Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Hansen
On 11/22/2009 1:35 PM, Bush wrote:
 But seriously... Your post were the only post that Were Blank in the 
 message area . post from others were Fine .

All the posts look fine here. SeaMonkey 1.1.X on Windows/XP SP3.

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl - UPDATE

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/21/2009 04:59 PM, Bush wrote:
...
 
 Had to go back port 110 None SSL
 
 Talking to the Gateway  at  http://192.168.1.254/  I see nothing wrong 
 with the Built-in Firewall
 
 All settings are correct .

This might be of interest  suggests that the problem may have been
(what else?) the ATT U-Verse servers:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23373360-ATT-YAhoo-Email-Customers-servers-are-down

Note the dates. And also note this post from an ATT tech:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23376409?hilite=ssl

You might want to hang out here for awhile:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/uverse
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Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush
Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech 
suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I 
do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with 
Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups


Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on 
att Suddenly get SSL back?.

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:
 Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech 
 suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I 
 do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with 
 Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups
 
 Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on 
 att Suddenly get SSL back?.

Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:

Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech
suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I
do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with
Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?


 most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:
 Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech
 suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I
 do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with
 Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups

 Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
 att Suddenly get SSL back?.

 Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?

   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .

Sounds like you may have other issues besides ATT - here is the post
from the previous:

 On 11/21/2009 04:59 PM, Bush wrote:
 ...
  
  Had to go back port 110 None SSL
  
  Talking to the Gateway  at  http://192.168.1.254/  I see nothing wrong 
  with the Built-in Firewall
  
  All settings are correct .
 This might be of interest  suggests that the problem may have been
 (what else?) the ATT U-Verse servers:
 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23373360-ATT-YAhoo-Email-Customers-servers-are-down
 
 Note the dates. And also note this post from an ATT tech:
 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23376409?hilite=ssl
 
 You might want to hang out here for awhile:
 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/uverse
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:

Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech
suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I
do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with
Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?


   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .


Sounds like you may have other issues besides ATT - here is the post
from the previous:


On 11/21/2009 04:59 PM, Bush wrote:
...


Had to go back port 110 None SSL

Talking to the Gateway  at  http://192.168.1.254/  I see nothing wrong
with the Built-in Firewall

All settings are correct .

This might be of interest  suggests that the problem may have been
(what else?) the ATT U-Verse servers:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23373360-ATT-YAhoo-Email-Customers-servers-are-down

Note the dates. And also note this post from an ATT tech:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23376409?hilite=ssl

You might want to hang out here for awhile:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/uverse
But seriously... Your post were the only post that Were Blank in the 
message area . post from others were Fine .

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:

Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech
suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I
do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with
Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?


   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .


Sounds like you may have other issues besides ATT - here is the post
from the previous:


On 11/21/2009 04:59 PM, Bush wrote:
...


Had to go back port 110 None SSL

Talking to the Gateway  at  http://192.168.1.254/  I see nothing wrong
with the Built-in Firewall

All settings are correct .

This might be of interest  suggests that the problem may have been
(what else?) the ATT U-Verse servers:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23373360-ATT-YAhoo-Email-Customers-servers-are-down

Note the dates. And also note this post from an ATT tech:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23376409?hilite=ssl

You might want to hang out here for awhile:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/uverse
Great response links.. Too bad I could not read this Today. Been looking 
at all post all morning .


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Lee

Bush wrote:

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Well it works for me after all those earlier problems.

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Lee wrote:

Bush wrote:

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Well it works for me after all those earlier problems.


My question is WHY did ATT Tech Support LIE to Me .
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Bush wrote:

Lee wrote:

Bush wrote:

Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


Well it works for me after all those earlier problems.


My question is WHY did ATT Tech Support LIE to Me .
Forgot to Add .. Tech Support Said it Was a Thunderbird / Seamonkey 
Problem...

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 01:45 PM, Bush wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
 att Suddenly get SSL back?.

 Well it works for me after all those earlier problems.

 My question is WHY did ATT Tech Support LIE to Me .

You're joking... right?

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 01:35 PM, Bush wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 You might want to hang out here for awhile:
 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/uverse
 But seriously... Your post were the only post that Were Blank in the 
 message area . post from others were Fine .

Wouldn't be the first time that I shot blanks :-)


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Lee

Bush wrote:


My question is WHY did ATT Tech Support LIE to Me .


