Weird, minor issue since upgrade to 2.53.5.1

[Rick & Sharon]

Been loving Mozilla since the NetScape days, current install info:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1


Build identifier: 20201115194905

Upgraded several different home PCs/laptops to newest version, but on 
this machine (primary PC in the house), I've developed 1 niggle: with a 
newsgroup subscription open and multiple articles displayed, cannot use 
'ctrl-shift-C' to mark all items as read.  This still works on other 
devices, just not this PC.


All devices are running Win10, updated.  If I manually select all items 
in the Thread pane and right-click, then click Mark - as Read, that 
works.  As well, if I right-click on the Newsgroup name and click Mark 
Newsgroup Read, that also works.  Only the keyboard shortcut is failing, 
and only for this PC.  Any suggestions on what to look at for possible 
resolution to restore this keyboard shortcut?

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Re: Win7-Pro, Seamonkey-64, and Skype

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Henrik37 wrote:
Is there some way to get the current version of Skype to run with Win 
7-Pro systems and SeaMonkey v.2.53 without having a Microsoft account?


I have found it all but impossible to find a tutorial telling one how to 
proceed.  Pointers to an appropriate source of information will be most 
appreciated.
Skype IS browser-independent.  Makes no difference what browser you use, 
Skype's interface is its own client.  And yes, you must have an MS 
account to use it.  back when MS took it over, your old account was 
carried over with it, but since then it's been updated.  In my case and 
those of my associated family, we've all had to establish new profiles 
in Skype for it to work, on Android or Windows platforms.

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Re: SM 2.53.2 FCore32 Lightning

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Ken Smith wrote:
I have migrated all of my profile files from another 2.53.2 SM 
installation, on another machine, onto 2.53.2 on this computer in order 
to retain my bookmarks, saved passwords etc. That profile on that other 
machine originated from an older 2.49 installation and has been migrated 
forward from there.


The older 2.49 installation and its profile had a working Lightning 
configuration.


I tried copying individual files of Bookmarks etc from a backup of the 
2.49 profile but SMonkey ignored the copies. I'm aware that the schema 
of the profile has been revised in 2.53.2.


I notice that on a new empty profile in 2.53.2 the Events and Tasks menu 
is available in Mail and the Lightning extension shows as installed. On 
the migrated profile Events and Tasks is missing and the Lightning 
extension is missing. I've tried installing Lightning but get an error 
report when I start it. Is there a fix I can apply to enable Lightning 
in my migrated profile?


I notice in the about:config on this computer I can see the calendar 
settings, such as the URL of my CalDAV server. Those settings will have 
originated in the 2.49 profile that this profile is derived from. Is 
there a setting I can change to re-enable the calendar function?


Failing if someone could point me to an up to date list of the various 
files in a 2.53.2 profile so that I'll know exactly which files to copy 
in order to migrate my Bookmarks etc onto an otherwise clean profile 
that has Lightning working.


Is there a way to trigger the conversion of a 2.49 profile to the 2.53.2 
profile?


Many thanks

Ken

ken, I had problems with a simple upgrade in the last 6 months where my 
existing Lightning info appeared to disappear, even tho the extension 
was reporting as installed.  The fix I got, suggested by another member 
here, was to open 'about:config' and search for this entry (without the 
quotes):

"extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}"
Right-click on the entry in the 'Value' column, select the 'Reset' 
option, restart your SM session.  Mine worked right away after that. 
Other profiles created don't have the 'evil bit' set that's masking the 
Lightning function, only your main profile.


Hope this works for you.
Rick
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Re: Lightning 'Events and..' menu item gone

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

A long-time Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey user, but not a web developer.

Recently installed 2.53.1, and all bookmarks/tab and emails/subfolders 
are in place.  However, my previous install of 2.49.x had Lightning 
installed, so I had the 'Events and..' menu bar item visible, to 
select calendar from, etc.  It is no longer displaying.   It's not 
just invisible and taking up space, it's not on the menu bar at all.


My install was performed while a real-time backup tool was also 
running, which has a job assigned to keep my profile info updated, as 
it changes.   Hoping this was a minor hiccup, I restarted the PC, 
killed the backup software and re-ran the installer.  No errors, but 
still no Lightning module items.


