sorry, I won't reply to you anymore; please read my
previous mails, I think I clarified everything.
Sadly,
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 04:57:10 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote:
David Paleino wrote:
Come on, it's like any other relation. If potlatch can't support *ANY*
kind of relation editing, it's not my fault. It's a bug. I don't use
Potlatch, so I can't tell how advanced his support
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:18:07 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote:
David Paleino wrote:
Why, oh why, this seems so out-of-context to me?
I think I already gave a solution: if you want to do it simple, use
sidewalk=*.
If you want to add more details, follow my proposal.
I'm
by someone -- it's all the
opposite.
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We also need to add cycleways to associatedStreet relations then and bus
stops and their platforms and parking lanes.
Why?
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area, or kinda (can't remember the exact proposal name, sorry).
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I defined as deprecated on my page.
Did I miss something?
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:29:28 +0100, David Paleino wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:17:10 -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
As per the discussion last week about Sidewalks, I'm re-opening the
sidewalk proposal as per:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sidewalk
We've
the road to indicate the presence of a sidewalk walk
on one or both sides of the road. David refers to this proposal as
deprecated [1].
He can claim that, but it's not depricated; the proposal is 3 years
old and wasn't ever voted on.
deprecated for *ME*. Just because I separately thought
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:21:02 -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Paleino
da...@debian.org wrote:
Since my proposal was the one most agreed on, why can't you just start
using the tags/way-of-mapping in my page? :)
David,
I suggested re-opening
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:47:39 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/3/21 David Paleino da...@debian.org:
To tag a sidewalk:
highway=footway
footway=sidewalk
I disagree. As mentioned in the Sidewalk tag, we already have
highway=footway, which is what David's proposal would largely
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:04:38 -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
[..] and I feel David wants something else entirely and
is suffering from a bit of NIH syndrome, [..]
While I thought at the proposal entirely (almost, credits also go to #osm-it
folks) on my own, I seem to have reached the same
before making my proposal though.
Enjoy your flames :)
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:12:55 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/3/21 David Paleino da...@debian.org:
I agree with Serge: you would change the meaning of highway=footway
(because to interpret it right after your amendment, you would have to
look at the footway-key as well).
Why
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Dparking_aisle
Have you considered the existing use of these tags in your proposal?
David
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 14:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but the streets that are exclusively used to access the parking
space
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Hanska/Sidewalk
Comments? :)
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:17:14 -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Based on this thread, there seems to be general consensus that the
term sidewalk is less linguistically ambiguous than footway.
I'd like to point out that not all footways are sidewalks.
Sidewalks/pavements/whatever_you_call_them are
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:53:39 -0400, Josh Doe wrote:
David,
I like this proposal, it should work well for the areas I've been
mapping. However I have been using the proposed sloped_curb=yes [1],
though I haven't been happy with it. There's also the proposed
kerb=lowered [2], which seems
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:40:21 -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:30 PM, David Paleino
da...@debian.org wrote:
...and I tried to make a unified proposal some time ago (which I have been
following for the few sidewalks I mapped). It has been written down with the
help
more now than fueltypes was when that was suggested.
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combination. In this particular case, the relevant line is at the top
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I would think that if this was a good idea and it went forward, you
would want to require an additional tag to cite the
law/regulation/ordinance that has been violated. (and a link to the
online dossier with all of the evidence and data?...)
I think that this tag is not a good idea.
David
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:16 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/2/18 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au:
Because the use of (min_)levels,height is in use by 3D renderers and
IMHO this min_level-part of the advanced building proposal is not
working (is using wrong semantics), at least
with only GA services. Most people not involved in aviation will only
care about RPT airports. AFAIK, the use of RPT/GA is fairly universal
with a clearly defined meaning.
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an aerodrome out-the-back for light aircraft
that are hopping across the country or flying doctors or even local
resident operations.
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that a flat bridge at the same level as the ground
around it should be level=1, even if what it crosses is far below.
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, where some people dont follow that strictness as much.
I imagine that different cultures could have different definitions of
vegetarian too.
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that waterway=canal is more
dominant and is causing the feature to be drawn as a surface water
feature.
Thanks,
David.
PS. Apologies if this shows up in duplicate. I had unsubscribed from
tagging some time ago and sent the above message. It has been stuck
in the moderation hopper for 24 hours, so I
Would tunnel=yes be an inappropriate tag?