Probably like mine who did not know what in the heck
was going on much less of any help.


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Lee wrote:

Bush wrote:


My question is WHY did ATT Tech Support LIE to Me .


Probably like mine who did not know what in the heck
was going on much less of any help.


Took me to Web mail... and it Worked so they Said it was not their 
problem since Webmail worked ..

pop.att.yahoo.com ...
This could have been a Yahoo problem ???
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bush wrote:

Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech 
suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I 
do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with 
Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups


Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on 
att Suddenly get SSL back?.


More likely, they didn't know what they were talking about when they 
said SM couldn't do it, and when they fixed their issue, SM was 
satisfied and resumed working.


Mostly when they say they don't support a Mozilla product, what they 
mean is they don't know enough about how it works to give advice. It 
doesn't mean it doesn't work.


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 11/22/2009 12:11 PM, Bush wrote:
 Well today SSL works on all my computers . Very Very Strange... Tech
 suport says Mozilla products cannot use SSL on att yahoo servers ,,, I
 do a few Newsgroup Postings, And All of a Sudden SSL works with
 Seamonkey .   Very Very Strange unless Tach support Read Newsgroups

 Has everyone else on Att Who reported that ssl port 995 doesnot work on
 att Suddenly get SSL back?.

 Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?

   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .

That may sometimes happen when you try to load a msg  the news server
isn't responding or your connection to the news server times out. I've
noticed this on more than a few instances w/2.0  haven't figured out
what the issue is. More often than not, if you close the newsgroup 
reopen and/or restart the msgs will fetch and appear properly.


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:

On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:



Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?


   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .


That may sometimes happen when you try to load a msg  the news server
isn't responding or your connection to the news server times out.


That is not necessary. It can happen when you have checked the box
'Don't delete any messages', which can lead to an increased load while
looking for new postings. Can last several seconds.

If you try to read a posting in that interval, the body will be empty.


I've noticed this on more than a few instances w/2.0  haven't
figured out what the issue is.


The issue is gone since i use  'Delete messages more than 60 days old'.
Infuriating, though, that this setting is needed. The behavior was
caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.


More often than not, if you close the newsgroup  reopen and/or
restart the msgs will fetch and appear properly.


Clearing the cache should suffice. At least it was so for me.

Hartmut

the previous mess from Noop was blank here
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:




This post was  Blank


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 04:14 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:

On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:



Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl  - UPDATE?


   most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so ever .


That may sometimes happen when you try to load a msg  the news server
isn't responding or your connection to the news server times out.


That is not necessary. It can happen when you have checked the box
'Don't delete any messages', which can lead to an increased load while
looking for new postings. Can last several seconds.

If you try to read a posting in that interval, the body will be empty.


I've noticed this on more than a few instances w/2.0  haven't
figured out what the issue is.


The issue is gone since i use  'Delete messages more than 60 days old'.
Infuriating, though, that this setting is needed. The behavior was
caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.


More often than not, if you close the newsgroup  reopen and/or
restart the msgs will fetch and appear properly.


Clearing the cache should suffice. At least it was so for me.

Hartmut


Interesting... thanks!



something else shows up in the headers of your posts

subject : re:att/seamonkey/ssl
 From: NoOp glgxg#sbcglobal.net.invalied
Date  8:08 PM
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Reference 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5

Sorry for the non caps, But I have only one Hand it it gets tired of 
typing .

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 04:14 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:

On 11/22/2009 12:19 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:



Perhaps you missed my post this morning on Att/Seamonkey/ssl -
UPDATE?


most of your post this morning Were a Blank Page .. No info what so
ever .


That may sometimes happen when you try to load a msg the news server
isn't responding or your connection to the news server times out.


That is not necessary. It can happen when you have checked the box
'Don't delete any messages', which can lead to an increased load while
looking for new postings. Can last several seconds.

If you try to read a posting in that interval, the body will be empty.


I've noticed this on more than a few instances w/2.0 haven't
figured out what the issue is.


The issue is gone since i use 'Delete messages more than 60 days old'.
Infuriating, though, that this setting is needed. The behavior was
caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.


More often than not, if you close the newsgroup reopen and/or
restart the msgs will fetch and appear properly.


Clearing the cache should suffice. At least it was so for me.

