[Tagging] Where to update ID editor "templates" ?

2019-01-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, searched the wiki for half an hour but couldn't find how these templates work or how I could edit them : https://i.postimg.cc/L4LTvySh/harley1.png The brand according to wikipedia and wikidata is correct, but the OSM brand= -tag got a typo (missing hyphen) https://i.postimg.cc/zGXFz8gR/ha

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X- Sérgio V. svolk2 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 4 15:59:48 UTC 2019 As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice *Don't remove tags that you d

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X- Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org Fri Jan 4 12:29:34 UTC 2019 Hi, I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion & consideration, but: On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > So which ACTION

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Forgot to mention : " it follows what `service:bicycle:*` does." is not true. And if you introduce a new system, you should also explain the namespace structure. And not just create a hard to find "notice" which isn't linked to from the affected existing tags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ke

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X-- Bryan Housel bhousel at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 04:39:03 UTC 2019We discussed it here on this list last year. You started the thread even, so you can’t pretend like you "just realized” it. I even asked people to update the wiki. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipe

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-02 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, just realized there's a "great" new feature in ID editor, lots of senseless service tags in this format : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=service%3Avehicle%3A Seems to be over a year ago that someone decided to avoid conflicts between the "street" and the "car" services : https

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

2018-09-22 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
You just forgot to mention the table would solve this :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Default_speed_limits#The_table And there should be a link to it on these pages : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Speed_limits#Country_code.2Fcategory_conversion_table https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

2018-09-22 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, I think this should be discussed here (centrally) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup#amenity.3D.2A_vs._emergency.3D.2A Generally I don't understand why the parameters can't be "mixed" (a police station is a police station, whether for emergency or not

[Tagging] namespace for shop subtags - genaral format

2018-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
itete Nachricht Betreff:Re: [Tagging] horse rental Datum: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:18:47 +0200 Von:Thilo Haug OSM Antwort an: th...@gmx.de Organisation: OSM An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Such as in the bicycle shop example ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dbicycle#

Re: [Tagging] horse rental

2018-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
g people express the details with an easy "grammar" / "subkeys"). Am 03.09.2018 um 15:49 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > 2018-09-03 15:18 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug OSM <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > The principle should be described in general (not only for ren

Re: [Tagging] horse rental

2018-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
r (to distinguish it from which other key "without service" ?) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dbicycle#Additional_keys Cheers, Thilo Am 03.09.2018 um 12:19 schrieb Hufkratzer: > On 2.9.2018 22:06 Thilo Haug OSM wrote: >> {...] >> The current namespace art

Re: [Tagging] horse rental

2018-09-02 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi, I don't have a general preference about the format, but I think it should be possible to express several things to rent (buy/repair etc.) and it should be easily be possible to filter for all these items (regardless whether it's a shop/hotel/farm). So the format should be flexible enough to a

Re: [Tagging] horse rental

2018-09-01 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
And what if a touristic item (farm, hotel, shop...) offers several things to rent ? Let's say horses, bicycles, jetski ? Am 01.09.2018 um 16:25 schrieb Hufkratzer: > On 1.9.2018 02:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 at 09:03, Hufkratzer > > wrote: >

[Tagging] transport=* -key

2018-08-30 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, what is the meaning of the transport=* -key ?  I couldn't figure it out because it's often on buildings (possibly "reachability" ?) There's a total of 4 013 usages, but no wiki description : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/transport

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 105, Issue 26

2018-06-09 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
I think what Mark wanted to express is more about some general guidelines which could be established. The  tagging systems are very inconsistent, just have a look at the different "service" syntax (namespaces) of a car vs. bicycle vs. motorcycle shop (and none for others). There could be a system

Re: [Tagging] Removing helpful information in wiki pages

2018-05-12 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi, IMHO the picture helps understand the process of starting and landing, as not everyone heard about the recent development. I thought this would be helpful to get an overview at a glance. (talking about the spacex schematic picture, not the " long exposure" one, which should only show the "real

[Tagging] Removing helpful information in wiki pages

2018-05-11 Thread Thilo Haug
tion for this. It simply doesn't make sense to discuss each and every step, then the OSM development would soon die (or be replaced by another community project). If there were any reason exept his personal one, there would be a lot of work to do in the wiki. Cheers, Thilo Am 11.05.2018 um

