Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

barbecue=support ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > >  https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to >

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Trying to understand. If I read this right you want the router/navigator to replace the target address of a routing request with a different object or location, then start routing, right? Why not simply tag the object_id or other identifier of the replace-destination on the source object (in your

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 7 jul 2023 om 03:58 schreef Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr>: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:00:26 +1000, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/7/23 03:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> ford=impassable

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

How did you find out what these paths are? Any kind of signage there? Fr Gr Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 19:08 schreef Bryce Nesbitt : > > I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd. We ended up planning a > route > that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long s

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

So, no signage? Incline and mtb-scale still don't say you can't hike there. Fr Gr. Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 23:01 schreef Mike Thompson : > One of the trails was > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667 > highway <https://wiki.

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature proposal - Tag:natural=wadi

I like this proposal very much. One thing: by its nature, other naturals will overlap with natural=wadi, right? Any thoughts on that? And, you say you can map it as a node. That seems a bit strange, because it's such an elongated feature. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op za 25 mei 2024 om 17:51 sc

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

, no matter how lacking the additional tagging is. Last resort would be ignoring it. If basic tagging means that renderers and routers start to ignore mapped ways, that would be bad indeed. Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 31 mei 2020 om 17:37 schreef Daniel Westergren : > As I recall, a long t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

discuss a solution first, than see the issue as comment in a no or abstain vote! Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 20 mei 2020 om 13:33 schreef Peter Elderson : > Please review and comment on this proposal: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Recreational_route_re

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

Thanks, I will have a go. Probably it's not that hard. Best, Peter Elderson Op ma 1 jun. 2020 om 11:49 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > > > Jun 1, 2020, 10:03 by pelder...@gmail.com: > > > Just a reminder: in a few days vo

[Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Recreational route relation roles

ndwork for things to come. Best, Peter Elderson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Help explain the difference between path and track

well-trodden path This is the path to the cliffs. It will be several days before snowploughs clear a path (through) to the village. They followed the path until they came to a gate. So this https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.9940387923&lng=4.707510424794445&z=17&focus=photo&pK

[Tagging] Compliments and thanks to the "iD people"!

chapter!) Best, Peter Elderson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting result - Recreational Route Relation Roles

a textual clean-up and add links to relevant feature pages? Best, Peter Elderson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

and belong to a transfer section, all at the same time. A relation member cannot have the forward|backward role, but it could be both transfer and one of the approved basic role set. This complication can always be solved within a relation hierarchy, though. Best, Peter Elderson Op do 18 jun. 202

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

he bicycle route relation, it should alway check the ways themselves for access, no matter what the route relation says. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 19 jun. 2020 om 14:02 schreef Francesco Ansanelli : > Dear Volker and Peter, > > I agree with you both... > The question was born for a

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

This <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Recreational_route_relation_roles#Transfer> is the talk page section I wrote about a week ago, for future consideration. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 19 jun. 2020 om 14:33 schreef Peter Elderson : > I think a bicycle rout

Re: [Tagging] Are rowboats covered by "boat=*" or "canoe=*"?

Networks for canoes use network=lpn|rpn|npn|rpn where p stands for paddling. Hm, I fear that only complicates the matter... Vr gr Peter Elderson Op di 23 jun. 2020 om 14:05 schreef Niels Elgaard Larsen : > Joseph Eisenberg: > > The wiki page Key:boat <https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

For the record, I think a transfer role is a generic solution for the issue raised here, applicable to the cable car transfer and other types of transfer in routes, but I will not propose a new role value any time soon. Anyone who wants to do it has my support, though. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op

Re: [Tagging] Name for new wiki pages about roles of members in route relations?

What would be a proper example page for this? The after-proposal-cleanup-procedure suggests the key:highway page, but that does not seem appropriate for a role set. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 26 jun. 2020 om 13:25 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

Re: [Tagging] Name for new wiki pages about roles of members in route relations?

s. For example: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Tagging_scheme_for_hiking_and_foot_route_relations#Roles Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 26 jun. 2020 om 17:22 schreef Tobias Knerr : > On 25.06.20 19:46, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Should individual pages for these roles be l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

Organic without any mineral, would you still call that soil? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 11:55 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 10. Jul 2020, at 11:39, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

Looks like humus is a component of soil. So I think soil covers it, being a top layer consisting of mixed organic and mineral matter. To me it is hard to imagine an area as permanently natural=bare_soil. Wouldn't there always be some kind of vegetation within a year? Best, Peter Elderson

