Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread ROY Washbish
I wash with water and dry them with a squirrel cage blower. I open both ports, place the blower over one of them and let her go. My barrels come from a car wash so I only have to deal with concentrated soap. I hope this helps Roy Washbish "Purbo J. Wignjosajono" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Irwin
Quick question. Can the animals just be earthworms or are rumanants required? Tom Irwin From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:39:00 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farmingGreetings KenThat

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Bruno M.
Yes Purbo, even on a professional level, but ... if you like specific tricks and tips, you need to tell us what was in it before. Washing a soap barrel asks for other means than an oil barrel. grts Bruno M. At 07:24 01/12/2005, Purbo wrote: Dear All,

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
It does. Thanks, Roy. PJW - Original Message - From: ROY Washbish To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing I wash with water and dry them with a squirrel cage blower. I open

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
It contained a water treatment called Aquatreat 602 N. When I browsed the internet, it consists NaCL and a polymer but I am not sure what kind of polymer it was. PJW - Original Message - From: Bruno M. To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01,

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I don't know quite how this relates, but when we were making natural plasters for a strawbale I was working on near here, we used a small amount of llama manure in the adhesion coat that went on any wood or plasterboard that was going to be plastered (very little metal lath used). It held very

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Call whoever sells it and ask for the MSDS sheet. Purbo J. Wignjosajono wrote: I am asuming that it is not a dangerous substance. I hope my assumption is correct. PJW - Original Message - *From:* Purbo J. Wignjosajono mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:*

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Most of those barrels come from car washes, so waterever is in side has to water soluable. I've washed a number of them. I used Castille soap and a hose, then rolled/shook w/ Isopropyl alcohol, but the last part is because I have a lot of it. I've made quite a bit of BD using them. So far

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
I am asuming that it is not a dangerous substance. I hope my assumption is correct. PJW - Original Message - From: Purbo J. Wignjosajono To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

[Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
*ALERT UPDATE: EPA PROPOSED RULE ALLOWS CHEMICAL AND PESTICIDE TESTING ON KIDS * Thanks to everyone who responded to the OCA Alert in the last issue of Organic Bytes. So far, the EPA has been deluged with over 20,000 comments from OCA supporters demanding changes in the EPA's controversial

Re: [Biofuel] Household electricity consumption questions, remarks, and theorizing.

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
You're probably right. This is really my first complete system and it's mostly designed to be cheap. I looked into AGM and solar designed batteries but balked at the cost. No one sells them locally that I could find and shipping was a lot of $$. I've noticed Costco is now selling some new

Re: [Biofuel] Radioactive Leaks at Indian Point

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Oh yes but don't you know Mike, that 'nukular' is the answer to our energy problems? I have seen ads on the tube promoting it lately. Nukular is the key to allowing us to go on with unsustainable ideals and therefore it must be done! As if that's not enough Scientific American ran a story a

Re: [Biofuel] Household electricity consumption questions, remarks, and theorizing.

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Well the SI system (I don't know why we call it metric) has water weighing 1 gram per cubic cm (cc) and a liter happens to be 1000 cc therefore weighing a Kg. See how easy it is! Anyways something wierd is going on with the maths because these examples do not agree in the slightest. Joe Kirk

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Pysch. bob allen wrote: Jason and Katie wrote: i dont give a fuzzy flying fuck about taxes, yeah, you and leona 'taxes are for little people helmsley if they want to stop me and test my fuel for dyes, ill spend my time in the can, and get right back to it when i get home.

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Why not just add some of the dye yourself ..doh! Mike Weaver wrote: You guys DO know I work for the Treasury Dept.? bob allen wrote: Jason and Katie wrote: i dont give a fuzzy flying fuck about taxes, yeah, you and leona 'taxes are

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
You guys DO know I work for the Treasury Dept.? bob allen wrote: Jason and Katie wrote: i dont give a fuzzy flying fuck about taxes, yeah, you and leona 'taxes are for little people helmsley if they want to stop me and test my fuel for dyes, ill spend my time in the can,

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Redler
Mike,Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've hadfriends who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if it's really true.After doing some of my own research I came across somethingat www.commondreams.org. You may have already seen it.EPA

