Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread Peter Elderson
> rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? > > amenity=mourning > acceptable, though I think an amenity should be a feature, not an activity > amenity=place_of_mourning > favourable. Secondary tags could add details if necessary > amenity=mourning_room >

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread Peter Elderson
people do not die on schedule one at a time. Peter Elderson > Op 5 nov. 2020 om 19:56 heeft Joseph Eisenberg > het volgende geschreven: > >  > I'm not able to find any website which clearly talks about a specific > "mourning room", though it is certainly documented th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-04 Thread Peter Elderson
woll...@posteo.de: > > Dear all, > > ...someone who has died before their funeral I should hope so > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

2023-09-08 Thread Peter Elderson
How did you find out what these paths are? Any kind of signage there? Fr Gr Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 19:08 schreef Bryce Nesbitt : > > I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd. We ended up planning a > route > that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long s

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

2023-09-08 Thread Peter Elderson
So, no signage? Incline and mtb-scale still don't say you can't hike there. Fr Gr. Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 23:01 schreef Mike Thompson : > One of the trails was > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667 > highway <https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

2022-10-20 Thread Peter Elderson
I agree that it got a little out of hand, but there were some good proposals and votes as well. Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser quality stuff. Let's not throw away the baby with the wash water. Peter Elderson Op do 20 okt. 2022 om 14:28 schreef Marc_marc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-14 Thread Peter Elderson
. If a sign says a path will make you scamble somewhere, map the sign and the actual scramble(s), that's what I would do. Peter Elderson > Op 14 sep. 2022 om 23:47 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > In the real world, you will *always* find borderline ca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
then a cane, hiking shoes and gloves? Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 14:07 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer > het volgende geschreven: > >  > We are having this discussion despite we already have the necessary tags to > describe all relevant aspects, only because some map

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
he feature as they see fit. Same as e.g. highway=steps. Is it worth the effort? Don't know. Will it render? Don't know, that's up to the renderer. Can people use it for their own map style or application? Yes, if it's clearly and uniquely mapped they can, but will they? Don't know, that's up to th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
could argue a scramble is not a thing, or it is not important enough to warrant special mapping, but complex categories and side attributes do not a scramble make. Peter Elderson Op do 15 sep. 2022 om 18:53 schreef Yves via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Peter, the sac_scale d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
, that is a better indication, but it still does not say it's a scramble. Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 20:53 heeft Janko Mihelić het volgende > geschreven: > >  > čet, 15. ruj 2022. 19:57 Peter Elderson je napisao: >> I know, but the scale does not indicate specific thing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
čet, 15. ruj 2022. u 14:52 Peter Elderson napisao > je: > >> Which combination(s) of highway values, sac scale values and hazard >> values would exclusively represent a scramble (Dutch verb: klauteren, i.e. >> going up or down there using hands and feet) to a grown-up, non-c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Peter Elderson
Wouldn't scramble=yes with highway=path do the trick? Hurts nobody, and carries the exact information you want. Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 23:26 heeft Asa Hundert het > volgende geschreven: > > Am Do., 15. Sept. 2022 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-20 Thread Peter Elderson
Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 20 sep. 2022 om 13:49 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > This would mean that there is a new primary tag `highway=scramble` which > makes some currently existing primary tags obsolete: > 1) `highway=via_ferrata` gets replaced by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-20 Thread Peter Elderson
to offer better routes for relevant profiles. If one community does this and creates, publishes and maintains e.g. a specialised map and router for the region, it's worth it. Then other communites will follow. if not, no harm done, the data is still valid and nothing is broken. Peter Elderson >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread Peter Elderson
or estimate the capacity different, as long as they don't remove my capacity tag. Peter Elderson Op do 29 sep. 2022 om 14:10 schreef martianfreeloader < martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>: > Facing heavy objections and no support, I have come to the conclusion > that my proposal is not consi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

2022-10-11 Thread Peter Elderson
Keeping the status as de facto, avoids confusion about approval status of the values. I think it's best to pick another battle. Peter Elderson > Op 11 okt. 2022 om 17:14 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > I've reduced the proposal to the historic=* key itsel

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

2022-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
primary feature" does not seem to have any other meaning then just feature. Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 23:17 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer > het volgende geschreven: > >  >> Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 12:40 Uhr schrieb martianfreeloader >> : >&g

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

2022-10-08 Thread Peter Elderson
I have the impression that slow running water points in Europe rapidly are fitted with a push button fot a limited amount of water or a limited tap time. Would that turn them into water taps? Peter Elderson > Op 8 okt. 2022 om 19:26 heeft michael spreng (datendelphin) > het vo