Re: [Tagging] service:vehicle: prefix

2018-05-11 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, instead of discussing everything from scratch, let's create a general guideline for shop suffixes. There has already been a former short dicussion with some nice examples, but no productive outcome : General namespace (syntax) for shops : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/taggi

Re: [Tagging] service:vehicle: prefix

2018-05-06 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Key:service:bicycle:repair >> >> >> >> On 06/05/18 13:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> As part of shop=car_repair >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar_repair >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Graeme

Re: [Tagging] tagging LPG only station

2018-05-06 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
fuel:diesel=no fuel:octane_91=no fuel:octane_95=no fuel:octane_98=no fuel:e10=no Am 06.05.2018 um 18:52 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > How to tag fuel station with only LPG fuel? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel and > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:fue

[Tagging] service:vehicle: prefix

2018-05-05 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, what is the service:vehicle: prefix good for, and where is it documented ? (1 223 occurrences) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/service%3Avehicle%3Acar_repair#overview Cheers. Thilo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available musical instruments

2018-04-30 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
perhaps musical_instrument:usage= ? Am 30.04.2018 um 11:22 schrieb Marc Gemis: > Besides the arguments from Martin, > > how do you differentiate the "rental" in a bar, where you can only > play on the instrument, and not take it away from the room/building > from a real rental company that deliv

Re: [Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available musical instruments

2018-04-29 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, i think that subtags are necessary for all types of shops but may be the same for every (non-food) type of shop, as all of them usually offer the same (besides sales), so the following may apply : musical_instrument:sales=* musical_instrument:rental=* musical_instrument:repair=* musica

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
An example, good luck : 56 TSKM, 39 Languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Togo 41 TSKM, 4 languages : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland (Germany : 357 TSKM) Am 18.04.2018 um 21:49 schrieb Vao Matua: > I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this.  > Ther

Re: [Tagging] Tag:shop=shotball

2018-03-08 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi, there's already https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dweapons How about a subtag weapon:type=* The corresponding sport is here : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dshooting Cheers, Thilo Am 08.03.2018 um 13:00 schrieb Александр Львов: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-03-07 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
I agree with those statements : What they sell (e.g. clothes, groceries, only in bulk packaging) or if access is restricted (specific times, only certain group of people) are separate concerns *and should be tagged separately*. Am 06.03.2018 um 18:55 schrieb Paul Allen: We already make a distinct

[Tagging] "service" tags in general (for shops)

2018-02-24 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, instead of debating every single shop (details), I'm in favor of using a name scheme which applies to all (kind "grammar" for it). In the context of the printer_ink shop discussion I stumbled on the "service" tags of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcopyshop IMHO service

Re: [Tagging] Shops that sell printer ink cartridges

2018-02-24 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
I didn't get the point of this comment, do you got an example ? Am 24.02.2018 um 00:51 schrieb marc marc: > Listing all possible values in shop=* means that each tool > must provide a sorting by category if it wants to organize > the data and make life harder for the majority of shop that > have m

Re: [Tagging] Shops that sell printer ink cartridges

2018-02-23 Thread Thilo Haug
IMHO there are no shops selling BUT printer ink, so a subtag might be more useful : printer:ink=sales printer:ink=refill printer:repair=yes printer:sales=yes and so on... Mit AquaMail Android http://www.aqua-mail.com gesendet Am 23. Februar 2018 13:08:59 schrieb Fredrik : I came across s

Re: [Tagging] Cycling "service area"

2018-02-17 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi Volker, the way I understand the current syntax, underscore is more for spaces (in terms) and colon for namespaces (to separate the "subcategory"). So I'd use vehicle:type=* rather than vehicle_type=* (leaves room for vehicle:anythingelse=*) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace Cheer

Re: [Tagging] Not mapping personal preferences and details

2018-02-05 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, did I miss the "consensus with the community, after long and detailed discussions" here ? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-October/033760.html There are two guys which appear to me like religios bigot on an Inquisition, but maybe the definitions in the wiki are just

[Tagging] lunch_specials or lunch:specials ?