My profile folder still contains a 'calendar-data' subfolder, and 
there are 3 sqlite database files inside.  Looking at the Add-ons Mgr 
screen, there was an entry for a version of Lightning that was never 
removed but marked as incompatible, so I uninstalled that and re-tried 
the new installer once more.  No joy.


Everything appears to work normally, other than my inability to 
utilize the Lightning components that have been included in this 
distribution.


Any suggestions on how to at least regain access to the menus for 
Lightning?


See under "Known Issues" in the release notes at 
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/>:
Lightning or one of the distributed extensions is not showing up or is 
disabled under Add-ons.
If the extension is disabled and can not be enabled deinstall it. If 
it does not show up after restart do the following:

* Enter "about:config" in the location bar.
* Enter "extensions.installedDistroAddon" in the search field.
* Reset the key of the extension not showing up using the popup menu 
with the mouse. If in doubt just reset all keys, but this might bring 
back previously uninstalled distributed Add-ons.

* Restart SeaMonkey.


It seems that for some reason the bundled version doesn't get installed 
for some people.  It sounds like you've uninstalled the incompatible 
version of Lightning, but try the about:config edit.  I think the one to 
reset for Lightning is 
"extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}".


Thanks, Mark, that 'reset' trick worked.  All the items under that 
config area are showing boolean 'true' which I took to mean 'enabled', 
but using the Reset context-menu action cleared it back to default, and 
now all is well again.


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Lightning 'Events and..' menu item gone

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A long-time Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey user, but not a web developer.

Recently installed 2.53.1, and all bookmarks/tab and emails/subfolders 
are in place.  However, my previous install of 2.49.x had Lightning 
installed, so I had the 'Events and..' menu bar item visible, to select 
calendar from, etc.  It is no longer displaying.   It's not just 
invisible and taking up space, it's not on the menu bar at all.


My install was performed while a real-time backup tool was also running, 
which has a job assigned to keep my profile info updated, as it changes. 
 Hoping this was a minor hiccup, I restarted the PC, killed the backup 
software and re-ran the installer.  No errors, but still no Lightning 
module items.


My profile folder still contains a 'calendar-data' subfolder, and there 
are 3 sqlite database files inside.  Looking at the Add-ons Mgr screen, 
there was an entry for a version of Lightning that was never removed but 
marked as incompatible, so I uninstalled that and re-tried the new 
installer once more.  No joy.


Everything appears to work normally, other than my inability to utilize 
the Lightning components that have been included in this distribution.


Any suggestions on how to at least regain access to the menus for Lightning?
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs 
in plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as 
plain text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with 
the message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  
But clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the 
link in the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view 
the message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such 
link includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


...

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


  Plusnet Community [2]

  Plusnet Help [3]

  Facebook [4]

  YouTube [5]

...

Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records 


...

Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're using 
footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking them in 
the body text.


OK Paul, can you decipher the other one I had this with?  Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


"--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew Now' 
centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a URL 
which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.



 

  
  style=3D"mso-hide:all;wid=

th:auto;">
sty=

le=3D"mso-hide:all;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" width=3D"180" heigh=
t=3D"50">
  
style=3D"text-alig=

n:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;vertical-align:middle;color:#f=
f;display:block;background-color:#3da32e;border-radius:4px;" width=3D"180" =
height=3D"50" class=3D"td-cta-tbl">http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;=
margin:0 auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar=
get=3D"_blank"> size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=

oration:none;">Renew Now
  

  


  

Does this suggest anything?
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 
20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do 
anything when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the 
link is recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link 
location' and then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do 
anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had 
no effect.


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs in 
plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as plain 
text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with the 
message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  But 
clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the link in 
the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view the 
message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such link 
includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


{Openquote  "This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--=_0931b06fb16784e0bd59e458376562d2
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Important - you might need to update your email settings

We're changing the way our emails work" EndQuote}

Then there's some body text, and then the end of the first part:

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


Plusnet Community [2]

Plusnet Help [3]

Facebook [4]

YouTube [5]

 Plusnet plc
Registered Office: The Balance, 2 Pinfold Street, Sheffield, S1 2GU
Registered in England no: 3279013
VAT No: 245 7193 48



Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records

[2] https://community.plus.net/
[3] http://www.twitter.com/plusnethelp
[4] http://www.facebook.com/plusnet
[5] http://www.youtube.com/PlusNetTV; EndQuote}

I have the same behavior with the message in the preview pane, or opened 
in its own window, and none of those links works.