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

2022-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
of an object, as opposed e.g. to an attribute of a changeset. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 04:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > > Vào lúc 10:36 2022-10-02, martianfreeloader đã viết: >> Hi, >> I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

2022-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
I guess Primary key and Main key are the same. Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 04:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > > Vào lúc 10:36 2022-10-02, martianfreeloader đã viết: >> Hi, >> I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have come across th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-02 Thread Peter Elderson
. uses smaller "people", some mappers might amend it but most mappers will tolerate the estimate, as will walkers. Adaptive bunch, walkers. Peter Elderson > Op 2 okt. 2022 om 22:21 heeft Raphael het volgende > geschreven: > > Until very recently, the wiki said th

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

2022-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
bject type (the value). So, equivalent to main tag. I think the term secondary tag(s) and secondary key(s) are often used for the extra attributes of a feature, implying there should be a main tag first, to give the secondary tags meaning. Peter Elderson Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 12:40 schreef martian

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

2022-10-14 Thread Peter Elderson
be decorated, or fitted to a decorative object, but still is an amenity. The BE word fountain, I understand, primarily means the decorative structure including the decorative waterflow. So, to me, any tagging using amenity=fountain sounds like a contradiction. Peter Elderson Op vr 14 okt. 2022 om 12

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

2022-09-30 Thread Peter Elderson
the road. Or, a new railway intersects the road and no crossing is provided. In those cases, usually the road is still seen as an unclassified road. Peter Elderson > Op 30 sep. 2022 om 17:48 heeft grin via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > > Hello, > > To open it for

Re: [Tagging] feature Proposal - Voting - settlement_type=crannog

2022-10-07 Thread Peter Elderson
a separate vote for that, fine. If the current vote is postponed till after, fine, it is the royal way I think, but I think it is not necessary. I think we can be practical about this, not principal. It's just not big enough. Peter Elderson Op vr 7 okt. 2022 om 13:10 schreef Andy Townsend : > > On

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-30 Thread Peter Elderson
an be a different story. Which means you can't correct naming errors without additional verification, preferably local survey. Peter Elderson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-29 Thread Peter Elderson
I have seen some paths which actually had the same name as the hiking trail running over it. Normally this is not the case, the path usually has is own local name or no name at all. So most of the time this would be an error, but you can't be sure without survey.Fr Gr Peter EldersonOp 29 dec. 2022

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a hole in the ground

2023-01-01 Thread Peter Elderson
If you cannot see what it is or what it is, it's just a hazard. Peter Elderson Op zo 1 jan. 2023 om 12:51 schreef Troels Arvin : > Hello, > > When I was trekking south of Olympos in Tyrkey, I came across some ruins > which were not on OSM. Within the ruins there is a hole i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Announce proposals on the community forum

2023-01-07 Thread Peter Elderson
I get the tagging list mails and the forum messages in one inbox labeled "Forums". If you were to sent the next message to the forum instead of the mailling list, it would land in exactly the same position in my inbox. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op za 7 jan. 2023 om 23:14 schreef Marc_ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

2022-11-29 Thread Peter Elderson
, but in no way do they define the crossing, so they have to be mapped as separate objects or attributes. * Traffic experts may have many more names, just none that the general public knows. Fr gr Peter Elderson > Op 29 nov. 2022 om 11:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > &

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Peter Elderson
Op za 28 jan. 2023 om 23:38 schreef Colin Smale : > A form of roundabout common in the Netherlands has an inner ring which is > often distinctly coloured and slightly raised, thus making it clear that > traffic is intended to avoid it and use the outer ring, while keeping it > perfectly usable by

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-28 Thread Peter Elderson
The mini-roundabout just adds priority on the MR to the general keep left rule, that is my understanding. Peter Elderson > Op 29 jan. 2023 om 00:37 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:12:11PM +, Philip Barnes wrote: >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

2022-11-04 Thread Peter Elderson
I would say the lighting is slightly outdated. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 4 nov. 2022 om 17:06 heeft Brian M. Sperlongano het > volgende geschreven: > >  > I'll offer a well-known example from my country: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Fabulous_Las_Vegas_sig

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

2023-02-24 Thread Peter Elderson
Martin Koppenhoefer : > I believe setting up voting to approve a tag with "de-facto"-status is a > waste of time, particularly if you do not intend to refine the definition, > and an approval will only "downgrade" the tag from "de-facto" to > "approved". People have already voted on the tag by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

