...I just put a plug on the exit hole of the tray of my window
style ac unit and the fan starts to splash and spray water on
the condenser.
Brilliant! I like it.
-Redler
Juan Boveda wrote:
Hello Mike Redler.
I did have the same idea by observing big air conditioner units that uses a
spray
You could also take a look at these:
http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/proceedings/01/carbon_seq/5a4.pdf
http://www.greenfuelonline.com/news/IECR.pdf
They're listed under Resources on the same Green Car Congress page.
Todd Swearingen
Kirk McLoren wrote:
So where are these guys published?
Only possible for a few?
Roughly speaking, if you filled your (50 gallon?) tub once with cold
city water, absorbed the heat in your small house or apartment by
transferring it into the tub using a moderate size air conditioner
(12000 to 15000 Btu/hr), I'm sure you wouldn't be causing a
Cell line? I don't follow. This is done with concentrators, fiber-optics
and essentially hydroponics. There are no solar cells.
You did look at the link that was offered, yes?
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html
Todd Swearingen
Kirk McLoren wrote:
So where are
50 gallons x 8 pound per gallon = 400 pounds. Since 1 BTU raises 1 pound 1 degree F we can put 400 BTU in the tub per degree F 12000/400 =30 degrees.So it seems a tub is good for 1 to 2 hours depending on inlet temperature. So if every household in NYC draws a bathtub every hour and dumps
first one doesnt display and 2nd one is discussion of scrubbing and algal growth. No reference to the vunderalgae that is an oilcrop.KirkAppal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also take a look at
cell line as in living cells. Algae usually are joined chains of single cells. They arent higher structures like leaves and stalks and flowers. They usually convert sunlight and nutrients into sugar and fiber. I dont know any that are oil producers like the seeds of higher plants. Are you sure oil
Great info Derick thank you.
Derick Giorchino wrote:
I have a
04 dodge with a Cummins and
have been running it on b100 for 1 years after researching this to
death. And
finding nothing on bio in late models Cummins talks in circles about
bio saying
the jury is still
any cell has a membrane which is comprised of a lipid bilayer,
therefore anything alive makes lipids. Certain varieties do produce
fairly lipid content. Here is a cite claiming 40% dry weight.
http://www.energybulletin.net/1330.html
Kirk McLoren wrote:
cell line as in living cells. Algae
Hey Kirk;
Ever slept on a waterbed that got unplugged and woken up at 4 am
shivering? Cooling my beduh ...no thanks.
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Yes but using water like that certainly is only possible for a
few. Most water systems are stressed already. The best method would be
to use
Hey Mike;
A lot of energy goes in to cleaning city water and in this day and age
where water is getting scarce using treated water for cooling is not
too cool (pun) but as I said in my area it is illegal to do it and I
suspect in other places too.
Joe
Mike Redler wrote:
Understood.
If you had been in my house last week. The ac blew Friday night and Saturday we set a record high. A cold bed would have been marvelous.KirkJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kirk;Ever slept on a waterbed that got unplugged and woken up at 4 am shivering? Cooling my beduh ...no
Sweet. Interesting the author of referenced article doesnt see a difference between biofuel using carbon already in the atmosphere vs releasing sequestered via petro diesel. So how do we extract the lipid? Solvent? Looks like the energy problem is solved.Kirkbob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Sweet.
Interesting the author of referenced article doesnt see a difference
between biofuel using carbon already in the atmosphere vs releasing
sequestered via petro diesel.
that's because it is Patzak, one of Pimental's fellow travelers.
So how do we extract the
Keith,
So in short Todd, as with the last 25 years, there is no biodiesel
from algae right now on Planet Earth, but hey! it's just around the
corner (December next year this time). Ho-hum, yawn...
You can ho-hum-hokum-yawn all you wish.
What good things are there that you can think of that
You've got to read between the lines. And it helps a little to know how
far apart they're placing the vertical mesh.
You don't really think that anyone would sequester carbon via algae
production and then just kinda' forget to do something with the oil, do you?
Todd Swearingen
Kirk McLoren
Why genetic engineering is dangerous
by Pat Howard and Arne Hansen
Common Ground (Canada)
August 2006
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0608181/cg181_GMOs.shtml
Common Ground - July 2006 - The world is not an ice cream cone
The Canadian GM risk assessment process is so simplistic that not a
single
Whoa, you still sleep on a waterbed? ;-)
I had one years ago, the good ones with the coils for added support.
Had to get rid of it after about 8 months because of back pain and
restless. nights. They are really bad for your back as they offer very little
support. Anyone that I know who ever
had
Keith,
Right Todd, more big-central stuff, with a cast of millions (of
dollars)
Being cynical is fine and quite often healthy. Being oblivious to what
surrounds one is often to one's own and other's detriment.
