Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?
Daniel wrote on 12/2/2020 8:12 PM: flyguy wrote on 3/12/2020 2:21 AM: I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - this is not a newbie's uninformed question. flyguy, when you think about it, SeaMonkey is just one program, so when in the "Mail & News" screen, you click on a link another part of the one program starts up to display that screen!! However, there used to be a preference which you could change so that, when you clicked a link in the "Mail & News" screen, the link would show in your chosen Browser. Unfortunately, I think that preference has been removed/disabled. ;-( But, that raises the question, flyguy If the email part of SeaMonkey is based on Thunderbird and you want to use Chrome as your browser, why are you sticking with SeaMonkey and not switching to Thunderbird for your email?? I'm happy with SM email, so I'm avoiding the hassle of setting up a new email program. If it causes me problems in the future, I'll take a look at Thunderbird. So far, no problems, unlike the SM browser, which has had increasing problems with sites over the last couple of years that Chrome handles well. My wife hates SM with Facebook, like Chrome with Facebook, and that's what began our transition to Chrome. Chrome also seems to work easier and smoother; eg, auto updates. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?
Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 12/2/2020 3:38 PM: On 02/12/2020 15:21, flyguy wrote: I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - this is not a newbie's uninformed question. This is a long-standing (but not quite as long as your use of the program, even if that can't be longer than 1.5 decades) "feature": <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108455> Perhaps try this, which is the closest to a fix I've heard about: <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/> /df I started with Netscape and continued all the way to Seamonkey 2.53.4 so "decades" in that sense ;^) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?
Chris Ilias wrote on 12/2/2020 1:08 PM: On 2020-12-02 10:21 a.m., flyguy wrote: I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - this is not a newbie's uninformed question. Hi flyguy, If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will open in the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system default is set to. SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that. How about this extension I just discovered: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/ Are there any side effects from using this? Anyone here using it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?
I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - this is not a newbie's uninformed question. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.4 not loading Bissell website
EE wrote on 10/7/2020 11:40 AM: flyguy wrote: SM 2.53.4 won't load https://www.bissell.com/ - the status message is Read www.bissell.com Chrome loads it immediately. What could the problem be? Here's another one that won't load, yet works properly in Chrome: https://wingsandwheels.com/ Instead of the website, "403 Forbidden nginx" is displayed. The website worked in SM a couple months ago, but hasn't recently, with either 2.53.4 or 2.49.3 That first item is not even a web page. It is a script. The second one gives me the same result: forbidden. Chrome and Edge both load a website for the first, so it seems to be real. I suspected the second one (wingsandwheels) was ignoring SM, and that appears to be the case. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM window - no tabs - uses 40% of RAM
I noticed SM was using ~50% of my 8GB of RAM. I first closed the Email, which made little difference; Closing the tabs one by one until they were ALL closed, dropped the memory usage to 40%. Closing and reopening the empty window dropped the usage to 15%. What the heck is making the only window with nothing in it use 40%?! And how do I avoid it? It's a nuisance to close/open SM every time it starts to suck the socks off the RAM, but if I don't do it, the Total Ram usage exceeds 80%, and things get slow, and can even go "not Responding" for 5-30 seconds. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.53.4 not loading Bissell website
SM 2.53.4 won't load https://www.bissell.com/ - the status message is Read www.bissell.com Chrome loads it immediately. What could the problem be? Here's another one that won't load, yet works properly in Chrome: https://wingsandwheels.com/ Instead of the website, "403 Forbidden nginx" is displayed. The website worked in SM a couple months ago, but hasn't recently, with either 2.53.4 or 2.49.3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New York Times front page malfunctions
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 9/30/2020 10:46 AM: flyguy wrote: Nuno Silva wrote on 9/29/2020 2:29 AM: On 2020-09-28, flyguy wrote: Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM: On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote: The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on? The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work. I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3? I don't know the cause, but while the hamburger menu does nothing in 2.49.4 or 2.49.5, it does work with 2.53.3. It's worse than I thought: clicking an article link takes me to the article, but at the bottom, the "read comments" button is missing, along with dozens of pictures, links, and contact information. I don't Seamonkey has changed, as I'm using the same 2.49.4, and my wife is experiencing the same issue on her computer, also running 2.94.4, so apparently the NY Times has changed in the last week or so; Chrome, however, is handling the NY Times change just fine. I'll try updating, and hope that fixes the problem. The level you are using (as am I, don't ask) is 25 months old. You need to move on eventually. Right indeed! I backed up the profile, updated to 2.53.4, and it's all good again. Thanks, Lemuel, Nuno, and Don. Without the automatic updates, I lost the habit of updating. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New York Times front page malfunctions
Nuno Silva wrote on 9/29/2020 2:29 AM: On 2020-09-28, flyguy wrote: Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM: On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote: The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on? The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work. I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3? I don't know the cause, but while the hamburger menu does nothing in 2.49.4 or 2.49.5, it does work with 2.53.3. It's worse than I thought: clicking an article link takes me to the article, but at the bottom, the "read comments" button is missing, along with dozens of pictures, links, and contact information. I don't Seamonkey has changed, as I'm using the same 2.49.4, and my wife is experiencing the same issue on her computer, also running 2.94.4, so apparently the NY Times has changed in the last week or so; Chrome, however, is handling the NY Times change just fine. I'll try updating, and hope that fixes the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New York Times front page malfunctions
Nuno Silva wrote on 9/29/2020 2:29 AM: On 2020-09-28, flyguy wrote: Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM: On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote: The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on? The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work. I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3? I don't know the cause, but while the hamburger menu does nothing in 2.49.4 or 2.49.5, it does work with 2.53.3. It appears 2.49.4 and .5 have some issues that 2.53.3 fixes. Perhaps I should update, despite the potential inconvenience of the profile changes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New York Times front page malfunctions
Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM: On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote: The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on? The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work. I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New York Times front page malfunctions
The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site
EE wrote on 5/27/2020 1:49 PM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 SM has trouble with this site, but Chrome displays it properly: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The "processing" wheel never stops, and this error message is displayed: -- Unexpected Error An unexpected error occurred. If you continue to receive this error please contact your Tableau Server Administrator. Session ID: C45C773C1E6F46C6913E65340D18A29F-0:0 TypeError: window.performance.getEntriesByName(...)[0] is undefined -- The page looks correct, but the chart does not display the values for each data bar when I hover over it. So is it a SM problem, my particular setup for SM, or? And is there a way to make SM work with the site; eg, does the latest SM display the site properly? That page is working for me. I began to see the information on the graph after I clicked on it. What SM version are you and Gerry using? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
"Unexpected error" on CDC site
Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 SM has trouble with this site, but Chrome displays it properly: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The "processing" wheel never stops, and this error message is displayed: -- Unexpected Error An unexpected error occurred. If you continue to receive this error please contact your Tableau Server Administrator. Session ID: C45C773C1E6F46C6913E65340D18A29F-0:0 TypeError: window.performance.getEntriesByName(...)[0] is undefined -- The page looks correct, but the chart does not display the values for each data bar when I hover over it. So is it a SM problem, my particular setup for SM, or? And is there a way to make SM work with the site; eg, does the latest SM display the site properly? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
Hawker wrote on 5/25/2020 6:02 PM: On 5/25/2020 1:57 PM, flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? I think HD is seriously broken in FM 2.49 and 2.5x. As of now I can't open videos, pictures or see product preview images in search. The last of that broke about 2 weeks ago and the site started breaking about 3 months ago. It all works in FireFox bot not SM. I gave up trying to figure out what it was. That is my fear - that upgrading won't fix it. I feel like a trend is developing, as every week or two or three, another site fails to work on SM, but is fine with Chrome. This time it's the Home Depot videos, last time it was a site that displayed for a second then went blank (but was fine in Chrome), and before that a site where the buttons were invisible, but displayed in Chrome. My wife uses Chrome for Facebook, because SM makes it jump around or become sluggish. I've been using SM since Netscape went away - 20+ years - but it seems like it's getting creaky and tired. The email still seems good, though. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 5/25/2020 3:35 PM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? Try using the User Agent string from Chrome in SM. Here's the Chrome user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/81.0.4044.138 Safari/537.36 Can I use that directly for one of these from SM? general.useragent.override.www.google.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 general.useragent.extra.firefox;Firefox/43.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? > What's wrong? For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2. Oops. Forgot to show the link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a problem with SM setup and not the version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Home Depot videos don't play
Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Why isn't the memory recalimed by the system?
