Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 09:00:09AM +0100, Marián Kyral wrote: > > Hi, > > recently was dropped [1] the leisure=common rendering from openstreetmap- > carto as it is "misused" by mappers. A suggested replacements are: *leisure= > park, landuse=grass and/or landuse=farmland*. But there are many

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

Parking spaces, you mean ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging laboratories

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:03:37 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 04/03/19 21:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > Am Mo., 4. März 2019 um 09:37 Uhr schrieb Warin > > <61sundow...@gmail.com >: > > > > > > > > These can be commercialfirms, part of the

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 3/6/19 3:31 AM, Sergio Manzi wrote: My friend, there are 88 persons who have mapped 520 antennas (https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/antenna). Compare it to the billions of antennas out there and I think we are far below the "/noise level/" and that all energy "invested" in trying to

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Am 6. März 2019 00:35:44 MEZ schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick : >On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:01, Jan S wrote: > > >How about emergency=police? > I had thought about that, too. But my impression is that the emergency tag is more restricted to facilities that help you in ongoing situations of distress

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 3/6/19 6:00 AM, Warin wrote: So .. what is the best way to map them? My proposal would be a straightforward main tags chain to describe the physical landmark features - and then all the extra sauce specialists might want, but in a way that won't complicate the basics. So...

[Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Hi, recently was dropped [1] the leisure=common rendering from openstreetmap- carto as it is "misused" by mappers. A suggested replacements are: *leisure= park, landuse=grass and/or landuse=farmland*. But there are many places around, that are not official park and not grass as there are some

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

Tobias Knerr: > Can we please first define a solution (e.g. a relation) for connecting > such separately mapped components of a road to the highway? > > Painting lines next to each other fails to express the important > information that this kerb/sidewalk/cycleway is part of that highway > over

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 01:41, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 19:42, Paul Allen wrote: > > As I said, I'd prefer not to use url=* because it could be for anything > - a page about the history of > > the bus stop (maybe the shelter is a listed building), > > That would rather be

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Am Di., 5. März 2019 um 12:46 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > > > > Mar 5, 2019, 12:17 PM by grimpeu...@gmail.com: > > I would hence suggest to introduce a new tag "police" with keys like > "station", "administration", "criminal police", "barracks", "range", >

[Tagging] leisure=common replacement for urban public areas in Africa

The openstreetmap-carto rendering of leisure=common was recently dropped (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/commit/4df96c4e4927c3e029b31e34c0cf1be2dda6f637). In Mali and Senegal, I had found leisure=common to be an expedient way to describe explicitly designed publicly

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Sorry, my answer was meant to regard the "common replacement" (topic of the thread) more than the situation described by Marián for which "playground" is probably OK... On 2019-03-05 11:48, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Hi! > > On 2019-03-05 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 2019-03-05 12:48, Marián Kyral wrote: > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od: Mateusz Konieczny > Komu: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Datum: 5. 3. 2019 12:35:28 > Předmět: Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some > trees > > > > > > Mar 5,

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/19 09:50, Marián Kyral wrote: -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Marián Kyral Komu: tagging@openstreetmap.org Datum: 5. 3. 2019 9:02:03 Předmět: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees What about e.g.: landuse=public_green? It could be also

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 18:55 Uhr schrieb Greg Troxel : > Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > > > I wonder what we call "police" in OSM. > > > > The wiki does not offer a lot of guidance (France aside): "A police > station > > is a building where police officers and other staff work and are >

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the "map it as I see it" test. man_made=antenna + antenna:reflector=dish does map the satellite communications antenna I

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 2019-03-05 10:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use > This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the "map it as I > see it" test. > > man_made=antenna +

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Hi! On 2019-03-05 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM by mky...@email.cz: > > Typically a small areas in the city between apartment buildings. These > areas are not official parks, gardens or grass. It is just a green accessible > for everoyne. So we can say it is a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Mateusz Konieczny Komu: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Datum: 5. 3. 2019 12:35:28 Předmět: Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees " Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 AM by s...@smz.it: " Hi! On 2019-03-05

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Marián Kyral Komu: tagging@openstreetmap.org Datum: 5. 3. 2019 9:02:03 Předmět: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees " What about e.g.: landuse=public_green? It could be also extended by tags like trees=yes, scrub=yes or

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 AM by s...@smz.it: > > Hi! > > On 2019-03-05 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> >> Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM by >> mky...@email.cz >> : >> >>> Typically a small areas in the city between apartment buildings. >>> These areas are not

