Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-03 Thread Terry Dyck
Insight into a lot of this discussion could come from a popular book called: Natural Cures They don't want you to know about. By Kevin Trudeau Terry Dyck From: Kurt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-02 Thread Joe Street
Hey I can chime in on this one. I know a guy who fabricates micro sized atomic mass spectrometers and as I pointed out in the thread about the micro biodiesel reactor there are non linear effects to reducing the size of reaction chambers that are seen in sensitivity in his device that I

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-02 Thread Michele Stephenson
yes, i'm interested in hypnosis... interested in dispelling misconceptions and learning more about what's inside. thanks From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court Date: Tue, 28

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-02 Thread Michele Stephenson
. michele From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:33:05 +0900 Hello Zeke Sympathies. Recently, I've found myself unable to concentrate, depressed

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I know it is hard to walk out on a job without knowing what is coming, but congratulations on your obvious self love. I will send you some energy that hopefully will help you find a way to live better. I am a middle aged woman who is busting her butt building a farm so hubby can

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Joe Street
I agree Kim; Doctors are not in the business of health, they are in the business of treating disease. Joe Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, Then answer the question: how many people do you know that don't take drugs, daily? I have been in the US for 13 years and have yet to find a

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Gary L. Green
There are more kinds of Doctors in the world than just medical doctors and some of us ARE concerned with health. On 01Mar, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Joe Street wrote: I agree Kim; Doctors are not in the business of health, they are in the business of treating disease.

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread bob allen
Howdy Kirk, Kirk McLoren wrote: We find that there is a lot of concern about mercury and burning coal yet you advocate a mercury source that is much more concentrated as not a demonstrable health problem. Environmental releases of Hg is not where we started. I agree whole heartedly with

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
vide. "Look" or "see." This phrase refers the reader to an earlier statement or definition within the body of the essay. The must common uses are "vide 63" (which means "see page sixty-three"), v.s. vide supra ("see earlier" or "look above on this page") and v.i. vide infra ("See below" or

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
The way it was explained to me (by a healthcare professional)is the problem is how the drug initializes. First the inhibitory process that has kept the depressed person from acting out their suicidal tendency is suppressed. It is as you said 2 months before you dont give a . . . and are not

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread John Morris
Keith wrote: What's the difference? John Morris said it's a matter of market supply and demand: If people demanded health, that same system would provide health. No it wouldn't, that's not on the table. What's missing from this glad view of the inevitable democratic outcome of market

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread bob allen
the subject at hand: is there evidence to support the claim that dental amalgams are poisoning people, and have been for a century. I suggested that their is scant evidence to support the claim. I'm not saying that it isn't a reasonable hypothesis. I am being neither quarrelsome nor blind,

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Kurt
Joe Street wrote: I agree Kim; Doctors are not in the business of health, they are in the business of treating disease. Joe That's my view of things, too. If something is immediately life threatening or obviously broken (Broken wrist and severe bronchitis come to my immediate

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
Certainly more bruxation should increase release but I think what is chewed may be more significant. I noticed a spinach salad left my amalgam fillings shiny and new appearing and sheep or other farm animals seldom eat spinach salads. Since the fillings were "cleaned" I think a lot of material was

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Andres Secco
AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Quackbuster" Busted in Court I agree Kim;Doctors are not in the business of health, they are in the business of treating disease.Joe Visita www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar ms rpido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread bob allen
Howdy Kirk, I am really not trying to be a pest here, but the discussion of oxalate doesn't make sense. Assuming that cooking spinach in milk forms calcium oxalate, it would be converted back into free oxalic acid in the stomach. once in the blood it is filtered in the kidney, but as the

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-03-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
That suks. I had hoped I was safe as I like spinach soufle. The article I read said that calcium oxalate was not absorbed as wellso milk was a good additive. I actually must say I have no idea in this instance and thank you for the info. Looks like spinach is off the list for me as I have only 1

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Gary L. Green
That was fun. As a Chiropractor I get lots of this kind of stuff thrown at me, both information and accusations. As chiros are at the heart of Barrett's hate I'm very familiar with him. It was nice to get a glimpse behind the curtain to see how he is funded and the trouble he's in.