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:25 PM, David Fawcett david.fawc...@gmail.com wrote:
I am curious how others would tag this way:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/48268491
Sam,
Did you see my talk at SOTM10
(annotated slides:
http://www.frankieandshadow.com/sotm10/tagcentral.pdf )
(video: http://vimeo.com/14776099 )
There's obviously a lot in common here, and there may be some ideas in
what I said that you might want to consider.
David
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/thebusway/howitworks/
On 15/11/2010 17:16, Richard Mann wrote:
I know nothing about busways (other than that they're a ridiculous
waste of money, but that's another story!)
RIchard
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com
(?) call a 'bus sluis', where
there's a hole which is too wide for a car to drive over but a pass has
a wide enough wheel base.
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On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 08:20:06 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
I think we can simply say that culture=museum is for every building or
intitution that names itself as, and let it have other key,
subordinated, like museum=art, museum
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:33:32 Tom Chance escribió:
On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño
env...@rolamasao.orgwrote:
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally
sell the exposed
On Domingo 07 Noviembre 2010 13:04:31 Sam Vekemans escribió:
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would
Independeltly of if they are culture or not, should only one of these two be
used. We do not need two tags for exactly the same thing, do we?
Noel
er Envite
I think we can simply say that culture=museum is for every building or
intitution that names itself as, and let it have other key, subordinated,
like museum=art, museum=history, museum=technology, museum=anthropology,
museum=natural_history, museum=science. Thse cover almost all possible museum
On Sábado 06 Noviembre 2010 11:39:07 Tom Chance escribió:
On 6 November 2010 11:29, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
2010/11/6 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
Should I tidy up the music_venue proposal and bring it to a vote under
the
tourism key
Is the current
On Miércoles 03 Noviembre 2010 19:14:45 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/11/3 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
The mapfeatures declare that url should not be used and website should
be used instead. Is this a common agreement? I find url used 3,5 times
more
On Martes 26 Octubre 2010 22:33:35 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/10/26 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
There are two values highway=footway and highway=pedestrian and I do not
know which are the differences between them. The wiki does not contain a
decisive difference mark
On Sábado 23 Octubre 2010 09:34:50 Vincent Pottier escribió:
On 23/10/2010 02:00, Alan Mintz wrote:
In most cities in the US, and even some smaller towns, there's an
organization called the Chamber of Commerce. With varying
participation from municipal government, it's a portal for new
On Viernes 22 Octubre 2010 18:29:58 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/10/22 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
On Viernes 22 Octubre 2010 17:58:04 Peter Budny escribió:
What is wrong with the operator=* or brand=* tags?
+1 to both
name=* to me would equate to the name
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 08:55:49 Gianfra g escribió:
I agree with Martin.
We need to distinguish between the building=kiosk that is a one room
solitary building, from the shop=kiosk activity because somewhere the
kiosk moved from the solitary building to some windows in a bigger
building.
On Martes 19 Octubre 2010 02:28:39 John F. Eldredge escribió:
What if a country does have kiosks, but the list of goods most often sold
at kiosks is different than what the usual list would be in Germany? Are
we likely to end up with an edit war on the wiki? I thought one of the
goals was to
On Domingo 17 Octubre 2010 10:52:15 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
shops should be tagged with shop=shop category, which refers to the
kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience,
which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics.
shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it
On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but
sold merchandise other than cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and
beverages would have a tag
On Jueves 14 Octubre 2010 16:05:58 Peter Körner escribió:
Am 14.10.2010 16:42, schrieb Craig Wallace:
On 14/10/2010 14:51, Peter Körner wrote:
To render a German map there are two possibilities:
1. render name:de if it exists, name otherwise
2. render name if its identical to name:de,
On Miércoles 13 Octubre 2010 11:59:22 SomeoneElse escribió:
On 13/10/2010 09:30, Lennard wrote:
And how exactly would the craft tag become widely used if people have
to out on a limb to find it, exactly because it's not mentioned in the
Map Features? This will only hamper adoption.
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:55:36 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
[..] (Btw.: it used to be a wiki, but unfortunately there was a
technical hurdle introduced so I am no more able to add tags to these
lists). Can someone add this please?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leisure
Can't you
So, How to make this a formal proposal?
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So, everybody, please, let's think on some examples to see them
comprehensively and think on the needed tags (as it was useful in the wedding
case):
* Community center created and funded by the local government
[tags here]
* Community center created and funded by an non-profit association
On Miércoles 29 Septiembre 2010 14:34:30 Nathan Edgars II escribió:
Wiki user Dieterdreist added a gas station example with
name=Tankstelle an der Eisenbahnbrücke. I disagree with this, unless
the name is actually on the signs. In the example the name would most
likely be BP, and this longer
On Martes 28 Septiembre 2010 09:06:44 Elena ``of Valhalla'' escribió:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:50:35AM +0100, Dave F. wrote:
[traffic circles]
Do these genuinely still exist? I thought the French were the only ones
to have these got rid of them when their roundabouts became
gridlocked
On Martes 28 Septiembre 2010 13:32:40 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/9/28 Mike N. nice...@att.net:
office=wedding_planner sounds fine to me.
