that a sizeable black cloud had just emanated from the amp rack at
position 20 (where the audience was due to arrive in 5, no 4,
minutes...) the stink was noticeable 30m down the road.
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hammer while trying to come up with
an excuse for not having tried it ages ago
will rectify that asap. thanks for this pointer! i had always filed your
work as windows-only, maybe later, don't know why.
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the
ambisonic undertakings at the bbc are still newsworthy!
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it with a 4x4 room IR that will get stuff right... (in fact, i
could use one right now, because the IR sets that i have lack a number
of positions i'd need).
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it's cited in philip cotterel's thesis as the original source of the
second-order gradient microphone. i can't believe it's not on the web,
given its ripe old age.
any pointers would be welcome. (and no, i didn't find it in the
motherlode either.)
thanks in advance,
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On 12/16/2010 02:21 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
On 12/16/2010 01:48 PM, sascha.sp...@telekom.de wrote:
i need to get a windows box anyway, so i'll have a look at SSR
asap... sounds like it allows for easy A/B comparison between the
different rendering methods?
It currenly runs only under
, but
as it depends on GLUT, ecasound, and a number of other things (with
their own dependencies), building it might be a pain.
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a look at my website http://www.dtsac3.com
this page tried to force a popup on me which was blocked, and another
which sneaked past the blocker and told me i was the zillionth visitor
to this website and could claim a prize by entering my cell phone
number. what the f...?
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it in a while, requires
FLTK iirc.
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correspondent's choice of character encoding,
which, in the case of this thread, happens to be ISO-8859-1. your mailer
(or the digest mechanism of this list) wrongly assumes us-ascii, and
consequently displays ? as placeholders. clearly somebody else's
problem, but thanks for the heads-up.
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octava supply an a-to-b-format conversion tool? if not, you'd be in
for some serious DIY...
if you want excellent s/n, and you don't need height, use a
nimbus-halliday array. beats every tetrahedron at horizontal-only
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a proper convolver.
Right?
if you want to use cardioids, your best bet will be three at 120° angles.
i've played around with such a setup (recorded by fons with three
km184), and i found it works quite well. haven't had the chance to use
it myself yet.
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On 01/17/2011 02:33 PM, Paul Hodges wrote:
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netti...@stackingdwarves.net wrote:
if you want to use cardioids, your best bet will be three at 120° angles.
As briefly used by Michael Gerzon:
http://www.michaelgerzonphotos.org.uk/microphones
plotting, there's no concept of an inverted polarity lobe, instead r
is negative, which means that both halves of the eight are congruent on
the positive side).
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like to know if it's a purely object-oriented approach or
if you can also integrate natural recordings.
is the system agnostic to speaker layouts? how does it degrade if, say,
a composer works for 24.0 and we have to play back in 5.0 or stereo?
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a demo if you happen to be in
germany (or i in italy). musikmesse, maybe?
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to four or more
speakers using just three recording channels. that's another huge advantage.
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On 01/23/2011 01:41 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
In fact, the introduced system might deliver better results than say
Dolby Pro Logic IIz.
that's like saying this new car model is a lot faster than a dead whale
on the beach :-D
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considerably wider than the speaker angle, without ad-hoc tricks.
regards,
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amplifiers are meant to drive many speakers in parallel,
not many channels discretely, so the price per amp channel might be
prohibitive. but it does give you the option to run the amps and players
outside of the habitat, in conditions appropriate to semiconductors.
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On 03/20/2011 04:52 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:21:41AM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
What is this 'coupling' ?
just a frequently used technical term used by p.a. systems engineers to
describe the plain simple fact that a reasonably high number of point
sources
to change
are the speaker distances. you really want to use third-order panning.
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On 03/22/2011 01:39 PM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
Can someone please post a link to ambdec?
temporary location while fons is having problems with his ISP:
http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html
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dangling off a crane
or something.
i'd say as long as your recording has floor reflections, the added ones
won't hurt.
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reverberation of the listening room. in the SPIRAL with its RT60
of 0.3s, the effect was quite striking.
btw, subjectively, i have found that wet recordings already mask some
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order ambisonics.
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).
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will be, too. have to :)
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On 04/30/2011 02:12 AM, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
On 29 Apr 2011, at 19:15, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
but you are right, we are still heavily in the DIY + slightly
kludgy realm. then again, most ambisonics fans will be, too. have
to :)
That's large part of the problem of lack of adoption
be the only entity that defines the bus semantics.
then you need an n-way sum compressor with an intelligent enough (i.e.
not very) sidechain to be able to perform a max() operation, and presto:
arbitrary order ambisonics.