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

indicate that it is bare soil. All in all, I think natural=bare_soil is the best option, and that it fills an important gap in the mapping of Earth's surface. Question: How sure can you be from satellite imagery or aerial photography that an area is actually bare soil? Best, Peter Elderson

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - junction=intersection

Question: does it break anything? I am thinking about existing relations of various kinds. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 16:17 schreef Matthew Woehlke < mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com>: > As some of you may recall, I'm working on a project to do traffic > simulation wit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - junction=intersection

me, not by discovering all routes and turn restrictions are broken. Just a consideration, if it doesn't break anything it's fine. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 16:50 schreef Matthew Woehlke < mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com>: > On 10/07/2020 10.36, Peter Elderson wrote

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

ns. Does not confuse me. At all. Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 12 jul. 2020 om 16:49 schreef Mike Thompson : > Hello, > > According to the wiki[0], it seems that the network tag has different > meanings and possible values based upon if it is applied to a route > relation where route=

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

rarchy. Feel free to try though. Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 12 jul. 2020 om 21:04 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 12. Jul 2020, at 20:32, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > > The US has two national highway netwo

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

now the current operator or provider. Peter Elderson > Op 12 jul. 2020 om 23:41 heeft Mike Thompson het > volgende geschreven: > >  > > >> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 9:53 AM Peter Elderson wrote: >> Aren't Interstate and US evident from the geographic extent as w

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

Maybe just tag network=nfn then? Can be applied in any country. Details see oprator and ref. How two distinguish two roads hundreds of miles away from each other? Hm... that is a hard question... Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 13 jul. 2020 om 00:33 heeft Clay Smalley het > volgende gesc

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

recreational routes onto the new consistent scheme without breaking current rendering and processing, if you can do it, let's talk again! Mvg Peter Elderson Op 13 jul. 2020 om 00:18 heeft Paul Johnson het volgende geschreven:  Disambiguation. US:FS:Hood and US:FS:Ozark are two diff

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

damage than good, even if it were possible. Just "consistency" is not worth it. Is there a more compellent reason? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op zo 12 jul. 2020 om 16:49 schreef Mike Thompson : > Hello, > > According to the wiki[0], it seems that the network tag has different >

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

I can't see how that applies to recreational route networks in Europe. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 13 jul. 2020 om 15:33 heeft Paul Johnson het > volgende geschreven: > >  > > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 1:04 AM Peter Elderson wrote: >> Sounds to me th

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

around the world, for recreational routes of all scopes and modalities, even though countries have very different administration and maintenance systems from completely central to distributed and chaotic, and different for most modalities. Best, Peter Elderson Op ma 13 jul. 2020 om 18:51 schreef

Re: [Tagging] network tag on route relations

Route=foot, route=hiking, route=bicycle, route=piste, route=inline_skates, route=canoe, route=horse. modality may be a wrong word? It's used in Nederland to mean transport mode, including walking. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op ma 13 jul. 2020 om 20:29 schreef Paul Johnson : > What is a recr

Re: [Tagging] site relations for city walls?

Wouldn't a multipolygon with just two outers solve that parking case? Best Peter Elderson Op ma 13 jul. 2020 om 21:02 schreef Lionel Giard : > I also saw it used for parking lot that are completely separated (like on > two sides of a big highway) but still part of the &qu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

As I understand it, it is soil. That is something. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op ma 13 jul. 2020 om 23:09 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 13. Jul 2020, at 22:36, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > > > The Ata

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

That's OSM in a nutshell. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 13 jul. 2020 om 23:24 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer > het volgende geschreven: > >  > > sent from a phone > >> On 13. Jul 2020, at 23:16, Peter Elderson wrote: >> >> As I understand it, it is soil

Re: [Tagging] site relations for city walls?

multipolygon. Major renderers support this. One parking lot on two sides of a road is perfect for this method. Best, Peter Elderson Op di 14 jul. 2020 om 16:55 schreef Lionel Giard : > Wouldn't a multipolygon with just two outers solve that parking case? >> Best Peter Elderson &

Re: [Tagging] site relations for city walls?

to ways, borders to ways and other stuff you really should not do if you want to keep the map unbroken. Best, Peter Elderson Op di 14 jul. 2020 om 18:05 schreef Peter Elderson : > Just two outers is a regular use of multipolygon. > If the tags of two areas are the same, you can represent

Re: [Tagging] site relations for city walls?