2023-02-24 Thread Peter Elderson
. But I trust it'll pass. So far, no criticism on the mapping itself has been posted. (If I had tried the same with landcover=trees|grass don't worry, I won't) Peter Elderson Op vr 24 feb. 2023 om 11:51 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > Am Fr., 24.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

2023-02-24 Thread Peter Elderson
Sorry, I wasn't clear. The current status of the tag is de facto (was: in use, but someone, not me, amended that). The proposal intends to alter that from de facto to approved, by voting. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 24 feb. 2023 om 09:24 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > O

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

2023-02-23 Thread Peter Elderson
I would like to change the status of this established tag to approved. I have altered the previous proposal to match the established practice. Any comments are welcome, but please note that I am not proposing changes in mapping. I

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - EV Charging Station Mapping

2023-03-30 Thread Peter Elderson
), nor that all charging stations have been mapped, you can't hope to get an accurate count of chargers from a query, unless the mapping and tagging is very active, complete and kept up to date.Fr Gr Peter EldersonOp 31 mrt. 2023 om 01:54 heeft Andy Townsend het volgende geschreven

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

2023-07-07 Thread Peter Elderson
Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 7 jul 2023 om 03:58 schreef Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr>: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:00:26 +1000, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/7/23 03:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> ford=impas

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-23 Thread Peter Elderson
barbecue=support ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > >  https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > acco

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

2023-06-15 Thread Peter Elderson
Trying to understand. If I read this right you want the router/navigator to replace the target address of a routing request with a different object or location, then start routing, right? Why not simply tag the object_id or other identifier of the replace-destination on the source object (in your

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature proposal - Tag:natural=wadi

2024-05-25 Thread Peter Elderson
I like this proposal very much. One thing: by its nature, other naturals will overlap with natural=wadi, right? Any thoughts on that? And, you say you can map it as a node. That seems a bit strange, because it's such an elongated feature. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op za 25 mei 2024 om 17:51 schreef

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges"

2019-05-25 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
r) can be occupied all year, but the owner is now applying for permission for 9 of them to be occupied all year (with no real justification - IMHO)  It seems that the local community do not want a permanent development there, but the owner (selling them at £190,000 per plot, remember) wants to tu

[Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges"

2019-05-22 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
=Park” -  “Open, green area for recreation, usuallymunicipal”. Any advice, please? Peter  ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Was public_transport=platform intended to > always be combined with highway=bus_stop?

2019-07-31 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
lps, rather than just making things more confusing.  Peter  >Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:51:13 +0900 >From: Joseph Eisenberg >To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"     >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Was public_transport=platform intended to >    always be combined w

[Tagging] Hill Figures

2019-09-04 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
+1, I added it to some of linked example that were missing it -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20190904/eb9735bc/attachment-0001.html> +1   I have added the man

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 120, Issue 33

2019-09-07 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
>> large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not >> have a royal >> charter awarding them that status. >Got any examples of this? Milton Keynes!! (I live there; it's a great place, but not really a city) Peter

Re: [Tagging] Was public_transport=platform intended to > always be combined with highway=bus_stop?

2019-07-31 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
wishing to travel would expect to check which platform to stand on, as that could be changed at short notice.  So adding that detail to the map would not (IMHO) be useful.    Regards, Peter On Wednesday, 31 July 2019, 17:49:06 BST, Markus wrote: On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 15:08, Peter Neale

[Tagging] Junction=Approach

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Help, please. I have been wandering around my local area in OSM (from my armchair), looking for things that need fixing, which I either know about from going past them every day, or can easily visit. Using the iD editor and clicking on "issues" shows a large number of instances of:  ' should be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
, asking to use the designated sunbathing area that was shown on your map! Peter >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 13:39:44 +0100 >From: Paul Allen >To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"  >    >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing >Message-ID:  &g

[Tagging] junction=approach

2019-10-12 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
e Wiki entry for “Key:junction” to deprecate, or warn against this usage? Regards, Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] lateral protection of foot bridge

2019-12-23 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
de of the footpath, which you could map as such. Regards,Peter On Monday, 23 December 2019, 12:04:56 GMT, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send Tagging mailing list submissions to     tagging@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     h

[Tagging] How to tag the Electric Vehicle Experience Centre?

