Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Rexis Tree wrote:
M, change the white house roof top to solar panel is a
good idea.
President Carter put solar panels on the White House. Reagan
removed them when he moved in.
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If the heat spiral heat exchanger is set up properly at the base of the
sewer stack, the top portion of the exchanger will be hotter then the
bottom. You should see a 15 to 25 deg drop in the temp from top to bottom
depending on the temperature differential.
In our case the heat exchanger
Rexis Tree a écrit :
i recalled that in the journeytoforever website they did try washing
biodiesel with a soda bottle (1.5L), i guess that plastic is similar
to PVC plastic. So thats mean should be ok.
Hi,
May be OK but probably not PVC but PET
frantz
Plastic solar cells get efficiency boost
Scientists have come up with a low-cost process that
improves the performance of polymer-based photovoltaics.
Researchers in the US have found a simple way of
increasing the efficiency of polymer-based photovoltaics
(PVs) that could make harnessing
Hi Keith;
I got the following warning form symantec about a message I recieved
from you. Was this message in response to the email I sent last week
regarding the new biodiesel process?
Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Symantec AntiVirus found a virus in an attachment from [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Although my observations will offset in terms of net effects, a fifteen
minute shower is a really really long shower in my experience. A few
years ago I had students go out and calculate energy use for showers.
average length 3 to 4 minutes, temperature around 40 C, and flow rate
varied from
On 10/13/05, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not his fault, he is a mirror of the people who voted
for him. The law of smallest (read dumbest) common
denominator. This make George a genius among the
people who voted for him, more than half of the US
population. LOL
Not to pick
Well yes I guess you could say an increase in efficiency from 3 to 4.4 %
is almost a 50% increase. That IS dramatic but what is it ol' foghorn
leghorn used to say? .two half nothin's is a whole nuthin. LOL
Still vacumm deposited aluminum for a cathode is cheap and lends itself
nicely to
Hello Joe and all.
My antivirus AVG from Grisoft detected the same virus inside an attached
file with the name body.zip and it sended that message to a virus vault
were I already deleted. I noticed it took the biofuel list addresses.
I do not think the address is the real because virus tend to
A bit of research on this particular virus indicates that it will spoof
the sender's address, and the virus is more likely on a system that has
Keith's address in its address book.
doug swanson
Joe Street wrote:
Hi Keith;
I got the following warning form symantec about a message I
the plastic is quite different chemically. PVC- poly vinyl chloride is
an addition polymer (all carbon backbone) and a soda bottle is PET poly
ehtylene terphthalate, a condesation polymer.
all of the above says nothing however about resistance biodiesel or its
precursors... : )
biodiesel
Brett Wiewiora is trying to find someone who is making biodiesel in the
Pittsburgh area and willing to help him with the learning curve.
He can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Bob,
You mean people heating their water with electricity aren't using flow limiting shower heads. Why I'm shocked to hear this. You must be talking about people who live in the third world not the first. Whew, I was really worried there for a minute. But wait I'm confused, most people
Yeah I don't think the list sends out any attachments. This is a good thing.
Brian Rodgers
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Hi all
Well I am finally ready to try a mini test batch, yipee!
This is an excerpt from my morning newsletter. The names have been
changed to protect the innocent, hehe.
As I was leaving work I remembered that it was Thursday and if I was
to try my first batch of biodiesel this weekend I needed to
Hi all
Well I am finally ready to try a mini test batch, yipee!
This is an excerpt from my morning newsletter. The names have been
changed to protect the innocent, hehe.
As I was leaving work I remembered that it was Thursday and if I was
to try my first batch of biodiesel this weekend I needed to
David,
Whoever would dump their byproducts is a fool, most of the methanol can be
recovered, and the glycerine can be digested (see:
http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/MethaneDigesters/MD6.html )
and i'll bet you a dollar that you can use the white greasy junk from bad
batches as a
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read somewhere that pure lye is not white but sort of opaque and the white
lye is not pure and you need to use more. About 25% more. Does anyone have
any information on this?
I buy lye from a soap making shop and there is no marking on the
container.