Hartmut


Interesting... thanks!



something else shows up in the headers of your posts

subject : re:att/seamonkey/ssl
From: NoOp glgxg#sbcglobal.net.invalied
Date 8:08 PM
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Reference 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5

Sorry for the non caps, But I have only one Hand it it gets tired of
typing .

ignor,, I see 1 2 3 4 5 6 on mine also

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 05:04 PM, Bush wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 
 
 
 This post was  Blank
 
 

What post? Your headers show no reference header:

 Path: 
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 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:04:19 -0600
 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:04:29 -0500
 From: Bush e...@elmie.uk
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
 Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
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 Subject: Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl
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 NoOp wrote:
 
 
 
 
 This post was  Blank
 
 

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/22/2009 05:04 PM, Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:




This post was  Blank




What post? Your headers show no reference header:


Path: 
Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:04:19 -0600
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:04:29 -0500
From: Bushe...@elmie.uk
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
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properly
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Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:45018

NoOp wrote:




This post was  Blank





Sorry But I am not sending the Blank post from NoOp

only some post from you are Blank..

all other post from others
 in this newsgroup has Text in the message box .


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers 
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bush:

Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers 
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?

Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
posting and then go back to the one without body.

Does this help?

Hartmut
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 05:49 PM, Bush wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Bush:

 Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
 to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?

 Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
 posting and then go back to the one without body.

 Does this help?

 Hartmut
 I already Cleared my Cache.

 But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are
 Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.
 I see we Both are on ATT

And that matters how?


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2009 05:47 PM, Bush wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Bush:

 Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
 to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?

 Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
 posting and then go back to the one without body.

 Does this help?

 Hartmut
 I already Cleared my Cache.
 
 But only some  NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are 
 Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/84ed3b9207cb82ec/77ba408f1014409d?hl=enlnk=gstq=Att%2FSeamonkey%2Fssl++-+UPDATE#77ba408f1014409d

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/84ed3b9207cb82ec/77ba408f1014409d?hl=enlnk=gstq=Att%2FSeamonkey%2Fssl++-+UPDATE#77ba408f1014409d

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/84ed3b9207cb82ec/b7d08466f5b6e52d?hl=enq=Seamonkey+%2BAtt/Seamonkey/ssl#b7d08466f5b6e52d


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
On 11/22/2009 05:49 PM, Bush wrote:
 Bush wrote:

 I already Cleared my Cache.

 But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are
 Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.
 I see we Both are on ATT

And that matters how?

I am writing this in case he cannot read your posting. :)

Hm. Interesting problem. In such a case i would probably first try
Folder Properties-Rebuild Summery File and if that does not help, close
SM and delete the .msf of this NG.

Hartmut
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/84ed3b9207cb82ec/77ba408f1014409d?hl=enlnk=gstq=Att%2FSeamonkey%2Fssl++-+UPDATE#77ba408f1014409d

Using ' instead of  helps.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/84ed3b9207cb82ec/77ba408f1014409d?hl=enlnk=gstq='Att%2FSeamonkey%2Fssl++-+UPDATE'#77ba408f1014409d

Hartmut
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bush wrote:


Sorry But I am not sending the Blank post from NoOp

only some post from you are Blank..

all other post from others
 in this newsgroup has Text in the message box .


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers 
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?


I see no blank posts from NoOp or anyone else, in this thread or 
elsewhere. All messages have content (some more than others, but none 
blank). The problem is at your end, not his.


The post to which you appear to be replying reads as follows:

On 11/20/2009 06:25 PM, Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues ,
They No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl)
but they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users
must use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to
me . This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed Same with
my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18 Same with my Daughters computer ,
Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .



No issues with standard ATT DSL here; still 995 w/pop.att.yahoo.com and
465 w/smtp.att.yahoo.com many email accounts via ATT.

[end quote]

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?


Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
posting and then go back to the one without body.

Does this help?

Hartmut

I already Cleared my Cache.

But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are
Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.


If Harmut's suggestion does not help, try closing SeaMonkey and 
reopening.  Can you view the message now?


Lee
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?


Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
posting and then go back to the one without body.

Does this help?

Hartmut

I already Cleared my Cache.

But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are
Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.


If Harmut's suggestion does not help, try closing SeaMonkey and
reopening. Can you view the message now?

Lee

I have the group set to Delete Read messages .so they are Gone..

