[Biofuel] WVO contaminated with polyester resin

2012-01-22 Thread Mike Erdman
Hi I am new to this list, but have been making my own biodiesel for about three years. I have recently been given about 400 litres of WVO which unfortunately was put into drums that had contained fibreglass resin, I have let this stand for about 3 months and drawn oil from the middle of the

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-13 Thread Gavin Kalan
hei keith, our organization consists of musicians who want to take responsibility for our energy use - we are interested in any technology that can power our live sound needs sustainably. wvo biodiesel is a great idea in general, but a logistical nightmare for our circumstances: sourcing

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hei Gavin hei keith, our organization consists of musicians who want to take responsibility for our energy use - we are interested in any technology that can power our live sound needs sustainably. Yes I know that, otherwise I wouldn't have ventured an opinion. wvo biodiesel is a great idea

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-13 Thread Gavin Kalan
hei keith, thanks for feedback + links, i was introducing our idea to the rest of the group as well. i did read the links, which is why i ask for input about centrifuges as none of those points are addressed in the video. if centrifuges dont work well as you say, are they being dishonest?

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hei Gavin hei keith, thanks for feedback + links, i was introducing our idea to the rest of the group as well. i did read the links, which is why i ask for input about centrifuges as none of those points are addressed in the video. if centrifuges dont work well as you say, are they being

[Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-12 Thread Gavin Kalan
anybody familiar with this centrifuge method? any insight appreciated! http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2010/may/11/ethical-living-diy-big-society /g. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2010-05-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Gavin anybody familiar with this centrifuge method? any insight appreciated! http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2010/may/11/ethical-living-diy-big-society /g. He has a reason to use a centrifuge - he's mobile, he collects the oil as he travels, there's no time to let it settle.

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-24 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip Slow response, sorry. Keith Addison wrote: Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-20 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Roger Thanks for the reply. A combination...My F250 Diesel, Oil Heat, My father's F250, and some for the neighbor's house. Four users then, averaging enough for three people each (who also use too much). I suppose the 500 Gallons is a winter number - maybe 300 gallons in the summer to

[Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Roger
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm just outside of

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Roger wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm just

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Keith Addison
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm just outside of

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home.

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Steve Moran
: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:47 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant within 10 miles. I've found

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Keith Addison
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:47 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA Keith Addison wrote: I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Roger
A combination...My F250 Diesel, Oil Heat, My father's F250, and some for the neighbor's house. I suppose the 500 Gallons is a winter number - maybe 300 gallons in the summer to support the lot of us. I go through about 250 gallons a month myself (in the winter). That's only 1 tank per week

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA

2008-06-19 Thread Steve Moran
: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA Maybe he's working with a group of guys to make it. Maybe he owns a delivery truck. Maybe he owns a company that has 12 trucks in its fleet. Maybe he has a hole in his storage tank. Maybe he'll tell us himself. Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted

2008-05-27 Thread Thomas Kelly
: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted try this. its written in terms of glycerine, but i think junk grease and fryer slime would work as well. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html#burn you could also make a huge pile of these logs and dump them a handful

Re: [Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted

2008-05-15 Thread Jason Mier
the sludge product before using it as a fertilizer. Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:00:26 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted What are you doing with your WVO sludge? I know

[Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted

2008-05-14 Thread Ken Dunn
What are you doing with your WVO sludge? I know this topics been discussed in the past but, it seems only to a limited degree. I have two needs - the first is long term - how am I going to handle the sludge from my regular use? I use WVO in my car and in my boiler. The second concern is more

Re: [Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane?

2008-03-13 Thread Olivier Morf
PROTECTED] Reply-To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:29:07 +0900 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane? The price of cooking oil went up. The supply of WVO from the restaurant we usually get it from went right down, from

Re: [Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane?

2008-03-13 Thread Fritz Friesinger
a Labelle Province Restaurant Fritz - Original Message - From: Olivier Morf To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane? Hi Keith, Regarding your last paragraph, I can confirm

[Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane?

2008-03-05 Thread Keith Addison
The price of cooking oil went up. The supply of WVO from the restaurant we usually get it from went right down, from more than enough to much less than enough (though we also have other sources, so no big problem). The FFA content went up, doubling from a titration of 0.8 - 1.2 ml 0.1% NaOH

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators ; VO ou BD or Blend:Small System MODEL

2008-01-18 Thread keith
Hi Chandan, Pagandai and all Dear Pannirselvam, Thanks for the detailed response. I gather that there is good opportunity to add to the experimentally established results on castor based biodiesel and the blends that might work well. I'm right now exploring a tie-up with one of the govt

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators ; VO ou BD or Blend:Small System MODEL

2008-01-15 Thread Pagandai Pannirselvam
Dear Chandan and all the list member Even though I am in Brazil ,which export the meat very large , I actualy live in the native place of south American Indians, even though I also india from south India as you pointed out , Today the Festival Pongal not only in Tamil nadu state ,