Well, you know
I have the best results when I let my
blender run about 45 minutes. I think you get a better reaction that way.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Juan B
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005
3:08 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel]
Ken,
That is great, I was afraid that more than half were idiots,
but the good news is that it was only one quarter. No wonder
that Bush want to export this democracy. So democracy,
which is Greek for rule by the people, is now rule by a
quarter of the people. The American way of life is in
Mike,
I'll do my best to write up some
plans and explain the harder points. The best thing I can tell you is to start
looking up homemade turbine. Or Turbocharger engine. I am more of a tinker then
a planer. I bought a turbo from a local junkyard $25 bucks. I was told it
worked, but the
Fwd from the Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group.
... In conclusion, the GMO Panel considers that the information
available for oilseed rape Ms8, Rf3 and Ms8 x Rf3 addresses the
outstanding questions raised by the Member States and therefore the
placing on the market of Ms8, Rf3
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/12/international/africa/12memo.html?emc=eta1
- New York Times
A political bargain with American agriculture has formed the basis
for food aid over the past half century.
Poverty Memo
African Food for Africa's Starving Is Roadblocked in Congress
Eldson
Voter turnout is key. Unfourtunately, a large pergentage of those
turning out are the proverbial "angry white male (or person)" who wish
to preserve the unsustainable status quo. That and the fact that the
Democrats have been in disarray for years doesn't help.
I did hear an interesting
Ouch. But thanks for the laugh!
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read somewhere that pure lye is not white but sort of opaque and the white
lye is not pure and you need to use more. About 25% more. Does anyone have
any information on this?
I buy lye from a soap
A bit of research on this particular virus indicates that it will spoof
the sender's address, and the virus is more likely on a system that has
Keith's address in its address book.
doug swanson
Hi Doug and Joe
That's definitely the case Doug, it didn't come from me. This is a
Mac anyway, stony
Hello Joe and all.
My antivirus AVG from Grisoft detected the same virus inside an attached
file with the name body.zip and it sended that message to a virus vault
were I already deleted. I noticed it took the biofuel list addresses.
I do not think the address is the real because virus tend to use
Tom,
Do not worry, it must be other developed countries than US, this
because US is using more gasoline than water. Cannot be the
French either, since I saw some statistics that they only shower
once every two weeks and that was the immigrants, according
to a French guy I know. It is no sure
I work with chemicals in the lab and the NaOH (lye) that we use is in larger
pellets. Those pellets are not quite white (they are somewhat
clear/transluscent), however, lye from the soap companies is usually in
smaller pellets/flakes and should defintiely appear white. I got my last
batch from
Todd,
I don't think we are thinking about the same type of efficiency here.
I'm was thinking more in terms of production efficiency rather than the
energy efficiency you appear to be talking about.
Looking back at the original, it looks like I missed parts of it.My bad.
When Efficient and
M. Falk:
As a person with (minor) French ancestry, I am shocked and offended at
your suggestion that the French do not bathe regularly.
I challenge you to defend yourself in a duel of honor. Shampoo at
fifty yards, the first one to achieve a glossy sheen to be declared the
winner.
I name as
Sums it up in a nutshell.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Rexis Tree wrote:
M, change the white house roof top to solar panel is a
good idea.
President Carter put solar panels on the White House. Reagan
removed them when he moved
nodding in understanding,
I appreciate the explanation, and am looking forward to a bit more, I'd
be doing more tinkering myself but $$ are real tight a thome right now,
I just can't get the initial investment (as amall as it is) going at
the moment but someway to save even more money and energy
Hey Jason
It is actually a 2' square box that has a 6 tube with baffles in it.
The exhaust goes into the bottom left, then hits a flat wall where the
exhaust is directed up through some small plates tacked to either side to
help catch heat and slow down the air speed. The pipe runs right
I think oil like that is more trouble than it's worth, though I have
cracked it. I mixed it with better stuff then cracked it. Be sure you
get all the water out!
Derick Giorchino wrote:
I have used Berger kings wvo and it has always been clean and smells good
but it seems to solidify at much
Hakan Falk a écrit :
Tom,
Do not worry, it must be other developed countries than US, this
because US is using more gasoline than water. Cannot be the
French either, since I saw some statistics that they only shower
once every two weeks and that was the immigrants, according
to a French guy I
Hmmm. Interesting direction this thread is taking...
While we are talking about showers, why exactly is it assumed in the
US that everyone must take a shower every day. When in a dry
climate, not doing much physical work (like going to the office every
day) I get by with every other day fine.
Mike Weaver a écrit :
M. Falk:
As a person with (minor) French ancestry, I am shocked and offended at
your suggestion that the French do not bathe regularly.
