Re: More room for text on toolbar

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:28:16 -0800 (PST), /AK/:

AK wrote:


I would like to have more room for text on my toolbar.

Can someone help me?

Thanks.

https://imgur.com/a/oiAAXmi


I got more room on the toolbar by lowering the font size.
/*
Changes font size for BOOKMARKS TOOLBAR
*/

#personal-bookmarks {
font-size:6pt !important;
}


If you're comfortable with editing your "userChrome.css" [1] try:

#PlacesToolbar toolbarbutton.bookmark-item {
  max-width: 18em;
}

Adjust to your needs further.  As far as I see the default style [2] is:

toolbarbutton.bookmark-item {
  min-width: 0px;
  max-width: 13em;
}

[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserChrome.css
[2] chrome://communicator/skin/places/bookmarksToolbar.css

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me 
if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine. 
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the 
newer level does.


2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.


Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about 
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to 
the desktop.


I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the 
latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.


Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have 
reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up 
allowing me to stop the script and continue.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:33:25 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

And now you can install 2.52.5.1 and enjoy better/working av1 deteaction 
and a security fix :)


Yep, and the 2.53.5.1 installer doesn't trigger the same threat warning. 
 Thank you very much.




Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:31:06 -0800, /Ant/:

On 11/18/2020 12:39 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


https://i.imgur.com/gqYTGtM.png


*.part is an incomplete download. Did you let it finish to 100%?


Yes, I've even installed it.  If you notice I've already posted that 
link with:


Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:39:31 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.5


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:31:06 -0800, /Ant/:

On 11/18/2020 12:39 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


https://i.imgur.com/gqYTGtM.png


*.part is an incomplete download. Did you let it finish to 100%?


Yes, I've even installed it.  If you notice I've already posted that 
link with:


Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:39:31 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.5


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:52:47 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:16:12 -0800, /Ant/:

Is there a way to report its false positive since it's new and not a 
popular file? I remember when Norton did this too in the past.


Not seeing an option here:

https://i.imgur.com/gqYTGtM.png

I've been previously presented with such an option – to indicate 
online (on some Microsoft site) I'm trusting the source of a 
particular application which is unknown (and not digitally signed) to 
some Microsoft online screening service (don't remember the name but 
it's built-in to Windows).


It says exe.part. Not sure if the rename to .exe failed when you 
downloaded the version and this is the problem you see.


It says it for both:

https://i.imgur.com/3LRE1aA.png

There's no .part file existing anymore.  Nothing's failed, just detected 
it a bit earlier while downloading previously.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:16:12 -0800, /Ant/:

On 11/18/2020 11:54 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:03:47 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:23:46 +0800, /Edmund Wong/:


[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5


Just want to get a confirmation it is likely a false positive:

Windows 10 (Windows Defender/Security) flags the installer 
(seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe) to contain "Potentially 
Unwanted Software": PUA:Win32/Caypnamer.A!ml


Are others on Windows 10 getting this?


Donwloaded again and compared with the one I did get directly from 
the build server. 100% identical. After building I installed it in 
several of my Windows 10 vms and two laptops without Windows defender 
making even a little beep. Has now been a few days ago but looks like 
a 99.9% false positive.


SHA256: 
fb546afd5d674e69a717a2d742c7b507c585a818ce2f025637d49da917d0be0c 
*seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe


The SHA256 sum I'm getting locally is the just the same but I'm 
getting the threat flag consistently.  Anyway I'm going to ignore it.  
Thanks for providing additional insurance for it.  Windows Defender 
seems very obscure on what and how it's doing.


Is there a way to report its false positive since it's new and not a 
popular file? I remember when Norton did this too in the past.


Not seeing an option here:

https://i.imgur.com/gqYTGtM.png

I've been previously presented with such an option – to indicate online 
(on some Microsoft site) I'm trusting the source of a particular 
application which is unknown (and not digitally signed) to some 
Microsoft online screening service (don't remember the name but it's 
built-in to Windows).


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:03:47 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:23:46 +0800, /Edmund Wong/:


[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5


Just want to get a confirmation it is likely a false positive:

Windows 10 (Windows Defender/Security) flags the installer 
(seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe) to contain "Potentially 
Unwanted Software": PUA:Win32/Caypnamer.A!ml


Are others on Windows 10 getting this?


Donwloaded again and compared with the one I did get directly from the 
build server. 100% identical. After building I installed it in several 
of my Windows 10 vms and two laptops without Windows defender making 
even a little beep. Has now been a few days ago but looks like a 
99.9% false positive.


SHA256: fb546afd5d674e69a717a2d742c7b507c585a818ce2f025637d49da917d0be0c 
*seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe


The SHA256 sum I'm getting locally is the just the same but I'm getting 
the threat flag consistently.  Anyway I'm going to ignore it.  Thanks 
for providing additional insurance for it.  Windows Defender seems very 
obscure on what and how it's doing.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:23:46 +0800, /Edmund Wong/:


[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5


Just want to get a confirmation it is likely a false positive:

Windows 10 (Windows Defender/Security) flags the installer 
(seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe) to contain "Potentially 
Unwanted Software": PUA:Win32/Caypnamer.A!ml


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

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Mon, 20 Jan 2020 10:22:33 +0800, /Edmund Wong/:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1b1!  It's the first beta in the 2.53 series.

Links:
[1] - https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1b1
[2] - https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/


Works flawlessly, so far.  Thank you very much!

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Re: Multi-pages ... one icon!

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Sat, 6 Oct 2018 20:11:58 +1000, _Daniel_:

Daniel wrote on 5/10/2018 6:23 PM:

On my SeaMonkey, I usually have Mail and News, Chatzilla and browser 
(six tabs) open.


On Win7, when I moused over the SM icon on the taskbar, I've had eight 
screens show up. But, today, I've got just the traditional three 
screen, M & N, Chat, and Browser. Whoohoo!!


I recall reading on the SeaMonkey IRC channel, a couple of days ago, 
either FRG or WG9s saying they were about to start work on fixing the 
problem, so after a future update, I'd be back to just the three 
screens when mouse-overing the SeaMonkey icon on the task bar.


What have I done right??


And, today, things are back to normal ... mouseing over the SM icon on 
the Win7 taskbar produces eight icons, ChatZilla, Mail & News and the 
six browser tabs!!


Oh well!! :-(


I usually have quite a few tabs and multiple browser windows opened, and 
I don't like having all tabs expanded when I hover the SM app icon on 
the taskbar, so I've set:


browser.taskbar.previews.enable = false

but that's the opposite of your preference, which happens to be the 
default SeaMonkey setting.  Next time you get the undesired behavior you 
may try toggling this one, and then toggle it back.


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Re: Display message body as simple html, no go on, do it, I insist.

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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:24:39 +0100, _Richmond_:

If I select to view message body as simple HTML, and select to view the 
summary, I shouldn't get this:


Have I been pwned, Firefox OK, let's ask its Have I Been Pwned 
tool (The Register)


Because  is HTML, right? It should be converted to a question mark.

This is from the SANS institute news feed here:

http://isc.sans.edu/newssummary.xml


That appears a problem of how do they encode the feed (View Source):




The text is already HTML/XML encoded, and then included literally in a 
CDATA section which "disables" the decoding, so you basically get the 
HTML/XML source.


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Re: Password doesn't insert into login

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Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:16:06 -0700, _DoctorBill_:


I notice that some web sites SEPARATE the Username entry from the Password
entry !  G-Mail does that


When you're asked to save a password, you could manually fill in (or 
just adjust) the associated username.  Next, when you click in a 
password field for the given domain, you'll be presented with an 
autocomplete drop-down for the username(s) remembered.


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Re: Videos on Fox News don't work (?)

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Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:36:55 -0700, _DoctorBill_:


Can anyone please tell me why none of the Videos on Fox News will work ?

The arrow just keeps on rotating but no video..

Do I have a "toggle" switched off somewhere ?


Doesn't make difference on my side but try checking Preferences: 
Advanced / HTTP Networking:


[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Try a clean profile, also – if it works, it is likely a setting in your 
current profile causing you trouble.


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Re: Newsgroup posts' sizes like e-mails' sizes?

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Sat, 30 Jun 2018 21:06:42 -0700, _Ant_:

Is there a way to have SeaMonkey v2.49.3's newsgroup client to show each 
post's sizes like its e-mail client? I assume it uses lines instead of 
post sizes. Why not both for each e-mail and newsgroup?


I hope there's a hack/trick to make it happen. Thank you for reading. :)




news.show_size_in_lines = false

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Re: Restart Extensions

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:26:10 -0700, _David E. Ross_:

On 6/6/2018 3:28 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/5/2018 9:26 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 5 Jun 2018 19:48:41 -0700, I previously wrote in part:

I have tried two different extensions for doing a restart of SeaMonkey. 
Neither quite provided the capabilities I want.


I tried Restart Application Button 53.0 at 
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/restart-application-button/?src=ss#id=690692>.
   When I used it, SeaMonkey restarted with a Web page that I had left and 
not the last Web page I visited. If I had several tabs open but closed 
before selecting the Restart button, SeaMonkey restarted with those tabs 
open again.


Not sure if it might be realted but – do you have 
"browser.sessionstore.interval" customized?


You seem to be correct.  I had that set at 5 minutes instead of the 
default 15 seconds.  I am again trying Restart Application Button 53.0. 
Resetting does not go as far back into history as it did before I reset 
browser.sessionstore.interval to the default.


I've asked as I have it customized like that and noticed quite awhile 
ago the same effect with normal restarts (I don't have experience with 
restart extensions).  I think no matter the interval the session should 
be always saved upon exit, but there might other reason for not doing so.



Unfortunately, Restart Application Button 53.0 does not restore the
JavaScript default (enabled) for tabs.  I am looking for an extension
that restores my default setup.  The global default for JavaScript is
controlled by the preference variable javascript.enabled.  However, it
seems that the tab default for JavaScript is NOT controlled by a
preference variable.

Restart Application Button seems to operate in a manner that does not
completely replicate terminating and then relaunching SeaMonkey.  While
user.js apparently is reloaded to restore my preferred settings that I
might have changed while browsing, settings that are not controlled by
preference variables are not all restored.