2017-12-31 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, I stumbled on a bakery which serves warm meals for lunch which is quite unusual (whereas it's common for butchers in Germany) http://www.schmidbeck.de/aktuelles.html There are currently 5 occurrences of lunch_specials on taginfo : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=lunch_specia

Re: [Tagging] shop - clothing_repair

2017-12-16 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Maybe a namespace ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace I think this statement isn't true : " It's impossible to cover all types of shops."' further, it's mentioned : "If you discover new shop types, you may invent your own values" I think this should be standardized, similar namespaces m

[Tagging] Vandalism ?

2017-12-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Was there any consensus about this topic ? 8X--- Gîtes les terres noires. (525407874) OSM data: remove 12 occurrences of 'proprietor:motorcyclist' after discussion on the Tagging list that OSM should not map personal preferences, and is not a veh

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, here it's defined as : "A set of rooms for living in, typically on two storeys of a larger building and having a separate entrance." https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/maisonette HTH Am 02.12.2017 um 23:21 schrieb Warin: > On 03-Dec-17 09:09 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] passage only on low tide

2017-11-04 Thread Thilo Haug
__ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Thilo Haug Bismarckstr.37 72764 Reutlingen Mobil: +49 177 3185856 Festnetz : +49 7121 3826414 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] objectivity

2017-10-29 Thread Thilo Haug
Regarding the "objectivity in the tag definition " there's still a lot of work to do in the wiki. What defines a sport shop versus an outdoor shop, for example ? IMHO only a number of values may define something 'objective'. Recently, there's been a discussion about landing strips for airplanes.

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
2 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > 2017-10-03 11:34 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not > deleted. > > > > If everybody creates feature pages for his personal

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug
Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. In case anyone would have improvement suggestions they are certainly appreciated. Am Montag, 2. Oktober 2017 23:20:41 CEST schrieb marc marc : Hello, Le 02. 10. 17 à 13:21, Michael Reichert a écrit : What are your opin

Re: [Tagging] How do you map shops that consider themselves multiple things?

2017-09-12 Thread Thilo Haug
That's why I proposed this : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop_subtags Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017 16:18:59 CEST schrieb Marcos Oliveira : There are places around me that plubicize have bakery and confectionaries services and in all of them you could also consider

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=* subtags

2017-09-10 Thread Thilo Haug
ptember 2017 15:55:21 BST, Thilo Haug wrote: > > I assume this would be a > > shop=sports > darts:sales=yes > darts:parts=yes (from sport=darts) > electronics:sales=yes > electronics:type=television ?(from shop=elec

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=* subtags

2017-09-09 Thread Thilo Haug
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Ddarts Am 09.09.2017 um 16:31 schrieb Andy Townsend: > On 09/09/2017 15:05, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: >> >> Thanks for the really exotic examples, >> > > Not quite as exotic as those, but I'm surprised that no-one's > mentioned Borland

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=* subtags

2017-09-09 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Thanks for the really exotic examples, I'd say this is : optician also selling delicatessen shop=optician deli:sales=yes deli:type=? --- bookshop in Paris, whose best known feature is the bánh mì sandwiches shop=books fast_food:sales=yes cuisine=sandwich --- sexshop f

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, I think in such a case it would be seen as several shops (like shops within a mall). It's not totally unlikely that the same proprietor does something like this, but I think it would be seldom enough to accept there would need to be several points (shops) within one building in this except

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, I think this is not the best example, as VW and BMW would rather be brand=* I thought *:sales= to be used with yes/no/used, combined with type=* (variants of the item which is sold) and parts=yes/no (in some cases additionally "custom") The yes/no tags are easier to handle (for mappers)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop subtags

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
ne just got a PC job nowadays. - sarcasm off - Am 03.09.2017 um 15:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > sent from a phone > > On 3. Sep 2017, at 11:29, Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>> wrote: > >> IMHO most shops will offer >> *sales,rental,parts,repair,* >

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
er with generic clothing shops and distinguish them > only in a subtag, that's absurd, because nobody will want to find the bridal > shop in his search results when s/he wants to buy clothes - unless it's for > your own wedding, which typically is very infrequently, and for which you'd > likely will se

