That's just gross. :( sustainable my arse.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Steve Spence wrote:
Smithfield to Convert Hog Waste Into Fuel
By REUTERS
HICAGO, Feb. 21 (Reuters) - Smithfield Foods Inc., the pork producer,
said today that it would build a $20 million site in Utah that would use
Len, is this something that you worked on?
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Len Walde wrote:
FYI, from Len
Sigma Energy Engineering, Inc.
Renewable Energy, Process Engineering
Serving Agriculture, Industry Commerce
through Symbiotic Recycling tm
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Here is
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/tue/business/news_1b25gas.html
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http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
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Does none of yours biodiesel producers use the super critical methanol
process whitout katalyst ?
It seems that this process is very cheaper in energy, even FFA are
transesterified to FAME.
A production of 1,000 liters / hour is not very spectacular and the
installation should cost about 75,000
Does anyone have statistics for the US as well?
Daniel
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From: Winny De Schryver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:52 PM
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Q: price for glycerine in EU?
Paulius,
Yes, prices are in
why is converting manure to methane gas gross? We used to do it my farming
days. It's healthier than spreading the liquid stuff on the fields. You
spread the dry stuff leftover and plow it under for fertilizer.
Steve Spence
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Brian,
Again, thanks for taking the time to post your
thoughts. I understand your points, and I agree with
most of them. I should tell you, that I am a
long-time resident of Washington State, and so I am
familiar with the political climate here, more or
less.
SNIP 2) transit agencies don't
Hello Winny, what kind of oil are you procesing? I«m working in
supercritical too. Have you tested tubular micro-reactors??
Best wishes,
Mauro Knudsen.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have statistics for the US as
Does none of yours biodiesel producers use the super critical methanol
process whitout katalyst ?
It seems that this process is very cheaper in energy, even FFA are
transesterified to FAME.
A production of 1,000 liters / hour is not very spectacular and the
installation should cost about 75,000
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From: waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:13:34 -
Subject: [Distillers] SS drums in the U.S.
Came across a site specializing in steel drums (including salvage
drums and barrels) which would be
Is it possible to carry out the transesterification reaction using
micro-organisms? Especially using certain microbes which produce the suitable
enzymes?
Kavitha.
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Tim Owens wrote:
To whom it may concern:
I am leaving this news group because it is anything but a news group about
biofuel.
That's up to you, but it is most certainly about biofuels. From a
couple of days ago:
At the moment there's a lot, much more than usual, of what you'd
call off-topic
Greetings:
I'm new to the list so please be gentle.
Huh?
I am interested in starting to make Bio diesel for my
2001 Chevy Pickup.
My question is this. What do you do with the waste
chemicals? IE: Lye and Ethynol?
Everything I've read so far does not mention this
little leftover.
Thanks.
Dave
Keith,
At 05:05 PM 2/25/2003 +0900, you wrote:
Tim Owens wrote:
To whom it may concern:
I am leaving this news group because it is anything but a news group about
biofuel.
snip
sniP
Anyway, nobody's forcing you to read anything. Messages have subject
lines, if you're not interested,
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:19, you wrote:
To whom it may concern:
I am leaving this news group because it is anything but a news group
about biofuel. I was hoping to learn a lot, but unfortunately it takes too
long to sort through the unrelated emails. Does anyone know of a good
discussion
hello to all. Just joined and am setting up to make my
own fuel. I have a question. What kind of pump is best
for retrieving the used cooking oil from the
containers out back of the restaurant ? I'm looking
at 12 volt vane pumps, gear pumps, engine powered
Trash pumps. WHAT are the rest of you
I am going to do a lot of snipping simply because it really does not
pertain
Robby Davenport wrote:
all containers in the US anyway ; are suposted to take 5 psi including55
drums but its an un- writed rule many containers can take more , but
without a real psi rating who knows , good
OK i am going to do a lot of snipping not to mess with the content but
rather just ask a question.
does any one know where a person can get SMALL diesels in the US for cheep?
Just image a veggie powered lawn mower!
Or put a small veggie diesel in the EV!