The second part of the message is a Base64-graphic which appears to be 
the background graphic everything else is laid down on.


A previous message from another source had a small on-screen green 
rectangle with enbedded text as another hyperlink.  The layout of the 
message source was nowhere near as described above, but the URL was 
clearly available in the source, and did resolve/render when I pasted it 
into my browser address bar.  I can't copy that link because it was 
against my existing AVG account.


Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?
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Links in emails not sending?

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Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do anything 
when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the link is 
recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link location' and 
then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had no 
effect.


Suggestions?
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Re: Is Filter function working in SM 2.49.1??

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NFN Smith wrote:

Daniel wrote:
There is an ongoing situation in this, and I guess other Mozilla 
support groups, where some "Italian" person is posting messages, in 
Italian, complaining about Italian Criminal activities.


I've created a filter in an attempt to "remove" these posts before I 
have to read them. I've picked out five words, including "PEDOFILO" 
and marked them "Mark as Read" and "Ignore Thread", but today, one of 
those messages is still visible, i.e. Unread, ... well, was, until I 
clicked on it!!


Is it just me that is having problems with these posts or are others 
seeing posts which should have been invisible as well??



I have a filter that's working well, and I'm not seeing any of that 
garbage.


I have about 8-10 words that are commonly used in subject lines, where I 
have the filter set to "Match any of the following, and then the Action 
section set to "ignore thread".


When you're doing this kind of filter, the easiest mistake to make is 
that the default setting is "Match all of the following", and you need 
to make sure it gets set to "Match any of the following".


Smith

My filter contains these words:
PEDOFILO
ASSASSIN
PERVERTITO
PEDERASTA
BASTARDO
MAFI
PORNO
CRIMINALE
PEDOPHILE
NAZI

Along with NSN Smith's advice, I also have 'Match any of the following' 
selected, and I have 2 actions selected: 'Ignore Thread' and 'Delete 
Message'.  I don't see any of that stuff any more; can't recall how long 
it's been since I have seen it.


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Re: router login - error 401, unauthorized

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Patrick Bégou wrote:

I had also such a problem some weeks ago after a seamonkey upgrade. It
seams to be a bug in seamonkey.
Try to connect without the mail window of seamonkey open.
For me it works.

Patrick

Lee a écrit :

On 10/7/17, rjkrjk  wrote:

win7/64, SM 2.48

wireless, rj-45 ethernet connection to your netgear router or ???


attempted to log on to my router (Netgear AC1900/R7000) using the all
of the
following
standard netgear address
10.0.0.1, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1, routerlogin.net

don't use routerlogin.net -- it works only if the netgear is your dns
server
which it probably is, ok, but do you check which wireless network
you're connected to before entering the userid/password?

& while we're on the topic:
username: admin, pasword: password
that got changed when you first connected the netgear to your network
- right?


NONE workand I get an 401 Error,   unauthorized

have you looked at
https://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/27199

if nothing there helps,
   if not already, connect your pc directly to the netgear with an
ethernet cable, turn off wireless on the pc & try again
   create a new SM profile & try again


however, when using FF 56, I have NO Problem accessing the router
using routerlogin.net or 10.0.0.1 ( the 192.168.x.x both time out)

You're using FF & SM on the same machine?


the 401 error message
Access to this resource is denied, your client has not supplied the
correct
authentication

does even have the netgear standard 2 line sign in box, I'm not
supplying an
passwords
just typing the netgear url,
where is SM looking in order to get the correct authtication

You could always install wireshark
   https://www.wireshark.org/download.html
and see what's actually happening.


I have cleared cache, removed the 192.168.x.x passwords

not really sure if Seamonkey is at fault here,   comments appreciated !

I have a netgear at home also.  No problems getting in using seamonkey.

Regards,
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Eureka!  It is/must be something in SM, because I can confirm that I can 
once more log into the router, even after having gotten the 
'unauthorised' web page, just by closing my mail client and refreshing 
the web page.


FYI: I am logging into a (Billion) BiPAC 8900AX2400 router through an 
RJ45 cable connection (this PC doesn't have/use wireless).  There is no 
'logoff' link in the router interface, so the only way to disconnect is 
to close that browser tab/window.