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Re: Restart Extensions

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Tue, 5 Jun 2018 19:48:41 -0700, _David E. Ross_:

I have tried two different extensions for doing a restart of SeaMonkey. 
Neither quite provided the capabilities I want.


I tried Restart Application Button 53.0 at 
.
  When I used it, SeaMonkey restarted with a Web page that I had left and 
not the last Web page I visited. If I had several tabs open but closed 
before selecting the Restart button, SeaMonkey restarted with those tabs 
open again.


Not sure if it might be realted but – do you have 
"browser.sessionstore.interval" customized?


I then tried the Restart button for the Toolbar Buttons extension at the 
list at 
.
  My normal setup is that JavaScript for the current tab is enabled, but 
I can use PrefBar to disable it.  If I did indeed disable it, this 
button failed to re-enable it on restarting SeaMonkey.


What I want is a button or menu item that, when selected, terminates and 
restarts SeaMonkey with ALL my defaults restored (including preferences 
from user.js) with the current Web pages (not prior pages) redisplayed. 
Is there an extension for that?

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Re: unable to see text being entered....

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Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:46:34 -0700, _sean nathan_:

thsi is a recurring problem that has recently reappeared, whenever I try 
to enter e'mail addresses or passwords in fields... the txt block 
remains white or black (depending upon which theme I am using) the only 
way to see if what I am typing is correct is to highlight said text.


This occurred in a new place yesterday while trying to respond to a 
message thread in G+...


"depending upon which theme I am using" – is it a browser theme from:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/themes/ or
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/complete-themes/

or is it Google own theme like (not sure if Google+ has similar setting):

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/112508

or possibly user style theme:

https://userstyles.org/styles/browse?search_terms=google%2B

?

Screenshot could be helpful.

Does the problem appear randomly, or is consistent when using specific 
theme?  What are your Preferences / Appearance / Colors settings?


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[ANN] QuoteCollapse 1.0+ backward-incompatibility (longish)

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

For those of you using the QuoteCollapse [1] extension, I'm the author 
of the changes included in version 1.0 (one may peek at [2] for some 
more details), and I want to stress out a detail which doesn't appear as 
obvious as it could be.


Now, if you just use the extension out-of-the-box with no user 
customizations you should not notice any change.  All users which have 
previously applied customizations need to see the following:


v1.0 :

  * [Backward-compatibility] Default styles now use max-height instead 
of height. Existing customizations need to be adjusted – see Customising 
on the website for details;


The "Customising" [3] page further includes:

Note, up to QuoteCollapse v0.9 the default styles used CSS |height| 
property instead of |max-height|. If you upgrade from that version you'll 
need to adjust old customizations like: |height: auto| → |max-height: none|, 
and replace other |height| usages for |max-height|.


The example customizations on that page have been updated, but people 
need to adjust them in their user style sheets, too.  A common side 
effect of not doing so is experiencing overlapping content [4][5].  As 
much as I'm sorry for the inconvenience it causes people just need to 
step in and adjust their styles.


-

Next, v1.0 seems to have broken [6][7] the "Expand all quotes by 
default" customization, so v1.1 was released yesterday.  All users of 
the "Expand all quotes by default" customization should note 
:



- Fixed/restored "Expand all quotes by default" support (broken in 1.0)
Note though, the necessary style has a tiny change in a 
backward-incompatible manner – users who customise the AddOn need to adjust 
(see the customising instructions).


Here's the necessary change highlighted:

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="true"] {

  ↓

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="false"] {

-

If you have followed all instructions given here, and still experiencing 
a problem with QC, you may try pinging me on these support groups (I'm 
not really following m.s.thunderbird, but m.s.seamonkey), or opening an 
issue here (the "Support site" link on the AMO page):


https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues

-

Apart from all mentioned previously, I recommend people trying out the 
new "Partially collapse quotes" customization (just before the last 
example on the "Customisation" page).  Here's a demo of what it looks 
like (contains traces of other personal customizations not related to QC):


 1. Instead of just seeing an attribution line as part of the collapsed 
quote, part or complete text of it is immediately seen as context to the 
reply:


https://i.imgur.com/ZghEaKm.png

 2. Expanding top-level quote reveals more of the nested collapsed quotes:

https://i.imgur.com/Fd3agLi.png

 3. One may also skip the previous step and directly expand a nested quote:

https://i.imgur.com/VjO4jC3.png


Enough said, have a nice day everyone.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quotecollapse/
[2] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/1
[3] http://mjg.github.io/QuoteCollapse/customising.html
[4] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/2
[5] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/7
[6] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/4
[7] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/5

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

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Sat, 2 Jun 2018 01:56:15 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:05:56 +1000, _Daniel_:

Daniel wrote on 01/06/18 19:52:

2.    QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, 
but the news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the 
Add-on Manager screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" 
or "Remove". (I haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)


What need I do to get Lightning and QuoteCollapse functional in Linux 
SM, please??


When I re-restarted SM, I found QuoteCollapse was working ... to such 
an extent that I was only seeing the most recent posts, i.e. the 
messages that I actually clicked on. Can I set QC to show, maybe, the 
last three or four posts in the thread??


I'll post some details and clarifications for QuoteCollapse 1.0+ 
tomorrow (or later today, depending on time zone).


So I've sent out "[ANN] QuoteCollapse 1.0+ backward-incompatibility 
(longish)", but it got likely hold off for moderation as I've 
cross-posted it to mozilla.support.thunderbird, too.  I'm attaching it 
here, and hope it will get through.  Daniel, please have a look at it 
and see if any of the stuff mentioned would help you resolve your 
current issues.


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--- Begin Message ---
For those of you using the QuoteCollapse [1] extension, I'm the author 
of the changes included in version 1.0 (one may peek at [2] for some 
more details), and I want to stress out a detail which doesn't appear as 
obvious as it could be.


Now, if you just use the extension out-of-the-box with no user 
customizations you should not notice any change.  All users which have 
previously applied customizations need to see the following:


v1.0 :

  * [Backward-compatibility] Default styles now use max-height instead 
of height. Existing customizations need to be adjusted – see Customising 
on the website for details;


The "Customising" [3] page further includes:

Note, up to QuoteCollapse v0.9 the default styles used CSS |height| 
property instead of |max-height|. If you upgrade from that version you'll 
need to adjust old customizations like: |height: auto| → |max-height: none|, 
and replace other |height| usages for |max-height|.


The example customizations on that page have been updated, but people 
need to adjust them in their user style sheets, too.  A common side 
effect of not doing so is experiencing overlapping content [4][5].  As 
much as I'm sorry for the inconvenience it causes people just need to 
step in and adjust their styles.


-

Next, v1.0 seems to have broken [6][7] the "Expand all quotes by 
default" customization, so v1.1 was released yesterday.  All users of 
the "Expand all quotes by default" customization should note 
:



- Fixed/restored "Expand all quotes by default" support (broken in 1.0)
Note though, the necessary style has a tiny change in a 
backward-incompatible manner – users who customise the AddOn need to adjust 
(see the customising instructions).


Here's the necessary change highlighted:

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="true"] {

  ↓

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="false"] {

-

If you have followed all instructions given here, and still experiencing 
a problem with QC, you may try pinging me on these support groups (I'm 
not really following m.s.thunderbird, but m.s.seamonkey), or opening an 
issue here (the "Support site" link on the AMO page):


https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues

-

Apart from all mentioned previously, I recommend people trying out the 
new "Partially collapse quotes" customization (just before the last 
example on the "Customisation" page).  Here's a demo of what it looks 
like (contains traces of other personal customizations not related to QC):


 1. Instead of just seeing an attribution line as part of the collapsed 
quote, part or complete text of it is immediately seen as context to the 
reply:


https://i.imgur.com/ZghEaKm.png

 2. Expanding top-level quote reveals more of the nested collapsed quotes:

https://i.imgur.com/Fd3agLi.png

 3. One may also skip the previous step and directly expand a nested quote:

https://i.imgur.com/VjO4jC3.png


Enough said, have a nice day everyone.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quotecollapse/
[2] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/1
[3] http://mjg.github.io/QuoteCollapse/customising.html
[4] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/2
[5] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/7
[6] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/4
[7] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/5

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

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Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:05:56 +1000, _Daniel_:

Daniel wrote on 01/06/18 19:52:

2.    QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, 
but the news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the 
Add-on Manager screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" or 
"Remove". (I haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)


What need I do to get Lightning and QuoteCollapse functional in Linux 
SM, please??


When I re-restarted SM, I found QuoteCollapse was working ... to such an 
extent that I was only seeing the most recent posts, i.e. the messages 
that I actually clicked on. Can I set QC to show, maybe, the last three 
or four posts in the thread??


I'll post some details and clarifications for QuoteCollapse 1.0+ 
tomorrow (or later today, depending on time zone).


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Re: Images not displaying on brickset.com

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Wed, 30 May 2018 21:41:19 +0200, _Mason83_:

On 30/05/2018 11:26, Jonathan Wilson wrote:


When I visit a URL like
https://brickset.com/sets/79111-1/Constitution-Train-Chase I should see a
picture of a train. If I visit using an alternative browser (Internet
Explorer in this case) or with a fresh profile for testing, the image shows
up. But on my primary SeaMonkey profile, I can't see the images.
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (the latest release version).

I have tested a restart in safe mode (on my primary profile) and the images
are still gone (so that rules out adblock or any other add-ons being the cause)

Anyone know what could cause the images not to display? I have attempted to
check the permissions by going to "preferences-privacy and security-images"
and pressing "manage permissions" which displays a "data manager" window
but that doesn't work (SM hangs for a bit then displays an error that
dataman.js is too slow or something and stops running the script, the
dialog does nothing after that)

Is there a way to see/edit any image related permissions that may be set
without needing to use the "data manager"? Is there a way to get the "data
manager" to work without crashing (and without me needing to delete any of
my stored cookies or other stored data?)


Take a look at about:support
Especially "Important Modified Preferences" section.

Does anything suspicious stand out?

As Stanimir points out, image does not load if Javascript for the
page is disabled (either globally or through NoScript).