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators ; VO ou BD or Blend:Small System MODEL

2008-01-15 Thread Chandan Haldar
Dear Pannirselvam, Thanks for the detailed response. I gather that there is good opportunity to add to the experimentally established results on castor based biodiesel and the blends that might work well. I'm right now exploring a tie-up with one of the govt research labs and an agricultural

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-10 Thread Pagandai Pannirselvam
] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Hello Tom Hello All, On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote: The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel can make possible the use of pure

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators or BD or Blend

2008-01-10 Thread Pagandai Pannirselvam
Happy new year for all the list members I am Pagandai Pannirselvam from Brazil. Very glad that after some 2 years of my post about blended biofuel , we have now come agian to make the debate. When I wrote about hydrated ethanol is E 96 azeotropic mixture as correctly pointed out by

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators or BD or Blend

2008-01-10 Thread Chandan Haldar
Pannirselvam, Happy New Year to you from India. Good to see your mail after a long time, but I'm quite confused by it. I thought Keith only reported what YOU wrote earlier on 9/25/2006 (regarding mixing ~20% BD and 5-10% ethanol into (fresh/used) VO to reduce viscosity). Could you please

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-08 Thread keith
. Best to You, And to you Tom Keith Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Hello Tom Hello All

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Tom, you could have achieved the low startload of havy motors with a Star Delta switch. Fritz - Original Message - From: Tom Thiel To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
) to run in a diesel motor? Tom - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Seems to me like an engine running

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Tom, Thanks for the reply. I'll pass on the info Tom - Original Message - From: Tom Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
- From: Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Hi Tom, i have a 100KvA 600V Dieselgenerator with a 140 HP Mitsubishi Engine.The consumption by staedy 30A

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Hello Tom Hello All, On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote: The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel can

[Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-06 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hello All, On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote: The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel can make possible the use of pure used vegetable oil and also some e 5 porcent hydrated ethanol , making possible to lower the viscosity of used vegetable oil in

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Seems to me like an engine running an 8 hour shift would be ideal for SVO -- you'd have to start it on biodiesel till it got up to operating temperature, then just make sure the incoming SVO is as hot as you can get it -- 180F or higher. The schemes to just thin SVO with biodiesel and ethanol

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-06 Thread Fritz Friesinger
: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:01 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators Hello All, On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote: The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel can make possible the use of pure used vegetable

Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators

2008-01-06 Thread Tom Thiel
Regarding starting motors in our off-grid woodshop: we treat 1 horsepower motors as intermittent-use, starting and stopping them at will. Larger motors are paired with a 1 horsepower motor to start each machine. After it is up to speed, the main motor is turned on. This system reduces the

Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze

2007-12-16 Thread Thomas Kelly
PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil would happen to leak into the environment for any

Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze

2007-12-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil would

Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze

2007-12-14 Thread Doug Younker
I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil would happen to leak into the environment for any reason, you may be held responsible for the

[Biofuel] WVO squeeze

2007-12-10 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hello, Is there any down side to placing a small barrel (15 or 30 gal/ ~ 55 or 115L) at restaurants for them to put their WVO in? I ask because I am finding increased hijacking of my WVO. This despite owners assuring me that they tell anyone who asks for the WVO: No. We already have

Re: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel

2007-03-16 Thread fox mulder
@sustainablelists.orgmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel I have been searching the archives with various keywords for a post about what happens when you try to react oil that has a few percent of petroleum

Re: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel

2007-03-16 Thread Joe Street
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel I have been searching the archives with various keywords for a post about what happens when you try

[Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel

2007-03-15 Thread Joe Street
I have been searching the archives with various keywords for a post about what happens when you try to react oil that has a few percent of petroleum diesel in it. I seem to remember the subject came up some time back but I cannot find it. Does anyone know what happens in this case? Does the

Re: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel

2007-03-15 Thread JAMES PHELPS
, March 15, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO contaminated with diesel fuel I have been searching the archives with various keywords for a post about what happens when you try to react oil that has a few percent of petroleum diesel in it. I seem to remember the subject came up some time

Re: [Biofuel] WVO damaging paint easy way to correct the problem

2006-09-14 Thread Joe Street
very well with no damage to the paint but be aware there will be no wax ether. Good luck: Derick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:51 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] WVO

[Biofuel] WVO damaging paint easy way to correct the problem

2006-09-13 Thread John Wilson
Hi, No matter how much cleaning I did after I spilled a little WVO on the car I ended up with a big, fat stain on the side of my car. I just had my car painted and it is in show room condition so I did not want a fat stain destroying the looks. I came up with a very simple solution. I took all

Re: [Biofuel] WVO damaging paint easy way to correct the problem

2006-09-13 Thread Derick Giorchino
] On Behalf Of John Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:51 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] WVO damaging paint easy way to correct the problem Hi, No matter how much cleaning I did after I spilled a little WVO on the car I ended up with a big, fat stain on the side