I agree with this. However, I have also seen a number of local shops
which sell only wedding supplies (dresses, etc) but offer no wedding
On Martes 28 Septiembre 2010 18:56:10 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan seanhor...@gmail.com:
sounds good, no objections.
OK, as this is IMHO no real change, I put it in the wiki.
Now I realized something else:
according to the German ML for tagging certain objects 3
Let's racionalize this all.
Bussiness that sell bride dresses only
[Comments here]
Bussiness that sell ceremonial dresses (bride and bridmaiden, groom, black
tie, New Year, cocktail dresses... men and women, even childs)
[Comments here]
Bussiness that sell decorative wedding stuff
On Miércoles 29 Septiembre 2010 03:05:50 Noel David Torres Taño escribió:
Let's racionalize this all.
Bussiness that sell bride dresses only
They sell, so it's shop.
I think shop=bride_dresses
Bussiness that sell ceremonial dresses (bride and bridmaiden, groom, black
tie, New Year, cocktail
On Miércoles 29 Septiembre 2010 04:00:09 Simon Biber escribió:
Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
Bussiness that sell bride dresses only
shop=clothes
clothes=wedding_dresses
Bussiness that sell ceremonial dresses (bride and bridmaiden, groom,
black tie,
New Year
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:27 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features%2FIce_creamaction=historysubmitdiff=532984oldid=531944
This doesn't seem quite right.
27-18 + 1 abstain, seems an approved to me. Controversial, yes, but approved.
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Hello all:
I've created a proposal (or pre-proposal) in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:shop#shop.3Dwedding
to tag these kinds of bussiness.
I would like to get comments to it in order to have it approved (or denied) in
a near future
Thanks
Noel
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 04:14:19 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, David Paleino
da...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:27 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features%2FIce_creamaction
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:15:50 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:05 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
In German I would use Gastronomie as main tag for those, but I'm not
sure if gastronomy would be the exact translation in English for
this. My dictionary suggests catering as an
Hello all:
There are some streets which, being two-way, one way has a Stop or Give Way
and the other has not. How to tag them?
My proposal is splitting the street in two highways with same name, same tags,
etc, each one being one-way and exactly the same nodes, with one of them
having an
On Lunes 27 Septiembre 2010 14:01:58 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
Hello all:
There are some streets which, being two-way, one way has a Stop or Give
Way and the other has not. How to tag them?
tag the signs at their position (i.e
What about abandoned=yes ?
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:19:58 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/9/27 Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com:
of course, we still have the problem with the tag name, since
food+drink doesn't look quite right
if is probably not good English, but I think it's quite appealing:
it is
On Lunes 27 Septiembre 2010 16:09:45 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
Hello all:
I've created a proposal (or pre-proposal) in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:shop#shop.3Dwedding
to tag these kinds of bussiness.
I
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:08:56 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
[..]
a restaurant produces the food (prepares it from raw or semi-worked
material).
irony
Then it's clearly craft=restaurant! :-D
[..] A place producing or processing customized goods. [..] craft=* for small
production on demand
combination of the above.
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2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
I expressely said in the proposal at
http
right_of_way/give_way relation? I
remember something like that proposed time ago, but can't find it right now.
Kindly,
David
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On Lunes 27 Septiembre 2010 23:27:18 Sean Horgan escribió:
I prefer wedding_services over wedding_office, as my first thought with
office was one of those Vegas drive-thrus. Either one will still cause
some confusion though.
What about wedding_organization ?
Noel
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On Martes 28 Septiembre 2010 04:07:10 Sean Horgan escribió:
Maybe this just makes it more confusing, but it looks a photographer or a
confectioner would be listed using craft:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:craft
There is also shop=confectionery, shop=bakery, shop=florist. Maybe
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote:
Is this how to tag them?;
name:English Name
name:es:Español
Or do I need to do this:
name:English Name
name:es
es:Español
name=Name in English
name:es=Nombre en Español
David
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:41:22 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote:
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:28 AM, David Paleino wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote:
Is this how to tag them?;
name:English Name
name:es:Español
Or do I need to do this:
name:English Name
name:es
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:51:33 +0100,
char...@cferrero.net wrote:
David Paleino (da...@debian.org) wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:30 -0600, Eric Jarvies wrote:
Is this how to tag them?;
name:English Name
name:es:Español
Or do I need to do this:
name:English Name
name:es
=communication
combination, but I'm not sure the picture above is a tower.
