You know, while it may be true that Californians have practiced and
studied some good conservation principles, I also think David has a
point. Back when I was taking some hard look at America's overall
energy usage, home heating oil is a very significant part of that
usage. Sometimes the
Hi MM,
Look at,
http://california.energy.saving.nu/
especially,
http://energy.saving.nu/california/victim.shtml
and
http://peakdemand.energy.saving.nu/
http://fastfixes.energy.saving.nu/
and you will find some data.
It is quite interesting and you can see what I was pointing out
OK, its the least I can do. I'm amazed sometimes about how complicated this
invention process can be. And how much money it takes. As of today, I am
seemingly hours from light off, I think. You understand, I built one
conversion system to turn a Beckett burner into a Babington burner. That
My 2 cents worth sent to the biofuels list by mistake:
Fossil fuel users...
an evolutionary dead end
Ed
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 12:25 PM, murdoch wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:45:31 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
Suggestions at,
http://energy.saving.nu/stickers/
Hakan
You've
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:45:31 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
Suggestions at,
http://energy.saving.nu/stickers/
Hakan
You've been very industrious. I would suggest for the Californian one
you add the word Real (e.g. Real Californians Use Biofuel). I sort
of like the Supply and Demand Biofuels Now!
Mark,
When you raised the bubble-dry issue a few weeks back, I wasn't convinced
that the main action was necessarily water evaporation. I tend to store
samples of biodiesel in capped 2 litre Dr. Pepper style plastic bottles, and
had noticed that if an air space is left above the liquid, it
Tom, Mark,
For comparison, my glyc. burner is a converted natural gas water heater from
my brother's house. It started with one Babbington nozzle fashioned from a
soup-spoon, with air supplied from a 12 volt tyre-inflating compressor.
Enough ambient air is entrained by the atomising jet to
David T.
That's great, you are really progressing here. I've done some fuel
combination work, but I've got a lot more to do this spring. The two
Babington jets going together probably will work, but it sounds complicated
to me. I have one waste oil based flame onto a sloping heavy metal drip
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:14:02 +0100, you wrote:
Hi MM,
Look at,
http://california.energy.saving.nu/
California has about 12% of U.S. population (33 million out of 272
million as of 1999 Almanac Figures), not the nearly 20% that you
have in your statement at that top. Even accounting for
Cool!! Like Real Californians Eat x. I really like that
one. Thanks for the suggestion Murdoch!! Hey Hakan, you might also want
to include the SVO'rs out there, Real Californian's Use SVO or Real
Californian's Use WVO (acroynm's could be expanded).
James Slayden
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003,
Continuing in the overly dramatic subject line for this thread vein...
Well I went to weigh and then to dry and reweigh the samples I had, and
found another annoying and very odd thing.
Here's a recap:
a few weeks ago when I started experimenting with 'bubbledrying', I had
taken some freshly
Hi MM,
Look at,
http://california.energy.saving.nu/
especially,
http://energy.saving.nu/california/victim.shtml
and
http://peakdemand.energy.saving.nu/
http://fastfixes.energy.saving.nu/
and you will find some data.
It is quite interesting and you can see what I was pointing out
Permaculture is a design system, not a farming system. Which is not
to knock it. But,IMO, you'd do better to start with the work of
Howard and the founders of organic growing, or at least add it to
permaculture.
I think this is underrating Permaculture a bit. It IS a system, that can be
Published
http://energy.saving.nu/stickers/
Hakan
At 08:29 PM 1/25/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Fossil fuel users:
... an evolutionary dead end.
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuels list archives:
http://archive.nnytech.net/
Please do NOT
Permaculture is a design system, not a farming system. ..
The things I like most about Permaculture are...
- It is inspirational
- it's easy to enthuse people with the concept
I'm presently building a 'Gangamama Mandala' in my back garden -
100m2 feeding 5.