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread Joe Street
@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400 Luke, If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make excellent warm weather fuel

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread Mike Weaver
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then congelled again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks like black solids, then a layer of something white (also

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread Joe Street
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then congelled again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks like black solids

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread bob allen
luck w the WVO By the way, what do you get for a titration on it? Tom - Original Message - From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread Joe Street
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then congelled again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks like black solids, then a layer of something white (also about 5

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread bob allen
Message - From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then congelled again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-24 Thread Thomas Kelly
? Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Very funny Tom! Designer exhausts! You should patent that idea. Recently I was wondering if I could make biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-22 Thread Andres Secco
layer is not formed with virgin vegetable oil. ;-) Cheers - Original Message - From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO The waste veg oil (wvo)I collect has three different layers after

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-22 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
done! :-) Luke From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:33:35 -0400 Luke, So chicken fat it is. Maybe. Did you use bottom heat? as in a pot on the stove? If so

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I have a tank less hot water heater that I can easily adjust the temp from 100 to 176 F, I put the oil in a pete bottle, filled the sink with 176f water and set the bottle in it. I checked it after a few minutes and it was in the process of turning

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-22 Thread Bob Carr
for sure if it is usable or not. Regards, Bob - Original Message - From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-21 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400 Luke, If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make excellent warm weather fuel

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
- Original Message - From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Tom, I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then congelled again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer

[Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
The waste veg oil (wvo)I collect has three different layers after it settles. A clear (translucent) layer on top and a brown non-translucent layer - that doesn't want to filter - in the middle and then black solids on the bottom. My question is the middle brown layer. It seems - and I havent

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread doug swanson
I've found that if I leave it in the settling tank longer, it will settle out even more. Smaller water droplets seem to take longer to sink and separate, (or conglomerate with other droplets) when encased in their oil surroundings. I'd use solar if I wanted to heat and retrieve the oil from

Re: [Biofuel] WVO

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
: [Biofuel] WVO The waste veg oil (wvo)I collect has three different layers after it settles. A clear (translucent) layer on top and a brown non-translucent layer - that doesn't want to filter - in the middle and then black solids on the bottom. My question is the middle brown layer

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread Hakan Falk
Joe, In Israel you will see the same, but with efficient solar panels built together with an insulated storage. It is however an enormous difference in efficiency. The black cisterns have a very low efficiency and you can only collect some warm water at the end of sunny days. The main

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread Hakan Falk
grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread Joe Street
Do you have any information on IR absorption of common black materials, ie flat black paint types which are resonably good? I plan to do something with it one day but would like to make something myself of reasonable efficiency rather than buying a turnkey solution. Joe Hakan Falk wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread bob allen
Howdy Joe, don't stop with IR, you want to absorb all wavelengths- there is more energy available in the visible/UV than the IR. Any flat black material will absorb all wavelengths (not counting high energy stuff like gamma rays). what you need is a material which not only absorbs, but also

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread Joe Street
Really?  I was under the impression 65% of the incoming solar radiation was IR and NIR.  Well I was thinking of putting flat black paint on copper pipes and having a sun tracking parabolic mirror beneath them. I was just wondering if anyone had any data on flat black paint types as the last

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-28 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I do have some info on absorbance/emittance of various media, but not easily at hand. I'll try to look it up. What I recall is that flat black paint is about 80% absorbance, and also 80% emittance. Not sure about the difference between different types of black paint. The selective surfaces

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
? thats how the old folks used to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Pope" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coale

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the energy use of heating a bulk volume of oil to near water BP. Coalescing media comes to

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Pope" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation:

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Clark
: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the energy use of heating a bulk volume of oil to near water BP

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
6, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the energy use of heating a bulk volume of oil to near water BP. Coalescing media comes to

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Ryan Pope
@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:36:44 -0500 Hi Ryan, I live about 70 miles from Kaydon Filtration. I talked with them this morning and they told me that this filter will not work on vegetable oil. Sorry. Good thought though. Bill Clark

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the energy use of heating a bulk volume of oil to near water BP. Coalescing media comes to mind

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Pope" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate wa

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
the old folks used to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Pope" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Joe Street
Hakan Falk wrote: Zeke, Solar thermal hot water is the cheapest and most efficient solar use, I do not understand that the use is so low. This except Israel, where you can see solar for hot water on almost every house. . snip Ever been to Mexico? Joe

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Joe, Yes, but Mexico it is a bit larger and more people than Israel and in total they do not have the same density, but last time was around 15 years ago and Israel the last time was around 6 years ago, China 5 years and Brazil last time was only 2 years ago. Time goes very fast. Still, I

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Jason Katie
, whichever comes first and screen it out? thats how the old folks used to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my grandma was a kid. - Original Message - From: Ryan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: [Biofuel] WVO

Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Weaver
never had a freezer, they left buckets of apple beer on the porch in the winter. - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media Getting it really cold means

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