Re: [Tagging] English grammar and back seat drivers Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
Why don't they call it a sale counter, then ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop_subtags Am 03.09.2017 um 14:42 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > sent from a phone > > On 3. Sep 2017, at 09:46, Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>> wrote

Re: [Tagging] Clothes subtags (was "Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3" and before that "shop=fashion")

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
'll then see if they will be used. And if certain shops need extra tags. Kinda standardization, easier to handle for any tool referring to OSM. Am 03.09.2017 um 13:43 schrieb Andy Townsend: > On 02/09/2017 18:19, Thilo Haug wrote: >> Please consider there might be more useful subtags fo

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop subtags

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
. Cheers, Thilo Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: [Tagging] shop=fashion shop=boutique / subtags Datum: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 10:03:04 +0200 Von:Thilo Haug An: tagging@openstreetmap.org shop=car, car_repair, car_parts is a good example, if you compare it with

Re: [Tagging] shop=fashion shop=boutique / subtags

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
. >> >> -- >> "Probably it's an eternal problem - too many chiefs, too few Indians" [O. >> Muzalyev] >> >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.ope

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-03 Thread Thilo Haug
because the value of its US *sales* were reduced when converted back to euro.’ ‘The fear is that corporate profits have been boosted by cost cutting, not increased *sales* and prices from a revival of the economy.’ Am 03.09.2017 um 00:53 schrieb Warin: > On 03-Sep-17 03:19 AM, Thilo Haug wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-02 Thread Thilo Haug
dmade locally built overpriced exotics with golden >> urinal >> that you never heard of. Why should it be different for clothes ? >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> _______ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] shop=fashion

2017-08-27 Thread Thilo Haug
gt; > One takeaway is that adding the "clothes" tag both to fashion and > boutique would be a good idea. > > Simon > > Am 26.08.2017 um 13:53 schrieb Thilo Haug: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm in favor of a namespace solution, >> http://wiki.openstre

Re: [Tagging] shop=fashion

2017-08-26 Thread Thilo Haug
ts/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur), type > (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new category in > this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really significant). > > cheers, > Martin > > > _

Re: [Tagging] Voting: expand the aeroway key with aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=landingpad, aeroway=launchpad

2017-05-26 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Another reminder : Vote end: 2017-05-30 (in 4 days) Cheers, Thilo Am 16.05.2017 um 10:28 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > Just a reminder: today voting for the aeroway key redefinition is > starting, please vote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/include_spacecraft_in_ae

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no / Wiki editing

2017-05-10 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi André, according to this documentation, the tagging mailing list is the wrong platform to address this : "*If you have ideas for the wiki, you can generally just do them, by editing the wiki! * If you need any assistance the *wikiteam* are here to help." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wik

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-05-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
tion that I am interested in. Karora 10:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Cheers, Thilo Am 02.05.2017 um 13:04 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2017-05-01 23:14 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug OSM <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > [...] changing without reviewing cases individually > > > &

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-05-01 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Am 01.05.2017 um 22:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > surely their performer didn't follow the automated edits code of conduct. O really, which case applies ? * changes made by Bots , which by definition act autonomously from human intervention. * d

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-05-01 Thread Thilo Haug
18:44 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2017-05-01 18:30 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug OSM <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > Hello all, > > as aeroway=spaceport was already in use, > I created a wiki description for it : > > > > as you know from the paralle

[Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-05-01 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, as aeroway=spaceport was already in use, I created a wiki description for it : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport Launchpad is also in use : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oL2 I case you feel this should be further discussed, please leave your comment here : https

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, so what is the principle of the "organisation of information" in OSM ? Up to now, I couldn't find a documentation that explains the general philosophy how to tag items. Cheers, Thilo > different organisation of information. > will very likely not be what we want. _

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
> Do not falsely conflate "complex" with "worse". You original complaint > was, in effect, that there was a lack of complexity, now you complain > that there is. In the OSM Wiki there's enough complexity (and not everything is "orthogonal"). If you'd like to tag tourism POIs, you should check sev