A particular thing to look for under "Important Modified Preferences" 
could be "javascript.enabled" (that's the global preference) with a 
value of "false".


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Re: Images not displaying on brickset.com

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Wed, 30 May 2018 15:40:25 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Wed, 30 May 2018 19:26:53 +1000, _Jonathan Wilson_:

When I visit a URL like 
https://brickset.com/sets/79111-1/Constitution-Train-Chase I should 
see a picture of a train. If I visit using an alternative browser 
(Internet Explorer in this case) or with a fresh profile for testing, 
the image shows up. But on my primary SeaMonkey profile, I can't see 
the images.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (the latest release version).

I have tested a restart in safe mode (on my primary profile) and the 
images are still gone (so that rules out adblock or any other add-ons 
being the cause)


Anyone know what could cause the images not to display?


Have you by any chance disabled JavaScript?


I guess I should have been more specific – look in the Preferences:

  Advanced / Scripts & Plugins:
Enable JavaScript for:
  [x] Browser (make sure it's checked)

This one is not affected in safe mode, and could be triggered by other 
than the "Preferences" window means.



I have attempted to check the permissions by going to 
"preferences-privacy and security-images" and pressing "manage 
permissions" which displays a "data manager" window but that doesn't 
work (SM hangs for a bit then displays an error that dataman.js is too 
slow or something and stops running the script, the dialog does 
nothing after that)


Is there a way to see/edit any image related permissions that may be 
set without needing to use the "data manager"? Is there a way to get 
the "data manager" to work without crashing (and without me needing to 
delete any of my stored cookies or other stored data?)

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Re: Images not displaying on brickset.com

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Wed, 30 May 2018 19:26:53 +1000, _Jonathan Wilson_:

When I visit a URL like 
https://brickset.com/sets/79111-1/Constitution-Train-Chase I should see 
a picture of a train. If I visit using an alternative browser (Internet 
Explorer in this case) or with a fresh profile for testing, the image 
shows up. But on my primary SeaMonkey profile, I can't see the images.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (the latest release version).

I have tested a restart in safe mode (on my primary profile) and the 
images are still gone (so that rules out adblock or any other add-ons 
being the cause)


Anyone know what could cause the images not to display?


Have you by any chance disabled JavaScript?


I have attempted 
to check the permissions by going to "preferences-privacy and 
security-images" and pressing "manage permissions" which displays a 
"data manager" window but that doesn't work (SM hangs for a bit then 
displays an error that dataman.js is too slow or something and stops 
running the script, the dialog does nothing after that)


Is there a way to see/edit any image related permissions that may be set 
without needing to use the "data manager"? Is there a way to get the 
"data manager" to work without crashing (and without me needing to 
delete any of my stored cookies or other stored data?)

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Re: Where are the signs of signed messages stored?

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Tue, 29 May 2018 14:37:20 +0200, _Dirk Munk_:

I have set up my email for being able to send and receive encrypted 
email messages.


(Mail & newsgroup account settings > Security)

All my messages are signed now, and in order to be able to send an 
encrypted message, the recipient has to send me one unencrypted signed 
message first. That sign will be stored on my PC, but where is it 
stored, and can I see how many on those signs have been stored so far?


The "signs" you're talking about are called Certificates.  You should be 
able to find them through the same account settings section (Security):


  [Manage Certificates...]

or via the global Preferences:

  Privacy & Security / Certificates: [Manage Certificates...]

Look under the "People" tab of the Certificate Manager window.

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

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Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:


I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.


What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail 
message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or 
complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example 
of another software which already does it, like another browser or user 
extension to it?


It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus, 
though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact 
thing you're after.


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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Wed, 9 May 2018 08:04:01 +0200, _Ray_Net_:

Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 22:21:

Bugzilla isn't just for bugs though, it's for change requests too. The 
fact that it is working correctly doesn't mean it is useful or should 
never be changed.


Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively 
in plain-text.
If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the 
HTML part ...

Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ...

If you want to see the attachment Iphone/Ipad MUST put the attachment 
OUTSIDE de html part.


I can think of few reasons why the current behavior should be improved:

1) The MIME handling is not set in stone – it's mostly about the 
capabilities of the client, and a client should make best effort to not 
hide content from the user.  If I remember correctly Claws Mail [1] 
doesn't handle HTML but presents an UI for viewing any MIME part of the 
message as text, or just access/save it as attachment;


2) There's already a precedent in Mozilla Mail – an HTML message with 
embedded pictures:


   multipart/alternative
├─ text/plain
└─ multipart/related
├─ text/html
└─ image/jpeg

When viewed as plain text, the pictures are seen as attachments.  In 
fact any other part, whether actually linked in the HTML or not, of the 
"multiplart/related" branch will be shown as attachment.  That's 
perfectly valid given (1).  It makes sense this handling could be 
extended, or more generic solution like "Show All Body Parts" (already 
suggested in another reply to this thread) provided.


[1] http://www.claws-mail.org/

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Tue, 8 May 2018 09:31:58 +0100, _Richmond_:


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/show-all-body-parts/

called "show all body parts" - an unfortunate name. :)


Nice one – thanks for the reference.

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Mon, 7 May 2018 18:17:47 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Mon, 7 May 2018 09:17:46 +0100, _Richmond_:

I can see the image on your article without problem. It does not say 
it is an attachment though, and the content disposition is "inline", 
so it is not like my example. In my example, nothing at all is shown, 
it is as if there are no attachments. The only clue is if you type 
ctrl-u or view as html.


Test... (HTML / plain text)


Attachment seems recognized in both of original HTML and plain text 
views having the following message structure (generated for HTML with 
embedded images by SeaMonkey):


   multipart/alternative
├─ text/plain
└─ multipart/related
├─ text/html
└─ application/octet-stream (attachment)

The attachment is not recognized in plain text view having the following 
almost same structure (generated by "non-compatible" mail client):


   multipart/alternative
├─ text/plain
└─ *multipart/mixed*
├─ text/html
└─ application/octet-stream (attachment)

Attachment is also recognized in original HTML and plain text views with 
the following structure (generated for general attachments by SeaMonkey):


   multipart/mixed
├─ multipart/alternative
│   ├─ text/plain
│   └─ text/html
└─ application/octet-stream (attachment)

In my opinion SeaMonkey (and Thunderbird) should recognize and handle 
the second case just as the first one, although the attachment in both 
is only given as related to the "Original HTML" alternative.


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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Mon, 7 May 2018 09:17:46 +0100, _Richmond_:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_:

I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does 
not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded 
message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at 
least say that there are attachments without trying any further 
interpretation.


You probably observe the following:
I think I've seen it before just with Apple mail clients. SeaMonkey 
is not able to compose just that way.


I can see the image on your article without problem. It does not say 
it is an attachment though, and the content disposition is "inline", 
so it is not like my example. In my example, nothing at all is shown, 
it is as if there are no attachments. The only clue is if you type 
ctrl-u or view as html.


Test... (plain text)

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 15:05:32 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Sun, 6 May 2018 09:23:45 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_:

I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not 
show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded 
message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at 
least say that there are attachments without trying any further 
interpretation.


With all said here, and elsewhere in this thread – next time try unchecking:

   View -> Display Attachments Inline

and see if it makes a difference for you.


You probably observe the following:

[inline image/png part with no filename associated]

I think I've seen it before just with Apple mail clients.  SeaMonkey 
is not able to compose just that way.


My original message was multipart/mixed consisting of three parts:

   * text/plain
   * image/png
   * text/plain

I've tried as soon as I give:

     Content-Type: ...; name=

or:

     Content-Disposition: ...; filename=

to any of the parts they start showing as attachments, in addition.


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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 20:27:54 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

So the first time I've composed an HTML message and inserted an image 
it retained the file name information so it appears as attachment when 
viewed as plain text.  Next I've used Edit As New... and the file name 
information was lost, and image is no longer shown as attachment even 
when message viewed as plain text.


On my machine, both messages have paper clips in the message listing 
indicating the presence of an attachment regardless of my View settings.


If I choose View | Message Body As | Original HTML, the images also 
appear in the message body, but SM thinks there is no attachment, so it 
shows no attachment pane.


If I choose View | Message Body As | Plain Text, they vanish from the 
message body but are listed in the attachment pane (as "color-image.png" 
and "Part 1.2.2," respectively).


SM 2.49.2, classic theme.


O.k.  This appears additionally affected by View | Display Attachments 
Inline.  When it is selected "anonymous" message parts are not shown as 
attachments, although they might not be shown at all.  When _not_ 
selected such "anonymous" message parts get listed as attachments using 
a generated name like "Part 1.2.2".


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View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for 
SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on 
an HTML message with an embedded image – the image will then appear as 
an attachment.


Not on my machine.

I tested with several HTML messages containing embedded images, which 
were originally displayed as View | Message Body As | Original HTML, and 
switched them to View | Message Body As | Plain Text. The images 
disappeared, of course, but no "attachment" appeared in the list; in 
fact, no attachment list was shown in the message header area because 
there were no attachments.


So the first time I've composed an HTML message and inserted an image it 
retained the file name information so it appears as attachment when 
viewed as plain text.  Next I've used Edit As New... and the file name 
information was lost, and image is no longer shown as attachment even 
when message viewed as plain text.


See my other reply to the OP for an example where an image may not 
show as attachment.


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View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for 
SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on 
an HTML message with an embedded image – the image will then appear 
as an attachment.


Not on my machine.

I tested with several HTML messages containing embedded images, which 
were originally displayed as View | Message Body As | Original HTML, 
and switched them to View | Message Body As | Plain Text. The images 
disappeared, of course, but no "attachment" appeared in the list; in 
fact, no attachment list was shown in the message header area because 
there were no attachments.


2nd try:

[color-image]

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for 
SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on 
an HTML message with an embedded image – the image will then appear 
as an attachment.


Not on my machine.

I tested with several HTML messages containing embedded images, which 
were originally displayed as View | Message Body As | Original HTML, 
and switched them to View | Message Body As | Plain Text. The images 
disappeared, of course, but no "attachment" appeared in the list; in 
fact, no attachment list was shown in the message header area because 
there were no attachments.