Sure! I was just sidestepping about the parking lot example. Best, Peter Elderson Op di 14 jul. 2020 om 18:34 schreef Volker Schmidt : > Sorry to keep riding this horse, but many of my examples have areas, ways > and nodes as members, so they cannot be described by any kind of polygon.

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

I think the Why question comes first! Best, Peter Elderson Op di 21 jul. 2020 om 21:47 schreef Andy Townsend : > On 21/07/2020 20:37, pangoSE wrote: > > > > Andy Townsend skrev: (21 juli 2020 13:31:45 CEST) > > > >> I've also been trying to add these

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

bicycle=leave Vr gr Peter Elderson Op wo 22 jul. 2020 om 17:36 schreef Tod Fitch : > > > On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Jmapb wrote: > > If this unfortunate tagging practice really needs to be preserved (the > idea of retagging so many bicycle=no ways is certainly daunting) th

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

bicycle=leave Vr gr Peter Elderson Op do 23 jul. 2020 om 23:32 schreef Mike Thompson : > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:34 PM Matthew Woehlke > wrote: > > > > > > > ...but then your horse is a passenger in a vehicle. Otherwise that would > > be like sa

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

er to confirm the suggested future check_date or enter a better one. Easy overpass queries can find objects past the check_date. Easy maps can show objects past the check_date. It's all much simpler than searching possibly complex history. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op do 23 jul. 2020 om 18:08 schr

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

Op vr 24 jul. 2020 om 22:53 schreef Tobias Knerr : > On 24.07.20 14:13, Peter Elderson wrote: > > In comparable cases (non-OSM, but comparible checking schemes), I do not > > record the date it has been checked, I record the future date when it > > should be checked (again).

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

Op za 25 jul. 2020 om 13:07 schreef Andy Townsend : > > (re adding guideposts to route relations) > > On 21/07/2020 22:18, Peter Elderson wrote: > > I think the Why question comes first. Why do people in OSM map anything? I can't see any reason why I'd want

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

Op 25 jul. 2020 om 22:43 heeft Allroads het volgende geschreven: > So, now we need also a hard yes. That you must bring a bicycle with you. That's an attribute of the bus service/transfer, not the road, I think. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 25 jul. 2020 om 22:43 heeft Allroads het > volgende geschreven: > > The earlier mentioned, > bicycle=leave > This is for me, leave the bicycle behind at the sign. > More native English speakers can give a comment on that? If you're not

Re: [Tagging] new page for tree_lined=*

I can see how an area such as a parking, a churchyard or pedestrian area can be tree lined. A node feature, not so much. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 14 aug. 2020 om 01:08 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > I’ve set up an initial documentation page for the t

Re: [Tagging] new page for tree_lined=*

re if it's on a separate tree_line page. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 14 aug. 2020 om 01:08 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > I’ve set up an initial documentation page for the tree_lined attribute > (used mainly in conjunction with highways and waterways) an

Re: [Tagging] new page for tree_lined=*

Martin Koppenhoefer: > I think we can assume that a line of trees in the middle is sufficient to > make mappers use 2 highways instead of 1!? How can we distinguish between > the following sections > tree - road - tree - road - tree > and > tree - road - tree - tree - road - tree > and > tree - ro

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

Two dots are used in some circles to indicate inclusive range. eg 21..27. Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 19 aug. 2020 om 00:25 schreef Tod Fitch : > > On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Maybe we should use a different character to indicate a range, such as a >

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

footway on bridge construction, so highway=footway, bridge=yes seems ok. Canopy walkway is the term I see used everywhere, not canopy bridge. Makes sense to attach the canopy detail to the footway then. So footway=canopy_walkway sounds right to me. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 21 aug. 2020 om

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - kerb=regular

Nederland: stoeprand (/stooprund/); officially: trottoirband (/trotwharbund/) I wonder what it is in Burundi and Iceland. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 21 aug. 2020 om 09:39 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > > O

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

Do we tag highway=motor ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 aug. 2020 om 00:37 heeft Andy Mabbett het > volgende geschreven: > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >>> highway=trunk_hghway > >> these are different because it would

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

render canopy_walkways specifically. Best Peter Elderson Op za 22 aug. 2020 om 11:16 schreef Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Should the key be bridge? > I feel like canopy walkways are more like bridges than boardwalks. > > Sent from Jake Edmonds