Wish i had more $$ i am going to
on the same though.. why not use the waist heat from a veggie diesel
co-generator for the heat source of this type of system.
david
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http://members.aon.at/solarfrost/main.html
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuels
As long as you care to stick your head in the sand you'll never find one,
nor realize that this group is about as good as it gets short of breaking
Biofuel down into individual sub-sets.
Switching lists will not make biofuel of any sort any less political, as
you would care to put it. It's your
No you just are a good party member
And what party might that be?
Why the communist party of course!... or the reformed socialist party, or
the un-reformed socialist party - anything but a card carrying, white,
anglo-saxxon, protestest, right-wing, conservative Republicrat.
(Of course,
You are right. I am getting good info. I'll just keep sorting through. : )
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:06 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking
Keith writes:
This is exactly why the US, the UK and the other Allies
formed the UN after WW2. It is a problem for the whole
world, not just Washington, and when the whole world
disagrees with Washington's proposed solution,
Washington should listen, rather than trying to railroad
the UN and
Don't lie Keith ... you just want me to complement you again!!
Dammit Curtis, you caught me out. I admit it, it's the only reason I
do it. LOL! I've got them all lined up on my mantlepiece. Well,
actually, I would have, but we don't have a mantlepiece. We don't
even have a fire. Well, we do
Hakan, let's not get into an argument of where spam comes from or who
responds to it, you'd be surprised.
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=inprogresstype=relay
More than half of spam comes from overseas, less than .1% of people
respond to spam.
Take the obligatory America bashing elsewhere.
---
Hi Ken
Keith writes:
This is exactly why the US, the UK and the other Allies
formed the UN after WW2. It is a problem for the whole
world, not just Washington, and when the whole world
disagrees with Washington's proposed solution,
Washington should listen, rather than trying to
Tim Owens wrote:
You are right. I am getting good info. I'll just keep sorting through. : )
Thanks.
Great Tim, glad you're staying.
Best wishes
Keith
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:06 AM
To:
hello to all. Just joined and am setting up to make my
own fuel. I have a question. What kind of pump is best
for retrieving the used cooking oil from the
containers out back of the restaurant ? I'm looking
at 12 volt vane pumps, gear pumps, engine powered
Trash pumps. WHAT are the rest of you
It seems like most houses are well enough insulated that
they only need cooling when the sun is shining brightly
but, refrigeration of food and even greenhouses could
benefit greatly from using waste heat to power this system
during periods of low direct sunlight.
kris
--- David Wood [EMAIL
Ken,
I am not sure that it is a good idea. Many Americans
would take it as an even larger offense. If Washington
lived now, I do not think that he would like to be that
associated with Bush and what is going on in the city
that have his name. Maybe we could start to call both
America, US and
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 22:54
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the
RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world.
To be honest, I would not call
If he was making his electricity with a small diesel the exhaust could
supply all his process heat.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:37 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Retrieving the gold...
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
who gives a rats ass about the presidents of Russia, China, France
and
Germany?
or the Bishops of Britain and the Pope? do they now set American
Policy?
I have never seen President Bush suggest coveting another's
Sorry Martin,
Because they use foreign domain names and servers for the mailings
does not mean that they are not US. Spamcop is a quite useless
organization (if you can call them that) and they are toothless
against the real mail Spam that we get. What I have seen of them is
that they can be
I am wondering if anyone knows of a supplier of methanol in southern
Nevada. The only supply I have found so far is Haycock Petroleum
and they get $3.18/gallon if you buy a 54 gallon drum. Any help for
a reasonably priced supply would be appreciated.
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Kris,
Thank you for the link, I wrote the following to them,
I have for a long time promoted the thought of using
the absorption method (solar driven) in smaller cooling
units for homes and offices. It exists on container ships
and therefore it could easily be applied for other purposes,
If
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 22:54
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the
RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world.
I wouldn't bank on it. I'd say they're
You are correct Hakan. 'Ol George WOULD be rather horrified at what
this good country he started had become. It has become overflowing with
Corruption ... Propaganda ... etc.