I challenge you to defend yourself in a duel of honor. Shampoo at
fifty yards, the first one to achieve a glossy sheen to be
I've spent some time in the garden this week, pulling out the dead
and dying plant material, harvesting potatoes and collecting all my
organic material into a big pile. A friend of mine has offered to
indefinitely loan his garden shredder to me, as he doesn't use it
and the equipment
Bonjour M. Desprez:
As someone who can trace his family back to William the Conquerer (ok,
I didn't, but one of my cousins did and I did take the trouble to read
his book)
WE'RE probably related.
I hadn't though of the Scandinavian Weapons of Mass Disinfection.
However, don't forget that
I agree. Only on weeks where I do real work - splitting wood or such do
I take a shower daily. Mostly every other day is fine. This is not
always true in the Summer, though. I am on the East Coast.
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Hmmm. Interesting direction this thread is taking...
While we are
>From my (fairly limited) time in France the big difference I noticed
was the French use far less water. In one hotel there was a small tub
and bathing
spray, in another a small shower with an instant heater. I probably
used 1/4 the water that I would here, where most people keep a 60
gallon
Hi folks
Whilst on the subject of lye..I recently purchased a 3kg
container(hardware store), and my concern is the hard clump that I found
upon opening the container for the first time. I've used this lye
successfully in several 1 litre test batches, but I'm not so sure about
a
rant
What do you expect from an oil man puppet. It is pretty sad when
he is not even aware that grid-tied solar and net metering have been around for
a few years now.
On a 'positive' note...at least he sees a positive trend in his imagination.
Yes, it is disgusting the energy gluttony that
Looks like the bug's about to bite you! (as in opening doors to another
world...!) I've enjoyed this post, and can feel your excitement. My 3rd
full size (25 gallon) batch is washing quietly at this moment...
Another possible option of buying methanol at retail, but still at a
lower cost, If
I generally take a shower once a month whether I need it or not.
(in the summer of course, in the winter we can take snow baths every
day)
PS for all you foreigners. underwear can be recycled four times
(inside out, back and front) this is of course common sense to
Canadians but I am
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Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Um, they already exist, George
I had an interesting opportunity to go see some research and
I checked this quote, and it's word for word. Went off about
it to my office mate, who simple exclaimed He's talking about
the ability to detect the formation of a chalky powder woudl be hard. If
you grind the pearly pellets from chem lab you get a white powder or
granuals
the stuff from the hardware store will probably look white.
the most import comment ahs to do with them looking lie they are melting as
they
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Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Joe and all.
My antivirus AVG from Grisoft detected the same virus inside an attached
file with the name body.zip and it sended that message to a virus vault
were I already deleted. I noticed it took the biofuel list
:
http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/att
achments/20051014/db127131/body.obj
Best
Keith
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concerning virus
why don't you use linux for your e-mail and related stuf. For instance
try Knoppix or Linspire. I started my pc from cd-rom and in less than
10 minutes i got linux working, internetconnection, sound, e-mail,
browsers, editors, etc. Or have Linux dual booting on your pc if you
Hi Robert:
I've used red clover as a cover crop in the fall. It doesn't grow too
much, fixes a little nitrogen, and is relatively easy to turn over in the
spring. I have not tried using clover for an entire growing season but I
don't see why it wouldn't work. The red clover was suggested
i have a 99 dodge 2500. if you are wanting to convert to a B-type, you
might want to do some more research. the fuel injuector is
cooled/lubricated by excess fuel with a return line whereas the previous
year models were cooled/lubricated by the crank case oil. this is my delima
now that i
concerniong the virus problems: try linux. I started up my pc from
cd-rom with a live linux installation: No change on the HD is made. And
you have a working version of linux in 10 minutes. Meaning internet
worrking, browsers, e-mail clients an office program etc. You move out
of the
michael skinner wrote:
the ability to detect the formation of a chalky powder woudl be hard.
No, it's easy actually. If you're using pearls they just lose their
translucence and start looking chalky.
If you grind the pearly pellets from chem lab you get a white powder
or granuals
the stuff
At a store nearby there selling 100% per lye but its in liquid I thought lye
only was a solid. what would added for it to be liquid?
Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bobby Clark
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To:
Yeah, maybe he understands it more than we think, and he's just
frustrated about the complete lack of uniformity and perponderance of
red tape people in utility interconnection agreements...