Windows 10 system This is not specifically a SM event, as Chrome also does it (and maybe other programs, but those two I've checked), but maybe there is a "fix" for SM. Typically, Task Manager will Show SM using about 30% memory, but closing it decrease total memory usage maybe 15-20%. What happened to the 10-15% of memory SM was supposedly using? Same thing happens if SM is opened: Task Manager will show it using, say, 25%, but total memory usage only goes up 10%. How can that be? And is there anything that could or should be done about it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
flyguy wrote on 5/23/2020 8:48 PM: I changed my disk cache from "SM manages size" to 50 MB, and disabled the prefetch. SM runs much better now, with less CPU and memory usage. Formerly I struggled to keep the memory usage under 80%; now it remains in the 50s and low 60s. No slowdowns, no more "Not Responding". I should note the usage mentioned is total for the machine, not just what SM is using, which is now in 15%-30% range, depending on the number of tabs and the sites. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
Doors wrote on 5/20/2020 10:00 AM: On Sun, 17 May 2020 05:40:47 -0700, flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the browser, too. It isn't just you. SM has always been a memory hog. I run it with disk cache disabled, set to 1Mb that is. Prefetching disabled, check page on every load. It exceeds 2Gb for me daily, at times spiking to 4Gb. Thank goodness for the restart button. The pattern I have noticed indicates not all memory is released when a page is closed. If a page takes 150Mb to render, 25-50Mb is not released. It could be an incomplete release list, or some automatic allocator that fails to report memory usage correctly. Not that FF is much better behaved. No idea on chrome, I won't allow it on my system. Still better than the mess that is FF. I am so glad I can kill tabs, I hate those things. I changed my disk cache from "SM manages size" to 50 MB, and disabled the prefetch. SM runs much better now, with less CPU and memory usage. Formerly I struggled to keep the memory usage under 80%; now it remains in the 50s and low 60s. No slowdowns, no more "Not Responding". ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 5/17/2020 7:11 AM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the browser, too. What does: - exiting the whole program (File -> Quit) - restarting it - Go -> Restore Previous Session (from the browser) do for your memory usage? Just to be clear, here's another example: - email and browser(1 tab) open: 26% memory usage (out 8GB) - email still open, close browser: 23% mem. usage - close email, open email only: 10% usage - begin this reply: 14% usage So, email is using an extra 13% for no apparent reason. And, 13% is significant, as I have only 8GB RAM. When usage gets to 80%, the computer becomes sluggish, and SM in particular can become "Not responding" for many seconds, or much longer and have to be closed with Task Manager. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 5/17/2020 7:11 AM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the browser, too. What does: - exiting the whole program (File -> Quit) - restarting it - Go -> Restore Previous Session (from the browser) do for your memory usage? That also seems to work, and is convenient enough, but it's still annoying to monitor the usage several times a day and go through the process. Is there a way to avoid the accumulation of memory SM uses that is not needed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the browser, too. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
NFN Smith wrote on 4/8/2020 4:38 PM: flyguy wrote: You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps upgrade your version of SM. I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select "disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes it to ~8%. So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having Adblock enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. That seems odd. Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable it for troublesome sites? If you're running Seamonkey 2.53.1, be aware that the release notes indicate that there's no current version of AdBlock Plus that's supported. For that kind of functionality, there is still uBlock Origin, where the dev continues to keep support for an XUL version. Take a look at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ and note that version 2.9.1 of Adblock Plus is known to cause memory and CPU issues, and it is recommended to switch to uBlock . I did that about a year ago, and I've found that while it took me a while to get used to uBlock's different philosophy and UI, I generally like it better than Adblock. Moving to uBlock may solve some of your problems, but perhaps not everything, especially if you have lots of blocking rules in place. I've found that I occasionally have resource issues, especially if I leave Seamonkey open overnight (and I normally leave my machine running 24/7). When that happens, Seamonkey tends to become less responsive, and a check of the Windows task manager shows lots of CPU activity and memory usage in excess of 1.5 GB. A few days ago, I was filling out a form that had a lot of entries (and where every entry had script processing). By the time I got to the end of the form, the last few entries were giving me script timeout errors. I do make quite a bit of use of extensions, but most of them are small. However, with the combination of uBlock and NoScript active, I'm inclined to believe that those (either individually or together) are the primary culprits. I have been long suspicious of the possibility of memory leaks, but that's only a guess. Last summer, I changed out my machine -- it has 16 GB of RAM in it and an SSD drive, and the high resource usage problem seems to be less. But I still have to remember either to make sure I close Seamonkey at the end of the day, or if I start the day and find it open, restarting before beginning working. Smith I've noticed SM using a lot of memory after a few days; restarting it can cut the memory use in half. I do leave it open at night, but the computer is sleeping then. Since so many sites now complain about me using an adblocker, I find I'm using it less and less, so my plan is to keep AdBlocker disabled and see how I like things. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Danny Kile wrote on 4/8/2020 7:31 AM: flyguy wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 4/7/2020 9:36 AM: flyguy wrote: Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is almost unaffected. https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ SeaMonkey CPU usage is 8% to 15%. My UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0. You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps upgrade your version of SM. I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select "disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes it to ~8%. So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having Adblock enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. That seems odd. Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable it for troublesome sites? I'm using AdBlock Plus 2.7.3, what version of AdBlock Plus are you using? I'm using 2.8.2, which is from 2016. The newest version 3.something of this year. I have auto-update selected, but apparently, it's not bothered to update itself. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Danny Kile wrote on 4/7/2020 9:36 AM: flyguy wrote: Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is almost unaffected. https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ SeaMonkey CPU usage is 8% to 15%. My UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0. You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps upgrade your version of SM. I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select "disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes it to ~8%. So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having Adblock enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. That seems odd. Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable it for troublesome sites? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
High CPU usage
Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is almost unaffected. https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Very high CPU usage on this website
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 2/19/2019 6:47 PM: flyguy wrote: Seamonkey 2.49.4 (Win 10 OS) CPU usage goes from about 5% to 65% after I load this cartoon website: https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/ Using Chrome, the same web site causes only a 5% rise in CPU usage. Every thing slows down, the fan comes on loudly - What the heck is going on with Seamonkey, and can it fixed? On my machine I started at 5-7%, then loaded the page, and it mostly stayed there, with occasional spikes to 30% at 30- to 60-second intervals. After a couple of minutes, it settled to 5-7% and stayed there. I suspect some ad-serving routine, which is blocked by my ad blocker. Do you use one? Yes, I do, and just before I read your post, I tried it with Adblocker enabled, and the CPU usage hardly changed after the page loading finished. That's the first time I've seen that interaction! Any idea why that would happen? Also odd to me: I don't have an ad blocker on Chrome, yet it wasn't affected - CPU usage went up only a bit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Very high CPU usage on this website
flyguy wrote on 2/19/2019 4:11 PM: Seamonkey 2.49.4 (Win 10 OS) CPU usage goes from about 5% to 65% after I load this cartoon website: https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/ Using Chrome, the same web site causes only a 5% rise in CPU usage. Every thing slows down, the fan comes on loudly - What the heck is going on with Seamonkey, and can it fixed? I tried on my wife's computer, also Win 10 and SM 2.49.4, and it worked well. I noticed she had Adblocker blocking the site ads, so I tried mine with Adblocker blocking the site ads, and ... now it works fine! Only few percent cpu usage. That's the first time I've seen that interaction! Any idea why that would happen? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Very high CPU usage on this website
Seamonkey 2.49.4 (Win 10 OS) CPU usage goes from about 5% to 65% after I load this cartoon website: https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/ Using Chrome, the same web site causes only a 5% rise in CPU usage. Every thing slows down, the fan comes on loudly - What the heck is going on with Seamonkey, and can it fixed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 not rendering tabs content and more
David E. Ross wrote on 3/3/2017 1:12 PM: On 3/3/2017 11:20 AM, flyguy wrote: I previously asked a similar question about tab content only, but the problem now affects more than that. This began after I installed 2.46 (previously using 2.42). Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of the page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. It even affects a "Search messages" window, with incomplete rendering along the top. It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25, 2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my computer. Hardware acceleration is not selected in SM. I ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please reboot, so I did. After a day or so, the improper rendering returned. The responses to my previous question were about the video driver, and I detail that above. To test if it is SM 2.46 that is causing the problem, perhaps I should revert to 2.42 (not sure how to do that)? Is this affecting Web pages or E-mail? Did you try this in Safe Mode? It affects web pages, but I haven't seen it affect email, other than the "search messages" window when I tried to search this forum. I'll try safe mode next time the problem occurs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.46 not rendering tabs content and more
I previously asked a similar question about tab content only, but the problem now affects more than that. This began after I installed 2.46 (previously using 2.42). Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of the page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. It even affects a "Search messages" window, with incomplete rendering along the top. It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25, 2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my computer. Hardware acceleration is not selected in SM. I ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please reboot, so I did. After a day or so, the improper rendering returned. The responses to my previous question were about the video driver, and I detail that above. To test if it is SM 2.46 that is causing the problem, perhaps I should revert to 2.42 (not sure how to do that)? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Rendering tab pages problem SM 2.46