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/19 19:00, Marián Kyral wrote: Hi, recently was dropped [1] the leisure=common rendering from openstreetmap-carto as it is "misused" by mappers. A suggested replacements are: *leisure=park, landuse=grass and/or landuse=farmland*. But there are many places around, that are not

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Komu: tagging@openstreetmap.org Datum: 5. 3. 2019 10:04:46 Předmět: Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees " Usually the cover  does not follow the 'use' 100% so map them individually, the

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 2019-03-05 11:14, Warin wrote: > On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: >> On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use >> This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the "map it as I >> see it" test. >> >>

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the "map it as I see it" test. man_made=antenna + antenna:reflector=dish does map

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM by mky...@email.cz: > Typically a small areas in the city between apartment buildings. These areas > are not official parks, gardens or grass. It is just a green accessible for > everoyne. So we can say it is a *public* or *common* green. > So far I usually tagged such

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Mar 5, 2019, 12:17 PM by grimpeu...@gmail.com: > I would hence suggest to introduce a new tag "police" with keys like > "station", "administration", "criminal police", "barracks", "range", > "naval_base" (for river police or coast guard), etc. The type of police could > then be tagged as

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Mar 5, 2019, 12:48 PM by mky...@email.cz: > landuse=grass -  means that there will be landuse (grass) on landuse > (residental). Is this OK? > Perfectly fine. If something is both grass and residential area then this tagging is perfectly fine. In the same way as forested industrial area may

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Landcover now has about 170 000 usage count. Still growing rapidly despite not yet being rendered on OSM Carto. I would say that is enough reason to start renderin landcover on OSM Carto and other renderings. Once it renders, usage of landcover=[trees|grass|scrub] will grow even faster. Other

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Mar 5, 2019, 12:59 PM by grimpeu...@gmail.com: > I imagined that all public-facing police stations be tagged as: > > police=station > operator=(Bundespolizei/Straż Miejska etc.) > opening_hours=* > ... > > Police barracks would then be > > police=barracks > operator=* > ... > And an

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Mar 5, 2019, 1:47 PM by pelder...@gmail.com: > Landcover now has about 170 000 usage count. > > Still growing rapidly despite not yet being rendered on OSM Carto.  > > I would say that is enough reason to start renderin landcover on OSM Carto > and other renderings.  > Just usage count is

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/2019 11:48, Marián Kyral wrote: landuse=grass -  means that there will be landuse (grass) on landuse (residental). Is this OK? I'm not sure If I want to create a lots of multipolygons because of this. Yes, renderers normally do sane things in cases such as this.  In any case the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

Mar 5, 2019, 2:37 PM by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > Mar 5, 2019, 1:47 PM by > pelder...@gmail.com > : > >> Landcover now has about 170 000 usage count. >> >> Still growing rapidly despite not yet being rendered on OSM Carto.  >> >> I would say that is enough reason to

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

Paul, If your use case is people using the query tool on https://openstreetmap.org to follow links to PDFs to plan a journey, then whatever tagging specification you use doesn't really matter as long as it's understandable to the people viewing it - a link looks like a link so that's quite easy.

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:35, Paul Allen wrote: > But I'd prefer we have specific keys for > timetables and GTFS data rather than rely upon either of those. Much better > to make things clear > with timetable=* and gtfs=* (except we have to deal with partial > timetables/feeds from operators >

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:37, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > If your use case is people using the query tool on > https://openstreetmap.org to follow links to PDFs to plan a journey, > Might be a PDF or a simple web page or a Web 2.0 page with funky effects and even live updates. Sadly, given the

[Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

The 3 main goals of this proposal are: 1. the removal of the special tag highway=via_ferrata, 2. encouraging tagging of via ferratas as routes and 3. general improvement of the data about via ferratas in OSM via new keys. I welcome any comments and suggestions for improvements. Voting is

[Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

Moment has arrived. I need the use of the tagging scheme into a separated items (not only the highway itself) to make possible the draw of specific parking areas (or spaces if it is specified) in the streets with their properties exactly drawn as areas or ways. I assume also the position about the

Re: [Tagging] tagging laboratories

On 3/5/2019 2:48 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: ... and then there are big research centres that are called "laboratory". Like LLNL or Los Alamos National Laboratory. These sorts of things I've seen tagged as amenity=research_institute. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=research