There are over 15,000 commercial boilers in the US. We're not speaking of just
hot
Well, Todd
Keith,
So in short Todd, as with the last 25 years, there is no biodiesel
from algae right now on Planet Earth, but hey! it's just around the
corner (December next year this time). Ho-hum, yawn...
You can ho-hum-hokum-yawn all you wish.
Indeed I can.
What good things are there
O.K. so this is getting old now.
Your first criticism said that such an idea wouldn't work because
sewers aren't good heat sinks without acknowledging that the properties
of the drain are irrelevant. Then you suggest that lowering the
temperature of a room and maintaining the temperature of a
Ahhh it was 33 degrees C in my bedroom Tuesday night and the humidity
made it feel more like 48 degrees! I did manage to sleep but I admit
the following day I ran the AC for a couple of hours in the evening
till it was down to 28. I still wouldn't want to sleep on a cold
surface, and what
Good point Joe. Thanks.
I wonder if there are other options for city dwellers. My focus in this
thread has been a search for the benefits of geoexchange without the
hole. What if the water were stored and used later (in limited
quantities, of course). Perhaps that would negate the legal
I never said I had a waterbed. But I slept on one when I was staying
with freinds one time and it got unplugged. Nasty. I preffer a futon.
Air does flow through blankets and sheets (and the futon actually) and
any time you run chilled water through pipes you can get condensation
so talk about
Yes, he's a little over the top.
regardless, we are in for some tough years ahead,
regards
tallex
---Original Message---
From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] when chaos replaces oil
Sent: 03 Aug '06 17:02
I am sure that at 20 dollars a gallon there
Mike Redler wrote:
snip
Most importantly, your dinner party analogy implies that I can afford
all the electricity I want which would make many wonder why I'm on
this list, making suggestions about efficient use of energy (even if
they do have flaws).
I appreciate those who had more
Our AC works fine but I don't like using it as it really adds up.
You also start out comfortable but an hour later if you set it too cold, you
end up using a sheet to
keep your front from freezing and your back and body core is still hot.
I mentioned the thermocouple idea as I have all the
Yes,
just what we need.
The Decider deciding he needs more powers. Shheesh
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51140
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Sorry about replying to my own post but I wanted to high light this as well.
Bush said during a televised address from the East Room of the White House
shortly after
signing his executive order. I promise the American people that I will not
abuse this new
power, unless it becomes necessary
...nice.
:-)
AltEnergyNetwork wrote:
Our AC works fine but I don't like using it as it really adds up.
You also start out comfortable but an hour later if you set it too cold, you end up using a sheet to
keep your front from freezing and your back and body core is still hot.
I mentioned
Hello Joe Street, Mike Redler and all.
About a lifter pump for the amount of water required for evaporation,
it could be a windshield washer pump I think is enough but you need
a transformer with a rectifier to have 13 volts DC from 110 or 220 AC.
They might be expensive unless they come from a
No condensation but rivulets of sweat. I imagine the mattress would have to be placed in the sun if this was a continuous experience. I like the Japanese approach to sleeping space - the one where you rent an airconditioned tube. I can survive if I can sleep. Fortunately it cooled off enough by
Evidently you want to hear what you want to hear or else. . .Capillary tubes is the method of construction for small AC units. They are engineered to work under the usual room conditions. Their usage is because people want small AC units to be inexpensive.You want to alter the conditions. I
Hey Kirk. Thanks for the description of the capilary units... I never understood why AC units (and fridges too) wouldn't function well under conditions of very cold condensers, which you'd think would work better. But I was approaching it from a textbook perspective, which always shows an
Hey Juan, looks like you got an itch.
:-)
- Redler
Juan Boveda wrote:
Hello Joe Street, Mike Redler and all.
About a lifter pump for the amount of water required for evaporation,
it could be a windshield washer pump I think is enough but you need
a transformer with a rectifier to have 13
Thank for the info.
Derick, I Would like to see pictures of your
processor.
I have made a few sample liters of biodiesel
and this weekend will do a few more using used oil to nasty used oil to get
abetter feel for the the things that should and should not happen. Today a
found a supply of
I've been sleeping on a waterbed for lets see about 35 years. The only time my
back hurts is when I
travel and sleep on anything but a waterbed. In the summer we peel back the
cover and get the
coolth.
AltEnergyNetwork wrote:
Whoa, you still sleep on a waterbed? ;-)
I had one years ago,
Yea. Juan's idea got my attention too.
The inefficiencies due to the latent heat of vaporization go "poof!"
since the final phase of that H2O is...humidity, right? That is to say,
in a perfect world, vapor turned to condensation then back to vapor
again after throwing it on the condenser
Previously, the president only had the power to petition Congress to
allow him to grant himself the power to grant more power to himself,
Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez said shortly after the ceremony.
Now, the president can grant himself the power to interpret new laws
however he sees fit,
I was innocently listening to NPR this afternoon,
when lo and behold, they had a feature on food miles!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5618390
Any story on NPR that even MENTIONS food miles illustrates that there
IS hope!
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