I guess this rates an entry in Bugzilla?

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Re: router login - error 401, unauthorized

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rjkrjk wrote:

win7/64, SM 2.48


attempted to log on to my router (Netgear AC1900/R7000) using the all of
the following
standard netgear address
10.0.0.1, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1, routerlogin.net

NONE workand I get an 401 Error,   unauthorized

however, when using FF 56, I have NO Problem accessing the router
using routerlogin.net or 10.0.0.1 ( the 192.168.x.x both time out)

the 401 error message
Access to this resource is denied, your client has not supplied the
correct authentication

does even have the netgear standard 2 line sign in box, I'm not
supplying an passwords
just typing the netgear url,
where is SM looking in order to get the correct authtication

I have cleared cache, removed the 192.168.x.x passwords

not really sure if Seamonkey is at fault here,   comments appreciated !

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You're not alone, I started getting the same thing with my home router. 
Until I saw this, I thought it was just my model of device.  If you 
clear ALL your cookies and ALL cache, it'll work fine.  But only once: 
the next time you try you'll get the 401 error again, until you clear ot 
all your old data.


I'd love to know what this answer is, as well.  Every time I have to 
clear everything out, the wife has to log into her pages manually again.

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Re: Casting from SM?

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/31/2017 1:48 PM, RicklesP wrote:

Apologies if this had been covered previously but my searches have come
up empty.  Be sure, I love SM and have done for many years.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48

I am interested in casting content from my browser on this tablet device
to the smart TVs in my house.  The Add-ons searches have discovered a
few Cast options, but none even mentioning SM, only FF.  Anyone have any
experience with making one of them work with SM?  I have Chrome
installed but only use it for that one thing.

Suggestions?



Are you considering plugins or extensions?  While Mozilla developers
lumped them both under the term "add-ons", they are quite different.
See my .

If you are considering extensions, see
 regarding conversion of Firefox
extensions for use with SeaMonkey.  Especially check
 to see which
extensions can be converted successfully.

I'll give it a look later today.  Plugins or extensions, I'm not really 
bothered which way I get there, as long as A) it's from SM, B) is 
stable, and C) doesn't require some sort of subscription.

Thanks.
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Re: Update Failed

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Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

In Seamonkey Version 2.46 \ Help \ Check for updates - I get this error
window:
Update Failed
There were problems checking for, downloading, or installing this
update.  SeaMonkey could not be updated because:
Update XML file malformed (200)

Another example of an update failure with a different message was posted 
recently, which also affected my system the same way.  The fix was to 
add the update URL as an exception to my AVG antivirus 'Online Shield' 
component so it doesn't block the site.  You may want to see if the same 
type of thing can be done for your AV install.


The URL to ignore checks on was 'https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/'.
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Tab tear-offs gone?

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Hi.  I'm on Win10 x64, with v2.46 (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46

Build identifier: 20161213183751)

I've just discovered that the ability to tear off tabs from the current 
window and have them open a new window for side-by-side comparison, no 
longer works.  I will admit I don't know the version I was using the 
last time I did this, but I've just found it non-functional.  The Help 
file doesn't say 'boo' about it, and the only on-line references I've 
come across refer to Firefox builds.


My IE install still does this, so am I remembering incorrectly that SM 
ever did have this capability?  I only use IE as a last resort when a 
web page gives me grief in SM, and I don't even have Chrome installed.


TIA.

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Re: SM Tabs - ID'ing the open tab among the many running ?

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DoctorBill wrote:

New Question - SM 2.46 in Windows 7

I have tabbed Browsing working, but I find it difficult to finger out
which Tab is the one currently open !

When I ran Tabbed Browsing in my old SM 1.1 (?), the open tab had a
colored bar running across the top of the tab.

I do not see a toggle to do this in this newer 2.46.

Am I missing it somewhere ?

DoctorBill
Changes to the newer versions, coupled with Win10, changed the 
appearance.  The only tab that has the BLue 'close X' box & a Plus (+) 
sign is the top tab (with focus).


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Logging daily mail activity?