The hardware acceleration was already unchecked, so that's not the problem. It did happen again; so far, I don't see any pattern to it. Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 2/24/2017 7:07 AM: I doubt it will be solved that way. Windows 10 and Intel graphics drivers are a match made in heaven. You can't tell which one is more buggy... I will never ever again buy a laptop with an Intel only graphics chip in it. If it comes back look under Preferences->Appearance->Content and see if unchecking 'Use hardware acceleration when available' makes a difference. FRG flyguy wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 2/22/2017 11:57 PM: Intel video drivers? They are junk and frequently cause these problems. See if newer ones are available. If other brand please also check if you have the latest driver installed. There were some major changes to suppor html5 better in between 2.40 and 2.46 and so buggy drivers cause more problems. Try disabling hardware acceleration. FRG flyguy wrote: flyguy wrote on 2/22/2017 3:51 PM: SM 2.46, Win 10, Samsung Activ 9 laptop. This began after I installed 2.46. Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. What can I do get the rendering correct all the time? It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25, 2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my computer. I just ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please reboot, so I did. No problems in the first three minutes... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Rendering tab pages problem SM 2.46
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 2/22/2017 11:57 PM: Intel video drivers? They are junk and frequently cause these problems. See if newer ones are available. If other brand please also check if you have the latest driver installed. There were some major changes to suppor html5 better in between 2.40 and 2.46 and so buggy drivers cause more problems. Try disabling hardware acceleration. FRG flyguy wrote: flyguy wrote on 2/22/2017 3:51 PM: SM 2.46, Win 10, Samsung Activ 9 laptop. This began after I installed 2.46. Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. What can I do get the rendering correct all the time? It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25, 2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my computer. I just ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please reboot, so I did. No problems in the first three minutes... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Rendering tab pages problem SM 2.46
Daniel wrote on 2/23/2017 1:50 AM: On 23/02/2017 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: flyguy wrote on 2/22/2017 3:51 PM: SM 2.46, Win 10, Samsung Activ 9 laptop. This began after I installed 2.46. Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. What can I do get the rendering correct all the time? It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. Flyguy, what happens if you reload the page?? Sometimes, the tabs I load are only partly rendered [Internet getting busy or some such! ;-) ], but re-loading the page fixes thing up! Reloading often fixes it, but not always. Oddly, when I clicked Reply to compose this, the email window was only partly rendered it. Closing it and trying again worked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I use seamonkey with win 10? is this possible?
Stephen wrote on 2/22/2017 8:31 PM: Yes, works well, though I'm having an issue with ver 2.46. Ver 2.42 did not have any issues. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Rendering tab pages problem SM 2.46
flyguy wrote on 2/22/2017 3:51 PM: SM 2.46, Win 10, Samsung Activ 9 laptop. This began after I installed 2.46. Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. What can I do get the rendering correct all the time? It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Rendering tab pages problem SM 2.46
SM 2.46, Win 10, Samsung Activ 9 laptop. This began after I installed 2.46. Two or three times a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of page (in another tab on the same window) I just left. Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again often renders the pages correctly. Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least. What can I do get the rendering correct all the time? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way of showing content from two tabs at the same time?
Richard Alan wrote on 2/18/2017 4:19 PM: Arnie Goetchius wrote: If I have two tabs open in the SM browser, is there any way to split the screen so that I can watch both tabs at the same time? The only way I know is to drag one of those tabs to an open spot on the desktop and then arrange the two windows side-by-side. I do this often. When I do that, I get a shortcut on the desktop, not a window. Double-clicking the shortcut opens in a tab in an existing window. Any ideas to make it work your way? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 12:13 PM: flyguy wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM: flyguy wrote: This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442 Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11. Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza places in the area, under which is a list of those places. Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab, which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked on. I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link the menu that's under the Google search box at the top. The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I can get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's user-agent to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not sufficient; it seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey from the user-agent string. To do that: 1. Enter about:config in the address bar 2. Accept the warning 3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent" 4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to "true" (double-click to toggle if it's not) 5. Right-click > New > String 6. For the name, enter "general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or whichever local version of google you get directed to) 7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0" Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which more accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version corresponding to your SeaMonkey version, as follows: 1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking or "general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in about:config) 2. Help > About SeaMonkey 3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the "SeaMonkey/" at the end. 4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred setting (it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version into the user-agent string for step 3). I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland wa" (no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When I click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google search box at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has: Rating Pizza Hours Clear Filters X The status bar reports "Done". Better than a blank page, but not quite there :^( After a bit more experimenting, it seems that it may be necessary to check a few other settings as well: - Enable JavaScript for Google (in case you've disabled it, or using a script blocker like NoScript) - Set the user-agent for www.google.co.uk (or your local variant) to a Firefox user-agent - Turn OFF "Advertise Firefox compatibility" Yes - set the user-agent sting for Google to something indicating Firefox with no mention of SeaMonkey, and also turn OFF "Advertise Firefox compatibility" so that the default user-agent indicates SeaMonkey with no mention of Firefox! That changing "Advertise Firefox compatibility" makes a difference suggests that there may be another domain involved which isn't affected by the specific user-agent override, but I can't work out what it is. I've been able to produce at least 3 different results depending on combinations of these settings. After changing the settings, go to www.google.com (it redirects to a local version, www.google.co.uk for me), search for "pizza", click one of the places listed under the small map, and depending on the combination of settings... 1. With JavaScript disabled: Another search results page, with the search term changed to the name of the place I clicked. 2. With JavaScript enabled, SeaMonkey default user-agent, with or without "Advertise Firefox compatibility": A menu bar but no content underneath. This sounds like what you're seeing now. I had assumed this is what you originally described as "another tab, which remains blank", but it now sounds like you really were seeing a completely blank page. 3. With JavaScript enabled, general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk set to a Firefox-only string (either th
Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM: flyguy wrote: This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442 Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11. Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza places in the area, under which is a list of those places. Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab, which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked on. I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link the menu that's under the Google search box at the top. The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I can get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's user-agent to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not sufficient; it seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey from the user-agent string. To do that: 1. Enter about:config in the address bar 2. Accept the warning 3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent" 4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to "true" (double-click to toggle if it's not) 5. Right-click > New > String 6. For the name, enter "general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or whichever local version of google you get directed to) 7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0" Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which more accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version corresponding to your SeaMonkey version, as follows: 1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking or "general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in about:config) 2. Help > About SeaMonkey 3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the "SeaMonkey/" at the end. 4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred setting (it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version into the user-agent string for step 3). I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland wa" (no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When I click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google search box at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has: RatingPizzaHours Clear Filters X The status bar reports "Done". Better than a blank page, but not quite there :^( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/10/2017 2:47 PM: flyguy wrote: This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442 Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11. I'm using SeaMonkey 2.46 on Windows. The server seems to be responding with a 403 (forbidden), with a zero-length body (not even an error message). It appears that having Lightning mentioned in the user-agent string prevents the page from being returned by the server. Looks like some dodgy user-agent sniffing. If you have the Lightning extension installed, you can prevent it from adding it's name to the user-agent string as follows: 1. Enter about:config in the address bar 2. Accept the warning 3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "calendar.useragent.extra" 4. Double-click the entry named "calendar.useragent.extra" 5. Delete the value (leaving it blank) and click OK After doing that, reload the timesmachine.nytimes.com page. If you don't have Lightning installed, perhaps it's some other extension adding something to the user-agent string and tripping up their dodgy sniffing. Bingo! I am using Lightning, and your fix worked for the NYT. I never would have found that solution. It did not affect how the browser deals with Google maps, unfortunately. Any ideas on that one? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
NYT article not loading, similar Google problem
This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442 Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11. Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza places in the area, under which is a list of those places. Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab, which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked on. I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link the menu that's under the Google search box at the top. Any ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update