In fact, 'ol George would probably even be embarrassed of continuing to call
this country America. It's not the
I can't help think there will be more unscrupulous propaganda to come
as the US readies the National Security Strategy for a pre-emptive
strike force against Iraq and other parts of the world if necessary --
The War Behind Closed Doors - INTRODUCTION
2/20/2003
llkona wrote:
I am wondering if anyone knows of a supplier of methanol in southern
Nevada. The only supply I have found so far is Haycock Petroleum
and they get $3.18/gallon if you buy a 54 gallon drum. Any help for
a reasonably priced supply would be appreciated.
See:
Why is it that the only two choices I seem to be given in life are either to
be a Government Slave (Democrat) or a Corporate Slave (Republican).
What if I want neither?? Like maybe to be Free ... for instance??
Curtis
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I know there are quite a few people here either starting small
biofuels businesses in the US or planning to - hasn't anyone got any
advice for Curtis?
One thing you might try, Curtis, is to join Biofuels-biz and ask again there:
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Why is it that the only two choices I seem to be given in life are either to
be a Government Slave (Democrat) or a Corporate Slave (Republican).
What if I want neither?? Like maybe to be Free ... for instance??
No problem... only then people are going to tell you you're a lousy
pinko
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My concern is with a group of trucks and vans being demonized just
because
of their looks. Because of demonizing the standards are being
changed.
What is going to be changed? How many of you may remember Ford
motor
Company
Hi Greg
North Korean soldiers:
I wouldn't bank on it. I'd say they're able enough, not half-starved,
and that the great majority are true-believers.
While they many or all may be true-believers, it is due to the way they have
been treated by their own government.
Absolutely, yes. I didn't
-Original Message-
From: motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:00 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, CornFed (Randy) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as far as a I know 55 gallon drums arent expected to contain
pressure. That is probably why you cant find a spec for it. I
would
imagine that the ratings are more orientated to impact resistance
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:25
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the
RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world.
Agreed, it comes down to who makes
Curtis:
Scrounge, become very familiar with the process, and equipment needs.
Explain what you are planning to do, and discuss needs with friends,
relatives, coworkers. You probably be surprised at what will pop up. Keep
the group informed with your progress.
Find a part time sideline job
You got my attention on this one.
I was thinking of using PVC for a air feed line for my air compressor
system, most of the PVC is rated to 150 psi BUT if that is HYDROSTATIC
tested will it work for air? YOU all seem to imply their is something
different from air to HYDRO. Am i missing
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1511.htm
Nightmares for all. Plus, for further horrors, cogitate on what
such an event could conceivably mean to the freedom of the American
citizens.
Motie
Well, first of
yep, I will be a confusing issue, but a great marketing opportunity, just
like having an organic feedstock.
B100-V!!
James Slayden
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Martin Klingensmith wrote:
Fuel made from animal by-products raises an interesting issue for vegan
and vegetarians, does it not?
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/tue/business/news_1b25gas.html
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuels list archives:
Pumping coldish WVo with a dc pump is one of the most complicated
things I've found about this process. I just gave up and I use
something plastic as a pitcher to scoop the stuff. more recently I've
taken to using a 4 gallon bucket to do it (and have a bigger bucket
to then put the dirty
I recently learned that you could recycle woodash by using it to make lye soap
(liquid) Can anyone tell me of other practical uses for woodash?
Thanks
Doug Allbright
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Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Mark,
Yup, the old and practically free oil pump out of virtually any motor should
do a good job.
Mine is of unknown origin found in the corner of my friends scrap heap. When
opened, the rotors showed plenty of wear. However, for the purposes of pumping
random amounts of waste oil it
Just for the gallery, how long does it take your experienced oil diving to
gather 40gals with a pitcher? ;-)
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pumping coldish WVo with a dc pump is one of the most complicated
things I've found about this process. I just gave up
I have an '88 Nissan Pathfinder that I'd like to convert to diesel. Anybody
know of any info on sources for doing this or on engines suitable for use in
the US?
Perry
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:59 PM
That's called a Libertarian. Welcome to the ranks, brother.