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Running Win10 x64, SM User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; 
rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751


I use a backup solution called Memeo, which runs in real time as opposed 
to only at scheduled intervals.  I've been using both since the XP days. 
 Since upgrading the OS to Win10, I've been getting issues with sending 
or receiving emails, where messages can't be saved to either the Sent or 
Inbox folders, as appropriate.  If I just keep trying 'Retry' it won't 
work.  If I suspend the Memeo process and then retry, it's fine.


I'm using the Win10 version of Memeo and have a ticket open with them, 
but they're asking for a screen shot and a collection of logs.  The logs 
are no issue, but since the error pops up randomly I don't have a screen 
shot already saved, and I'm the only user of this who has any idea of 
how to take one.  It occurs that a comparison of SM mail logs compared 
to the Memeo logs would be a good thing, as time events can be compared 
to work out a solution.


Are there such, and would they record the failed folder writing 
attempts?  I've seen an article about Thunderbird logging to 
troubleshoot server issues, but that's not what I'm trying to solve.

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Re: Windows 10 Conversion Questions

[Rick & Sharon]

Larry S. wrote:

So I must convert to W10 soon, or lose my "freebie". Since I've never
done that, and are a computer amateur, I have questions.

W10 compatability report says "all o.k.".

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled
before the conversion?

I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but in
W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved
version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how do I
find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a confusing
UI.

What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

I probably have the same questions about everything else--programs, such
as word processing, security and back-up. Ditto with peripherals such as
mouse, monitor, keyboard and printer. Finding all the information I can.

A very intimidating process, to be sure! Taking the plunge soon--hope to
not drown.

Any and all help greatly appreciated!

Larry S.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0
SeaMonkey/2.40
My experience with upgrading from Win7 to Win10 with SeaMonkey installed 
was: no issues.  The Windows upgrade ran as MS advertises it, and all my 
desktop and taskbar icons were untouched, and all worked as they had 
before the upgrade.  I've done this to 2 different machines in the last 
week, same reeults.
In the event there were any issues, like you, I have a backup regimen in 
place.  But there was no need to restore a thing.

Your profile location is the same in W10 as in W7, so that's not an issue.
If you're still nervous, best thing I can recommend is to turn off your 
antivirus during the upgrade, just to be sure it doesn't actively block 
anything during the process.  Once the upgrade is done, turn your AV 
back on (or re-install it if it complains).

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Re: smtp not taking password

[Rick & Sharon]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote on 2/14/2016 10:01 AM:

My ISP (WOW!) has just changed mailing securities and now I have to use
a password on the smtp.  I cannot get the entry to take when trying to
send.  I am using SM 2.39.  I have gone through a number of trials.
Their requirement is that I use no connection Security, Port 587, and
Password.  I have set the smtp to these conditions, but the password
will not enter.  I have cleared the password file of these and then
tried the entry again.  It did not take, but the password was now in the
password file. For some reason, it appears that the password file cannot
communicate with the smtp.  What am I missing here? The mail sending was
working fine until WOW changed their requirements. Wow, of course, wants
me to change to Windows Mail and IE.  SM security is exactly the reason
that I avoided MS Products.

Keith Thompson


Keith, not sure why this is happening but you might try deleting both
the SMTP and the password and then recreate the SMTP.

Also make sure WOW haven't chgned whether your user login has changed 
(i.e. was just your account alias but is now your whole mail address, or 
vice-versa.)

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Re: update fails

[Rick & Sharon]

stan pierce wrote:

Update is failing with message that:  something is trying to trick SM
into accepting an insecure update.
You're not the first to see this.  It's a certificate issue between 
older and current versions.  To install the newer version:


Click on the SeaMonkey icon at the top right of your mail or browser 
window, and download the v2.38 whole version install you'll see on the 
web page which opens.  Simply right-click on that file once it's 
downloaded, and click 'Run as administrator'.  It will install on top of 
your current install and pick up your existing settings.


Once you've done this, newer future updates should install as normal 
from the 'Check for updates' menu options.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 Add-ons Manager: Boo-hoo!

[Rick & Sharon]

Philip Chee wrote:

On 27/09/2015 12:07, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38

I just now installed SeaMonkey 2.38. When I view the lists of
extensions or themes via the Add-ons Manager, the version numbers no
longer are displayed. I can get them one-at-a-time by selecting the
More link for each; but this does not give me a view of all of them
at once.  One developer asserted that selecting [Tools >
Troubleshooting Information] from the menu bar provides the
all-at-once listing of extension version numbers; however, that does
not provide the version numbers of any themes.  (Actually, the
developer's comment was expressed in terms of Firefox and involves
requesting about:support.)