Wolfgang Steger wrote on 1/6/2016 1:55 PM: flyguy schrieb: I get the message "Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update" when I use the "Check for updates..." command. It happens on two computers - Win 8.1 running SM 2.33.1 - XP running SM 2.32 What is going on? I've never had this problem before. Well known issue with older Seamonkey version, because of mozilla build certificate change and breakdown of seamonkey build system at the same time. Download complete installer version and use this for upgrading, later on automatic partial updates should work again. Thanks, I've been traveling for since Sep., and have ignored the updates. I didn't want to risk breaking something that's working while traveling, lest I turn the computer into a brick. Now that I'm home, I'll deal with it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update
I get the message "Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update" when I use the "Check for updates..." command. It happens on two computers - Win 8.1 running SM 2.33.1 - XP running SM 2.32 What is going on? I've never had this problem before. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Picture presentation displays only the first picture
This is for SM 2.33.1 running on Win 8.1 This page ... http://www.medicinenet.com/urinary_incontinence_pictures_slideshow/article.htm has a 21 picture presentation. When I click on the right icon, the text changes, but the picture remains unchanged. The presentation works on my win 8.1 machine using IE 11, and it works on my wife's XP machine using SM 2.32. I've compared our Preferences, and set mine to hers, one by one (there were very few differences), but hers still works and mine doesn't What could be the matter? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Picture presentation displays only the first picture
flyguy wrote on 6/28/2015 7:02 PM: This is for SM 2.33.1 running on Win 8.1 This page ... http://www.medicinenet.com/urinary_incontinence_pictures_slideshow/article.htm has a 21 picture presentation. When I click on the right icon, the text changes, but the picture remains unchanged. The presentation works on my win 8.1 machine using IE 11, and it works on my wife's XP machine using SM 2.32. I've compared our Preferences, and set mine to hers, one by one (there were very few differences), but hers still works and mine doesn't What could be the matter? More info: disabling AdBlock doesn't help my computer, but it works on the XP machine even with AdBlock enabled ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Replying or Forwarding changes original font size
When I Reply or Forward a message, the message font sizes are too small. I can change the font size using Preferences/Appearance/Fonts/Minimum font size, but that screws up the way some web sites display. Also, the font size used to compose in Newsgroups (like I'm doing for this message) is too small, but I don't know how to set it to a font size I want without disturbing the display of something else. Is there anyway to adjust font sizes in the mail and newsgroup composition windows independently? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.33 operating slowly, scrolling jerky, typing delayed
flyguy wrote on 4/8/2015 12:17 PM: Ever since I updated to 2.33, SM has responded slowly: - I can easily get 5 to 8 characters ahead when typing an email, URL, or Google search - switching tabs can take 2 seconds or longer. - Satellite loops are jerky, instead of smooth like before, or like the thing in IE 11 - Auto-scroll works now, but the scrolling is jerky There's more, but that's the idea. This is on Windows 8. SM 2.32 was fine on the same machine. What the heck is going on? This might not be directly related to SM. I've discovered that Windows Index Search seems to slow things down, even if it's using only 10% of CPU time. Rebuilding the index on it has returned SM to normal operation. I still don't know why IE 11 was not affected, and SM 2.33 was. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.33 operating slowly, scrolling jerky, typing delayed
Ever since I updated to 2.33, SM has responded slowly: - I can easily get 5 to 8 characters ahead when typing an email, URL, or Google search - switching tabs can take 2 seconds or longer. - Satellite loops are jerky, instead of smooth like before, or like the thing in IE 11 - Auto-scroll works now, but the scrolling is jerky There's more, but that's the idea. This is on Windows 8. SM 2.32 was fine on the same machine. What the heck is going on? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.26: some buttons on this page don't work
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 12/19/2014 10:04 AM: EE wrote: flyguy wrote: This page has several buttons that work in IE 11 but not in SM 2.26 http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/news-media/media~item=jcr%3A57bf72c8-0fd9-4ae5-ad32-04eec93bf4e2~ref=b47a77fc-09ab-4801-aac0-537232da17b3~.html Specifically, the i button in the lower right of the large image, and the SEE ALL and left/right arrow buttons a little below the i button. I've turned off Adblock, but that doesn't make the buttons work. Is there a way to make it work, or is this a SM problem? Those work for me. I use Adblock Plus. They all WFM, too. Is the OP blocking javascript? I have Javascript enabled for the browser, but have not tried Safe mode, restart with add-ons disabled, or a test profile. I'll try those next. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.26: some buttons on this page don't work
This page has several buttons that work in IE 11 but not in SM 2.26 http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/news-media/media~item=jcr%3A57bf72c8-0fd9-4ae5-ad32-04eec93bf4e2~ref=b47a77fc-09ab-4801-aac0-537232da17b3~.html Specifically, the i button in the lower right of the large image, and the SEE ALL and left/right arrow buttons a little below the i button. I've turned off Adblock, but that doesn't make the buttons work. Is there a way to make it work, or is this a SM problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.26: some buttons on this page don't work
flyguy wrote, On 12/19/2014 7:16 AM: This page has several buttons that work in IE 11 but not in SM 2.26 http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/news-media/media~item=jcr%3A57bf72c8-0fd9-4ae5-ad32-04eec93bf4e2~ref=b47a77fc-09ab-4801-aac0-537232da17b3~.html Specifically, the i button in the lower right of the large image, and the SEE ALL and left/right arrow buttons a little below the i button. I've turned off Adblock, but that doesn't make the buttons work. Is there a way to make it work, or is this a SM problem? I forgot to mention: using Win 8.1 I also just noticed IE 11 has problems the page, but different ones than SM: some of the images do not load. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.31 still crashing when compacting IMAP folders
WaltS48 wrote, On 12/16/2014 5:51 PM: On 12/16/2014 08:13 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 12/16/2014 2:44 PM: On 12/16/2014 02:32 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 12/16/2014 1:04 PM: On 12/16/2014 12:21 PM, Gabriel wrote: Hi, does anyone know if/when SeaMonkey will stop crashing every time an IMAP folder is compacted? Since v. 2.29.1 (see my thread i_mdnr52dq-um7ljnz2dnuu7-uwdn...@mozilla.org) the issue was not resolved! Also , is something broken with the Mozilla Crash Reports sysmen? I can't find any of my submitted crashes. thank you G. Oops! Disregard that other post. SeaMonkey doesn't have about:crashes so you won't see anything listed in Help Troubleshooting Information. Works for me. And Troubleshooting lists crash reports for last two days. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31 I might not have it because I have the openSUSE build installed and they ripped it out. The openSUSE Firefox build does have it. SMDH Uh, why did they rip it out? Who or what did that serve? Maybe they did not. It is an old profile. Looking at about:about in a new test profile and I don't see about:crashes in the list. Here are the configure arguments for the openSUSE build: Configure arguments --enable-application=suite --libdir=/usr/lib64/seamonkey --prefix=/usr --with-l10n-base=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/l10n --disable-tests --enable-release --enable-stdcxx-compat --enable-elf-hack --disable-debug --disable-dtd-debug --enable-libxul --with-system-nspr --with-system-nss --with-system-zlib --enable-ldap-experimental --disable-installer --disable-mochitest --disable-crashreporter --disable-updater --enable-startup-notification --enable-system-hunspell --enable-libproxy --with-external-source-dir=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/seamonkey SM 2.26 on a Win 8.1 computer - about:about has an about:crashes item; clicking it opens a tab with a list of 18 crashes reports over the last three months. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote, On 12/12/2014 2:40 PM: flyguy wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote, On 12/11/2014 1:42 PM: flyguy wrote: Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding? It should pick up the encoding from the Content-Type header of the email. Having said that, at one time I used to find the message pane in the main window didn't switch encodings when moving between emails, but pressing F8 a couple of times to hide and then show it again sorted it out. Haven't noticed that problem for a long time now. Even then, fully opening emails in a separate window did use the correct encoding. Alternatively, it could be that the problematic emails have the wrong encoding, or perhaps no encoding, specified in the header. e.g. the sending application has specified iso-8859-1 in the header but actually encoded the content in utf-8. If that's the case, at least you've got an option to manually override the encoding so that it can be displayed correctly ;o) I forgot to mention I'm using SM 2.26 on a Win 8.1 computer. For the record, I'm currently using SM 2.26.1 on Windows Vista. The email has these lines in it: I hope you mean when looking at the message source; you shouldn't see these lines when reading normally (I do occasionally see some of the source in the message pane, but pressing F8 a couple of times to hide and show the message pane fixes that - which you mention below doesn't help in your case so I don't think that's it). Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_1762143897 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed ... and two or three with Content-Type in parenthesis. The content following Content-Type: text/plain... will be the plain text version. If there's a text/html alternative SeaMonkey will probably display that instead, unless you've set View Message Body As Plain Text. I'm not sure what you mean about Content-Type being in parentheses, but that may be the problem. It would be interesting to see the complete structure of one of those emails. If you're not sure what to look for and there's nothing in one of them you don't mind sharing, it's probably easiest to View Message Source, copy the source into a plain text document, and upload it somewhere (or send as an attachment, but copy my address - mozilla-lists.mbourne at spamgourmet.com - if you do that as I think the mailing list strips attachments). Otherwise you could try picking out the parts defining the structure and just copy them into an email. Basically you'd be looking for: - the main Content-Type header - any blocks starting with one of the separators mentioned as the boundary parameter to any of the Content-Type lines, up to the next blank line (these blocks will probably contain another Content-Type header and possibly others) For an email with attachments as well as plain text and HTML alternative parts, there should be something like the following; text in square brackets is notes I've added: [several headers] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_006_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ [several more headers] --_006_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ --_000_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [content as plain text] --_000_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [content as HTML] --_000_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_-- --_006_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_ Content-Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document; name=filename.docx Content-Description: filename.docx Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=filename.docx; size=188079; creation-date=Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:30:02 GMT; modification-date=Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:30:02 GMT Content-ID: 88d57fea92099c4c89f4f2d3f8011...@eurprd07.prod.outlook.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 [attachment] --_006_141836474851268922sparsholtacuk_-- Pressing f8 has no effect; neither does opening the email in it's own window. I suspected it wouldn't, but thought it worth mentioning in case it helped. I just forwarded the email to your spamgourment address. Oddly, tonight SM is displaying the email properly. The View Character encoding shows as Unicode after I click on the email, even if I set it to Western beforehand. I'm fairly sure I didn't change anything. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?
Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote, On 12/11/2014 1:42 PM: flyguy wrote: Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding? It should pick up the encoding from the Content-Type header of the email. Having said that, at one time I used to find the message pane in the main window didn't switch encodings when moving between emails, but pressing F8 a couple of times to hide and then show it again sorted it out. Haven't noticed that problem for a long time now. Even then, fully opening emails in a separate window did use the correct encoding. Alternatively, it could be that the problematic emails have the wrong encoding, or perhaps no encoding, specified in the header. e.g. the sending application has specified iso-8859-1 in the header but actually encoded the content in utf-8. If that's the case, at least you've got an option to manually override the encoding so that it can be displayed correctly ;o) I forgot to mention I'm using SM 2.26 on a Win 8.1 computer. The email has these lines in it: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_1762143897 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed ... and two or three with Content-Type in parenthesis. Pressing f8 has no effect; neither does opening the email in it's own window. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
History deletions make SM 2.26 unresponsive
1) I discovered my History listings of links visited extended to 1.5 years ago. There doesn't seem to be any way to have visited links automatically deleted after, say, 90 days, or 180 days, etc. 2) If I click the older than six months icon, sort on date, then select 6 months of files, SM becomes unresponsive, except every 20 seconds or so it displays a dialogue box with the message... --- A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. Script: chrome://Communicator/content/history/treeView.js:153 [ ] Don't ask me again [continue] [Stop script] -- Task manager shows the CPU operating at 40% - this is on an i7 core machine with 8 GB memory and 256GB SSD. The disk is not busy. 3) I can delete individual entries, or up to 20-30 at a time (but those take 15-20 seconds to complete). After each deletion, whether it's one link or 30, I have re-sort twice to get the links back in the correct visited order (by date); otherwise, they are all mixed up by date. I'm using Windows 8.1, but exactly the same thing happens on my wife's XP machine. Is there a bug? How should I handle History to avoid these problems? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing - SeaMoney only prints first page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 11/29/2014 2:15 PM: Looks like a WIX site. Proof again that making it easy doesn't make it good. Heh. I've seen their TV ads. No mention of works with any browser. I'd still be reluctant to blame SeaMonkey/Firefox for the problems. I don't think of it as blaming. I want a browser that is as tolerant of poor web design as possible, and If SM can make changes to improve it's tolerance - Great! Otherwise, I'll continue to keep at least IE and maybe another browser available for sites that SM doesn't handle well; alternatively, I could try to talk the site's webmaster into fixing stuff, but that sounds a like long shot. Historically, it's been my observation that printing is the weakest part of SM. If printing fails, IE has almost always been able to print it. Not this time though - IE 11 also fails! But what I don't understand is how a browser can display it properly on the screen, but can't put the same display onto paper. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.26: Map doesn't display
The map on this page does not display in my SM 2.6 http://www.yellowpages.com/listings/470061979/directions?reverse=0start=Richland%2C+WAend=2155+Stevens+Dr%2C+Richland%2C+WA+99354 I've disabled Adblock, and allow all cookies and images. It does display in IE 11. I haven't had this problem on other sites. What is keeping it from displaying the map? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.26: Map doesn't display
flyguy wrote, On 11/6/2014 11:33 AM: The map on this page does not display in my SM 2.6 http://www.yellowpages.com/listings/470061979/directions?reverse=0start=Richland%2C+WAend=2155+Stevens+Dr%2C+Richland%2C+WA+99354 I've disabled Adblock, and allow all cookies and images. It does display in IE 11. I haven't had this problem on other sites. What is keeping it from displaying the map? I forgot to mention: I'm using Windows 8.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey pdf
F Murtz wrote, On 10/27/2014 11:16 PM: flyguy wrote: F Murtz wrote, On 10/22/2014 8:13 PM: Seamonkey has suddenly stopped opening PDFs,Why? (I use foxit) I get a blank page that says Done. IE will open them. I had to go to EditPreferencesBrowserHelper Applications, find the: PDF document (application/document) PDF document (download/pdf) and set Action Use Foxit Reader etc to get PDFs to open in Foxit. It takes a time downloading and then presents me with a blank page with done at the bottom. When you click on the link to get the PDF, does SM ask if you want to open the file in Foxit, or save it? If it doesn't, I'm guessing your helper applications settings are still not correct. The blank page in SM is normal, but Foxit should open with your PDF if you selected open in Foxit. One other possibility: In Foxit, go to PreferencesDocuments and ensure In web browser, display PDF in Read mode is NOT selected. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ask to activate doesn't ask
WaltS48 wrote, On 10/25/2014 2:37 PM: On 10/25/2014 05:02 PM, flyguy wrote: I have Quicktime 7.7.6 set to Ask to activate in the Add-ons manager. When I select the player from a Open with menu (Win 8 on Samsung ATIV laptop), it just starts up - no asking. Shouldn't I be asked if I want to use it? I would think that if you were opening the content with Open with it will open the stand alone player application. If you are accessing a site with Quicktime content it will use the Quicktime plugin, and should Ask to Activate. Post a link to a web page for testing. I think you must be correct: web pages have been asking me to click to activate. And, now that I think about it, that's what should happen! Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Left-Right arrows missing in SM but not IE
Ray_Net wrote, On 10/25/2014 3:49 PM: WaltS48 wrote, On 25/10/2014 16:30: On 10/25/2014 10:14 AM, flyguy wrote: This is the page: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/opinion/gail-collins-once-again-guns.html The top of the page has a bar with the search, logo, log in, etc buttons . Below that is a ribbon with thumbnails and text links to columns and editorials. Using IE 11, hovering over the left side of the ribbon reveals left/right scrolling arrows to move the ribbon contents; using SM 2.26, there is space for the arrow buttons but they do not appear. Turning Adblock off in SM makes no difference, except an ad does appear below the ribbon that should have the arrows. My other add-ons are Fireform 0.7.4 and Lightning 3.1b1. How do I get the left/right arrows to appear with SM? The arrows appear for me using SeaMonkey 2.30. WFM too (SM 2.26.1) I've changed my image and cookies settings to allow everything, turned off Adblock, but still no arrows! Still a mystery. I just discovered the arrows are present on my wife's XP machine, also running 2.26, ADblock, and the same cookie, image, etc settings I use. Maybe it's a Win 8.1 thing? Another difference in what is displayed: my ribbon has the label Opinion displayed all the time on the lower left end of the ribbon; her machine only shows the Opinion label when the mouse is hovered over the ribbon. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Left-Right arrows missing in SM but not IE
This is the page: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/opinion/gail-collins-once-again-guns.html The top of the page has a bar with the search, logo, log in, etc buttons . Below that is a ribbon with thumbnails and text links to columns and editorials. Using IE 11, hovering over the left side of the ribbon reveals left/right scrolling arrows to move the ribbon contents; using SM 2.26, there is space for the arrow buttons but they do not appear. Turning Adblock off in SM makes no difference, except an ad does appear below the ribbon that should have the arrows. My other add-ons are Fireform 0.7.4 and Lightning 3.1b1. How do I get the left/right arrows to appear with SM? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Ask to activate doesn't ask
I have Quicktime 7.7.6 set to Ask to activate in the Add-ons manager. When I select the player from a Open with menu (Win 8 on Samsung ATIV laptop), it just starts up - no asking. Shouldn't I be asked if I want to use it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey pdf
F Murtz wrote, On 10/22/2014 8:13 PM: Seamonkey has suddenly stopped opening PDFs,Why? (I use foxit) I get a blank page that says Done. IE will open them. I had to go to EditPreferencesBrowserHelper Applications, find the: PDF document (application/document) PDF document (download/pdf) and set Action Use Foxit Reader etc to get PDFs to open in Foxit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web page consumes 20% of CPU time
David E. Ross wrote, On 9/28/2014 3:00 PM: On 9/28/2014 1:40 PM, flyguy wrote: I'm running SM 2.26 on a Samsung ATIV 9+ (Intel i7-4500U CPU at 1.8GHz). This page consumes 20% of the CPU time, while IE consumes only 2% for the same page: http://citizensclimatelobby.org/ That's a huge difference! What's SM doing that it shouldn't be? Is there a way to make it calm down? Sure, I can switch away from the page, and I do, but the problem suggests SM might have bug. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.26.1 In general, that page causes SeaMonkey to use 5% or less of my CPU. When the image changes, however, it uses 10%-22% of CPU for a very short period. Did you monitor IE's CPU usage while the images changed? Yes, I monitored IE and SM the same way, using Task Manager, and watching the CPU chart for 30-40 seconds. Disabling Javascript for the browser reduced the CPU usage to 2 or 3%, but the slide show on the page no longer runs. I'm curious about IE's ability to run the slide show with little overhead - does it use something besides Javascript? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Web page consumes 20% of CPU time