Let's try:

[color-image]

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 00:27:56 +0200, _EE_:

Ray_Net wrote:

It's normal that the attachment is available when you send a 
plain-text mail with an attachment...
but try to compose and send an HTML mail with a copy/paste on the 
content of a picture instead of adding an attachment - then the guy 
who receive your mail - if he force the plain-text-format reading ... 
the picture is then not available until he force the html-format reading.


You are now talking about embedded pictures, not attachments.


It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for 
SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on an 
HTML message with an embedded image – the image will then appear as an 
attachment.


See my other reply to the OP for an example where an image may not show 
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View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Sun, 6 May 2018 09:23:45 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_:

I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not 
show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message 
from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say 
that there are attachments without trying any further interpretation.


You probably observe the following:

[inline image/png part with no filename associated]

I think I've seen it before just with Apple mail clients.  SeaMonkey is 
not able to compose just that way.


My original message was multipart/mixed consisting of three parts:

  * text/plain
  * image/png
  * text/plain

I've tried as soon as I give:

Content-Type: ...; name=

or:

Content-Disposition: ...; filename=

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_:

I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not 
show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message 
from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say 
that there are attachments without trying any further interpretation.


You probably observe the following:
I think I've seen it before just with Apple mail clients.  SeaMonkey is 
not able to compose just that way.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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Sat, 31 Mar 2018 23:45:06 +1100, _Daniel_:

Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, the 
same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so that 
may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!


I'm just suggesting Marisa may better use:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

that is omitting just the SM part of the original string, instead of:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0


which Ed has given initially.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

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Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0400, _Marisa Ciceran_:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:


user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I figured 
out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use. Thank you!


You may wish to use UA string more closely resembling your current 
configuration, and one which reports more recent Fx version:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

Note, you could also edit this via the  page, and not 
having to deal with hidden configuration files on the file system.


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Re: Strange punctuation randomly inserted in email

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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 11:50:09 +0200, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:13:34 -0800 (PST), _jamielansford@gmail.com_:

I typically bcc myself and so I see replies and messages I have sent. 
Lately, SeaMonkey seems to be inserting random punctuation or 
graphics, sometimes where I had entered spaces.  For example, I typed 
this correctly, but this is what appeared in the copy I sent to myself:


No.?? They went up to $100 per, effective -- I believe -- January 1.??

Another example:


?? I am sorry that when I wrote the email the other day about the 
cost of PHV, I did not realize that the PHV fee had been doubled, I 
suppose effective as of January 1.?? I still think the money is worth 
spending rather than having issues at deposition or later for not 
having gotten admitted.


Any ideas what to do about this would be largely appreciated.  It's 
getting embarrassing.


You've said in another reply the problem persists with previous 2.48 as 
with latest 2.49 versions as well.  It could very well be a problem 
specific to your SeaMonkey profile settings – you may try reproducing it 
with a new clean profile, for example.


In the mean time could you have a look at your SeaMonkey settings:

     Preferences / Mail & Newsgroups / Text Encoding

and the "Default Text Encoding" in the "Server Settings" for specific 
Mail/News accounts – if you have changed any of the defaults it might 
lead to such unexpected results.


Have a look at specific Mail/News folder Properties (right-click a 
folder), also:


     Fallback Text Encoding: [_]

     [ ] Apply encoding to all messages in the folder (individual 
message text encoding settings and auto-detection will be ignored)


Also, have a look at the  page:

mailnews.force_charset_override false

If you have it changed it to |true| instead – it would cause problems 
for sure.


https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1042608
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556254

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Re: Strange punctuation randomly inserted in email

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Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:13:34 -0800 (PST), _jamielansford@gmail.com_:

I typically bcc myself and so I see replies and messages I have sent.  
Lately, SeaMonkey seems to be inserting random punctuation or 
graphics, sometimes where I had entered spaces.  For example, I typed 
this correctly, but this is what appeared in the copy I sent to 
myself:


No.?? They went up to $100 per, effective -- I believe -- January 
1.??


Another example:


?? I am sorry that when I wrote the email the other day about the 
cost of PHV, I did not realize that the PHV fee had been doubled, I 
suppose effective as of January 1.?? I still think the money is worth 
spending rather than having issues at deposition or later for not 
having gotten admitted.


Any ideas what to do about this would be largely appreciated.  It's 
getting embarrassing.


You've said in another reply the problem persists with previous 2.48 as 
with latest 2.49 versions as well.  It could very well be a problem 
specific to your SeaMonkey profile settings – you may try reproducing it 
with a new clean profile, for example.


In the mean time could you have a look at your SeaMonkey settings:

Preferences / Mail & Newsgroups / Text Encoding

and the "Default Text Encoding" in the "Server Settings" for specific 
Mail/News accounts – if you have changed any of the defaults it might 
lead to such unexpected results.


Have a look at specific Mail/News folder Properties (right-click a 
folder), also:


Fallback Text Encoding: [_]

[ ] Apply encoding to all messages in the folder (individual 
message text encoding settings and auto-detection will be ignored)


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 14:46:44 +0100, _Frank-Rainer Grahl_:


Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document 
to user and UA sheets]


Funny:


You are not authorized to access bug 1411708.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 14:47:42 +0100, _Frank-Rainer Grahl_:


Try layout.css.moz-document.content.enabled true


That one did it – thank you very much!

– Stanimir



Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Might be because of
Bug 1411708 - port relevant hunks of bug 1035091 [limit @-moz-document 
to user and UA sheets]


but not familiar with it.


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch 
wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 
2.49.2 – styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and 
operational.  Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed 
problems with other extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:02:49 +1100, _Daniel_:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P


For some reason Stylish 2.1.1 [1] doesn't appear to work with SM 2.49.2 
– styles don't get applied, while all of its UI is present and 
operational.  Works just fine with SM 2.49.1.  Haven't observed problems 
with other extensions, so far.


[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/2.1.1

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Re: UPDATE SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

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Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:30:56 -0500, _Mozilla User_:

YouTube still crashes with a script error for "desktop_polymer.js" 
whenever I use YouTube's new format. As long as I stick with the older 
style, I have no issues with unresponsive script errors.


I haven't experienced YouTube crashes, and I'm using the latest (hidden) 
version available at:


https://www.youtube.com/new

I'm using it as it enables choosing a dark theme which is generally more 
easy on my eyes:


https://i.imgur.com/52a1eRi.png
https://i.imgur.com/lOixVs7.png

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

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Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:44:57 -0600, _Paul in Houston, TX_:


You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; 
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0


I'm accessing Yahoo! Mail mostly via SeaMonkey Mail (IMAP), but for 
seamless web access I've set:


general.useragent.override.mail.yahoo.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0

That is I'm using the override just for the mail.yahoo.com site, and I'm 
not really advertising higher Firefox version (than 52 ESR), at present.


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Re: Yahoo email no longer works with seamonkey.

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Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:53:10 -0400, /WaltS48/:

On 9/6/17 12:52 PM, Black Fig Pizza Company wrote:


Yahoo is asking for upgrade to a different browser.


We need more information.

What version of SeaMonkey on what operating system?

Do you have Advertise Firefox Compatibility enabled? (If your 
version of SeaMonkey supports it).


I have the option enabled but Yahoo kept on insisting I change my 
browser.  I've been able to work it around setting the following 
pref :


general.useragent.override.mail.yahoo.com

to:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0


(that is omitting the SeaMonkey/2.49.1 part)

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Re: Encoding without headers

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Sun, 23 Jul 2017 17:54:57 +0100, /Richmond/:

Stanimir Stamenkov writes:

Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:00:15 +0100, /Richmond/:

Richmond writes:

If someone posts the characters Left Double Quotation Mark “ or Right 
Double Quotation Mark ” without any mime headers to indicate the encoding, 
Seamonkey seems to manage to display them anyway, whereas Gnus displays 
\223 \224. How is Seamonkey managing to find out what these codes mean? and 
how can I find out what character encoding it has chosen to use?


Can Seamonkey change encodings in the middle of an article? For example if 
I use Greek Drachma Sign Ż will that appear?


I should say that it doesn't seem to be using the default of 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1 because 224 represents à on 
that system.


I guess it is because browsers generally default to Windows-1252 (see the 
table in the last point 8):


https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/syntax.html#determining-the-character-encoding


According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252 char 224 is à
too.


Seems like you've found the answer (in another reply to this thread) – 
the 224 number is octal, which corresponds to HEX 94... Who uses/needs 
octal nowadays – gosh, it is confusing to programmers, even.


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Re: Encoding without headers

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Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:00:15 +0100, /Richmond/:

Richmond writes:

If someone posts the characters Left Double Quotation Mark “ or Right 
Double Quotation Mark ” without any mime headers to indicate the 
encoding, Seamonkey seems to manage to display them anyway, whereas Gnus 
displays \223 \224. How is Seamonkey managing to find out what these 
codes mean? and how can I find out what character encoding it has chosen 
to use?


Can Seamonkey change encodings in the middle of an article? For example 
if I use Greek Drachma Sign Ż will that appear?


I should say that it doesn't seem to be using the default of 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1 because 224 represents à on 
that system.


I guess it is because browsers generally default to Windows-1252 (see 
the table in the last point 8):


https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/syntax.html#determining-the-character-encoding

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Re: I have found a year 2000 bug in Seamonkey

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Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:15:30 +0100, /Richmond/:

Mason83  writes:

On 14/07/2017 23:35, Richmond wrote:


The article below appears at the top of my rss feed which is sorted by
date, latest first. The date in the date column is 30/11/02. But the
date of the article is 1966. I don't know where it got the '02 date
from.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1966/oct/24/britishidentity.fromthearchive


What's the RSS feed's URL?

Is it https://www.theguardian.com/uk/rss ? (Apparently not)


I think it is this one:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/rss


You should be more specific whether you're using "Blogs & News Feed", or 
"Live Bookmarks" (or else) for this feed.  As far as I see date order in 
the former is just right, if you sort by date.  The later seems to list 
entries in the order returned from the server, and I'm currently seeing:



  Living in the shadow of Grenfell: 'It’s like looking into 
an open coffin'

  ...
  Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:52:41 GMT
  ...
  2017-07-14T11:52:41Z


  Teenager knew police were chasing him before fatal crash, 
inquest finds

  ...
  Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:20:12 GMT
  ...
  2016-06-28T16:20:12Z


  Acid attack victim says delivery drivers have felt unsafe 
for months

  ...
  Fri, 14 Jul 2017 17:35:56 GMT
  ...
  2017-07-14T17:35:56Z


These being listed in exact given order in the live bookmark.