[Biofuel] Methanol suppliers

2005-12-01 Thread Chris May
Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make BD but after getting some methanol from a local model airplane shop, he told me that his supplier has told him he can no longer get him the stuff since apparently the british government have outlawed methanol being sold a seperate item so 95% or

Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Luich
Google: http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Product.jsp?REG_NR=0319111DIST_NR=039866 Manufacturer site: http://www.alcochemical.com/products-markets/combo/water/APPdithio.asp Aquatreat dnm-9 pdf: http://www.alcochemical.com/products-markets/PDF/aquatreat_DNM-9.pdf Storage and handling:

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread David Miller
Joe Street wrote: Why not just add some of the dye yourself ..doh! Because here in the states they put the dye in the untaxed fuel (HHO, K1), not in the stuff that's taxed. So adding dye would be a way of saying that you didn't pay taxes on fuel that you actually had. --- David

[Biofuel] seperating Glycerine

2005-12-01 Thread john owens
Hi,I did couple of tests on glycerin separation with the titration methodon JTF with different results.Test One;250ml byproduct10ml phosphoricshacked vigorouslyThere was separation with 3 layers about 60/30/10 within about 15 minutes. FFa Glycerin and fluffy white sodium phosphateTest two;250ml

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Mike; Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad taste) or an urban legend right? You can't be serious about this. Joe Michael Redler wrote: Mike, Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've hadfriends who are non-political, asking me if

Re: [Biofuel] hello (VIRUS)

2005-12-01 Thread ROY Washbish
Here is what I got when I tried to open the attachment Virus "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" found. Roy Washbish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are your banks documents.___Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel pick-ups in Canada

2005-12-01 Thread Stanley baer
I have the old 1.9l turbo out of 94 Jetta. If I had more time I would install a boost gauge and an exhust temperature sensor so that I could safely increase the boost and the fuel. The truck is a complete beater (no exhust past the cab, lots of rust, leaks through the windshield etc.), I

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol

2005-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Peter Hi Keith and All ; I had a bug infestation eating new leaves on some trees I was growing. The only thing I had handy was some 85% methanol. I used a hand pump spray bottle and sprayed it on, and the plants loved it, the bugs all died and haven't come back yet. Interesting. With 85%

Re: [Biofuel] exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally

2005-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
'Lo Marilyn, Joe Thanks for the correction, Joe. I will be more careful from now on to be sure who I am quoting. I think it's mostly Outhouse Express that does it, it defaults to saying that the person whose message you're replying to wrote it, even if it's a url and a news article someone

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Oh I thought from the previous post it meant that taxed fuel is dyed. So then on a spot inspection how is anyone to know if you are using taxed fuel or home brew anyways? (assuming it is not B100 which could be identified by smell alone) Why worry about it then? Joe David Miller wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Quick question. Can the animals just be earthworms or are rumanants required? Tom Irwin Hello Tom I spent 20 years trying to get earthworms to stand in for a cow, and failed. And I really hated the milk! Sorry, just kidding... (But I've eaten wormburger, very good!) Well, okay, it would

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enough protection?

2005-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Better to be over-cautious than under-cautious. I know what you're saying Mike, but I don't agree. Maybe you wouldn't either if you saw all the emails I've had from people shying away from brewing biodiesel because of all those dreadful chemicals. Maybe if the playing field was level, without

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol industry popping -was: California Ethanol Alcohol Transportation Fuels

2005-12-01 Thread MH
After some digging in the Biofuel archives - [Biofuel] US California Ethanol 29 Sep 2004 ETHANOL As a Transportation Fuel In California http://www.energy.ca.gov/ethanol/index.html As of January 1, 2004, California completed a transition from methyl tertiary butyl-ether (MTBE) to

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Redler
...but wait, there's more!The list of people in the administration who are threatening the health and welfare ofpeoplein and out of the country is proving to be disturbing.Stephen Johnsonhttp://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htmJohnNegroponte

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Thomas Kelly
Am I wrong? There is currently no federal tax on biodiesel made for personal use in the US. Biodiesel sold at the 400 or so retail outlets in the US is taxed, but not dyed. There is currently no way to tell if the biodiesel in a car is homebrewed or was purchased from a retail outlet.