2020-02-04 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
In Milton Keynes, a shop space in the Central Milton Keynes shopping mall (or , "centre:mk", as we like to call it) is occupied by the Electric Vehicle Experience Centre https://evexperiencecentre.co.uk/ It looks like a car sales showroom, but their home page says,  "We are the UK’s first brand

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Oh, so, the Wiki doesn't use standard British English then.?   Hmmm.   Your final comment reminds me of my IT Course.  "Definition of Recursion: See Recursion". ;-) Regards,Peter >On Thursday, 6 February 2020, 17:39:35 GMT, Paul Allen wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 2020

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 125, Issue 38

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
motion:"forty-one voted with the Opposition, and some sixty more abstained"synonymsnot vote, decline/refuse to vote, informal:sit on the fenceantonymsvote Powered by Oxford Dictionaries" So an abstention is NOT a vote Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

2020-02-03 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
be security company names.  I cannot find any wiki documentation for it, but using it to show the types of security device provided should not conflict with current usage. Regards,Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
, but in many places, there will be 2 and one will be "fixed", while the other will be held in place by a padlock.  If you remove the padlock, the bollard can be lifted by hand to (only just) allow vehicle access.  I believe that the fire service and local council maintenance teams have the keys.

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable Bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ot;bollard =not_fixed", or perhaps "bollard=removable", or possibly "bollard=unremovable"; who knows?  I might try a changeset comment and ask (politely) what the mapper meant. My curiosity sparked by this, I also had a look at taginfo and found 181 instances of "b

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-03-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
k Route 51; ref=NCN 51.   Is that really a problem? Peter >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:28:30 + >From: Dave F >To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="

[Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-06 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
I dont know about the USA, but in British English, "portable" means that it can be carried.  If you can drink it, it is "potable". >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 01:57:56 +0300 >From: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru >To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"  >    >Subject: Re: [Tagging] 

Re: [Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-07 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
I'm not arguing against "drinking water", just against "portable water" (water that can be carried) Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 11:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Sep 2020, at 07:55, Peter Neale via Tagging w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-05 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
>often even throw in a free bag :) >>Phil (trigpoint) I suppose it is all a matter of supply and demand (number of horsey people v. number of serious rose-growers)   Somewhere round here I have seen roadside adverts for "Horse Manure - Pick Your Own"!  Not sure whether they provide the bag, or not. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

2020-06-08 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
>Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 11:31:20 +0200 >From: Cornelis >To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs) >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >This thread is a great help to me, as I recently discovered this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail

2020-06-11 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
(otherwise it wouldn't be 3rd rail) and, if the 4th rail is mentioned, then the 1st, 2nd and 3rd must also be there. Peter  ;-) >Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:55:27 +0200 >From: Colin Smale >To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail > 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

2020-11-27 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
) that they might fall down, or to warn a person on a road or footpath (at the bottom of the cliff) that a person might land on top of them! Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
oft as "pillows"  (Cushions on the sofa; pillows on the bed) https://www.trafficchoices.co.uk/traffic-schemes/speed-cushions.shtml Regards,Peter >Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:12:14 + >From: Paul Allen >To: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru >Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and relat

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

2022-09-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
+1 The "tap" is the device to control the flow.  Often, but not necessarily, at the end of the pipe.  If the user cannot control the flow, there is NOT a "tap" present.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan 99) On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 08:28:34 BST, Martin Koppenhoefer wr

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

2022-09-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
IMHO, if the user cannot (normally) access it, it is not worth mapping.  Or, do you want to micro-map every control valve (same function as a tap) in the water supply system, including those that cannot be seen? Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 09:07:54 BST

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

2022-10-12 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Well, I have not seen the object in question, so I don't know what it is. Perhaps it is a "barrier=wall; historic=yes"or an "abandonned:building=house; historic=yes;"or abandonned:place=village; historic=yes" all, possibly with "ruins=yes" Regards,Peter(Peter

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

2022-10-10 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
>I think you're joking about the lemonade, but here's the world's >largestfountain drink cup, now mapped in OSM: Yes, I thought I was joking, but now you tell me it is possible!  LOL Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Monday, 10 October 2022 at 20:25:53 BST, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

2022-10-11 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ences, which were previously occupied by some famous person?  They probably ARE "of historic initerest", but they are still a  "building=house". However, I fear that the (mis) use of "historic=" is so endemic that I am pi**ing into the wind if I try to change it. Regar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

2022-10-12 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ject and another for an historic one (perhaps the same symbol, but in a different colour?) My point is that beíng historic is an attribute of an object that IS something else (battlefield, memorial, house, dairy...).  "historic" is an adjective, not a noun.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