As to why this server returns a last year entry in the middle of 
"nowhere", I don't know.


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Re: Following references in email

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Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:58:00 +0100, /Richmond/:

Stanimir Stamenkov <s7a...@netscape.net> writes:


It's a pseudo folder, or probably better stated everything else than "All
Mail" is a pseudo folder.


Is that created by Gmail?


Yes.


If you're using threaded view (View -> Sort by -> Threaded) you should be
generally able to use B (Go -> Previous -> Message).  To ensure going to the
previous of the exact branch of the thread – Tab (most likely Shift+Tab) your
way to the thread pane, then press <- (Left Arrow).


Previous message isn't quite right because the previous message may be
in a different sub thread. (Actually I have noticed it is displayed as B
on the menu, but B doesn't work, it has to be lower case b).


Yes, previous message is not always what you want, that's why I've 
suggested the <- (Left-Arrow) trick to go to the exact parent message. 
Unfortunately it might also require tabbing to the thread pane, first.


BTW, B as the key (vs. the letter) works for me whether I'm in Caps-Lock 
mode, or not.  In contrast Shift+B doesn't work for me in any Caps-Lock 
state.



... You might consider filling an enhancement request for this.


I can't see anything being enhanced in the near future...


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Re: Some Google Script Message happening

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Fri, 7 Jul 2017 07:16:04 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Install No Script and blacklist the domain. Case closed. Unly used for 
user data harvesting and tracking.


I think:

Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Prevent tracking activities by 
known sites


is a bit better option, though quite often I see embedded content (most 
notably FB) missing on sites.  While the previous is not showstopper for 
me, I've also found it breaking the Google authentication with the 
Atlassian cloud services I need in my daily work.


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Re: Following references in email

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Fri, 07 Jul 2017 20:18:12 +0100, /Richmond/:

If I select View -> Headers -> All Headers, I can see references and 
click on the message ID of the message to which the author 
replied. (So to clarify, I receive messages from someone who does not 
quote anything, but in his headers is the reference to the message id of 
the message he replied to. And that's all I have to go on).


This is very useful. Somehow imap with gmail finds the message I sent in 
the folder "All Mail". I am not sure if gmail create that, or if it is 
some kind of pseudo folder.


It's a pseudo folder, or probably better stated everything else than 
"All Mail" is a pseudo folder.


So, what I would like to be able to do is press a key to go to the 
previous reference. There doesn't seem to be anything to do this. I am 
not quite sure what [ and ] do (back and forward). Sometimes they go 
around in circles.


[ and ] (back and forward) navigate just through you viewing history (as 
pages in the web browser).


If you're using threaded view (View -> Sort by -> Threaded) you should 
be generally able to use B (Go -> Previous -> Message).  To ensure going 
to the previous of the exact branch of the thread – Tab (most likely 
Shift+Tab) your way to the thread pane, then press <- (Left Arrow).


Otherwise I don't see the reference links having access keys assigned. 
I see one could Tab his way to them in the header pane, but then it 
seems they cannot be activated using the keyboard.  You might consider 
filling an enhancement request for this.


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Re: Previous Session Can't Always Be Restored

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Sat, 24 Jun 2017 21:40:44 -0400, /Big Jim/:

SeaMonkey occasionally crashes, usually due to excessive memory use. Not 
too often, but often enough to be annoying and occasionally cause some 
real problems, when SM is restarted the "Restore Previous Session" box 
is greyed out and does not work.  Is there some where in the files or 
the configuration that this information exists and the tab information 
can be found other than by going through "History" page by page to find 
saved tabs that may have been opened a week or more ago?
The only solution I have found so far is to use the "Bookmark This Group 
of Tabs" option occasionally, but I don't always do it often enough 
(like the barn door gets closed too late).


Similar observations have been made few days ago in the "Restore 
Previous Session" [1] thread.  I'm not aware of a workaround at present. 
 I could only advise trying to come up with good steps to reproduce the 
problem, and opening a bug [2] for it.


[1] news:1u-dnavzqirssdrenz2dnuu7-...@mozilla.org
[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=SeaMonkey

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Re: Restore Previous Session

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Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:42:39 -0400, /rickman/:

My computer ran out of battery and had to be rebooted.  Seamonkey comes 
up ok and I am able to read newsgroups fine.  But when I open the 
browser I am not able to get the restore to work.  It opens a new 
window, but nothing shows up.


I found this was because a new tab had been opened in the initial 
browser window.  Once that was closed the restore worked fine.


I don't have this issue with any of the other browsers I use.  Is this 
expected?  Often when I am recovering from a PC crash the SeaMonkey 
browser gets opened by clicking a link in a newsgroup.  So it will 
happen from time to time that a tab will already be open when I try to 
do a restore.  I guess I'll just have to remember to close that extra tab.


I've also found problem using the session restore if I open a new 
tab/page (from Mail & News, as that's what opens first in my 
configuration) before I get to restore the crashed session.  I have to 
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Re: Tab tear-offs gone?

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Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:09:04 -0700, /David E. Ross/:

On 6/22/2017 11:43 AM, Rick & Sharon wrote:


Hi.  I'm on Win10 x64, with v2.46 (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20161213183751)

I've just discovered that the ability to tear off tabs from the current
window and have them open a new window for side-by-side comparison, no
longer works.  I will admit I don't know the version I was using the
last time I did this, but I've just found it non-functional.  The Help
file doesn't say 'boo' about it, and the only on-line references I've
come across refer to Firefox builds.

My IE install still does this, so am I remembering incorrectly that SM
ever did have this capability?  I only use IE as a last resort when a
web page gives me grief in SM, and I don't even have Chrome installed.


I have never seen a tab tear-off capability in SeaMonkey.  If you drag a
tab and drop it onto your desktop, you get an Internet shortcut.  If you
then double-click on that Internet shortcut, it opens a new browser tab
for the Web page that was displayed in the tab.


I think I remember it working in some "prehistoric" version of 
SeaMonkey, but I may be wrong.  I also miss this feature currently.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

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Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:00:25 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/12/2017 7:35 AM:


https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more than) 
you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are considered 
"new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator for closed 
threads with _new_ messages, also.

[...]
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish


I'm not familiar with Stylish.  When it was first mentioned I thought it 
was an add in to SeaMonkey, but it seems to be something more general.  
In fact, when I read "help" it says it is for Chrome and Firefox and 
doesn't mention SeaMonkey.


If you have trouble with the userstyles.org site you could add the style 
manually to your Stylish [1] addon:


@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;);


@-moz-document url("chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul") {

  .icon-holder[BiffState="NewMail"][IsServer="true"],
  .icon-holder[NewMessages="true"],
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(biffState-NewMail, isServer-true),
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(biffState-NewMail, 
subfoldersHaveUnreadMessages-true, closed),

  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true),
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
color: green;
  }

  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected, focus) {
color: -moz-CellHighlightText;
  }

}

You could also use the "userChrome.css" [2] for that purpose, though it 
has inherent flaw [3] making such kind of "overlay" style customization 
much more difficult (using !important [4] declarations).


[2] http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676054
[4] 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Specificity#The_!important_exception


When I visit the page you link to,  the page never fully loads with a 
notice at the bottom it is waiting for googleads.g.doubleclick.net...  I 
see an ad pretending to be a download link which tries to get me to 
install what may well be malware.  Then I see a smaller box that says 
"Install with Stylish" which takes me to a page of Firefox add-ons 
showing Stylish.  Is this what I am supposed to install into SeaMonkey?  
One of the two reviews says,


Whoever taken over this plugin is destroying it.

Selling user info, making a buggy website, plugin still missing basic 
functionality.


It's amazing that it is still holding up.


Should I be concerned?

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

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Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:35:13 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:


Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator 
for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


Minor fix for selected items applied additionally.  If you had it 
installed already the page should provide "Update Style" button now.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

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Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:53:57 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages 


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.).  It 
might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your location 
yet, also.


You may also try: https://userstyles.org/styles/143818

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

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Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar 
indicator for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.).  It 
might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your location 
yet, also.


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Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator 
for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


– Stanimir


 Original Message 
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 00:44:53 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov
Subject: Re: Seamonkey Icons
Message-ID: 
<news://news.mozilla.org/rmednxivappltajenz2dnuu7-cxnn...@mozilla.org>


Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:02:37 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/5/2017 2:37 PM:

Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:06:10 -0400, /rickman/:

Yeah, but nothing at the thread level and nothing in the folder pane to 
make groups with new messages stand out.  Unread is not the same as 
"new".


I recall in T-bird they would color the group name in green to show 
it had new posts.


The suggested styling customization achieves just that in the thread 
pane:


http://i.imgur.com/GUIvtiR.png

As you may see from the screenshot the same could be achieved in the folder 
pane also.  It seems we're going too off-topic with the coloring here, so 
you may wish to start a new thread on it, or just search the web to find 
past discussions on it.


I'm not sure there is anything to discuss further.  You continue to 
discuss the thread pane while I am talking about the folder pane.  You 
discuss unread posts while I am talking about *new* posts.


O.k.  So you appear to want:

http://i.imgur.com/MSTAPRA.png

In the next days I'll provide this as Stylish [1] style with 
customizable color, pretty much like:


https://userstyles.org/styles/126461/mail-compose-quote-color

(press the "Advanced Style Settings" to change the color)

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish

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Re: Seamonkey Icons

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:02:37 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/5/2017 2:37 PM:

Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:06:10 -0400, /rickman/:

Yeah, but nothing at the thread level and nothing in the folder pane to 
make groups with new messages stand out.  Unread is not the same as 
"new".


I recall in T-bird they would color the group name in green to show 
it had new posts.