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

The British really call bench construction "architecture"? Amazing. I can see this going the same way as village green. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 23 aug. 2020 om 22:59 heeft Andy Townsend het volgende > geschreven: > > On 23/08/2020 21:22, Joseph Eisenberg wrote

Re: [Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

Wouln't it be more osm to describe visible and verifiable attributes of features, rather than architectural design principles or supposed intentions? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 24 aug. 2020 om 12:11 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

> > how could you change the definition of an undocumented tag? > Easy. It happens all the time, you just never hear about it. ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

tags of the ways. editors, QA-tools and datausers would have to handle the role. It fits in nicely with the accepted roles for recreational routes, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roles_for_recreational_route_relations Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 11:26 schreef Francesco

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

True. In that case, a transfer relation in a superroute is necessary. Like all the other roles: do not combine these roles on ways with with forward/backward, use a relation instead. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 12:06 schreef Jo : > Hi Francesco, > > I will create the s

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I think the transfer section only needs the role transfer. The exact way of transport there is tagged on the child relation which is a route in itself. (type=route, route=*). Peter Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 13:11 schreef Jo : > I was in a hurry to go and eat and forgot to say this: >

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 12:47 schreef Peter Elderson : > True. In that case, a transfer relation in a superroute is necessary. Like > all the other roles: do not combine these roles on ways with with > forward/backward, use a relation instead. > > Vr gr Peter Elderson > > &g

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

the child relation, you don't need to specify that in the role. This is valid for many route types. I would suggest not to present it as a complex bicycle route, but as a way to incorporate transfer sections of different types in routes of any transport type. Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 3

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

well, how would you combine this? Multiple roles are currently not defined. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op ma 31 aug. 2020 om 08:16 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 31/8/20 8:25 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Keep it simple, if the simple solution does not limit you. > >

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Jo: > I added that it's not needed for ferries in the proposal on the wiki. It's > alright if we have more than 1 way to do it and leave it up to the mapper > to decide whether to map as a single route relation or split them and use a > superroute relation. > Wouldn't this apply to other transfer

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

rail to be followed exactly. I don't think roles in fixed route relations will solve the instant routing challenge! > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Peter Elderson wrote: > >> Jo: >> >>> I added that it's not needed for ferries in the proposal on the wiki. >>

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for board games themed pubs

Focus? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 11 sep. 2020 om 20:40 heeft Paul Allen het volgende > geschreven: > >  >> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 19:09, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: > >> > Themed implies that is the raison d'etre for the pubs existance and you >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for board games themed pubs

. I'm not sure how to tag solar terrace orientation and terrace cover type, though Vr gr Peter Elderson Op za 12 sep. 2020 om 11:01 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > > > 12 Sep 2020, 00:50 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > >

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

=pathtocrosstheroadmarkedwithstripeslikeazebratograntprioritytopedestrians? Peter Elderson >> Op 16 sep. 2020 om 23:47 heeft Graeme Fitzpatrick >> het volgende geschreven: >  > > >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> while the very generic crossing=marked, which was quite unp

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

In Nederland, the zebra is a very clear and specific type of crossing with legal rules including yield to pedestrians walking on or even toward the zebra. I think this will continue to be the case even after Europe leaves the British Union. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op do 17 sep. 2020 om 20:12

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

> > Maybe crossing=marked + marked=??? > where ??? is the "type" of crossing - UK_zebra (as well as all their other > birds & animals!), US_zebra, EU_zebra & so on, so if you know exactly what > it is you can specify, but if you can only see a crossing marked there, you > can just call it a marked

Re: [Tagging] Powerbank Sharing Systems

Wouldn't that just duplicate the location systems they offer? And on top of that, a sizable maintenance burden to keep up with the changes? Who is going to want this on OSM after committing to a chain? Best, Peter Elderson Op za 19 sep. 2020 om 13:02 schreef Jake Edmonds via Tagging <

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

exceptions. Currently I do map short footways/paths where I know pedestrians will cross the road, even when no physically marked crossing exists. Opposite lowered kerbs or the fact that nearby dirt paths exists at both sides, not too far apart, already is a luxury. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 21

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

I have heard mourning chapel, mourning room, funeral chapel, funeral room. Chapel of rest does not seem right to me, though I understand how the funeral business would like that term better. But I'm not a native speaker. PCMIIW. Peter Elderson Op ma 21 sep. 2020 om 21:14 schreef : >