Very weird that only some of his or her posts are Blank .

my computer is win7 and seamonkey 2.0
my wifes computer is Winxp  Seamonkey 1.1.18

I am going to use my wifes computer in the morning to View this Group 
and See if I can see his post that were Blank. except for


NoOp said

and this area would be blank
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bush wrote:


Sorry But I am not sending the Blank post from NoOp

only some post from you are Blank..

all other post from others
in this newsgroup has Text in the message box .


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?


I see no blank posts from NoOp or anyone else, in this thread or
elsewhere. All messages have content (some more than others, but none
blank). The problem is at your end, not his.

The post to which you appear to be replying reads as follows:

On 11/20/2009 06:25 PM, Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues ,
They No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl)
but they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users
must use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to
me . This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed Same with
my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18 Same with my Daughters computer ,
Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .



No issues with standard ATT DSL here; still 995 w/pop.att.yahoo.com and
465 w/smtp.att.yahoo.com many email accounts via ATT.

[end quote]


Have to say I was wrong ..

I just unsubscribed to this Group, Then re subscribed and Now I can see 
his all the post From him.  No Blank posts .

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers
to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ?


Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another
posting and then go back to the one without body.

Does this help?

Hartmut

I already Cleared my Cache.

But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are
Blank.. in this Group or in other groups.


If Harmut's suggestion does not help, try closing SeaMonkey and
reopening. Can you view the message now?

Lee
I fixed it By Unsubscribing to this Group.  Then Re subscribing Without 
closing and restarting Seamonkey .


But why the blank post picked on him only will not be known.

Thanks for Helping me verify that it was on my Seamonkeys End .

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bush:

I just unsubscribed to this Group, Then re subscribed and Now I can see 
his all the post From him.  No Blank posts .

Hm. Then the .msf wasn't guilty. Must have been the newsrc for the NG.

Hartmut
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Lee

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I
can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.


Hi Paul

Well I have to SM 2.0 and previously reported on problems with my mail
program and again this morning it started up again not connecting to
my ATT ISP.  Sure enough I checked my setting and under Server
Settings connection setting showed SSL/TL and I have not done anything
to change it that I know of.  Reset it to none and it connected
immediately so that leads me to believe for some reason it is resetting
itself thereby causing my problems connecting for mail.  The newsgroups
though are OK.

Just thought I would pass it on in case others might have the same
problem.


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but they
Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must use port
110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .



Which ATT version are using? I have Worldnet as do others replying here 
and it works fine. My daughter just went from ATT DSL to ATT Uverse in 
TX and they wanted her to change to att yahoo but she insisted on 
staying with Worldnet. Worldnet users will have a POP3 of 
imailhost.worldnet.att.net port 995 whereas Yahoo ATT will have a POP3 
of pop.att.yahoo.com port 995 or something similar.


Which do you have or is it something else?

In the near future ATT will be turning Worldnet off and replacing it 
with something called ATT Internet Service which I suspect to be ATT 
Yahoo. Thus, while I don't have your problem now, I may have it in the 
future which would mean using port 110 and no SSL in order to use Seamonkey.

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Bush

Lee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I
can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.


Hi Paul

Well I have to SM 2.0 and previously reported on problems with my mail
program and again this morning it started up again not connecting to
my ATT ISP. Sure enough I checked my setting and under Server
Settings connection setting showed SSL/TL and I have not done anything
to change it that I know of. Reset it to none and it connected
immediately so that leads me to believe for some reason it is resetting
itself thereby causing my problems connecting for mail. The newsgroups
though are OK.

Just thought I would pass it on in case others might have the same
problem.


AMEN!!!  The same happened to me , But With 4 computers thru the gatway 
and ONE wireless.

Had to turn off SSL as I stated .
About a year  ago Att sent emails telling us to Change to port 995 or we 
would not be able to Get e-mail after a Certain Date, Now they Tell us 
to Use port 110 with NO SSL .   Server is POP.ATT.YAHOO.COM  . The 
Outgoing Server is Still ssl   port 465 . Smtp.Att.yahoo.com.


 Computer #1   Seamonkey 2.0
 #2   Seamonkey  1.1.18
  #3  seamonkey   1.1.17
  #4  Seamonkey   2.0
  #5 Wireless   Seamonkey 2.0

And as posted above All e-mails Worked Fine till Yesterday .