The suggested styling customization achieves just that in the thread 
pane:


http://i.imgur.com/GUIvtiR.png

As you may see from the screenshot the same could be achieved in the folder 
pane also.  It seems we're going too off-topic with the coloring here, so 
you may wish to start a new thread on it, or just search the web to find 
past discussions on it.


I'm not sure there is anything to discuss further.  You continue to 
discuss the thread pane while I am talking about the folder pane.  You 
discuss unread posts while I am talking about *new* posts.


O.k.  So you appear to want:

http://i.imgur.com/MSTAPRA.png

In the next days I'll provide this as Stylish [1] style with 
customizable color, pretty much like:


https://userstyles.org/styles/126461/mail-compose-quote-color

(press the "Advanced Style Settings" to change the color)

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish

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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:06:10 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/5/2017 1:52 PM:

Note the icons are not the only style indicator for unread messages.  In the 
message/thread pane all unread messages appear in bold, and then collapsed 
threads which contain new unread messages appear underlined, for example.  
Folders (the folder pane) with unread messages also appear in bold, and get 
additional unread messages count in parentheses as a suffix to the folder 
label, also.


Here's a customization suggestion (via "userChrome.css" [1]) to make the 
unread messages more visible:


https://support.mozilla.org/bg/questions/1022969

Adjust the 'color: #00' declaration as 'color: blue', for example, to 
suit your needs.


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css


Yeah, but nothing at the thread level and nothing in the folder pane to 
make groups with new messages stand out.  Unread is not the same as "new".


Please re-read the first part of my reply.

I recall in T-bird they would color the group name in green to show it 
had new posts.


The suggested styling customization achieves just that in the thread pane:

http://i.imgur.com/GUIvtiR.png

As you may see from the screenshot the same could be achieved in the 
folder pane also.  It seems we're going too off-topic with the coloring 
here, so you may wish to start a new thread on it, or just search the 
web to find past discussions on it.


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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Mon, 5 Jun 2017 10:12:37 -0400, /rickman/:

No, not the triangles.  Each newsgroup in the folder pane has an icon 
next to the name which shows the state of the group.  I see it change 
from a pair of text balloons to a pair of text balloons with a green 
arrow when there is a new post to the group.  Or I should say I *almost* 
see it.  It is very small and it is pushing the limit of what I can see 
without a magnifying glass.  The message threads and individual messages 
in the message pane have similar icons which change with their status.


The fact the OP is asking about the meaning of those icons hints they 
are visible enough to have his/her attention.


Note the icons are not the only style indicator for unread messages.  In 
the message/thread pane all unread messages appear in bold, and then 
collapsed threads which contain new unread messages appear underlined, 
for example.  Folders (the folder pane) with unread messages also appear 
in bold, and get additional unread messages count in parentheses as a 
suffix to the folder label, also.


Here's a customization suggestion (via "userChrome.css" [1]) to make the 
unread messages more visible:


https://support.mozilla.org/bg/questions/1022969

Adjust the 'color: #00' declaration as 'color: blue', for example, 
to suit your needs.


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css

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Re: interleaved plain text email replies eat newlines

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Mon, 5 Jun 2017 03:44:22 -0400, /Felix Miata/:


Does anyone know a workaround for this?
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/bnew20170523.png
It shows the first blank line as expected, but the next two disappeared.


[workaround] Save as draft; preview draft – delete, re-insert new-lines 
if necessary.



I'm using the 2.48b1 build ID 20170329182716 with
mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support true
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed false

I think this is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1329724
but only a GTK2 build will work for me, so NAICT, >2.48 is out.

Once upon a time I could use Toggle Word Wrap to produce email that respects my 
linefeed wishes, but it broke several releases back. :-(


SeaMonkey 2.49 has format=flowed sending bug fixed:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456053

so you may give it a try.

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Re: Peculiar/atypical email view -- exists? and/or feasible??

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Sat, 3 Jun 2017 10:05:31 -0500, /Richard Owlett/:

Using the "Search Messages" item on the drop-down menu WILL retrieve 
all messages with the specified Reference.

*HOWEVER* the list format of "Search Messages" can be inconvenient.


Does "Search Folder" solve this inconvenience?  You could 
thread/group results as with any other mail folder.  Just use "Save 
as Search Folder" button in the "Search Messages" dialog.


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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Sat, 3 Jun 2017 17:40:36 -0400, /rickman/:

OR... simple documentation could be created for the program.  It has not 
escaped my or others' attention that while many software projects 
produce decent software, decent documentation is sadly lacking.  
Personally, I find the entire support network of Mozilla to be difficult 
to understand and navigate.  SeaMonkey is no exception.


Unfortunately SeaMonkey is being developed and supported by very few 
volunteers in their spare time (hats off).


If someone wanted to help with development, how would you suggest that 
be done?


From the SeaMonkey project home page:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/
⤷ "Community and Support" 
⤷ "Development" 
  ⤷ "Getting Involved with SeaMonkey" 



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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Fri, 2 Jun 2017 01:22:45 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:58:56 -0700, /Mozillian/:

Explain to me how this is relevant to SeaMonkey and what the MEANING 
is for its use in SeaMonkey.


"how this is relevant to SeaMonkey"

It has described couple of SeaMonkey internals.

"what the MEANING is for its use in SeaMonkey"

If you're tech-savvy enough you could use this internals knowledge to 
better customize SeaMonkey to your specific needs, for example.


Note I've also given the following explanation:


You would see images like:

chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-closed.png
chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-new-closed.png

They indicate a message thread, and generally mean that – there are 
multiple messages in a thread.  The one with the green arrow indicate 
there are unread messages in the thread. 


If you can't understand some or all of it – please state so.  Then ask a 
more specific question like "What a message thread is?", or "What's 
unread message?", though I think all of it is pretty straightforward to 
comprehend if you have basic email usage experience.


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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:58:56 -0700, /Mozillian/:

Explain to me how this is relevant to SeaMonkey and what the MEANING is 
for its use in SeaMonkey.


"how this is relevant to SeaMonkey"

It has described couple of SeaMonkey internals.

"what the MEANING is for its use in SeaMonkey"

If you're tech-savvy enough you could use this internals knowledge to 
better customize SeaMonkey to your specific needs, for example.


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Re: Seamonkey Icons

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Fri, 26 May 2017 09:48:19 -0700, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 5/28/2017 11:11 AM:

Fri, 26 May 2017 09:48:19 -0700, /MozUser/:


Look here
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/img-screen/mailnews_overview.png

Icons under the "View:" in a column to the left of the column header 
"Subject" in the posting message area.

That shows in this image an indicator if there are
   an icon - post responses hidden or expanded
   no icon - no post responses yet.

In each response there is an icon with a down arrow shown here.

But I see different icons that I cannot describe very well.
There is nothing in the posts that would help indicate what these 
icons mean.


e.g. there is one where all post responses are not bolded and the OP 
post has a multiple thingy icon with what looks like an eye below it.


Also OP posts have an underline if the OP was read but responses are 
unread.


Where are these icons defined ?  What do they mean ?


They are defined in:

chrome://messenger/skin/threadPane.css

You would see images like:

chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-closed.png
chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-new-closed.png

They indicate a message thread, and generally mean that – there are 
multiple messages in a thread.  The one with the green arrow indicate there are 
unread messages in the thread.


Ask an engineer a question...

I think he means where is the documentation on the meaning of each icon.


Alright.  I probably got confused by OP's:


SPECIFICALLY please, not just "over yonder" in some doc.


Searching for "thread" (w/o the quotes) in the SeaMonkey help reveals 
couple of related topics.  There I find the button in question is called 
"Thread button", etc.


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Re: New user - with questions

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Fri, 26 May 2017 21:31:19 -0400, /rickman/:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 5/26/2017 8:51 PM:

rickman wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of
messages and postings, I have not found a way to change the size
of text in such things as the list of messages; this makes SM very
difficult to use an a large high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the
post subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting
serious eyestrain.


On my Windows system, that's a function of the operating system.
Right-click an empty area of the desktop, choose "Properties" (Win7:
"Personalize"), and you can configure the font sizes of menu items in
all programs at once.


I've already set that for Windows.  This program behaves differently 
from other apps including *T-Bird* which shares a common code base but 
not the details of the look.



On your system (which OS?), is this peculiar to SeaMonkey, or are all
menu items in all programs equally hard to read? If it's a global issue,
it needs a global solution; it makes no sense to customize every program
separately.


There are some apps which are not coded to work with the Windows 
setting.  So they are still very small.  Eudora is one.  It is a program 
that has not had any updates for over 15 years.


SeaMonkey does use the "message-box" system font in its UI:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font#Syntax
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font#message-box
chrome://global/skin/global.css

window,
page,
dialog,
wizard,
prefwindow {
  -moz-appearance: window;
  background-color: -moz-Dialog;
  color: -moz-DialogText;
  font: message-box;
}

Unfortunately there's no obvious way to customize that using Windows 10 
, for example.


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Re: Seamonkey Icons

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Fri, 26 May 2017 09:48:19 -0700, /MozUser/:


Look here
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/img-screen/mailnews_overview.png

Icons under the "View:" in a column to the left of the column header 
"Subject" in the posting message area.

That shows in this image an indicator if there are
   an icon - post responses hidden or expanded
   no icon - no post responses yet.

In each response there is an icon with a down arrow shown here.

But I see different icons that I cannot describe very well.
There is nothing in the posts that would help indicate what these icons 
mean.


e.g. there is one where all post responses are not bolded and the OP 
post has a multiple thingy icon with what looks like an eye below it.


Also OP posts have an underline if the OP was read but responses are 
unread.


Where are these icons defined ?  What do they mean ?


They are defined in:

chrome://messenger/skin/threadPane.css

You would see images like:

chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-closed.png
chrome://messenger/skin/icons/thread-new-closed.png

They indicate a message thread, and generally mean that – there are 
multiple messages in a thread.  The one with the green arrow indicate 
there are unread messages in the thread.


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Re: Something missing in the UI

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Mon, 15 May 2017 22:18:17 +0200, /Stefan Blumenrath/:


no idea what happened, but I somehow lost the "thing to pull to change
the size of the message window"...