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread bob allen
I try to keep an open mind but certain individuals are so over the top as to loose all credibility. From the cited article, it was hard to tell just what was won. Bolen makes it seem like a really big deal, but, all I could find was that aetna did not have standing to make the claims they

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Is this a surprise? How many people do you know, reguardless of age that don't take at least one prescription drug a day? For us, it is just us, everyone we know takes them. Doctors in this country tell people that what they eat makes no difference to their health. Diabetics are told

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread John Hayes
Garth Kim Travis wrote: Doctors in this country tell people that what they eat makes no difference to their health. Diabetics are told that sugar intake has nothing to do with diabetes. Kim, I don't mean to be harsh, but that is utter and complete horseshit. My sister and her husband,

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Joe Street
Well there are two sides to every story John; I'm here to tell ya I have had discussions with my daughter's pediatrician and he thinks a Big Mac is a balanced meal. I've been told that in medical school the subject of nutrition is covered in one single course and it is mostly about memorizing

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread John Morris
Is this a surprise? How many people do you know, reguardless of age that don't take at least one prescription drug a day? Me (39), all of my step children and their partners (20 to 32), most of my grandchildren, my father (72) and most of my friends. I know more people who don't than who

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
So lets try for a bit of objectivity here - I think Wilzig is pc and saying this modality is bunk. So what do other dentists think that are outside the liability issue if American dentists ever admit they have poisoned people for a century - remember this is enormously larger than tobacco. In

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread John Hayes
Hey Joe. I'll certainly admit there are physicians who are out of date and out of touch with regard to modern practice guidelines. But getting from there to blanket statements about doctors in this country is a pretty huge leap. With regard to your daughter's pediatrician, if he really

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread bob allen
Howdy Kirk, let me suggest we conduct this colloquy on one thing at a time, it makes keeping track of the score easier. Kirk McLoren wrote: So lets try for a bit of objectivity here - I think Wilzig is pc and saying this modality is bunk. So what do other dentists think that are outside

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Then answer the question: how many people do you know that don't take drugs, daily? I have been in the US for 13 years and have yet to find a doctor that knows anything about diet. And no, not just rural doctors. If the doctors are so great, then why is our health care so bad?

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Well, I did try this, talking to an RD, and you know what, most of her recommendations came from a package. That's right, the prepared chemical food that makes you nice and sick. Her comment was to ask why I was talking to her, since I already knew more about nutrition than she did.

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Recently, I've found myself unable to concentrate, depressed, having trouble sleeping, being unmotivated, constantly being angry. I'm sure that if I went to see a doctor about this, he or she could prescribe something to try to help. This is civilized society's response to this condition. Go

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
I have discovered hypnosis. I am extremely enthusiastic about it. And yes - western mental health is about getting zombied out. Did you know all those shooters such as Columbine were prozac kiddies? Press didnt say much about that fact - not pc. The press also doesnt talk about the prozac

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
We find that there is a lot of concern about mercury and burning coal yet you advocate a mercury source that ismuch more concentrated as not a demonstrable health problem. You need to see what is wrong with your search engine Bob. You only seem to find politically correct authorities to quote.

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kim, John and all Greetings, Well, I did try this, talking to an RD, and you know what, most of her recommendations came from a package. That's right, the prepared chemical food that makes you nice and sick. Her comment was to ask why I was talking to her, since I already knew more about

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Zeke Sympathies. Recently, I've found myself unable to concentrate, depressed, having trouble sleeping, being unmotivated, constantly being angry. I'm sure that if I went to see a doctor about this, he or she could prescribe something to try to help. This is civilized society's

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-28 Thread Cameron Stoker
$0.02 Most SSRI's (prozac friends) take 4 to 8 weeks to take effect - many of these deaths are because the medication _isn't_ working yet. That said, I believe there are studies showing that a good dose of sunshine i.e. morning walks, are just as effective at treating depression as

[Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
American health system rated #72 by WHO and the #1 killer of Americans.Incidentally also the most expensive health care in the world Kirk http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/feature_article023.htm Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-27 Thread bob allen
I'll be the first to admit the the health care system in the US is loaded for the rich, but to quote Tim Bolen? He is a shill for some of the nuttiest quackery on the planet. He is (or was) the publicist for Hulda Clark, who claims one gets aids when liver flukes migrate to the thymus,

Re: [Biofuel] Quackbuster Busted in Court

2006-02-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am not a fan of Hulda. The referenced article is just the news about Aetna and justice. I dont expect a reporter to be more than a compiler of data. - and the data in this case seems fairly clear. Most reporting is politically correct as most of us are sensitive to career and feeding our