Tech Support Guy ( Thru Supervisor) Said No Support Except for OUTLOOK . 
Then asked me if he could help me with Anything Else .. i Said Yes ... 
Then told him HOW DO I DISCONNECT FROM ATT and setup a New ISP ...


 He Hung up the phone .



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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Bush

Lee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I
can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.


Hi Paul

Well I have to SM 2.0 and previously reported on problems with my mail
program and again this morning it started up again not connecting to
my ATT ISP. Sure enough I checked my setting and under Server
Settings connection setting showed SSL/TL and I have not done anything
to change it that I know of. Reset it to none and it connected
immediately so that leads me to believe for some reason it is resetting
itself thereby causing my problems connecting for mail. The newsgroups
though are OK.

Just thought I would pass it on in case others might have the same
problem.


It cannot be a Seamonkey problem , Since we have been using SSL since 
2.0 Was released . And Then BANG it quits working with No 2.0 updates .

Wonder if any Thunderbirds users Have the Same problem ?
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Paul

Bush wrote:
Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They 
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but they 
Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must use port 
110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .

 This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer  with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


My ATT - yahoo email pop3 is not working this morning.
SM 1117, pop.att.yahoo.com, port 995.
I am going to spend hours on the phone now with clueless
ATT tech support.
I let ATT install ATTInternetInstaller.exe on my comp yesterday
after a modem p/w change.
Removed it and purged all its data last night after 5 techs did
not know anything about it.  It DID come from ATT.
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Bush

Paul wrote:

Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but
they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must
use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


My ATT - yahoo email pop3 is not working this morning.
SM 1117, pop.att.yahoo.com, port 995.
I am going to spend hours on the phone now with clueless
ATT tech support.
I let ATT install ATTInternetInstaller.exe on my comp yesterday
after a modem p/w change.
Removed it and purged all its data last night after 5 techs did
not know anything about it. It DID come from ATT.

Change the port to 110   No SSL

looks as if Microsoft is up to Something  Dominating Browers ... How 
much is Yahoo and Att making on this Deal ?

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread Bush

Paul wrote:

Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but
they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must
use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


My ATT - yahoo email pop3 is not working this morning.
SM 1117, pop.att.yahoo.com, port 995.
I am going to spend hours on the phone now with clueless
ATT tech support.
I let ATT install ATTInternetInstaller.exe on my comp yesterday
after a modem p/w change.
Removed it and purged all its data last night after 5 techs did
not know anything about it. It DID come from ATT.
don't you Remember The E-mail you got From ATT that Said You MUST use 
port 995 Before a certain Date ?

 Only Big $$  from Microsoft who Void that E-mail .
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl - UPDATE

2009-11-21 Thread Paul

Paul wrote:

Bush wrote:
Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They 
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but 
they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must 
use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .

 This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer  with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


My ATT - yahoo email pop3 is not working this morning.
SM 1117, pop.att.yahoo.com, port 995.
I am going to spend hours on the phone now with clueless
ATT tech support.
I let ATT install ATTInternetInstaller.exe on my comp yesterday
after a modem p/w change.
Removed it and purged all its data last night after 5 techs did
not know anything about it.  It DID come from ATT.


Problem solved.  When I changed my ATT account p/w and ATT updated
the modem, I forgot to change the smtp p/w.
Outgoing Port 465, SSL =ON, smtp.att.yahoo.com, works again.
Incoming Port 995, SSL =ON, pop.att.yahoo.com, works.
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread norm

Bush wrote:

Lee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I
can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.


Hi Paul

Well I have to SM 2.0 and previously reported on problems with my mail
program and again this morning it started up again not connecting to
my ATT ISP. Sure enough I checked my setting and under Server
Settings connection setting showed SSL/TL and I have not done anything
to change it that I know of. Reset it to none and it connected
immediately so that leads me to believe for some reason it is resetting
itself thereby causing my problems connecting for mail. The newsgroups
though are OK.

Just thought I would pass it on in case others might have the same
problem.


AMEN!!!  The same happened to me , But With 4 computers thru the gatway 
and ONE wireless.

Had to turn off SSL as I stated .
About a year  ago Att sent emails telling us to Change to port 995 or we 
would not be able to Get e-mail after a Certain Date, Now they Tell us 
to Use port 110 with NO SSL .   Server is POP.ATT.YAHOO.COM  . The 
Outgoing Server is Still ssl   port 465 . Smtp.Att.yahoo.com.