On 10/14/05, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Zeke
I really like this list and its members, including the French
and Canadian French. LOL
It is fun with the sparks and the humor.
Hakan
At 20:52 14/10/2005, you wrote:
I generally take a shower once a month whether I need it or not.
(in the summer of course, in the winter we can take snow baths
!! What about us ugly Americans?
Hakan Falk wrote:
I really like this list and its members, including the French
and Canadian French. LOL
It is fun with the sparks and the humor.
Hakan
At 20:52 14/10/2005, you wrote:
I generally take a shower once a month whether I need it or
You'll get no argument from me on most of this - the crazy thing is
that the US could still enjoy an enviable standard of living WITH
energy saving.
A hybrid diesel would allow for most of the "American Way of Life" -
not that I am a huge fans of cars, but in this large country it would
be
He could take a walk a few blocks down from the whitehouse and see a
village of 18 solar houses this weekend.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/solar_decathlon/
These are all stand alone solar houses for the competition, because
PEPCO has no clue what a grid tied PV system is, and no desire to
On that topic
http://www.gridpoint.com/news/
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Yeah, maybe he understands it more than we think, and he's just
frustrated about the complete lack of uniformity and perponderance of
red tape people in utility interconnection agreements...
On 10/14/05, Chip Mefford [EMAIL
The power companies around here seem pretty anti-grid tie. I have BD
generator because the power goes off so often.
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
He could take a walk a few blocks down from the whitehouse and see a
village of 18 solar houses this weekend.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which stage do you think we're at by now, we backyard biofuels
homebrewing tinkers? For one thing we're brewing up millions and
millions of gallons of fuel all over the world, who cares about
manufacturers? Local vs central?
Hi everyone. I meant to start a new thread with my story but hit send
before I remembered, whoops.
On 10/14/05, des [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like the bug's about to bite you! (as in opening doors to another
world...!)
Yes I believe you are right. I think around here they call it, utro
Is there a way to turn excess glycerin into perfume?
That might save some energy too!
MikeHakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like this list and its members, including the Frenchand Canadian French. LOLIt is fun with the sparks and the humor.HakanAt 20:52 14/10/2005, you wrote:I
Doug Turner wrote:
Hi Robert:
I've used red clover as a cover crop in the fall. It doesn't grow too
much, fixes a little nitrogen, and is relatively easy to turn over in the
spring. I have not tried using clover for an entire growing season but I
don't see why it wouldn't work. The
Mike,
Ugly is your addition and I love Americans, the only thing
that I do not like is their foreign policies, energy policies.
and the political/economy corruption by the US corporations.
By the way, I also like the French. My daughter in law and
grandchildren are French.
Hakan
At 23:21
On 10/14/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree.Only on weeks where I do real work - splitting wood or such doI take a shower daily.Mostly every other day is fine.This is notalways true in the Summer, though.I am on the East Coast.
Northeast or Southeast? Or even worse, Deep South?
Hi Rafal,
I use Lab grade Lye that is in pellets not grains like Red Devil. It
dissolves slower and as a result the reaction producing the heat takes
longer. It makes Great Bio and seems to stay translucent longer (not
carbonated). It does not get hot like RD lye does. It takes more time
to
Hi John,
Thanks for the info, I have been out of town all week so I am late in my
reply, I will read all the great feed back here and get something
going. I never realized what a resource hog I was till I started
reading all the info here.
Thanks again,
Jim
John Hall wrote:
Jim,
There are
Felipe,
Here is the link in the archives that says what I have
done to my 2000 Dodge 4X4 (with 295 x 16 tires) to improve mileage and
performance: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg55293.html
. The mileages may be truly better (the numbers quotes were form the
Just a couple of questions.
How do people clean out their drums given that most
of them have engine oil in them when they are obtained. Does it affect the
BD.
And on the same note, I am going to purchase a 200L
drum of Methanol and I am going to break it down into 60 and 20L containers for
Folks,
I am looking for anyone in the Enumclaw, WA
area. I have a gentleman that would like to talk about making BioDiesel on a
larger scale than I make (just test batches, so far). If you can help, contact
me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thanks.
i hope alternative fuels are contributing to the weakening demand for
petro fuel
Bong 8^)
World oil prices fall on signs of weakening US demand
Posted: 6:01 AM | Oct. 15, 2005
http://money.inq7.net/breakingnews/view_breakingnews.php?=2005mon=10dd=15file=1
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