Bug #1175324 was already submitted and then marked as Closed/WontFix
by the developers, who assert that users did not want version numbers
all together.  Several users (including me) commented in that bug
report that the developers really do not know what users really want.
I marked the bug report Reopened and noted the lack of any bug report
requesting the removal of version numbers, which indicates bad
configuration management practices.  See
.

Fortunately, PrefBar's InfoList button does supply the version
numbers all at once and also links to the extensions' Web sites.


There is also:
https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/amversionnumber/

Phil

And, of course, that web link shows this add-on is not available for SM 
2.35 (which I viewed it under.)  Do I have to upgrade SM to see whether 
this add-on will work then?  Seems a bit of a leap, really.

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OT: Re: Is it safe to upgrade to Windows 10

[Rick Sharon]

S Slicer wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I'm using SM 2.32.1.  on Windows 7.  Is it time to move to Windows 10 or
should I wait for a newer SM? Thanks. Stan.


I did a clean install of Windows 10, and the latest version of
SeaMonkey is running fine.

Windows 10:  you need to change all the security settings, as Microsoft
has set them to a default that allows them access to pretty much your
whole system.  There even is a somewhat hidden setting that allows
Microsoft to give other users the ability to download Win 10 from your
system!


To S Slicer:
Found an article which describes the default settings you describe, 
except for the last one about your machine being a download host for the 
OS install.  Can you elaborate, or point us to an article with more 
info, please?


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any way to collapse news servers......

[sharon]

so they don't show all the groups?  I have 3 servers, this morning one 
was collapsed the other 2 were not.  This afternoon they were all 
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the 
servers to get message counts.  TIA

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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

[sharon]

Martin Freitag wrote:

sharon schrieb:

so they don't show all the groups? I have 3 servers, this morning one
was collapsed the other 2 were not. This afternoon they were all
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the
servers to get message counts. TIA


You can search for the preference
news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane
in about:config and set it to true.
(or add it to your user.js)
regards

Martin

thank you very much!
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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

[sharon]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

user_pref(news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane, true

Thank you!
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SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Folder Question

[Sharon]

I have SeaMonkey 1.1.18 . Windows Vista.  I have some folders from an 
older profile that I want to move to my new profile.  I found the 
location of the profile and I worked my way to the MAIL folder. I found 
the file that has the folders in my email.  At the top it shows folders 
 __.sbd and on the lower half it shows ___ file and ___.msf File. 
When I find the folder from the older profile what do I bring over so it 
will show in my  current email.I appreciate your help.

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Re: addons won't install

[sharon]

Martin Freitag wrote:

sharon schrieb:

Installed SeaMonkey today with few problems but there are a couple of
add ons I'd like to install: AdBlock Plus error message install script
not found; Down Them All, same error message.


You have to read properly which versions are supported ;-)
Have a look here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/seamonkey/addons/versions/1865
For Seamonkey 1.1.x you need to take AdBlockPlus 1.0.2

If you want to use ABP1.1.1 you can test Seamonkey 2.0 Beta1
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1/
It's very stable for a beta-version and won't touch your SM1 if you
install it to a separate directory. Your profile will be copied/migrated
to another directory as well on the first start.

It may be just the same with DownThemAll.

This is due to heavy changes in the AddOn-System.



Also, I can't find where to check what add ons are installed unless I'm
missing something.  Thanks for any help.


The build-in AddOn-Manager only exists in SM2.
For SM1 you can use something like the Extension Manager:
http://mozmonkey.com/

regards
Martin




Thanks!
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Re: addons won't install

[sharon]

Benoit Renard wrote:

You can get a compatible version of DownThemAll here:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#downthemall

Don't forget to install xSidebar first, as parts of the DownThemAll port 
depend on it:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/

Thanks!
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addons won't install

[sharon]

Installed SeaMonkey today with few problems but there are a couple of 
add ons I'd like to install: AdBlock Plus error message install script 
not found; Down Them All, same error message.


I installed Cookie Safe with no problem.

Also, I can't find where to check what add ons are installed unless I'm 
missing something.  Thanks for any help.

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