Steve Spence
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From: csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
James,
Maybe I am starting to get old, but until around 35 years ago it was the
dominant method in refrigerators. It is also a very common in nature and if
I am not wrong it is to consider as a biogas, at least when I was young and
worked with horses. Concentrated it is dangerous, but not
http://www.marinefirefighting.com/Pages/Newsletters/Newsletter5.htm
Early refrigeration used ammonia (NH3) throughout the system. This
proved very hazardous whenever leaks developed in the refrigerated areas
where workers might enter. Ammonia vapors are irritating and prolonged
exposure and
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith writes:
This is exactly why the US, the UK and the other Allies
formed the UN after WW2. It is a problem for the whole
world, not just Washington, and when the whole world
disagrees with Washington's proposed
Yes, freon replaced ammonia and sulphurdioxide systems because of the
toxicity.
If I had an ammonia system it would be outdoors and the cooling loop would
be chilled water.
No ammonia would be able to leak inside the building.
I favor a bit more precision in the collection apparatus and using a
A danger that kills is if concentrated 1 whiff deadens the nose and the
smell is gone.
Then you think you are ok and you are not.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:04 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel]
Hello, new to group and havent made my first batch yet
but may be able to help on this subject. As far as the
equipment goes, on your way home from work drive
around back of or go in and talk to someone at a auto
repare shop. I have worked at a few and ALL of them
had barrels of some sort seting
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is it that the only two choices I seem to be given in life are
either to
be a Government Slave (Democrat) or a Corporate Slave (Republican).
What if I want neither?? Like maybe to be Free ... for instance??
Curtis
Don't get me wrong ... I appreciate you replying to my post. But (I guess
you don't know) ... I don't have internet access (ie, I can't click on any
links). Could you kindly email me (Off-list, of course) the text of the
article (if it isn't too much trouble ... that is). Sounds like an
Hakan Falk wrote:
Many Americans
would take it as an even larger offense.
I don't speak for all Americans, but I don't take offense. It's common
in English to refer to a nation's government by the name of its capital--it's
like a collective noun. We understand that when a news
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:13:34 -
Subject: [Distillers] SS drums in the U.S.
Came across a site specializing in steel drums (including salvage
drums and barrels) which would be
Around here, in Maryland, a company that supplies prefabricated steel
components uses a lot of paint, purchased in 55 gal drums, to spray a base
coat on thier steel components. They sell the barrels at nominal prices,
around $4 the last time I bought several. Then there is an apple cider
I recently learned that you could recycle woodash by using it to
make lye soap (liquid) Can anyone tell me of other practical uses
for woodash?
Thanks
Doug Allbright
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Hello Doug
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_ashlye.html
Lye from
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Doug Allbright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently learned that you could recycle woodash by using it to
make lye soap (liquid) Can anyone tell me of other practical uses for
woodash?
Thanks
Doug Allbright
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft Certified Systems
I just bought an overrun stainless barrell from skolnik. The cost of
this new overrun we $225.00. Stainless rocks. No rust and that
works well for fungi. When I called about 2 months ago they had like
60 of them in stock. Worth a shot for a good new barrel cheap.
fred
--- In
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Motie:
My Old snow plowing F-150 is still holding, but my concern was
replaying
the past. There has been a demonizing of SUV's. Somehow true
work trucks
and vans are getting thrown in with fancy luxury toys.
Dear Robert,
I took this with Washington or Bushington as a joke with
a bit seriousness in it. After all, it is not American bashing
that we do when we foreigners are critic it is the policies.
We suffer in Europe from the US policies, because of
spill over effects and the influence US have.
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me wrong ... I appreciate you replying to my post. But
(I guess
you don't know) ... I don't have internet access (ie, I
can't click on any
links). Could you kindly email me (Off-list, of course) the text
of the
Uh how do you do that?
Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com
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From: Doug Allbright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Recycling Woodash
I recently learned that you could recycle
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me wrong ... I appreciate you replying to my post. But
(I guess
you don't know) ... I don't have internet access (ie, I
can't click on any
links). Could you kindly email me (Off-list, of course) the text
of the
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