Find out all about it and view a
- Original Message -
From: girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
Like I said I haven't done this qualitatively before- so I don't know if
the amount of water sufficient to form haze in the fuel is a sufficient
mass of water for me to weigh on a .1g sensitivity scale. any ideas on
what
Mark - very interesting side issue - urban and peri urban agriculture.
Should food be grown in cities with high levels of air pollution that
precipitates onto the plantsor perhaps we should think also in
terms of growing fuel instead (mustard, sunflowers, etc.) in these
urban and periurban
Hi Craig
Keith,
Please do. I feel sorta badly about promoting the Elsbett when Ed and
Charlie are making such good kits, but the Elsbett is of a higher order
- truly something that allows Granny to drive your car (or her car) on
SVO - just tell her she can fuel up with dinodiesel if she runs
NeilUSA wrote:
Once WVO cools down, micro-organisms I understand set about the task of
consuming the oil turning it rancid in as little as a month.
It varies very widely. I've had some very over-cooked oil that lasted
more than a year, but I dewatered it first. I think that's the best
NeilUSA wrote:
According to the archives pertaining to the TDI-SVO controversy:
Is this in the archives? There are similar things in the archives,
but I think this is from here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html
The TDI-SVO controversy
Anyway...
***
Keith,
My hope is that others - Greasel, Ed at Neoteric, other as-yet-unknown
SVO kit makers - will come up with their own single-tank systems.
Elsbett makes a great product, but until they have a better
English-language website and much better phone and email tech support,
and way way better
I didn't mean to imply that just because I live in a city I wouldn't want
to grow food. I have done a lot of that in the city. It just so happens
that I now live in a particularly nasty area on the railroad tracks and
every time the trains go by (once every 15 minutes it seems) a huge cloud
Also, keep it in the dark. Light accelerates decomposition, I
understand.
Edward Beggs
Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Home of G3 SVO systems and VEG-Therm 12/24V vegoil heaters
http://www.biofuels.ca
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 10:06 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
NeilUSA wrote:
Once WVO cools
Steve,
You wrote:
We have fooled around with single tank solutions, but found them
unreliable
in cold usa climates. the two tank system gives the best of both
worlds.
biodiesel in the factory tank, and vegetable oil in the second, easy
to
install, tank.
Steve Spence
I agree that a
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:45:31 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
Suggestions at,
http://energy.saving.nu/stickers/
Hakan
You've been very industrious. I would suggest for the Californian one
you add the word Real (e.g. Real Californians Use Biofuel). I sort
of like the Supply and Demand Biofuels Now!
We have fooled around with single tank solutions, but found them unreliable
in cold usa climates. the two tank system gives the best of both worlds.
biodiesel in the factory tank, and vegetable oil in the second, easy to
install, tank.
Steve Spence
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:14:02 +0100, you wrote:
Hi MM,
Look at,
http://california.energy.saving.nu/
California has about 12% of U.S. population (33 million out of 272
million as of 1999 Almanac Figures), not the nearly 20% that you
have in your statement at that top. Even accounting for
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 10:06 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Craig
Keith,
Please do. I feel sorta badly about promoting the Elsbett when Ed
and
Charlie are making such good kits, but the Elsbett is of a higher
order
- truly something that allows Granny to drive your car (or
Or the banner Mark saw at the antiwar march in SF - Real Men don't Get
Gas. But it sorta leaves the women out. (But of course women don't get
gas anyway, as we all know.)
Craig
James Slayden wrote:
Cool!! Like Real Californians Eat x. I really like that
one. Thanks for the suggestion
MM,
Thank you, I corrected the percentage. I used the number
that somebody said, but did not check it sufficiently. You
are right and it fit also better with the other data, now when
I checked it. Maybe my population number included Canada
as North America, same mistake as when many talks about
Continuing in the overly dramatic subject line for this thread vein...
Well I went to weigh and then to dry and reweigh the samples I had, and
found another annoying and very odd thing.
Here's a recap:
a few weeks ago when I started experimenting with 'bubbledrying', I had
taken some freshly
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