Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Even for a government bureaucrat like me it seems a bit wordy. :-) On 11/12/2018 6:19 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote >> On 7. Nov 2018, at 02:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Maybe change the title a little bit: "office of an elected official"? > maybe this goes too far? > > Cheers, Martin >

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

sent from a phone > On 7. Nov 2018, at 02:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Maybe change the title a little bit: "office of an elected official"? maybe this goes too far? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Nov 7, 2018 11:22 PM, "Allan Mustard" wrote: I like constituency_office. +1 FWIW, Wikidata has settled on the term "constituency" for this political concept (aka parliamentary seat, electoral district, legislative district, etc.): https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q192611

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

I like constituency_office. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think I have firmed up on > > office=government > > with either > > government=constituency_office > or > government=politicians_office > > I'll start a proposal

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 07/11/18 12:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 10:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: As the subject title says " tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament"?  Note different places may use different

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 10:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As the subject title says " tagging for an office of the local > representative to parliament"? > Note different places may use different words to describe their > 'parliament' and/or 'local representative' > Maybe change the

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 07/11/18 11:01, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:45 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: I think I have firmed up on office=government with either government=constituency_office or government=politicians_office I

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:45 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think I have firmed up on > > office=government > > with either > > government=constituency_office > or > government=politicians_office > I assume you're thinking of elected representatives. Because they're usually the

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

I think I have firmed up on office=government with either government=constituency_office or government=politicians_office I'll start a proposal page .. I'd like a vote on which one, or if there are any other ideas for a government= something else.

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:25 AM Colin Smale wrote: > On 2018-11-04 01:20, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the >> European Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 2018-11-04 01:20, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European >> Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a >> "politician" as such? > >

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On 04/11/18 11:20, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Exactly right.  Government has a legal monopoly on coercion, ranging from the death penalty to collection of taxes and enforcement of the barking dog ordinance in Fairfax County, Virginia.  Contractors do a lot of government work (in the United States, contractors outnumber direct-hire government

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

The activity of a prison is on behalf of a government, pursuant to a statutory duty of the government to administer justice. That its operation is outsourced to a private company doesn't change that fact. You can't just start your own prison - it is a state monopoly. Public transport may be a

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 10:19, Allan Mustard wrote: > > If it is a budget-dependent company/corporation, such as the Commodity Credit > Corporation of the U.S. government, which generates no revenue of its own and > relies wholly on appropriations from the U.S. Congress, yes,

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Thanks for the clear explanation, Allan! Although if it really has zero staff, I do wonder who employs the people who "push the buttons" - authorising and approving payments etc. Do they work for the Dept of Agriculture? Are they technically "contractors" to the CCC? On 2018-11-04 13:43, Allan

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The Commodity Credit Corporation is the U.S. equivalent of a British "crown corporation".  It has no staff of its own, a board of directors that consists of the senior political appointees of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and authority to disburse funds to farmers eligible for various

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

The answer will depend on whether we are talking about landuse, building, office or amenity. Waste disposal is (in Europe) usually a statutory task, performed by a commercial company on behalf of some government. If it is open to the public, then the "amenity" provided is waste disposal /

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Where do you draw the line? If a 'government company' has 50% of its income from a government allocation and the rest from elsewhere (e.g. contracts with private companies/individuals) is it 'government' or not?  On 04/11/18 20:19, Allan Mustard wrote: If it is a profitable company that

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 05:54, Allan Mustard wrote: > > Paul, as Deep Throat told Bob Woodward, "Follow the money." Who pays the > rent on the office and who pays the salary of the occupant? If the filthy > lucre comes out of the government budget, and the office is used by

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

If it is a profitable company that adds to the government's coffers, such as the Budvar brewery in the Czech Republic, which is government owned, I'd say no.  It should be tagged as a brewery.  Same logic would apply to Rosoboronexport, which is Russia's second-largest revenue earner as an arms

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Paul, as Deep Throat told Bob Woodward, "Follow the money."  Who pays the rent on the office and who pays the salary of the occupant?  If the filthy lucre comes out of the government budget, and the office is used by someone drawing a government salary (as all executives, legislators, and judges

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

He is still a government official, is drawing a government salary, and the office rent is paid for out of the government budget.  It isn't his personal office for which he is paying out of his own pocket.  Political parties don't pay for office expenses of members of Parliament or other

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 04/11/18 11:17, Allan Mustard wrote: Top-level tag IMHO would be office=government, then additional tag would be government=legislature. The three branches of government are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial branches. Errr...  this is not to map the executive, the

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On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the > European Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are > they a "politician" as such? > Elected. They don't serve any useful purpose since the EU

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Top-level tag IMHO would be office=government, then additional tag would be government=legislature. The three branches of government are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial branches. On 11/4/2018 5:08 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 07:05, Warin

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 07:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's going to take some careful thought, and many postings here, to come > up with a scheme > with sensible terminology that works for all those situations. > > To me these are all 'politicians' or at least serve a political role

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 04/11/18 01:41, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:29 AM Allan Mustard > wrote: Hmmm. Reaching back to my bachelor's degree in political science, Parliament is also a government body, the legislative branch of the government, so even a member

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:29 AM Allan Mustard wrote: > Hmmm. Reaching back to my bachelor's degree in political science, > Parliament is also a government body, the legislative branch of the > government, so even a member of the opposition is part of "government" in > its broadest sense. I

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Hmmm.  Reaching back to my bachelor's degree in political science, Parliament is also a government body, the legislative branch of the government, so even a member of the opposition is part of "government" in its broadest sense.  I would tag it office=government, government=parliamentarian or

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 03/11/18 11:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've done office=government with name=Michael Hart MP, Member for Burleigh, which seems to work, but office=politician would also seem OK. Not all of the elected are 'government' .. a few are 'opposition' :) Hence my reluctance to use that value.

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

I've done office=government with name=Michael Hart MP, Member for Burleigh, which seems to work, but office=politician would also seem OK. Definitely not an embassy though! Thanks Graeme On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 09:53, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > What tags to use for a

[Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Hi, What tags to use for a local representative to parliament (or any other form of government)? I came across one that was tagged amenity=embassy .. which is not right. But what to use? I have, for the moment, tagged it as office=politician... is there something better?