[biofuels-biz] California Plans Cuts in Vehicle CO2 Emissions

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2002/2002L-02-01-06.html Environment News Service: California Plans Cuts in Vehicle CO2 Emissions By Cat Lazaroff SACRAMENTO, California, February 1, 2002 (ENS) - By the narrowest of margins, the California State Assembly has approved a bill that could create the

[biofuels-biz] Generally Stalled Motors

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
Generally Stalled Motors General Motors Corp. is not doing nearly enough to improve the fuel economy of its vehicles, according to a report released yesterday. That might not seem like news, but the organization that released the report, the Boston-based Coalition for Environmentally Responsible

[biofuels-biz] Biodiesel plant sites considered

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.stjoenews-press.com/Main.asp?SectionID=81SubSectionID=272; ArticleID=24821 St. Joseph News-Press Biodiesel plant sites considered By SUSAN MIRES [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least three communities in the area are potential sites for biodiesel refineries. Representatives of Zambrana

[biofuel] California Plans Cuts in Vehicle CO2 Emissions

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2002/2002L-02-01-06.html Environment News Service: California Plans Cuts in Vehicle CO2 Emissions By Cat Lazaroff SACRAMENTO, California, February 1, 2002 (ENS) - By the narrowest of margins, the California State Assembly has approved a bill that could create the

Re: [biofuel] ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
I am new to this group so this may have already been answered before, but I have not been able to find any information on it yet. I keep seeing information about energy use for distillation being a limiting factor using ethanol as an alternative fuel source. Has anyone looked into using some

[biofuel] Generally Stalled Motors

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
Generally Stalled Motors General Motors Corp. is not doing nearly enough to improve the fuel economy of its vehicles, according to a report released yesterday. That might not seem like news, but the organization that released the report, the Boston-based Coalition for Environmentally Responsible

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread randallbarron1
Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high ethanol concentration with distillation. What about using solar energy to preheat your solution before it reaches a regular still. If you could preheat with solar power, less energy would need to be input it to the final

[biofuel] Biodiesel plant sites considered

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.stjoenews-press.com/Main.asp?SectionID=81SubSectionID=272; ArticleID=24821 St. Joseph News-Press Biodiesel plant sites considered By SUSAN MIRES [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least three communities in the area are potential sites for biodiesel refineries. Representatives of Zambrana

[biofuel] Diesel never smelled like this

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53%257E385631,00.html Denver Post.com - Diesel never smelled like this Biodiesel fuel nontoxic, veggie By Erin Emery Denver Post Southern Colorado Bureau Thursday, February 07, 2002 - PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE - A ferry from San Francisco to Alcatraz,

[biofuel] Kentucky eyes biodiesel rule

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.etrucker.com/apps/news/article.asp?id=13874 e T r u c k e r - News Kentucky eyes biodiesel rule By Sean Kelley The Kentucky legislature is considering a bill that would require all diesel sold in the state to contain 2 percent biodiesel, a fuel derived from food-based waste oils or

[biofuel] Re: Biofuel plants and new processes.

2002-02-08 Thread Shukrainternationals
We are interested in medium to large scale manufacturing plant of Biodiesel fuel to take up commercial production. We are also interested to hear about new and improved processes developed to produce Biodiesel in commercial quantity using cooking oil (used), used grease and animal waste. We

[biofuel] University of Georgia heats campus buildings with chicken fat

2002-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/02/02082002/ap_46348.asp - 2/8/2002 - ENN.com University of Georgia heats campus buildings with chicken fat Friday, February 08, 2002 By Associated Press ATHENS, Ga. - At the University of Georgia, home to thousands of students raised on Southern fried

Re: [biofuel] Re: Vacumn distillation

2002-02-08 Thread r . p . kurz
most whiskey makers use copper in the production of drinkable alcohol. i can't see why biofuel requires 316 stainless. stainless is required in pharmacutical and food processing ,but this is usually 304 stainless as it welds better than 316 and is less expensive. regards,roger

[biofuel] Re: canola vs. soy oil... stuff...

2002-02-08 Thread jmwelter
Keith, I have made a couple jpg files showing the basics of the iodine test. I could also attach a text file or something to explain the whole procedure, but basically, what an iodine test does, is not to show the amount of double bonds, but how reactive those bonds are (the more double

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you make your solar collector strong enought,you can use vacuum distillation at solar collector temperatures to distill ethanol. regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There have been several mentions of vacuum distilation on the

Re: [biofuel] ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread J Killen
how about freezing rathar than distillation... seems to work for mountain shine! john From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] ethanol distillation Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:34:14 +0900 I am new to this

[biofuel] unsubcsribe

2002-02-08 Thread J Killen
unsubscribe please From: randallbarron1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:41:41 - Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high ethanol concentration

RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread kirk
I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14%=28proof) -Original Message- From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:51 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14% =28proof) That is also my understanding. The alcohol starts to kill the Yeast above 10%, and they are nearly all dead by 14%. On the temp side, 140F kills them off. That

Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread Terry Wilhelm
This is one of the reasons that The Revenoor Co. www.revenoor.com offers all alcohol stills with internal solar/steam coils. Terry --- randallbarron1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high ethanol concentration with distillation. What

Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread r . p . kurz
there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand 20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would be affected by a low vacuum.i think that you are pursuing an interesting avenue of

RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread kirk
The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is an unknown to me but if the liquid column is deep enough that should establish a viability zone and a piece of filter (plastic or plasticized paper?) could keep all the yeasties happy below that barrier. As to vapor pressure I think you are

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand 20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would be affected by a low vacuum.i

RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread r . p . kurz
freezing causes the yeast's cell wall to rupture,killing them and therefore stopping further ethanol production. regards,roger The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is an unknown to me but if the liquid column is deep enough that should establish a viability zone and a piece

RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread rwe
Motie, Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human consumption? By Raw -Original Message- From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2002 10:11 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation --- In

RE: [biofuel] Re: Vacumn distillation

2002-02-08 Thread rwe
Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human consumption? By Raw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2002 5:53 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Vacumn distillation most

RE: [biofuel] Diesel never smelled like this

2002-02-08 Thread rwe
Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human consumption? By Raw -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2002 2:45 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Diesel

Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread r . p . kurz
motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F). i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F. roger --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand 20%+. with

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
I'll interpose my thoughts into the body of your message. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is an unknown to me but if the liquid column is deep enough that should establish a viability zone and a piece of filter

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], rwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motie, Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human consumption? By Raw Not yet, but it may 'accidently' occur occasionaly. I may have to further purify a small sample occasionally for 'lab tests'! LOL I'm

[biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F). i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F. roger Thanks. That would much simplify the process, if it can be done

RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation

2002-02-08 Thread kirk
Are you pumping the liquid solution, or just the vapors? Just the vapor is moving across. You have space over the liquid and the air is connected to a cold space that is lower so the cold air is stable. As the alcohol becomes dew the partial vapor pressure renews the concentration. A