[Biofuel] Equipment questions

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Looks like my immersion heater went south last night so I need to replace it. It was the stock 110 v 1500 watt unit that came with my 8 gallon hot water tank. I understand that some folks are using stainless steel units. Also I understand that if I install a 220 v unit and run it on 110v I

Re: [Biofuel] exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Well I'm using Mozzilla not outlook and there are settings for those parameters as well as html etc. Too bad you can't configure it to be sensitive to the mail folder otherwise your only option is to keep changing preferences all the time. Anyways I hope the 'other superpower" will

Re: [Biofuel] Equipment questions

2005-12-01 Thread ROY Washbish
Joe These people claim S/S elements http://www.htproducts.com/literature/lp-13.pdfLook here also. They say "Lower stainless steel heating element" http://www.myrec.coop/productsandservices/waterheaterreplacement.cfmI found none over the counter so you may do best by going to a

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
No. It's true, sad to say. Look it up. The spirit of the Tuskegee experiments lives on today. If you haven't already done so please learn more and send an instant letter to the EPA here (public comment period expires Dec.12) http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm Joe Street wrote: Mike;

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
There's off-road and on-road diesel here in the US Joe Street wrote: Oh I thought from the previous post it meant that taxed fuel is dyed. So then on a spot inspection how is anyone to know if you are using taxed fuel or home brew anyways? (assuming it is not B100 which could be

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Freedom hater. You're just helping the terrorist. Besides, all this doesn't really matter, what matters is GAY MARRIAGE! No, wait. I meant what really matters is, uh, the Liberals want to ban prayer in schools! So if you don't vote for the Republican party, you're voting God out of your

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Fred Finch
Actually we want to ban Christmas!! No more use of the words Merry Christmas! And sex!! Lots of sex!! And everywhere... Whoops, there is that little disorderly personality problem creeping up again!! Sorry about that, fred On 12/1/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freedom

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enough protection?

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Hi Keith, You're probably right. I just have the fear that someone will kill/blind/maim themselves making BD and it'll be seized on by the forces of darkness. If training were available, or we could setp an serious non-profit (that is NOT the National Biodiesel Board) and do training, like

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel pick-ups in Canada

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Jack up the motor and drive a new truck under it! I found a bunch of parts for TDI/Toyota swap once on the web Stanley baer wrote: I have the old 1.9l turbo out of 94 Jetta. If I had more time I would install a boost gauge and an exhust temperature sensor so that I could safely increase the

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel pick-ups in Canada

2005-12-01 Thread Joe Street
Mike are you listed on www.stealthtdi.com ?? Joe Mike Weaver wrote: Jack up the motor and drive a new truck under it! I found a bunch of parts for TDI/Toyota swap once on the web Stanley baer wrote: I have the old 1.9l turbo out of 94 Jetta. If I had more time I would

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread dermot
Hi Marilyn, The book you mention, The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Thomkins and Christopher Bird, was a bestseller over 20 years ago. It made all sorts of outlandish claims which were based on the scientific work of a Dr. Cleve Backster. It turns out that Backster was not in fact a scientist

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread dermot
Hi Keith, I'd like to address some of the points you raised in your reply to me on Oct 2nd. Before we start it may be useful to stress the views we probably have in common and hopefully that the rest of the list have in common as well. 1. Modern intensive farming is unsustainable and is

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel pick-ups in Canada

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
No, I lurk and have an inactive ID. Joe Street wrote: Mike are you listed on www.stealthtdi.com ?? Joe Mike Weaver wrote: Jack up the motor and drive a new truck under it! I found a bunch of parts for TDI/Toyota swap once on the web Stanley baer wrote: I have the old 1.9l turbo

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
Darn. I thought I really had something going with that cute lil sweetpea plant. dermot wrote: Hi Marilyn, The book you mention, The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Thomkins and Christopher Bird, was a bestseller over 20 years ago. It made all sorts of outlandish claims which were based on the

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Weaver
See what I mean? Liberal! Liberal! The scary thing is that it works, though. Every time. Let's see... LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT X-MAS. My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ,

Re: [Biofuel] hello (VIRUS)

2005-12-01 Thread Jason and Katie
all that means is someone with midori's address in their computer has a virus. i havent had any trouble with viruses, but i scan my comp twice a day, i guess im sort of a "germophobe" ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] [OT] Diebold problems in NC