2022-10-09 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ht struggle and need assistance)   A tap is a device to control the flow of whatever liquid (or gas, I suppose) is coming out.  Potable water, non-potable water; lemonade; petrol (gasoline), Oxygen, whatever... Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 18:43:39 BST, Pe

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

2022-10-10 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
r. So a water-delivery device (whtever you call it) can HAVE a tap (to contol flow of water leaving), but that does NOT mean that the whole thing IS a tap. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On Sunday, 9 October 2022 at 22:18:50 BST, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 9, 2022, 23:08 by

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-30 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
+1 PeterPan99 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 at 20:02, Dave F via Tagging wrote: On 29/12/2022 09:47, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > I think the 'names' should be removed from these 'unnamed' things > ..the 'name' is the name of the route not the individual tracks/paths >

Re: [Tagging] scope of emergency=dry_riser_inlet

2022-12-11 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Call me old fashioned, but I think that we should only use "dry_riser_inlet" for the inlet to a riser that is... ...wait for it...   ...well, that is dry!  If that means that we needs few more tags to convey more information, then so be it. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-01-25 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that has a diameter, but does it matter to any prospective map user? Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 17:53:55 GMT, Volker Schmidt wrote: Is there an established

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

2022-11-08 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
object". The Wiki should be amended to align more closely to real life. Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Tuesday, 8 November 2022 at 08:16:05 GMT, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone > On 8 Nov 2022, at 08:17, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > Having

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

2023-02-02 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
eter is unlikely to be of use to any map user, unless thay are planning to do a U-Turn (which they are supposed to "avoid" doing. Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 09:04:05 GMT, Philip Barnes wrote: A mini roundabout often doesn't usually have a diameter. M

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

2023-02-22 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Hi @Mateusz, Thank you for clarifying the meaning of "=permit".  I will have to think again how to tag these ways.  If I have used Taginfo correctly there are "only" 1503 ways with "description=redway", which I might have tagged like this!  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

2023-02-21 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
arriers with similar locks, which Fire Services might want to see mapped and correctly tagged. Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 19:04:08 GMT, Marc_marc wrote: Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stad...@gmail.com: >      1. As far a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Well, to me, "type of ownership" suggests values such as "freehold"; "leasehold"; "rented", which I _don't_ think is what is intended. I think we should avoid the word "type" if at all possible.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Friday, 14

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ngth=*" and "wheelchair_button="?  You do not need to repeat the "elevator" in the tag, if the object that you are tagging is the elevator. Or am I missing something?  Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:51:05 BST, ro.

[Tagging] Fw: Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ww.dropbox.com/s/kevp7co3huw6spm/Parking%20Space%20Markings.png?dl=0Source:   Bing Maps Aerial, via OSM iD editor Perhaps I do not fully understand your proposal?    Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:09:46 BST, wrote: Amenity=par

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

2024-01-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
0.3048 m according to my ConvertPad app on my phone - and according to Wikipedia (so that must be true!) Regards,Peter (PeterPann99) On Sunday, 28 January 2024 at 19:36:06 GMT, Philip Barnes wrote: The legal definition of a foot is of course  0.348 m. "Since an internat

[Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

2024-04-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
lternative to*, not *a qualification of * "highway=bridleway". I don't want to mislead consumers by breaking the bridleway, but I don't want cycling consumers to be unaware of the fact that there are a few steps to descend / ascend, which may require a dismount. Regar

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

2024-04-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Hi Andy, Many thanks indeed for the very speedy advice.  I will do the basic tagging now (from aerial imagery and memory) and visit again shortly to add more detail. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 15:40:53 BST, Andy Townsend wrote: On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

2024-04-28 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
is now  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1277843368 I hope this helps and that you agree with the tagging. Regards,Peter (PeterPan99) On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 17:35:58 BST, Dave F via Tagging wrote: Could you provide the link to the OSM way please? DaveF On 28/04/2024 15:19

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

2024-04-29 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
s we do.  key:flat_step *might* be appropriate (and useful to consumers looking to take a child's buggy along the way).  I will give that some thought. Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Monday, 29 April 2024 at 09:09:05 BST, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

2024-04-29 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
ll carry (or push) a bicycle, even where the way is tagged "bicycle=no".  (from the wiki again) "bicycle / no / Where bicycles are not permitted, ensure this is indicated. Note that carrying or pushing bicycles may be still accepted". So, thanks for asking, but I remain happy wi

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