I'm running SM 2.26 on a Samsung ATIV 9+ (Intel i7-4500U CPU at 1.8GHz). This page consumes 20% of the CPU time, while IE consumes only 2% for the same page: http://citizensclimatelobby.org/ That's a huge difference! What's SM doing that it shouldn't be? Is there a way to make it calm down? Sure, I can switch away from the page, and I do, but the problem suggests SM might have bug. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Win 8 snipping tool pastes double size images
I'm using SM 2.26 on a Samsung ATIV 9+ laptop (runs Win 8.1) with a 3200x1800 high dpi screen. When I use the Win 8 snipping tool to capture a screen image and paste it into an email, the dimensions double in size; ie, snipping a 640x480 image from a web page puts a 1280 x 960 image in the email. I can resize it, of course, but it's an irritation. What is causing this behavior, and is there a way to have it post the image in the pixel size it had on the screen? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: History listings not by day or date, don't delete
flyguy wrote, On 9/11/2014 9:06 AM: When I group by day and look in the Older than 6 months folder, it seems to have all the sites I've visited in the last 13 months, not just old ones. Worse, I have my PreferencesBrowserHistory Remember form and search history set to 90 days, but have jillions older than that. Unexpectedly, the Month folders seem to contain every website visited from that month to the present, rather than just the specific month. If I group by None, I am unable to delete websites, but I can delete them if I group by Day. What the heck is going on? I should have mentioned I am using Sm 2.26 on Win 8.1, Samsung ATIV Book 9+. The same thing happens on my Dell XP laptop running the same profile. History is not grouping things by Month, but apparently from selected month to now. Today, Last 7 days, and This month do have the correct entries in them. August has entries from 8/1 to 9/11 July entries from 7/1 to 9/11 And so on. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
History listings not by day or date, don't delete
When I group by day and look in the Older than 6 months folder, it seems to have all the sites I've visited in the last 13 months, not just old ones. Worse, I have my PreferencesBrowserHistory Remember form and search history set to 90 days, but have jillions older than that. Unexpectedly, the Month folders seem to contain every website visited from that month to the present, rather than just the specific month. If I group by None, I am unable to delete websites, but I can delete them if I group by Day. What the heck is going on? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email: slow typing while composing
Rick Merrill wrote, On 8/28/2014 6:11 AM: On 8/7/2014 8:12 PM, flyguy wrote: My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? She may be composing using a Font that is not a native font (and uncached). Ask her to test by composing using New Courier. When I look at Format/Font, it shows Helvetica, Arial as the selected font. Format/Size shows Medium. Apparently, she is using a native font already. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email: slow typing while composing
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 8/17/2014 5:43 AM: Onno Ekker wrote: On 8/17/2014 5:21 AM, flyguy wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 8/16/2014 7:48 PM: flyguy wrote: flyguy wrote, On 8/7/2014 5:12 PM: My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? Is she really the only one with this problem? Well, maybe we'll get lucky when we get new computers in a month or tow. I have a similar experience on a pretty fast machine -- I can be composing an email, and at random intervals SM suddenly stops displaying what I type, then catches up after a couple of seconds and goes back to normal (it remembers up to about 15-20 of the characters I typed). It reminds me of what happens if I'm watching a video when SM checks mail -- the vid will freeze for a couple of seconds (audio continues) and then resume (dropping all those frames). With all the RAM and processing power I have on this Win7 machine, it should be able to do two things at once, don'tcha think? What happens if she sets SM not to check/download mail automatically? Neither the POP or the IMAP account check automatically. She has to request new emails. I'm disappointed a new, much faster machine can have the same issues. She's hoping a new machine will take care of the problem, and she'll be heartbroken if it has the same problem as her 8 year old XP machine (we're getting new computers to dump XP, except keeping the XP laptop to run some legacy programs). It might also be caused by SeaMonkey saving the message as a draft, especially when you save drafts on the server. Please check the setting under Preferences - Composition and/or under Account Settings - Copies Folders. In my case, all drafts are saved locally, and for the 1-2 KB plain-text messages I compose, there shouldn't be any noticeable lag. Certainly not the 5-10 seconds I'm seeing, which is comparable to the delay I experience when my 100 MB MS Word file saves autorecovery info every 10 minutes. My wife's messages are also typically short, and the drafts are saved locally. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email: slow typing while composing
flyguy wrote, On 8/7/2014 5:12 PM: My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? Is she really the only one with this problem? Well, maybe we'll get lucky when we get new computers in a month or tow. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email: slow typing while composing
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 8/16/2014 7:48 PM: flyguy wrote: flyguy wrote, On 8/7/2014 5:12 PM: My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? Is she really the only one with this problem? Well, maybe we'll get lucky when we get new computers in a month or tow. I have a similar experience on a pretty fast machine -- I can be composing an email, and at random intervals SM suddenly stops displaying what I type, then catches up after a couple of seconds and goes back to normal (it remembers up to about 15-20 of the characters I typed). It reminds me of what happens if I'm watching a video when SM checks mail -- the vid will freeze for a couple of seconds (audio continues) and then resume (dropping all those frames). With all the RAM and processing power I have on this Win7 machine, it should be able to do two things at once, don'tcha think? What happens if she sets SM not to check/download mail automatically? Neither the POP or the IMAP account check automatically. She has to request new emails. I'm disappointed a new, much faster machine can have the same issues. She's hoping a new machine will take care of the problem, and she'll be heartbroken if it has the same problem as her 8 year old XP machine (we're getting new computers to dump XP, except keeping the XP laptop to run some legacy programs). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Email: slow typing while composing
My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Email: slow typing while composing
My wife is experiencing a problem while typing an email: the characters sometimes do not appear when she types them, but are delayed as much as several seconds. Seamonkey is typically the only application she's running. It happens several times week now. We're not sure when it started, but likely some time this year. We're both using SM 2.26 on similar Win XP machines. I rarely have it happen to me. Does anyone have an idea about the cause and how to fix it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
flyguy wrote, On 5/12/2014 11:22 AM: flyguy wrote, On 5/9/2014 10:17 PM: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 5/7/2014 10:49 PM: flyguy wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM: flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00: Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account: 'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments. Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails (i reset this option). Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long period of inactivity decision to kill the connection. Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large attachments. Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that doesn't work, and OK, here are a couple of places to look in NIS, which believe it or not is user-configurable. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to accept all the default settings. 1) From the main panel, click Settings, choose the Network tab. 2) Choose the Message Protection section, and next to Email Antivirus Scan, click Configure. 3) Options to consider (both default to enabled): [?] Scan outgoing email messages [?] Protect against timeouts Found those, tried them, and changing them helped a little. What really seemed to fix things was enabling Silent Mode. Now, both computers can send 4 MB attachments without problems; before, even 700-800 KB wouldn't reliably send. Basically, Silent Mode suspends notification of alerts and much of the background processing while the CPU is busy. Here's a summary of Silent Mode: http://tinyurl.com/lew2f68 That's still not a fix, so I'm going to contact Norton and GoDaddy tomorrow, but at least it seems to be a workaround. Turns out, that's not a reliable workaround, either. The last time I couldn't send an attachment, it was turning off the Anti-virus that did the trick; at least, it was after doing that, that email sent. And today, it worked perfectly, with no changes or workarounds. Go figure. Im hoping it was a ISP problem that is now resolved. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