To make clear, what I miss, I add a picture:


How can I get it back?


Does pressing F8 (once, two, or three times) help?  That's View -> 
Layout -> Message Pane.


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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Thu, 4 May 2017 01:05:36 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 2 May 2017 00:06:18 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:


I still get the 403 error.

Are you using IPv6? I am!


Not sure.  Likely not as I'm going via modem/router set up by my ISP, 
although it appears I have it set up for the local network on my 
laptop, and desktop machines.  I'm still not convinced it's an IP 
related, as you seem to reach the site and it responds with an HTTP 
403.  What you get from executing (in a Command Prompt):


tracert scanmarker.com

?


C:\>tracert scanmarker.com

Tracing route to scanmarker.com [2400:cb00:2048:1::6819:4213]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

   1 3 ms<1 ms<1 ms  fritz.box [2001:470:d377:0:c225:6ff:fe2a:8bfa]
   217 ms17 ms18 ms  2001:470:1f14:386::1
   326 ms20 ms24 ms  ve213.core1.ams1.he.net [2001:470:0:7d::1]
   419 ms18 ms13 ms  ams-ix.as13335.net [2001:7f8:1::a501:3335:1]
   511 ms11 ms11 ms  2400:cb00:2048:1::6819:4213


O.k.  Being unable to try IPv6 myself I'll have to assume the problem 
could be IPv6 related.  Sorry to be of no further help here.


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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

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Sun, 7 May 2017 15:04:54 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

If you are in the EU a SEPA transfer in Euros is the best and will cost 
the recipient and you nothing or next to nothing. Otherwise the charges 
for the transfer may be higher that the sum transfered.


Thanks.  Just tried a SEPA transfer in EUR.  I guess it will be 
processed on Tuesday as tomorrow is a banking holiday here in Bulgaria.


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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

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Tue, 2 May 2017 15:24:03 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


What we need:

Setting up our own infrastructure, potentially in conjunction with
Thunderbird, will cost. If you feel you can contribute towards
future releases in this way, please consider donating:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/


I don't have PayPal account at the moment, and I don't really want 
to open one currently, so I'm considering the Bankwire transfer 
option.  What currency I should make the transfer in – EUR, USD, or?


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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Tue, 2 May 2017 00:06:18 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Here are screenshots of my attempt:

* http://i.imgur.com/zRP88h0.png
* http://i.imgur.com/ZUC6Hz2.png
* http://i.imgur.com/WQGvLRb.png
* http://i.imgur.com/jlsOQkW.png

You could see my UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49


I'm trying it with this UA string:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0


Can you confirm this is the actual string sent in your requests by 
observing the Network tab in the Developer tools (as seen on my 
screenshots)?  Could you try appending SeaMonkey/2.49 to that, and see 
if it makes any difference?



I still get the 403 error.

Are you using IPv6? I am!


Not sure.  Likely not as I'm going via modem/router set up by my ISP, 
although it appears I have it set up for the local network on my laptop, 
and desktop machines.  I'm still not convinced it's an IP related, as 
you seem to reach the site and it responds with an HTTP 403.  What you 
get from executing (in a Command Prompt):


tracert scanmarker.com

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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:34:01 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:41:14 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 Lightning/5.5


I did try that, but it didn't work for me. I'm using a Firefox UA to 
avoid problems with various Google websites.


FWIW, your UA string still contains "Lightning/5.5".


Yes it does. I removed the Lightning part, tried if it had the desired 
effect, and when it didn't I put it back.


May be it is just your entirely custom UA you've set up – it says it is 
Gecko rv:50.0, and then Firefox/52.0, while both versions should match.


Here are screenshots of my attempt:

* http://i.imgur.com/zRP88h0.png
* http://i.imgur.com/ZUC6Hz2.png
* http://i.imgur.com/WQGvLRb.png
* http://i.imgur.com/jlsOQkW.png

You could see my UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49


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Re: Honda Site Problem

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Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:24:05 -0700, /EE/:

On 2017-04-30, 08:51, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:40:52 -0400, /Tom Pamin/:

When I open this site in SM, I get a big blue square that covers 
almost the whole page. Works fine in IE. Any ideas?

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.aspx


As others have pointed out – poorly designed page, but you could work 
around it applying the following user style:


#pgwrapper > tbody > tr:nth-child(2) {
   height: 100%;
}


What is the pgwrapper?  I tried to highlight it from devtools, but that 
highlighted the whole page.


Yes, it's a TABLE element wrapping the whole of the page content:

http://i.imgur.com/kxQjGkF.png

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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:41:14 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:03:20 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

The problem is most likely that this site has an IPv6 address, but 
the site itself is not prepared for IPv6.


See my other reply to this thread.  The problem appears with the 
Lightning string included in the UA header.  I had experienced the 
same 403 Forbidden response initially, then I noticed I had 
Lightning/5.4 in my UA header.  Removing it using the appropriate 
configuration the site started opening for me as most others state 
here – get a redirect to http://scanmarker.com/


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 Lightning/5.5

I did try that, but it didn't work for me. I'm using a Firefox UA to 
avoid problems with various Google websites.


FWIW, your UA string still contains "Lightning/5.5".

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Re: Honda Site Problem

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Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:40:52 -0400, /Tom Pamin/:

When I open this site in SM, I get a big blue square that covers almost 
the whole page. Works fine in IE. Any ideas?

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.aspx


As others have pointed out – poorly designed page, but you could work 
around it applying the following user style:


#pgwrapper > tbody > tr:nth-child(2) {
  height: 100%;
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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:03:20 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

The problem is most likely that this site has an IPv6 address, but the 
site itself is not prepared for IPv6.


See my other reply to this thread.  The problem appears with the 
Lightning string included in the UA header.  I had experienced the same 
403 Forbidden response initially, then I noticed I had Lightning/5.4 in 
my UA header.  Removing it using the appropriate configuration the site 
started opening for me as most others state here – get a redirect to 
http://scanmarker.com/


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Re: Strange 403 Forbidden error

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Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:06:29 +0200, /Dirk Munk/:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I was trying to reach the following website:

http://www.scanmaker.com


sorry, typo!

This must be:

http://www.scanmarker.com


and I got a 403 Forbidden error.

Chrome shows no problem and I can view the website, very strange.

This is my setup:

Windows 10 64 bit, completely updated to the latest patches.

Seamonkey 2.50, 64 bit

Build identifier: 20170424091539

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 Lightning/5.4


* Open 
* Search for "calendar.useragent.extra" (w/o the quotes)
* Double-click the entry, and clear the value to empty string


IPv6 connection to website, using Hurricane Electric tunnel.

What can cause this problem?

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Re: Yahoo Forcing Switch from POP3 to EMAP on 3/31/2017. How to Convert?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Fri, 17 Mar 2017 23:54:54 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

I did not understand why Yahoo force the IMAP interface killing the POP 
interface.

With the pop, I can have on my pop account a great amount of old mails.
With the imap, I think that after a certain time Yahoo will tell me that 
I have reached the limit of my Yahoo mailbox forcing me to destroy some 
mails..


With IMAP you could always filter and move to local folders.

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Re: wrapping

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:24:13 +, /Richmond/:

Since posting that article, I found that if an email is saved as draft, 
it is saved in HTML format, even if it is a plain text message. So I 
guess it is converted from HTML to text as it is sent.


If it gets saved in HTML you should be really composing it in HTML. 
Have never seen such behavior of composing in plain text, and then 
message being saved as HTML draft, using any version of SeaMonkey.  Does 
any of this change if you press and hold Shift while pressing the 
"Compose" button? (this alternates the preferred composition format)



This may also be dependent on me using IMAP.


I'm almost exclusively using IMAP (except one POP3 account), and haven't 
experienced what you're describing.



For the time being I am going to use gnus for posting to mailing lists.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or intended behaviour. I just tried 
seamonkey 2.40 with a new profile and I see the same thing 
there. Compose a new message and type text, it does not wrap at 72 
characters.


This is quite weird.  I wonder if it could be related to the 
platform/environment you're running SeaMonkey in.


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Re: wrapping

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Tue, 03 Jan 2017 23:44:38 +, /Richmond/:

The problem seems to be that when I am typing a news article the text 
wraps as I type, but when I am typing an email message the text does not 
wrap, at least not until I get to the right hand side of the Window, 
which is quite a long way on this screen. This is true regardless of 
whether it is html or plain text.


Does this occur when you're replying to an existing message, or 
also/just when you're typing a new message?


Previously I've seen when replying to an existing message a quote block 
gets somehow extended to the text of the reply below it, and thus it 
doesn't get wrapped.  There are no visible quote markers ('>'), but one 
could usually notice this during the composition as the color of the 
reply text gets the same as the quoted text color (default blue), and 
not the regular text color.  One could usually get away from this state 
by cutting the already typed reply text, possibly hitting couple of 
Enters, and pasting the text over.


Don't know if that's your case, but see if it could help.  SM 2.49a is a 
development version, so you might try more recent builds to see if your 
current issues are resolved, also.


Anyway I sent myself an email and it seems to arrive wrapped, but I 
cannot tell where the wrapping occured, i.e. did it occur in the viewer, 
or before it was sent?


I posted to a mailing list and someone complained that I should wrap my 
text as a courtesy. But I cannot tell if it is going to be wrapped or 
not at the point I press send.


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Re: wrapping

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:44:26 +, /Richmond/:

Richmond  writes:

I have wrapping working for news articles. How to I get it working for 
email?


I am referring to wrapping during composition.

2.49a2


Here are the parameters I have set:

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support  true
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed  false


Not completely sure what you're asking, but I suspect you might be using 
HTML composition for regular email where wrapping occurs just at the 
viewport boundary.  Just configure you account(s) to not compose 
messages in HTML:


  * Either (right-click) select "Settings..." from the context menu of 
specific account in the Folder Pane, or via Mail window menu

  * Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings...

 / Composition & Addressing:

[ ] Compose messages in HTML format

(make sure it's unchecked)

You could start a HTML composition for individual message/reply by 
holding down Shift while pressing the Compose, or Reply button.


