Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread John Doue

Bill Davidsen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the "buttons" and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's 
programmers fault ?


DoctorBill
change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

DoctorBill


It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools -> User Agent Switcher -> Options -> Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, 
just
go to Tools -> User Agent Switcher -> Firefox (or whatever you called 
it)

and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,



To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.

I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.

So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a "User 
Agent" is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
erudite in the subject matter.


As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...

Mark is not as clear as he might be, you are NOT xchanging your user 
agent to FF, just changing the way it identifies itself to the site, so 
the site will behave. You are changing the UA *string* only.


That said, he did get you going in the right direction. Since most sites 
just parse for "Firefox" in the string, you can change it to read 
something like:

  "Seamonkey, not Firefox"
and it should work. I got that trick here, it's not original to me. You 
can set it in the "about:config" window.


Isn't there a nice wiki on this, and if not, why?

Well, this setting does affect some sites. Try for instance 
http://fr.yahoo.com/
The right part of the screen - a good part of it being ads - has 
disappeared. I had to go back to the original setting.


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread John Doue

Leonidas Jones wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the "buttons" and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers
fault ?

DoctorBill


After having learned about "User Agents" and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE - wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ? I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


No, not at all.

First of all, SM uses the same rendering engine as FF.  If you encounter 
a truly IE only page, spoofing as IE will not make it render better. 
Leaving the UA spoofed as IE will also cause plugin problems, 
particularly with Java.


Second, you should never leave your US spoofed.  Al that does is 
misreport the number of people using SM, and make sit all the less 
likely that web designers will support the browser we love. Prefbar, at 
least, will always set the ua back to the real ua when you restart. Only 
spoof the UA when there is no other way to enter az site, and even then, 
wrte them to let them know that their site is accessible with SeaMonkey, 
and that they should adjust their browser sniffer accordingly.


Lee

I think it is easier to use the IEtab extension.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread DoctorBill

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the "buttons" and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill


After having learned about "User Agents" and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE -  wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ?  I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


I've done that many times, and I still had problems.

Anyways, the best of both worlds would be the IETab extension: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1419




I went to the indicated site and ran the Install and got an error 
message after it finished...


IE%20Tab%201-5-20090207.xpi "Install script not found"

I then saved the XPI file and dragged it into the SM Browser window and
got the same error message again.

After restarting, it is not in the Extension Manager's list.

Any suggestions?

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1.1.15/16 and fr language pack

2009-04-14 Thread Lucas Levrel
Hi,

I've recently upgraded my SM to 1.1.15, then to 1.1.16, and reinstalled 
the French language pack each time, but in both cases I end with the 
following problem: most of the buttons, menu items, messages... remain in 
English after activating the language. For example:
- Go & Bookmarks in the menu bar
- Home & Bookmarks in the personal toolbar
- encryption-related alerts
- nearly everything in the mail reader: menu bar, prefs dialog, context 
  menus...

What could be wrong?

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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Henry

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


Henry wrote:

I'm still running Mozilla and want to change to SeaMonkey.  I notice 
in my profile that I have two .slt folders.  One has only a folder 
called Trash and a folder called Trash.cache.  The other has many, 
many items including bookmarks etc.


Should I have two .slt folders and will that give me trouble when I 
install SeaMonkey? Should I do anything about them or just leave 
both of them?


Thanks.

Henry




when you say mozilla, do you mean the old Mozilla Suite, or Mozilla 
Firefox?




Mozilla 1.8.1.11 suite

Henry



I have no idea what 1.8.1.11 is.  Mozilla Suite never went that high.  
It was either Mozilla 1.7.13 which was the last official release or 
1.8ba which never made it to release.


So, I'm presuming you have the old Mozilla Suite.  If so, then close 
Mozilla, and click on the windows start button, then run and enter:


mozilla.exe -p

this will start the Mozilla Profile Manager.  How many profiles do you 
see? If one, then go ahead and delete the .slt folder with the 
trash.cache in it.  I'm presuming that is when you deleted the cache, 
this is the directory that it created.