To my mind a tower is something free standing, whilst a mast is a much
thinner structure supported by wires
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though I accept that there will be problems in cases such as
http://www.freefoto.com/images/04/02/04_02_58---Mobile-Phone-Mast_web.jpg?k=Mobile+Phone+Mast
where is this a tower, or a mast, according to my definition above?
David
cheers,
Martin
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported
byguywires
2010/9/11 David
the comment that the way should be drawn in
the direction of the water flow is quite clear, specific, and not really
open to any misinterpretation.
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the crowd makes a better map. You have noted the
direction of the ways ware wrong, and are thus able to correct them and
improve the OSM data.
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notice of this, or tag their proximity to the same features
nearby.
David
And it is a heuristic. Of course it is possible that there may be special
cases where it is not correct. But if you look at the massive heaps of
trees
they are whole citys mass imported from some data source without
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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:13 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net
wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something in this discussion, but what exactly is so
of
discussion (maybe a consensus?) before making a more formal proposal.
Ideas?
Kindly,
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:42:12 +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
2010/9/1 David Paleino da...@debian.org:
In fact, we already have a relation for grouping a street together (various
segments + links). That's Relation:route, with route=road. What about a
house role to include housenumbers
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:09:22 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:00 AM, David Paleino
da...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:42:12 +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
2010/9/1 David Paleino da...@debian.org:
In fact, we already have a relation for grouping a street
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:19:49 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
However, I'm using that because I consider Foo Avenue as a logical unit, a
route, even if the way is split (because of oneways, different
classifications, different tags, whatever).
See, for example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:31:22 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
Hello list,
while wondering about street-related things with other folks on #osm...@oftc,
we came to the question: why is Relation:associatedStreet needed at all?
(Karlsruhe schema)
I've always used it to associate housenumbers
and waterway = stream were already
assigned to that category sometime in Fenruary 2009.
David
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think how), or the flow direction is unknown then a tag such
as flow_direction: both|unknown might be of some use.
David
cheers
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based on data with streets and sidewalks separated, should almost
certainly include instructions like Cross Drury Lane.
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a.k.a. Vid the Kid
a.k.a. Bír'd'in
Does this font make me look fat?
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the one at Orange in France
Also, doesn't the Parthenon has a permanent theatrical seating area for
the Son et lumiere displays, so there's no stage but there is an auditorium.
David
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]. On many of the footpath / bridleway/byway signs these are
clearly marked
Where these are marked on the signs I've used these as follows
highway=*
ref = BB9
I've not used name, because some of these paths also have names eg
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9354973
David
Thanks,
Robert
On 28/07/2010 15:09, S.Higashi wrote:
I'm confused because I was thinking that tags on Map_Features page
were all approved tags..
There is no such thing as an approved tag.
David
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On 27/07/2010 12:05, David Earl wrote:
... You don't need anyone's permission to do this. If you do a good job and
promote it, it might catch on...
which is one of the key reasons why I think Tag Central [1] would help us.
David
[1] http://www.frankieandshadow.com/sotm10
On 27/07/2010 12:30, John Smith wrote:
On 27 July 2010 21:27, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
On 27/07/2010 12:05, David Earl wrote:
... You don't need anyone's permission to do this. If you do a good job
and
promote it, it might catch on...
which is one of the key reasons why
On 27/07/2010 13:51, John Smith wrote:
On 27 July 2010 22:33, John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Using the same tag for both could cost lives, by making delays in
finding the necessary equipment (fire hydrant or fire extinguisher)
to fight the fire in question.
While it may be useful
On 27/07/2010 15:58, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:27 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
You cannot tell from our model, without additional information such as a
relation, whether two parallel ways are part of a dual carriageway or just
parallel roads.
What's
of what the underlying feature is,
which I guess you could determine by computation, but even then the
geometry is very complicated and can have knock on effects to lengthen a
bridge artifically (just as widening a road can, as I mentioned in my talk).
David
doesn't solve the
exaggerated widths problem I mentioned.
David
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hasn't even started on the proposal, it might not get approved, the FRC
start date is today, so it might get changed.
David
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant
Regards
Martin S.
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:32 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote:
You might be thinking, what's an expressway? The
short answer is, it's just like a freeway/motorway but with at-grade
intersections.
Huh
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