flyguy wrote, On 5/9/2014 10:17 PM: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 5/7/2014 10:49 PM: flyguy wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM: flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00: Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account: 'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments. Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails (i reset this option). Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long period of inactivity decision to kill the connection. Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large attachments. Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that doesn't work, and OK, here are a couple of places to look in NIS, which believe it or not is user-configurable. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to accept all the default settings. 1) From the main panel, click Settings, choose the Network tab. 2) Choose the Message Protection section, and next to Email Antivirus Scan, click Configure. 3) Options to consider (both default to enabled): [?] Scan outgoing email messages [?] Protect against timeouts Found those, tried them, and changing them helped a little. What really seemed to fix things was enabling Silent Mode. Now, both computers can send 4 MB attachments without problems; before, even 700-800 KB wouldn't reliably send. Basically, Silent Mode suspends notification of alerts and much of the background processing while the CPU is busy. Here's a summary of Silent Mode: http://tinyurl.com/lew2f68 That's still not a fix, so I'm going to contact Norton and GoDaddy tomorrow, but at least it seems to be a workaround. Turns out, that's not a reliable workaround, either. The last time I couldn't send an attachment, it was turning off the Anti-virus that did the trick; at least, it was after doing that, that email sent. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 5/7/2014 10:49 PM: flyguy wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM: flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00: Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account: 'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments. Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails (i reset this option). Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long period of inactivity decision to kill the connection. Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large attachments. Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that doesn't work, and OK, here are a couple of places to look in NIS, which believe it or not is user-configurable. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to accept all the default settings. 1) From the main panel, click Settings, choose the Network tab. 2) Choose the Message Protection section, and next to Email Antivirus Scan, click Configure. 3) Options to consider (both default to enabled): [?] Scan outgoing email messages [?] Protect against timeouts Found those, tried them, and changing them helped a little. What really seemed to fix things was enabling Silent Mode. Now, both computers can send 4 MB attachments without problems; before, even 700-800 KB wouldn't reliably send. Basically, Silent Mode suspends notification of alerts and much of the background processing while the CPU is busy. Here's a summary of Silent Mode: http://tinyurl.com/lew2f68 That's still not a fix, so I'm going to contact Norton and GoDaddy tomorrow, but at least it seems to be a workaround. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM often asks for email password
We've been using SM (now ver. 2.26) for years on two desktop WinXP computers. The last couple of weeks, it's begun asking for our email password about 30% of the time, both computers. Typing in the password we've been using for many years gets the mail sent most of the time; sometimes, though, it will ask repeatedly, and we have to close the email we are trying to send and start over. Any idea why it would be doing that? (yes, I'm the guy that's also having problems with email sending timeouts, but I don't know if the problems are related) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM: flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00: Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account: 'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments. Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails (i reset this option). Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long period of inactivity decision to kill the connection. Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large attachments. Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that doesn't work, and ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account: 'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Ron Hunter wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:37 AM: On 5/5/2014 1:46 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Cerise wrote, On 05/05/2014 06:27: On 5/5/2014 12:18 AM, flyguy wrote: Would these be satisfactory tests? * My IMAP gmail account can send with no problems (done on the Win XP computer) * My iPad (using the same router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy accounts on it, and they can all send the attachments - no problems. * I can send big attachments using GoDaddy's webmail. With each of those, you are sending either from a different machine, or using different servers. You want to reduce the variables ... and using a different mail client to connect to the same SMTP server from the same PC would do that. So, he must per exemple try to send with Pegasus Mail the same mail, with the same pc, using smtp connection to smtpout.secureserver.net. If it fails .. SM is not involved and PegasusMail is also not involved. Why not just contact the ISP and ask if there is a size limit on emails sent on a POP account. Most do have size limits. GoDaddy says their size limit is about 25 MB. I've sent up to 10 MB in the past, and yesterday sent 4 MB using my iPad. Oddly, it has no problems sending attachments using my GoDaddy accounts. My ISP (Frontier), the company that provides my internet service, does not impose an attachment limit on mail if I'm using someone else's server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 2:28 AM: Cerise wrote, On 05/05/2014 09:47: On 5/5/2014 3:37 AM, Ron Hunter wrote: Why not just contact the ISP and ask if there is a size limit on emails sent on a POP account. Most do have size limits. Because that's what happend in the first post, and ISP is saying it's SeaMonkey. Trying another client is a way to push it back to them, so they don't leave it broken. A little detail Why in the first post, we see it worked before. ? Yes, that's an odd thing: we've routinely sent 5 MB to 10 MB attachments over the last couple of years, from both computers; in the last couple of weeks, neither computer (both Win XP desktops) can send 2 MB attachments. One desktop is using SM 2.26, the other SM 2.23. I wonder if this is related to Win XP, since the iPad has no problems with attachments on these accounts? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM email not sending with large attachments
The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. I have several GoDaddy POP mail accounts, all have the same issue. My IMAP gmail account can send with no problems, my iPad (using the same router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy accounts on it, and they can all send the attachments - no problems. I can send big attachments using GoDaddy's webmail. I contacted Support at Godaddy, but after trying a number things, the representative concluded it was likely a Mozilla issue. If it is, that doesn't explain why it worked before. I'm using Seamonkey 2.23 and 2.26 on Windows XP computers. My email provider is Godaddy.com; my ISP is Frontier.com. Does anyone know what might be causing my problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM email not sending with large attachments
Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM: On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote: The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try again or contact your network administrator. See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey. Would these be satisfactory tests? * My IMAP gmail account can send with no problems (done on the Win XP computer) * My iPad (using the same router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy accounts on it, and they can all send the attachments - no problems. * I can send big attachments using GoDaddy's webmail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.23: text is too small, but correct in IE 8
MCBastos wrote, On 2/4/2014 7:37 PM: Interviewed by CNN on 05/02/2014 01:29, flyguy told the world: This website displays with suitable, readable text in IE8, but in SM 2.23, the text is much smaller (about half the height) and difficult to read. Is this caused by a setting I can change in SM? Or perhaps improper website coding (but then, why is IE8 doing a pretty good jog?). Which website? http://www.solar-flight.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.23: text is too small, but correct in IE 8
This website displays with suitable, readable text in IE8, but in SM 2.23, the text is much smaller (about half the height) and difficult to read. Is this caused by a setting I can change in SM? Or perhaps improper website coding (but then, why is IE8 doing a pretty good jog?). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Open All in tabs failure!!
