't ... at least for me :( I had the same reaction to 1.6.x (not the most

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-21 Thread Brooke Clarke
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Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-21 Thread Ed Mullen
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I tried the current version of Blue Griffon but it's lacking a couple of SeaMonkey Composer features like uploading and it's doesn't learn like SM so doing repetitive tasks takes a lot of clicking. Seamonkey is by far the easiest to use WYSIWYG web page composer. And

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread M Gordon
John Bessa wrote: Composer ought to be shot in the head says Ed. That is opinion not fact, fact for me is that it is the only wysiwyg I use because the rest are worse -- part of the issue is the death ofBR at the hands ofP (which has been revived by Google in mail andP) so all wysiwygs

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
John Bessa wrote: Composer ought to be shot in the head says Ed. That is opinion not fact, fact for me is that it is the only wysiwyg I use because the rest are worse -- part of the issue is the death of BR at the hands of P (which has been revived by Google in mail and P) so all

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread A Williams
M Gordon wrote: John Bessa wrote: Composer ought to be shot in the head says Ed. That is opinion not fact, fact for me is that it is the only wysiwyg I use because the rest are worse -- part of the issue is the death ofBR at the hands ofP (which has been revived by Google in mail andP) so

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread Lee
On 4/17/13, Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote: godfreye wrote: Is there an older unbroken version of SeaMonkey available somewhere that I can switch to until this issue is fixed? Composer is not going to be fixed. It was abandoned many years ago. Thanks to anyone

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread Ray_Net
Lee wrote, On 20/04/2013 19:56: On 4/17/13, Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote: godfreye wrote: Is there an older unbroken version of SeaMonkey available somewhere that I can switch to until this issue is fixed? Composer is not going to be fixed. It was abandoned many

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-20 Thread Lee
On 4/20/13, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Lee wrote, On 20/04/2013 19:56: On 4/17/13, Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote: godfreye wrote: Is there an older unbroken version of SeaMonkey available somewhere that I can switch to until this issue is

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-19 Thread Daniel
cmcadams wrote: Daniel wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-19 Thread Daniel
Ray_Net wrote: Ed Mullen wrote, On 19/04/2013 02:47: Ray_Net wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22: M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-19 Thread Ed Mullen
Ray_Net wrote: Ed Mullen wrote, On 19/04/2013 02:47: Ray_Net wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22: M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-19 Thread John Bessa
Composer ought to be shot in the head says Ed. That is opinion not fact, fact for me is that it is the only wysiwyg I use because the rest are worse -- part of the issue is the death of BR at the hands of P (which has been revived by Google in mail and P) so all wysiwygs should be shot in the

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread cmcadams
M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a broken application and

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Daniel
cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a broken

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Taylor
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Bug 85839 ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858309 ) was opened for this problem and comment 4 has details of a workaround. -- Jim

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Taylor
Jim Taylor wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Bug 85839 ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858309 ) was opened for this problem and comment 4 has details of a workaround. Actually looking further it

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread WaltS
On 04/18/2013 08:24 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: Jim Taylor wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Bug 85839 ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858309 ) was opened for this problem and comment 4 has details of a

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread M Gordon
cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a broken

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread A Williams
M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a broken application and

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Philip TAYLOR
M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is broke. That same 1/3 is used in the e-mail client when composing in HTML, and the e-mail client suffers from the

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread cmcadams
Jim Taylor wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Bug 85839 ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858309 ) was opened for this problem and comment 4 has details of a workaround. Wouldn't work in email,

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread cmcadams
Daniel wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread cmcadams
M Gordon wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread John Bessa
Composer is not going to be fixed. It was abandoned many years ago. I like it -- I have tried the rest and did not like them. I am hoping to un-abandon it, john On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, cmcadams cmcad...@invalid.net wrote: M Gordon wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Michael Gordon wrote: I also replied in the thread that it should be possible to remove the Composer package from the download and installation package, or make it an option to not download and install. The developers used to do this in the Mozilla days with select options to download and

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread M Gordon
cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22: M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is broke. That same 1/3 is used in the e-mail client when composing in

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread cmcadams
M Gordon wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: cmcadams wrote: M Gordon wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Ed Mullen
Ray_Net wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22: M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is broke. That same 1/3 is used in the e-mail client when

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-18 Thread Ray_Net
Ed Mullen wrote, On 19/04/2013 02:47: Ray_Net wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22: M Gordon wrote: It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the application is broke. That

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-17 Thread godfreye
I can confirm the problem in SM 2.17.1; I just encountered it. I can delete columns but not rows. Reinstalling the software didn't fix the problem, so this looks like a bug that needs to be fixed. Is there an older unbroken version of SeaMonkey available somewhere that I can switch to until

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
godfreye wrote: Is there an older unbroken version of SeaMonkey available somewhere that I can switch to until this issue is fixed? Composer is not going to be fixed. It was abandoned many years ago. Thanks to anyone who can help. The URL of the page with the tables affected (I assume all

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-17 Thread godfreye
Thanks, bts, for the help. I just reverted to SM 2.16.1 to be able to delete rows short term, and appreciate your recommendation of where to turn next; I did not know that Composer is no longer developed. [My code is messy because I'm not a programmer and have relied on many generations of

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-17 Thread M Gordon
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a broken application and allow the user

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

2013-04-16 Thread Geoff Welsh
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17 Composer. There was a similar thread a week or two ago, How an update managed to break the dead/no-longer-developed part of SM is beyond me. IIUC the latest project still being worked on is