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luxurious outfit, your material will be able to exploit it.
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On 05/02/2011 12:09 AM, Richard Dobson wrote:
On 01/05/2011 20:29, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
..
the point is: if you want to produce in tenth order and have the means
to do it, your customer can still enjoy it on his/her 2nd order rig.
Fine. I agree. But what exactly is a '2nd order rig
On 05/02/2011 11:50 AM, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Mon, 02 May 2011 06:59:40 +0200,
Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net wrote :
not native, but here's a very simple one that has been shoehorned
into a third-order workstation:
http://cec.concordia.ca/econtact/11_3
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). he was able to comfortably locate all instruments
except the double bass (which was at 180°). i encouraged him to turn
around a bit, and reported stable localisation after the initial
homing-in process, too.
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ambisonic layouts for home use, rouse your spouse - minimally
intrusive multichannel systems for your bedroom, kindertotenlieder
resurrected - 45 surefire decoder tweaks for a mahler like you've never
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to join us on irc for conference-related
chitchat and real-time feedback. at the end of each session, you will
get the chance to ask questions to the presenter, which will be relayed
to the crowd in maynooth by a local chat operator.
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has recommended the KEF eggs
more than once, which are coax iiuc. they'd certainly be my HOA dream
setup for home use...
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but is to clear if they will suit my
needs for ambisonic.
can't comment on this, but at 150,- you're not quite in the pro or
semi-pro range for studio monitors, hence it might make more sense to
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of treble shelf boost to taste, and
that will usually get rid of any clear preference your listening
subjects might have, but it does indicate that there is more combing
going on at HF.
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and align it with some
delay.
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On 05/12/2011 07:55 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Le 12 mai 2011 13:46:56, Jörn Nettingsmeier a écrit :
On 05/11/2011 03:42 AM, Marc Lavallée wrote:
I like this idea of a full-sphere bass setup. There would be 3 (small)
subs on the floor (front-left, front-right, rear-center) and one on the
ceiling
in Southampton, they
are quite good for the size.
what kind of setup was that, and where? ambisonic?
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On 05/12/2011 11:13 PM, David Worrall wrote:
On 13/05/2011, at 3:35 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
ah well, bad choice of words. below expectations would have been
better. the IEM cube (24 speaker hemisphere)
I looked at the photo here: http://iem.at/services/studios/cube And I
fail to see
time, while all other factors (specifically
the W) remained constant? that would be cause for alarm.
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quite heavily on fons adriaensen's software, so
mac users will have to grind some code and start their X11 for maximum
enjoyment.
have fun,
jörn
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and create an inverse filter. we did measure, but i left it to
the systems engineer to provide a linear system using his tools. the
design of large line array systems is a lot messier than the
optimisation of studio speakers, and you won't go far if you take a too
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effect in connection
with a panner, say fons' AMB plugins and any old LADSPA delay/echo. then
you would have to write a small function generator that does interesting
things with the azimuth and elevation, or if it's a fixed tape
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a
full b-format as an input. in that case, swap panner for rotator,
tilter, tumbler.
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so far was create a few artificial reflections for soloist
microphones (using ardour busses, panning, eq and delay, very fussy and
not really feasible in day-to-day work.)
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, it works better than jacktrip in that
it doesn't cheat with synchronization. but it's also a lot more hairy to
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shopping for a new surround microphone.
Attached is a README that goes with the audio files.
Enjoy,
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-- next
near as
pleasant as simpler stereo microphones. in addition to coloration
problems, they suffer from noise problems due to the high gains required.
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On 07/09/2011 11:49 PM, dw wrote:
On 09/07/2011 22:28, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
ps. I am sure M Gerzon knew that ambisonics (low order) has theoretical
sweet spot the size of a pea, but it still sounds good to some people,
His fans are still as self-righteous as ever.
i could imagine way
cable and green felt marker discussions on
me, i'm happy to see them happy. :)
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.
if you're in a hurry, there are slides as well, which are a lot more
compact:
http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/tmt10/TMT2010_J%c3%b6rn_Nettingsmeier-Higher_order_Ambisonics-Slides.pdf
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genius. particularly his
illustrations are really helpful.
http://gyronymo.free.fr/audio3D/the_experimenter_corner.html
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.
there is a nice diploma thesis by peter plessas from iem graz that gives
a good overview of the design problems:
http://iem.at/projekte/acoustics/awt/mikrofon/project_view
don't be put off by the german abstract, the actual thesis is in english.