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-04-29 Thread Thilo Haug
veryone of the 25.000 registered users in early 2008, but we've now a much > bigger userbase so it might be worth giving it a second try... > > cheers, > Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport , aeroway=launchpad

2017-04-28 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
%3Dbunker Cheers, Thilo Am 28.04.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Thilo Haug OSM: > Hi all, > > I'm astonished there isn't a description for spaceports yet, > therefore the tagging differs widely : > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Aeroways#aeroway.3Dspaceport > >

[Tagging] aeroway=spaceport

2017-04-28 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, I'm astonished there isn't a description for spaceports yet, therefore the tagging differs widely : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Aeroways#aeroway.3Dspaceport - Proposals / Opinions ? IMHO amenity doesn't fit well, as it's just another kind of airport. Cheers, Thilo __

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - (office=courier)"

2017-04-15 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
In Germany this is the same : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Post Am 15.04.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Marc Gemis: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> How is it not a post office that just happens to have an operator other than >> the state? > So if I ask you "where is th

Re: [Tagging] office=therapist??

2017-04-14 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
I think it's similar to : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage "office" is really strange Am 13.04.2017 um 23:23 schrieb John Willis: > > > Javbw > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 4:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Looking through the current list

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - drying:*=*

2017-03-19 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, please check this proposal and comment on the discussion page : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/drying This is thought for all kinds of sport accommodations which offer a possibility to dry your equipment. Thanks in advance, Cheers, Thilo __

Re: [Tagging] Vertical farming vs. other vertical plants

2017-03-15 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hello all, regarding vertical plants, some examples against air pollution came to my mind. it's not really "farming", but at least an "artificial" way to grow plants, so it doesn't really fit with "natural" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:natural Do you think this should be considered ? I

Re: [Tagging] Day/night speed limits / taginfo, overpass

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
and sunset. Suggestions on how to tag the speed limits on >> the roads affected? >> >> [1] >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=arizona+day%2Fnight+speed+limit+sign&bext=msl&atb=v45-6&iax=1&ia=images >> >> Thanks! >> > > ____

Re: [Tagging] Day/night speed limits

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
xt=msl&atb=v45-6&iax=1&ia=images > > Thanks! > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Thilo Haug Bismarckstr.37 72764 Reutlingen Mobil: +49 177 3185856

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area : Proposal page draft created

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, I created a (separate) proposal page for this, to keep the overview : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/drying Feel free to change it, as it's in draft state, just thought to keep everything together (to me it's difficult to keep track of everything in the mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
I think I missed the beginning. Is this tag also about the places where you may pick up your parcels in case you weren't at home ? In this case, amenity would fit, as they usually aren't offices (I got a station, a laundry and a convenience shop as an example, for UPS, Hermes and DHL). By the way

Re: [Tagging] New access key for Segway needed - autobalancing:segway=* ?

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
I know a guy who got a "segway" wheelchair. The acceleration is impressive. ("autobalancing device or *similar technical equipment*") Think if this would become usual (like electric cars do), there might also be restrictions of usage (speed), similar to the Pedelec example. In Germany, law include

Re: [Tagging] Holiday house for groups --> group_accommodation ?

2017-03-13 Thread Thilo Haug
people. The kitchen is only one for all. > > Doing some proposal: is best to create a new tag (like > tourism=vacation_house) or to add a tag to tourism=apartment (like > groups=yes or simply capacity=80)? > > Lorenzo > > > ___ >

Re: [Tagging] Holiday house for groups - tourism=chalet with number of rooms / capacity ?

2017-03-12 Thread Thilo Haug
Cheers, Thilo Am 11.03.2017 um 18:37 schrieb Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami: > 2017-03-11 13:25 GMT+01:00 Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > Hi Lorenzo, > > I just know youth hostels which offer that. > > In this case it's definitely not a you

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-12 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi Paul, what do you think of : *drying:room=*yes/heated/no *drying:compartment=*yes/no/heated *drying:dryer=*convection/inertised/microwave ? The format is usual for addr:*=* and contact:*.* I think it would give the flexibility to enhance it if needed. Cheers, Thilo Am 12.03.2017 um 11:14