Otherwise, go ahead and install SM.  It will pick up your last Mozilla 
Suite profile and start using that.




When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.


Also, I checked under help/about Mozilla and I am running Mozilla 1.8.1.11

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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Hansen
On 04/14/09 08:12, Henry wrote:
> 
> When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
> home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.
> 
> Also, I checked under help/about Mozilla and I am running Mozilla 1.8.1.11
> 
> Henry

When you run Mozilla, to you have a "Switch Profile" on the "Tools" menu?
If so, that will launch the Profile Manager as well.

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Re: 1.1.15/16 and fr language pack

2009-04-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Hi,

I've recently upgraded my SM to 1.1.15, then to 1.1.16, and reinstalled
the French language pack each time, but in both cases I end with the
following problem: most of the buttons, menu items, messages... remain in
English after activating the language. For example:
- Go&  Bookmarks in the menu bar
- Home&  Bookmarks in the personal toolbar
- encryption-related alerts
- nearly everything in the mail reader: menu bar, prefs dialog, context
   menus...

What could be wrong?



Did you try switching back to English, restarting SeaMonkey, to French 
again, and restarting again?
We unfortunately have an old Bug in SeaMonkey 1.x that makes us need 
that sometimes. SeaMonkey 2 should work better there.


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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Henry wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
If so, then close Mozilla, 


When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla home 
page.  I get nothing about profile manager.


I guess you missed those little words

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the "buttons" and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's 
programmers fault ?


DoctorBill


After having learned about "User Agents" and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE -  wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ?  I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


I've done that many times, and I still had problems.

Anyways, the best of both worlds would be the IETab extension: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1419




I went to the indicated site and ran the Install and got an error 
message after it finished...


IE%20Tab%201-5-20090207.xpi "Install script not found"

I then saved the XPI file and dragged it into the SM Browser window and
got the same error message again.

After restarting, it is not in the Extension Manager's list.

Any suggestions?

DoctorBill


the last version I have is 
ie_tab-1.3.3.20070528-fx+mz+sm+fl-win.xpi


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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Henry

Mark Hansen wrote:


On 04/14/09 08:12, Henry wrote:

When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.


Also, I checked under help/about Mozilla and I am running Mozilla 1.8.1.11

Henry



When you run Mozilla, to you have a "Switch Profile" on the "Tools" menu?
If so, that will launch the Profile Manager as well.

I found that.  When I open it I get a box that's labeled "Available 
Profiles" and in that box all that's listed is "default".  It doesn't 
say anything about .slt folders.  So my question is, since I have two 
.slt folders in my profile, which one is correct?  The one full of 
lots of stuff or the one that only has in it a folder called Trash and 
a folder called Trash.cache? Do I need both?  Do other people have two?


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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Henry

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

If so, then close Mozilla, 



When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.



I guess you missed those little words


No, I closed Mozilla before I ran mozilla.exe -p

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Support for Norton idenity Safe

2009-04-14 Thread f1r2e...@gmail.com
Found a serious problem with Seamonkey.  It does not support Norton
Internet Security'd "idenity Safe"  a part of Norton Internet Security
2009
Is there an update for this incompatability in the works?
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Re: Support for Norton idenity Safe

2009-04-14 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

f1r2e...@gmail.com wrote:

Found a serious problem with Seamonkey.  It does not support Norton
Internet Security'd "idenity Safe"  a part of Norton Internet Security
2009
Is there an update for this incompatability in the works?


its not a SeaMonkey problem.  Its a Norton one.  Norton 
doesn't support SeaMonkey.  Go and ask them: 
http://community.norton.com/norton/


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Leonidas Jones

John Doue wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the "buttons" and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers
fault ?

DoctorBill


After having learned about "User Agents" and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE - wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ? I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


No, not at all.