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On 07/11/2011 12:39 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
With all these efforts, why is actually nobody just marketing a
headphone solution with head-tracking?
smyth research makes one (called the realizer), or there's the
beyerdynamic headzone.
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On 07/12/2011 05:39 PM, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
there is an AES paper by simon goodwin that deals with this layout:
www.codemasters.com/research/3D_sound_for_3D_games.pdf
the rationale is that you can deliver a pre-decoded stream over the
eight channels of a hdmi
cues
which are more or less independent of ambisonics (any good recording
method can do it).
what you definitely won't get (with any order less than ridiculously
high) are sources closer than the ring of speakers.
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by visuals. the former are often limited to very specific content, and
for the latter, if you have visuals, then like it or not, mono is
totally adequate and the brain will do the rest (exaggerated, but only
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, it will
dominate your sense of distance. in that sense, larger rigs have the
potential to be less intrusive wrt distance perception.
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sorry, itchy trigger finger...
On 07/26/2011 10:14 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
as mentioned before, the floor reflection is a very strong distance cue
at close range under semi-anechoic conditions (i.e. if you want to gauge
the distance of that sabre-toothed tiger or the potential mating
here by giving precise numbers after
a day of mixing and three bottles of beer, but it's easy to see that 0.3
compared to 4 ohms is a significant fraction.
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order rigs, but i've done it on a
hexagon at home, and it was ok.
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particularly, the sound source visualisation was lots of fun.
of course it's not the ultra-high-end classical higher-order main
microphone many of us are waiting for, but then that's not what it's
designed to be.
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until
i can get a replacement, i took the box and put it in the rear (which is
clearly directional encoding).
john anthony andrews, i 0wnz y0u !
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On 09/24/2011 02:48 PM, Daniel Courville wrote:
Does somebody know in what year SoundField caps production started at MBHO?
i wonder: it's clearly evident that the capsules on the sps200 are made
by haun, but do they also manufacture the capsules for the other
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for free download,
but i need to convince the organisation team and find suitable bandwidth
(we're talking massive amounts of data...).
in any case, this will happen after the conference.
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always assumed a clap of some kind would start
with a clearly defined positive flank, and i can't remember seeing
anything else, but that's anecdotal evidence at best.
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(tr,
-1/3.0f) - 1)));
return 8.686f * f * f * (1.84e-11f * sqrt (tr) / p
+ powf (tr, -2.5f) * ( 0.01275f * (expf (-2239.1f / t) / (frO + f
* f / frO))
+ 0.10680f * (expf (-3352.0f / t) / (frN + f
* f / frN;
}
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explicitly.
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think of is when you have signal sets which are sensitive to
crosstalk, say an a/b stereo set. it will always sound nicer when routed
discretely to a pair of speakers than as two second-order ambisonic
phantom sources panned 60° apart
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listen to this?
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, and an out-of-phase ring.
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WXYZ format as it is, in order not to break
all existing recordings.
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such as the
directout andiamo (very affordable and excellent quality), or a madi to
adat bridge such as the one by rme, or the recently released directout
exbox adat (converts madi i/o to 8x adat io).
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experience with these ?
well, with the behringers, you get what you pay for, and you didn't pay
much. usable, and almost certainly not the weakest link in the chain
unless you've got big budget room acoustic treatment and really
sophisticated speakers.
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the resurrected
interest. it was simply not possible with 70s analog equipment or
80s/90s know-how and computing power.
and the entrance barrier to HOA is being lowered steadily.
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soundfield reconstruction, the human ability to judge
height is not too good, unless the listener tilts her/his head. visuals
or content usually win over actual direction, i.e. a sound is where you
think you see its source, and birds are up, footsteps are down.
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this happens.
22.2 is a strong argument to go for at least 4th order in production.
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guess the reason is our brain can sort out
one set of ERs as natural and work around the coloration, but not two
sets.)
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variation
thereof :-D
incidentally, higher-order panned sources are also way more stable with
respect to timbre.
and now: duck, and cover :)
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to many composers than
ambisonics and multichannel mixing
that is a phenomenon i haven't been able to figure out either :)
why do people still fall for the BEAST?
jörn (with apologies to the birmingham crew ;)
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On 04/18/2012 03:35 PM, Peter Lennox wrote:
No - HOA could be ideal for achieving spaciousness! - it can achieve that
decorrelation so much better...
ah, peter, how cold-hearted of you to slap the baby with a steak.
back to lurk mode... :)
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the resulting omni signal according to
the number of capsules you used.
best,
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, and then it may work well for a few people, but
certainly not for the majority of listeners.
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malicious seeder to seek softer
targets elsewhere.
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