Daniel wrote, On 1/29/2014 12:34 AM: On 28/01/14 00:15, Daniel wrote: I'm researching some stuff for my local Astronomy Society (news items), so I had 67 tabs open, which I then stored in my Bookmarks Manager using Bookmark this Group of Tabs That all went well, but, tonight, I went to open the group of tabs, I opened a new Browser Window for these 67 tabs (I used a new browser screen so my normal group of tabs would still be there when needed.), and closed the extra tabs, so that I only had one tab left open, and then I located my group of tabs and clicked on the Open All in Tabs at the bottom of the long list . and nothing happen, even after five minutes. I even closed this additional Browser screen and, on my normal browser screen, I closed all the additional tabs so I only had one Browser screen open and, again, clicked on the Open All in Tabs at the bottom of the long list . and nothing happen, even after several minutes. Doesn't Open All in Tabs work any more?? Or is there a limit to the number of tabs openable?? Anyone?? *Further information* I just tested another group, which only had three sites in the list, and it open the three sites, no problem, but when I then tried another group, which had about 25 sites, I then got a small screen asking if I wanted to open all 25 sites, and I clicked Yes and nothing happened!! Same as for my other screen!! Might be worth noting that I don't have Java enabled in this Linux identity!! Two days and no replies, so I guess I'm the only person that has needed to open a group of over twenty or so tabs recently!! Now to find another way of doing it maybe breaking the 67 up into four or five smaller groups!! I've been opening 22 tabs in a window every day for several years, now using 2.23. No problems here. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes when trying to add gmail IMAP account
Ray_Net wrote, On 1/14/2014 2:08 AM: flyguy wrote, On 13/01/2014 23:31: I deleted my gmail POP account, then went through the setup for a gmail IMAP account. When I clicked Finish, SM crashed. I filled out the crash report, restarted SM - same story. Rebooted, tried again, same story. What's going on? I don't know .. try to create a pop/smtp access to your gmail account. If this is working, try to change it into an imap access ... I'd been using a pop/smtp access to the gmail account for a couple of years, but wanted to change to an imap account so I could access it from my desktop PC and my iPad. There did not appear to be anyway to change the pop account to an imap account, so I removed the pop account, then tried to add an imap account, and the crashing began. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes when trying to add gmail IMAP account
Ed Mullen wrote, On 1/14/2014 9:28 AM: flyguy wrote: Ray_Net wrote, On 1/14/2014 2:08 AM: flyguy wrote, On 13/01/2014 23:31: I deleted my gmail POP account, then went through the setup for a gmail IMAP account. When I clicked Finish, SM crashed. I filled out the crash report, restarted SM - same story. Rebooted, tried again, same story. What's going on? I don't know .. try to create a pop/smtp access to your gmail account. If this is working, try to change it into an imap access ... I'd been using a pop/smtp access to the gmail account for a couple of years, but wanted to change to an imap account so I could access it from my desktop PC and my iPad. There did not appear to be anyway to change the pop account to an imap account, so I removed the pop account, then tried to add an imap account, and the crashing began. Have you tried restarting SM in Safe Mode to create the account? Some add-on /may/ be causing this. I haven't, but will, if deleting the imap folder and trying again doesn't work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes when trying to add gmail IMAP account
andré wrote, On 1/14/2014 9:35 AM: flyguy a écrit : Ray_Net wrote, On 1/14/2014 2:08 AM: flyguy wrote, On 13/01/2014 23:31: I deleted my gmail POP account, then went through the setup for a gmail IMAP account. When I clicked Finish, SM crashed. I filled out the crash report, restarted SM - same story. Rebooted, tried again, same story. What's going on? I don't know .. try to create a pop/smtp access to your gmail account. If this is working, try to change it into an imap access ... I'd been using a pop/smtp access to the gmail account for a couple of years, but wanted to change to an imap account so I could access it from my desktop PC and my iPad. There did not appear to be anyway to change the pop account to an imap account, so I removed the pop account, then tried to add an imap account, and the crashing began. You can simply add a imap account (in SM) without deleting the old SM pop account. It just needs to have a different folder name, which happens automatically if the old account is still on disk. You might have to reconfigure gmail for imap (but I don't think so). Maybe what happened is the old account folder was re-used by SM, and some residue caused a conflict. To work around that, start in offline mode. Then define a new SM account, before deleting the old one. It will be in a new location, and should work without problem. Be sure to delete or deactivate the old (pop and imap) SM accounts before changing to online mode. Trying to download from the same account from google at the same time could cause a problem. (Google will probably detect that as a breach of security.) You do have to select either POP or IMAP in your gmail account, which I've done. The IMAP account on my iPad works correctly. I anticipated problems with having a pop and imap account for the same email account, so that's why I deleted the pop account. I'm still puzzled that adding an account can crash SM as I finish setting up the account and before I even try to use it. I'll try Rob's suggestion to delete the IMAP folder from SM, which was created automatically, and has three IMAP accounts in it for the three times I tried. I just noticed my profile's Mail folder has a mail.gmail.com folder that was used by the pop account. I'll delete that, also. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes when trying to add gmail IMAP account
Rob wrote, On 1/14/2014 5:13 AM: flyguy flyguy26e@verizon.netto wrote: I deleted my gmail POP account, then went through the setup for a gmail IMAP account. When I clicked Finish, SM crashed. I filled out the crash report, restarted SM - same story. Rebooted, tried again, same story. What's going on? When you don't want to create an entirely new profile, first try it this way: remove the account, close Seamonkey (via File/Quit, not by closing the window), find the ImapMail directory in your profile and remove everything that is in it. Then start Seamonkey and try adding the account again. And the prize goes to ... Rob! Your advice worked, and I was able to create an account. SM crashed the first time I tried to get email, but it worked fine after, once I got the settings right (some operator error slowed things down). Setup was a lot easier on the iPad! Anyway, both the PC and iPad are remaining in sync. If they continue to work properly, I'll try changing another account to IMAP. And if that works, maybe try my wife's gmail next, so her iPad and Pc stay together. Risky business, tampering with her email.. Thanks for everyone's advice - The Devil is in the details. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes when trying to add gmail IMAP account
Philip Chee wrote, On 1/14/2014 9:20 PM: On 14/01/2014 06:31, flyguy wrote: I deleted my gmail POP account, then went through the setup for a gmail IMAP account. When I clicked Finish, SM crashed. I filled out the crash report, restarted SM - same story. Rebooted, tried again, same story. What's going on? Go to about:crashes There should be a list of links with the latest crashes at the top. These are clickable links (assuming you allowed SeaMonkey to send the crash report to mozilla). Paste the latest links here in this thread. http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-d57c99ec-dca4-4cf7-895a-4d0042140115 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-d57c99ec-dca4-4cf7-895a-4d0042140115 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-6db8a184-65ac-4872-89b6-1cf872140113 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-6fec8fdd-bb14-4730-a9db-0b0fd2140113 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE
»Q« wrote, On 10/3/2013 5:49 PM: In news:z8ednuru5k3t-9hpnz2dnuvz_osaa...@mozilla.org, flyguy flyguy26e@verizon.netto wrote: regz91 wrote, On 10/2/2013 11:06 AM: flyguy wrote: I began using Adblock a week ago, and expected to have some issues with it, such as it blocking stuff I wanted. High continuous CPU usage was definitely not one of issues I expected! Just add rules to disable it on sites you face issues. When you feel that you don't want adblock on a website then click on adblock and set an exemption rule for that website. I've done that for this page. I haven't had problems with other sites. You might want to report it to the Adblock folks -- maybe they can figure out what's causing it and improve their extension. Already have. Hope it helps them. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE
regz91 wrote, On 10/1/2013 10:03 PM: flyguy wrote: regz91 wrote, On 10/1/2013 8:40 PM: flyguy wrote: This website uses 25% of my CPU time in SM 2.21 (Win XP), but 2% or so in IE 8. http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-24ss-111012813 Is that a flaw in SM? Is it a setting I can change? It slows down the computer, and I can hear the HD whining. I too saw huge CPU usage when accessing that web page I disabled adblock,noscript etc and the load factor was noticeably less. Ah ha! When I disable Adblock for that page, CPU usage drops to 1 or 2%; apparently, it's Adblock, or some interaction of Adblock and SM, with that page. When I re-enable Adblock, the CPU usage remains at 1 or 2%; reloading the page and it zooommms back up 25% CPU usage. Very repeatable. You can disable adblock for a specific webite alone by right clicking on the addon when you are loading a specific site. 90~95 % of the browsing issues are caused by browser's Addons/extensions/themes/plugins , some issues are with sites themeselves, some issues arise due to firewalls and Antivirus tools. Genuine browser issues are generally very few. I began using Adblock a week ago, and expected to have some issues with it, such as it blocking stuff I wanted. High continuous CPU usage was definitely not one of issues I expected! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website: high CPU usage in SM, none in IE
regz91 wrote, On 10/2/2013 11:06 AM: flyguy wrote: I began using Adblock a week ago, and expected to have some issues with it, such as it blocking stuff I wanted. High continuous CPU usage was definitely not one of issues I expected! Just add rules to disable it on sites you face issues. When you feel that you don't want adblock on a website then click on adblock and set an exemption rule for that website. I've done that for this page. I haven't had problems with other sites. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