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-11 Thread Thilo Haug
Yes, was my fault, a bit tired in the middle of the night, wasn't logical --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area Datum: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:25:44 +0100 Von:Thilo Haug An: Tag discussion, strateg

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area or equipment_drying

2017-03-11 Thread Thilo Haug
_ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Thilo Haug Bismarckstr.37 72764 Reutlingen Mobil: +49 177 3185856 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-11 Thread Thilo Haug
t;... Pool". But since it's undocumented > I'm not sure what the 226 current uses of the tag are. > > What's the process for working out if this is the best choice, and if > it turns out to be documenting it on the wiki? > > >

Re: [Tagging] Holiday house for groups

2017-03-11 Thread Thilo Haug
ion_house (not to be confused with > a second home for vacation) or tourism=holiday_house. > Wich could be the best? > > Lorenzo > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.op

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
gt; skiing:internet_access=yes > hiking:internet_access=yes > > where they are all used by the same activities even the general > public, we simply tag the singular property internet_access=yes. > > Same for drying rooms ... all used by anyone who has access, so only >

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
vs area .. some are too small to be called a 'room', > others can be used for other things like parking vehicles too. > > > On 11-Mar-17 11:51 AM, Thilo Haug wrote: >> Hi, >> >> you're right, it doesn't have to be a separate room, >> b

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Thilo Haug
erable to use 'drying_area' as a key value for this > proposal? > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Thilo Haug Bismarckstr.37 72764 Reutlin

Re: [Tagging] NEW APPROACH : Feature Proposal tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-07 Thread Thilo Haug
tmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/motorcycle_friendly#No Thanks for all your input. Is there any "basic info" I should read ? Cheers, Thilo Am 07.03.2017 um 15:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2017-03-07 13:30 GMT+01:00 Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: >

[Tagging] NEW APPROACH : Feature Proposal tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-07 Thread Thilo Haug
ne to use motorcycle:clothes=yes instead ? Cheers, Thilo Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations Datum: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 12:56:15 +0100 Von:Thilo Haug An: Tag discu

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-07 Thread Thilo Haug
ption could be improved, please let me know in the "discussion" : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/motorcycle_friendly#Proposal Cheers, Thilo Am 07.03.2017 um 11:20 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2017-03-07 10:58 GMT+01:00 Thilo Haug <mailto:th...@gmx.de>&g

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-07 Thread Thilo Haug
ata collections ("motorcycle friendly" web pages, as they are often randomly listing hotels). This is the motivation of this tag. Didn't understand what you mean with "digest approach" ? Cheers, Thilo Am 07.03.2017 um 04:15 schrieb David Bannon: > On 07/03/17 04:55, Thilo Hau

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-06 Thread Thilo Haug
I f I have the choice just to get daily / weekly updates, that wouldn't even be a problem. Unless I wonder why a mail program shouldn't be able to filter messages by Topic. Am 06.03.2017 um 22:14 schrieb ksg: >> Am 06.03.2017 um 18:55 schrieb Thilo Haug : >> >> >

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-06 Thread Thilo Haug
ng of the mailing list autoresponder message in case > someone not subscribed sends a message (and from the reply might get > to the impression that it will pass, which it in fact almost never > does for any of the OSM lists). > > Cheers, > Martin > > > ___

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
essages, and > hasn't reviewed it yet. > > On March 5, 2017 5:02:26 PM Thilo Haug wrote: > >> There was an automatic reply, saying : >> >> "Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. >> [...] >> Either the message will get p

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
> > It is possible that the moderator has a backlog of messages, and > hasn't reviewed it yet. > > On March 5, 2017 5:02:26 PM Thilo Haug wrote: > >> There was an automatic reply, saying : >> >> "Is being held until the list moderator can review

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
a language issue, could that message be in German and > English perhaps ? > > David > > > On 06/03/17 05:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> >> sent from a phone >> >> On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:50, Thilo Haug > <mailto:th...@gmx.de>> wrot

[Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Please check where this mail has been gone, reason : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-March/031403.html Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations Datum: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:46:19 +0100

[Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - RFC - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Feature Proposal - RFC - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations Datum: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:08:10 +0100 Von:Thilo An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Hello all, please check this proposal : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/