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Re: A bug with Find-in-Page?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:41:40 +, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


Which SeaMonkey version? Known bug for 2.48+. Bug 1320095.

Already fixed for 2.50a1 and will be fixed hopefully next week for 2.48 
and 2.49a2.


I'm currently using 2.49a2 on Windows, and 2.48 on Mac OS.  Richmond 
gave the bug reference in another reply, also – thanks.  I'm glad to 
hear the fix will make it to 2.48 and 2.49.


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Re: A bug with Find-in-Page?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:08:11 +, /Richmond/:

I tell a lie. There are errors in the error console window, but not in 
the xterm from which I launched seamonkey.


Yes, I observe the errors in both of:

Tools -> Web Development:

Error Console, and
Browser Console

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Re: A bug with Find-in-Page?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:18:04 -0500, /WaltS48/:

> I don't have to open the find bar twice, but do see that error message
> upon opening the find bar in 2.49a2 on Ubuntu.

Just to clarify, I don't have to open the find bar twice, but have to
press Ctrl+F once to get the bar shown, and once again to get the search
field in it focused.

> When I type SeaMonkey in the find bar, I see one occurrence highlighted
> in the "SeaMonkey Shop" link. When clicking "Highlight All" that result
> is  highlighted and this error appears:
> 
> Timestamp: 12/29/2016 02:12:23 PM
> Error: TypeError: this.browser.finder.onHighlightAllChange is not a
> function
> Source File: chrome://global/content/bindings/findbar.xml
> Line: 525

Just tried the "Highlight All" – seeing the same.  Multiple occurrences
of the search phrase don't get highlighted, but just the "current" one.

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Re: A bug with Find-in-Page?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:45:29 +, /Richmond/:


I am not sure if this is a bug, here is how to create it:

Quit Seamonkey if it is running.
Launch Seamonkey
Go to a web page, e.g. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/
Type ctrl-f to make the "find in page" box appear.
Then start typing seamonkey.

I would expect the letters to appear in the "find in page" box toward
the top left. But the letters don't appear, although the incremental
"find as you type" is working. However, typing ctrl-f again fixes it,
and I think it remains fixed until Seamonkey quits again.


Which SeaMonkey version?  I'm experiencing this with SeaMonkey 2.49a2, 
for example, but not with SeaMonkey 2.46:


TypeError: this.browser.finder.onFindbarOpen is not a function
open chrome://global/content/bindings/findbar.xml:736:13
startFind chrome://global/content/bindings/findbar.xml:1138:11
onFindCommand chrome://global/content/bindings/findbar.xml:1187:18
findInPage chrome://communicator/content/findUtils.js:54:5
BrowserFind chrome://navigator/content/browser.js:217:3
oncommand chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul:1:1

I always have to press Ctrl+F two times in order to open the "Find in 
page" bar, and then to focus the search field – no need to restart 
SeaMonkey, the "Find in page" bar just needs to be closed.


On closing the bar I always observe the following, also:

TypeError: this.browser.finder.onFindbarClose is not a function
close chrome://global/content/bindings/findbar.xml:760:11
oncommand chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul:1:1

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Re: View > Page Info > Media

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:50:23 +0200, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:44:51 -0800, /David E. Ross/:

When I select [View > Page Info > Media] on the menu bar, why are some 
entries gray instead of the same black as other entries?


I see data: URI images get listed in gray and italics.  Do you see any 
others like that?


In  I see:

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(broken) {
   font-style: italic;
   color: graytext;
}

I guess the data: URI images are mistaken for broken URLs.


FWIW, I see these appear as regular entries in Firefox.

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Re: View > Page Info > Media

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:44:51 -0800, /David E. Ross/:

When I select [View > Page Info > Media] on the menu bar, why are some 
entries gray instead of the same black as other entries?


I see data: URI images get listed in gray and italics.  Do you see any 
others like that?


In  I see:

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(broken) {
  font-style: italic;
  color: graytext;
}

I guess the data: URI images are mistaken for broken URLs.

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Re: Bugzilla's 1288911 & 1326077 -- Re: V2.46's quoting issues with wordwrapping in plain text format?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:22:01 +0100, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:

Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:59 AM, Ant wrote:

On 12/28/2016 10:46 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


Confirmed Stanimir's fix using userContent.css works.

  span[_moz_quote=true] {
display: block;
width: 98vw;
  }


Please kindly add it to my bug report about it. :)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288911 as the original 
since mine is a dupe. Also, it suggested using draft as a temporary 
workaround which worked for me! :D


Good thing its fixed in 52. 2.49 might become the first regular 
SeaMonkey ESR version till 2018.


The "userContent.css" workaround I've suggested I've already seen 
implemented in 2.49 (couldn't find the original Bug 1288911 previously). 
 SeaMonkey 2.49 (Gecko 52) is also the version which fixes one of the 
most annoying SeaMonkey 2.x Mail bugs for me:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456053

Note, this is still an issue in SeaMonkey 2.46 where some sort of 
workaround is to use HTML composition, and then send in plain text. 
This could often lead to unexpected transformations, however.


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Re: Is anyone else having problems playing Brightcove.net's videos?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:57:16 -1000, Desiree:

On 10/30/2016 9:34 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:52:20 -0700, Ant:


For an example with
http://players.brightcove.net/4221396001/V19oeQPdg_default/index.html?videoId=5189738190001 


... Video doesn't play. I tried a brand new SM profile too.


Plays for me using SeaMonkey 2.46 (Fx 49) and SeaMonkey 2.48a2 
(Fx 51).  May be it's time for you to upgrade the rather old 
SeaMonkey 2.40 (Fx 43).


SeaMonkey 2.40 is NOT old in that it is the current version.  I 
cannot update SeaMonkey to 2.46 internally and I NEVER update any 
other way as doing that invites problems I don't need.


Installing a candidate-release build (most likely) won't cause you 
troubles you don't need.  It is more likely you'll get troubles 
you'll otherwise find out about just after installing the final 
release build, which may be just the same as the release candidate. 
You could always try the other versions with another profile to see 
if extensions you generally use continue to work, etc.


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Re: Is anyone else having problems playing Brightcove.net's videos?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:52:20 -0700, Ant:

For an example with 
http://players.brightcove.net/4221396001/V19oeQPdg_default/index.html?videoId=5189738190001 
... Video doesn't play. I tried a brand new SM profile too.


Plays for me using SeaMonkey 2.46 (Fx 49) and SeaMonkey 2.48a2 (Fx 
51).  May be it's time for you to upgrade the rather old SeaMonkey 
2.40 (Fx 43).


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Re: View Selection Source Fails in SeaMonkey 2.40

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:19:35 -0700, /EE/:

Ray_Net wrote:


What happens about a possible solution for :
"View Selection Source Fails in SeaMonkey 2.40"

I had a very bad idea coming from 2.38 to 2.40 :-(

Now I am at:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40


That is fixed in SeaMonkey 2.45 and 2.46.  I have been using Tinderbox 
comm-release builds for awhile because I got tired of waiting for the 
next official release to come out.


I've switched to SeaMonkey/2.48a2 on both of Windows and Mac since 
couple of days now, and I haven't had any problems so far:


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/

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Re: page modified date

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 9 Oct 2016 13:35:24 -0600, Jim:

Is there anyway to determine the date and time when a web page was 
last modified?


On SM, I went to View --> Page Info
Under the "General" tab, it has a "modified" field, but this just 
gives the current date and time, for when the web page was 
opened.  I thought this may be because the page was retrieved from 
the "cache", so I went to a profile where the web page hadn't yet 
been loaded, but when I loaded the page, it also just gave me the 
date and time it was loaded.


Is it even possible to determine the modification date and time 
for a web page, on the receiving end?


BTW, looked at the "page source" and didn't see this information 
in the code.


It's not in the page source but in the HTTP headers.  If you're 
getting just the current date and time in the Page Info then the 
page doesn't supply Last-Modified information, and is likely 
dynamically generated, although the content may appear static.  Try 
this one:


https://www.w3.org/TR/html4/

In Page Info I'm seeing:

Modified: 13 март 2000 г. 16:38:32 ч.

(sorry for the Cyrillic)

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Re: Replacement for addons (SM 2.46)

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 9 Oct 2016 11:35:58 -0700, NoOp:

On 10/8/2016 9:15 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


https://bitbucket.org/stanio/mnenhy/downloads

mnenhy-0.8.6.1.2-stanio.xpi

This one is linked from:

https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26256#c2


That last link give me:

www.mozdev.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate expired on Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:39 AM. The
current time is Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:34 AM.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE


Yes, I've got the same.  I've ignored the error for the current session 
in order to open the bug link.  I have no control over the mozdev.org 
site operation and maintenance, I'm just an user.


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Re: Replacement for addons (SM 2.46)

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

[Stealing back from mozilla.general for the benefit of the OP.]

Thu, 6 Oct 2016 01:47:01 +0200, /Hartmut Figge/:

Stolen from support.seamonkey. Sometimes I'm still reading there via 
gmane. Because I doubt anyone else but me can answer a part of the 
question and I'm refusing to write to support.general, I'm answering here.


Petr Voralek:


   Hello!

  Can anyone recommend compensation for these addons?
They stopped working (partially or completely) in the new versions of 
the SeaMonkey, and they are very important to me... :^(

Launchy http://gemal.dk/mozilla/launchy.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/launchy/

Mnenhy  https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/mnenhy/

Dictionary Search   https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/dictionarysearch/
(or smth like http://twofoos.org/content/smartsearch/)

Scriptish   https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/scriptish/

SixOrNothttps://addons.mozilla.org/addon/sixornot/
(other similar addons disregarded proxy)


YouTubeCenter   https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/youtube-center/
https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter/wiki

  Especially Launchy and Mnenhy are absolutely essential for me... 


There is a version of Mnenhy with a private patch. It was uploaded as 
answer in a thread in a German NG. Seems to work OK for others, but, 
it is still a private patch. ;)


http://www.triffids.de/pub/mnenhy/0.8.6.1.h2/ 


Petr, you could try this version, although I haven't found substantial 
differences with mine.


In my opinion the differences I'm seeing are more likely to cause 
Hartmut's version not working in some cases mine should address.


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