 Computer #1   Seamonkey 2.0
 #2   Seamonkey  1.1.18
  #3  seamonkey   1.1.17
  #4  Seamonkey   2.0
  #5 Wireless   Seamonkey 2.0

And as posted above All e-mails Worked Fine till Yesterday .

Tech Support Guy ( Thru Supervisor) Said No Support Except for OUTLOOK . 
Then asked me if he could help me with Anything Else .. i Said Yes ... 
Then told him HOW DO I DISCONNECT FROM ATT and setup a New ISP ...


 He Hung up the phone .



I am having the same issue with firefox on linux. Changing to port 110 
allows connection. Stupid.


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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-21 Thread norm

norm wrote:

Bush wrote:

Lee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is 
unaffected. I

can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.


Hi Paul

Well I have to SM 2.0 and previously reported on problems with my mail
program and again this morning it started up again not connecting to
my ATT ISP. Sure enough I checked my setting and under Server
Settings connection setting showed SSL/TL and I have not done anything
to change it that I know of. Reset it to none and it connected
immediately so that leads me to believe for some reason it is resetting
itself thereby causing my problems connecting for mail. The newsgroups
though are OK.

Just thought I would pass it on in case others might have the same
problem.


AMEN!!!  The same happened to me , But With 4 computers thru the 
gatway and ONE wireless.

Had to turn off SSL as I stated .
About a year  ago Att sent emails telling us to Change to port 995 or 
we would not be able to Get e-mail after a Certain Date, Now they Tell 
us to Use port 110 with NO SSL .   Server is POP.ATT.YAHOO.COM  . The 
Outgoing Server is Still ssl   port 465 . Smtp.Att.yahoo.com.


 Computer #1   Seamonkey 2.0
 #2   Seamonkey  1.1.18
  #3  seamonkey   1.1.17
  #4  Seamonkey   2.0
  #5 Wireless   Seamonkey 2.0

And as posted above All e-mails Worked Fine till Yesterday .

Tech Support Guy ( Thru Supervisor) Said No Support Except for OUTLOOK 
. Then asked me if he could help me with Anything Else .. i Said Yes 
... Then told him HOW DO I DISCONNECT FROM ATT and setup a New ISP ...


 He Hung up the phone .



I am having the same issue with firefox on linux. Changing to port 110 
allows connection. Stupid.



Meant thunderbird, not firefox, when posting earlier about my issue.

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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl - UPDATE

2009-11-21 Thread Bush

Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

Bush wrote:

Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues ,
They No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl)
but they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users
must use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


My ATT - yahoo email pop3 is not working this morning.
SM 1117, pop.att.yahoo.com, port 995.
I am going to spend hours on the phone now with clueless
ATT tech support.
I let ATT install ATTInternetInstaller.exe on my comp yesterday
after a modem p/w change.
Removed it and purged all its data last night after 5 techs did
not know anything about it. It DID come from ATT.


Problem solved. When I changed my ATT account p/w and ATT updated
the modem, I forgot to change the smtp p/w.
Outgoing Port 465, SSL =ON, smtp.att.yahoo.com, works again.
Incoming Port 995, SSL =ON, pop.att.yahoo.com, works.

Glad you got it Going
I just Tried again with 995
No luck

Had to go back port 110 None SSL

Talking to the Gateway  at  http://192.168.1.254/  I see nothing wrong 
with the Built-in Firewall


All settings are correct .
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-20 Thread Leonidas Jones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bush wrote:


Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They
No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but
they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must
use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18
Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17

None of the above can use SSL

Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .


I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product)
configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I
can send and receive mail normally, no complaints.

SM 1.1.16.

FWIW.



I've got the ATT Worldnet iservers setup on SM 2.0. no problems noted.

If port 995 is going to work on Outlook, its hard to imagine that it 
will not work in another mail client, such as Seamonkey or Thunderbird.


Lee
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Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl

2009-11-20 Thread NoOp
On 11/20/2009 06:25 PM, Bush wrote:
 Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They 
 No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but they 
 Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must use port 
 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me .
   This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed
 Same with my wife's omputer  with ver 1.1.18
 Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17
 
 None of the above can use SSL
 
 Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area .
 

No issues with standard ATT DSL here; still 995 w/pop.att.yahoo.com and
465 w/smtp.att.yahoo.com many email accounts via ATT.



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