First of all, SM uses the same rendering engine as FF. If you
encounter a truly IE only page, spoofing as IE will not make it render
better. Leaving the UA spoofed as IE will also cause plugin problems,
particularly with Java.

Second, you should never leave your US spoofed. Al that does is
misreport the number of people using SM, and make sit all the less
likely that web designers will support the browser we love. Prefbar,
at least, will always set the ua back to the real ua when you restart.
Only spoof the UA when there is no other way to enter az site, and
even then, wrte them to let them know that their site is accessible
with SeaMonkey, and that they should adjust their browser sniffer
accordingly.

Lee

I think it is easier to use the IEtab extension.



Of course, all you are doing then is running IE in a SeaMonkey shell.

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Re: two .slt folders

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Hansen
On 04/14/09 08:52, Henry wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
> 
>> On 04/14/09 08:12, Henry wrote:
>> 
>>>When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
>>>home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.
>>>
>>>Also, I checked under help/about Mozilla and I am running Mozilla 1.8.1.11
>>>
>>>Henry
>> 
>> 
>> When you run Mozilla, to you have a "Switch Profile" on the "Tools" menu?
>> If so, that will launch the Profile Manager as well.
>> 
> I found that.  When I open it I get a box that's labeled "Available 
> Profiles" and in that box all that's listed is "default".  It doesn't 
> say anything about .slt folders.  So my question is, since I have two 
> .slt folders in my profile, which one is correct?  The one full of 
> lots of stuff or the one that only has in it a folder called Trash and 
> a folder called Trash.cache? Do I need both?  Do other people have two?
> 
> Henry

The above test shows that Mozilla only sees the one profile, and it is
named 'Default'. Given that, I would have to guess that the .slt directory
with all the contents in it is the current one, and the other is not being
used.

... but that's just a guess. I think if you go into Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups
Account Settings, the select Local Folders, the local directory setting will
show the location of the profile directory in use.

However, this is for SeaMonkey - it may be different for older Mozilla
applications (this is the SeaMonkey news group though, right? :-)  )
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Re: Gone back to v1 (1.1.16) but

2009-04-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Interesting.  My first thought was to disable css, didn't help, so I 
disabled js and it worked, so I looked no further,


Disable js is a useful debugging tool, but it's not a solution. It's something 
like being sprayed by a skunk and holding your breath; it prevents the smell but 
causes issues elsewhere.


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Default e-mail client "contest."

2009-04-14 Thread HeavyDuty

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my 
default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and 
Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do 
with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my 
default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect 
Seamonkey?

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Re: Support for Norton idenity Safe

2009-04-14 Thread Phillip Pi

On 4/14/2009 11:24 AM PT, f1r2e...@gmail.com wrote:


Found a serious problem with Seamonkey.  It does not support Norton
Internet Security'd "idenity Safe"  a part of Norton Internet Security
2009
Is there an update for this incompatability in the works?


It only supports Firefox and Internet Explorer. No SeaMonkey since it is 
not that popular. :(

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

2009-04-14 Thread Daniel

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail 
client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular 
WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. 
If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect 
Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try to 
send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, worm, 
trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

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Re: Gone back to v1 (1.1.16) but

2009-04-14 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


Interesting. My first thought was to disable css, didn't help, so I
disabled js and it worked, so I looked no further,


Disable js is a useful debugging tool, but it's not a solution. It's
something like being sprayed by a skunk and holding your breath; it
prevents the smell but causes issues elsewhere.



The "solution" will be the release of SeaMonkey 2.0.

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

2009-04-14 Thread HeavyDuty

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail 
client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how 
will that affect Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try to 
send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, worm, 
trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

Daniel


So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and 
sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any 
other time I click on an e-mail address link, it will start 
outlook?

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

2009-04-14 Thread Terry R.
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, 
HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my 
default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and 
Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do 
with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my 
default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect 
Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose "WordPerfect 
Address Book".



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