2005-12-01 Thread David Miller
For anyone interested in the veracity of our elections, this slashdot discussion is very troubling: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/29/2024208.shtml?tid=103tid=123tid=219 There's reference in the article to what statistically looks like fraud here:

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel pick-ups in Canada

2005-12-01 Thread felixocat
Happy day Steve! A neighbor has a full-size (dodge cummins I believe)one for sale... would you like me to get more info on it? Peace Good luck! Felix P.S. and I have two diesel mercedes for sale, should you be interested... ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-01 Thread David Miller
Joe Street wrote: Oh I thought from the previous post it meant that taxed fuel is dyed. So then on a spot inspection how is anyone to know if you are using taxed fuel or home brew anyways? (assuming it is not B100 which could be identified by smell alone) Why worry about it then? I

Re: [Biofuel] seperating Glycerine

2005-12-01 Thread Bioclaire Nederland
I hope I can give you an explaination in english, because I am from Holland : Youstart with the amount of NaOH you used to make your batch of BD. For example 5 kg for 800 liters of BD. So you use 5 kg NaOH, which you will all find back in the bottom layer residue. 1 mole of NaOH weighs 23 +

[Biofuel] FDA approves injecting ID chips in patients-Wider Implications Discussed

2005-12-01 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Forward from another list. Not that it's new news, but I thought this was more in-depth. At this point, I don't believe I'm one who has been micro chipped, but I found the link to how to dis-able a microchip to be especially interesting. I believe my ability to escape being micro-chipped has

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers

2005-12-01 Thread Robert Carr
Hi Chris, what sort of quantities are you looking for? For 25L plus, try Performance chemicals Ltd. Prices are good but carriage charges are very high. For less than 25L, you can have some of mine at cost if you can collect from Peterborough. Hope this helps Rgds Bob - Original Message -

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-01 Thread Greg and April
In an obscure way, I am all ready there. A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever suspects that I am making BioDiesel, he will make sure that one way or another will I end up in court ( legal or civil ). I'm not totaly sure of what the issue is, but, near as I can

[Biofuel] Biodiesel as a wood stain

2005-12-01 Thread JJJN
Hello all, I just did some testing of biodiesel as a wood stain. I used oak as the base wood and applied a coat of Bio. The color was as pretty as can be if you like natural wood with out shadowing enhancements deep in the pore structure. It is a deep penetrator as compared to other stains.

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel as a wood stain

2005-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Hm. I've heard of people down in Ecuador perserving bamboo by painting it with diesel -- which we all recoiled at due to the nastyness of it. Using biodiesel sounds better -- I wonder how it will stand up, considering biodiesel is biodegradable? But then again so is tallow, beeswax, etc,

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-01 Thread Chris
Greg, Do people heat with fuel oil where you are? If so, that's not Biodiesel being stored, it's fuel oil. They have got to allow tanks of that. (Assuming people heat with oil where you are.) Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-01 Thread fresheggs141
it's only biodiesel if you call it biodiesel. i would call it a biodegradable degreaser, cooking oil,cleaning fluid ,or yellow stuff. In an obscure way, I am all ready there. A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever suspects that I am making BioDiesel, he

Re: [Biofuel] seperating Glycerine mistake !

2005-12-01 Thread Bioclaire Nederland
I wrote : In grams : ((3x1)+16+64)+(3x40) -- ((3x23)+16+64) + (3x18) - 203 = 203 So the reaction is equal now. That means you need one mole of H3PO4 + 3 moles of NaOH to react completely and split your residue. As you will understand now, I hope, you need 98 grams of H3PO4 for

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Hmmm. Remind me never to come to your town, as my truck has an 18.5 gallon fuel tank filled with biodiesel/diesel. If I parked in your driveway, It'd be illegal. On 12/1/05, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, Do people heat with fuel oil where you are? If so, that's not Biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Dermot Hi Keith, I'd like to address some of the points you raised in your reply to me on Oct 2nd. Before we start it may be useful to stress the views we probably have in common and hopefully that the rest of the list have in common as well. 1. Modern intensive farming is unsustainable

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-01 Thread Kenji James Fuse
Hey Greg, Can't you put your biodiesel in a furnace tank and call it home heating oil? That should get around that arcane law. Too bad about your neighbour, tho'... Kenji Fuse ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org