Re: [Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

> In the case of OSM Carto the smart thing may be to not render paths that I am against proposals attempting to dictate how things should be rendered, in specific renderers. Can I recommend rephrasing it to a more neutral "data consumers can choose hadle specially (hide, avoid in routing,

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 19:07, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > Again, frankly - approximately zero general-purpose apps will support > whatever scheme we could come up with in OpenStreetMap to tag the > situation "this stop is served by a route that has two separate > timetables that are both valid,

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 21:36, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Sounds like landuse=recreation_ground or leisure=park to me. > Yep, I'd also suggest =recreation_ground. I've just tried & it renders over the top of residential area, so it will appear as a lighter patch of green in between your

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

> over the top of residential area, so it will appear as a lighter patch of > green in between your buildings, & can have things such as playgrounds or > basketball hoops included inside it. This is not the original meaning of “Recreation Ground” in British English. A recreation ground in

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/19 22:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 AM by s...@smz.it: Hi! On 2019-03-05 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM by mky...@email.cz : Typically a small areas in the city between apartment

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

On 05.03.19 01:01, Nick Bolten wrote: > What would you think > of a new 'associatedStreet'-style relation that would organize the > various features that should be associated between streets and the > surrounding environment? That approach could work, yes – and it's one of the few practical

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

> Unlike associatedStreet, which contains all street ways sharing the same name and can thus contain networks of essentially unbounded complexity, these relations should probably only span the stretch between two junctions, though. Agreed. This was something I had in mind but forgot to say out

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:01, Jan S wrote: > As amenity=police is currently being used indiscriminately for almost all > police-related facilities, we would have to review all police buildings > manually anyways to differentiate police stations and other units. In the > long run, I would

Re: [Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 05:09:31PM +0100, egil wrote: > The 3 main goals of this proposal are: > > 1. the removal of the special tag highway=via_ferrata, highway=via_ferrata is supported by almost all renderers(*) and you will break them. Not only is there no need to remove it but it is highly

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 05/03/19 21:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-05 11:14, Warin wrote: On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 02:56, yo paseopor wrote: > Moment has arrived. > I need the use of the tagging scheme into a separated items (not only the > highway itself) to make possible the draw of specific parking areas (or > spaces if it is specified) in the streets with their properties exactly >

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

leisure=common seems wrong for two reasons: the original notion of town common was land that could be used by all and was owned by the town or somehow public. A bit of land that is grass in an urban area does not fit this. town commons were about grazing or perhaps a meeting place;

Re: [Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

sent from a phone > On 5. Mar 2019, at 23:06, Richard wrote: > > highway=via_ferrata is supported by almost all renderers(*) and you will > break them. > Not only is there no need to remove it but it is highly counterproductive. > > via_ferrata_scale on a highway=path would be considered

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

sent from a phone > On 5. Mar 2019, at 12:17, Jan S wrote: > > Any thoughts on this? if you think about it, there are more police forces in Germany, particularly if we find more specific tagging for specific categories of forces (e.g. Bereitschaftspolizei, Autobahnpolizei,

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 2019-03-05 23:48, Warin wrote: > On 05/03/19 21:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: >> >> On 2019-03-05 11:14, Warin wrote: >> >>> On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 06/03/19 12:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: Also, if on the other hand you don't expect all TV antennas to be mapped, what will be the value of such fragmentary and sparse information? "/Cui prodest/"? Who is going to benefit from such information? Those with a concrete interest in such information

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

sent from a phone > On 5. Mar 2019, at 23:30, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > Of course, connecting the sidewalk to the highway with a relation would > likely offer a solution to that issue, too. there’s a proposal for a relation type=area which lets you add sidewalks, kerbs, guard rails and other

Re: [Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM egil wrote: > > The 3 main goals of this proposal are: > > 1. the removal of the special tag highway=via_ferrata, > 2. encouraging tagging of via ferratas as routes and > 3. general improvement of the data about via ferratas in OSM via new keys. Slightly off

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 2019-03-06 03:20, Warin wrote: > On 06/03/19 12:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: >> Also, if on the other hand you don't expect all TV antennas to be mapped, >> what will be the value of such fragmentary and sparse information? "/Cui >> prodest/"? Who is going to benefit from such information? Those

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 06/03/19 13:31, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-06 03:20, Warin wrote: On 06/03/19 12:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: Also, if on the other hand you don't expect all TV antennas to be mapped, what will be the value of such fragmentary and sparse information? "/Cui prodest/"? Who is going to benefit