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Jeroen Hoek : > I have been applying highway=cycleway + cycleway=link as well to see how > this feels. Some early documentation I have been preparing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JeroenHoek#cycleway.3Dlink > Why the diagonal link to the center intersection node? Wouldn't it be mo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

I would suggest respectorium, but I do not want to start a new hype in the funeral branch. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 25 sep. 2020 om 17:10 heeft woll...@posteo.de het volgende geschreven: > > "Wake rooms" was at one time my favorite, but then I was told that some >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

Funeral viewing room sounds like a room where you can view the funeral. I suspect modern ones have very large screens and nice sound effects. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 27 sep. 2020 om 19:39 heeft woll...@posteo.de het volgende geschreven: > > "In any case, the proposer seems to fe

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

Clifford Snow : > I'm not sure there would be a consensus agreement to revise the wiki to > indicate landuse=forest should be used for timber production. Thoughts? > I am sure there would not. landuse=forest just means the area has trees. I think there is some consensus about that. natural=fores

Re: [Tagging] "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

What about the many streets and roads where the kerb or lining is bended and curled to cut the parking lane into sections? Best, Peter Elderson Op di 29 sep. 2020 om 11:40 schreef Supaplex : > Now I am a little confused. > > As I understand Pieter, you used "width:carriageway&q

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

I think for tagging it should be more than the occasional road-side sale? Best, Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 14:38 schreef Paul Allen : > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> shop=* seems ok for me. > > > And for me. There

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

Is it private sale? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 23:37 schreef Graeme Fitzpatrick : > > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> More important is if there is a sign, >> > > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure&

Re: [Tagging] Battery swapping spot in a charging station or being an individual tag?

Would that be a new sub-tag or a value of an existing sub-tag? Best, Peter Elderson Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 09:27 schreef Jez Nicholson : > Myself, I would prefer *not* to have a new tag. Swapping a battery is a > form of recharging and can be detailed in a subtag. > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

Another illusion shattered... where is this world going to? Best, Peter Elderson > Op 19 okt. 2020 om 13:48 heeft Jo het volgende > geschreven: > >  > It would be best to first consider the consequences of such a change. Weigh > the benefits against what we lose in time

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

Or, let's acknowledge that many distinctions are pointless because an awful lot of primary keys just mean "thing", so the key does not really matter, only the value counts. Who cares what the * in *=bus_stop says, it's a bus stop. Peter Elderson >> Op 19 okt.

Re: [Tagging] Parking fee only after some time period

towing_penalty=no means your car is towed away for free? In Nederland, towing always comes with a penalty, even if you don't want your car back. Maybe a tag for consequences should be introduced. I suggest or_else=cargone. Best, Peter Elderson > Op 21 okt. 2020 om 10:32 heeft ste

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

woll...@posteo.de: > > Dear all, > > ...someone who has died before their funeral I should hope so > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging __

Re: [Tagging] religious bias - Re: Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

ed by objects and decorations, and often actually presumed present. The deceased may also be just represented. Peter Elderson Op wo 4 nov. 2020 om 23:30 schreef Paul Allen : > On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 20:50, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> I was surprised that this tag is rushed into voting desp

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

> rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? > > amenity=mourning > acceptable, though I think an amenity should be a feature, not an activity > amenity=place_of_mourning > favourable. Secondary tags could add details if necessary > amenity=mourning_room > unfavourable.

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

e people do not die on schedule one at a time. Peter Elderson > Op 5 nov. 2020 om 19:56 heeft Joseph Eisenberg > het volgende geschreven: > >  > I'm not able to find any website which clearly talks about a specific > "mourning room", though it is certainly doc

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

would not help at all in this case. Peter Elderson > Op 10 nov. 2020 om 06:30 heeft Joseph Eisenberg > het volgende geschreven: > >  > The tag water=pond was added with a large number of other types of "water=*" > in 2011, but it has a poorly defined description.

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

I am getting a foot vs hiking feeling. Everybody knows a difference, nobody has the same difference. In the end, it does not matter. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 11 nov. 2020 om 16:02 heeft Brian M. Sperlongano > het volgende geschreven: > >  > If the consensus is to go with

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

sually"(except where it's not), "in most countries" (but not everywhere) etc etc. I don't think most bodies of water can be tagged as pond or lake by any common standard, in a way that all agree. Nor do I think that is a problem. Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 11 nov. 2020 om 19:

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

I am surprised nobody has suggested a pondness or lakicity scale yet. Best, Peter Elderson Op do 12 nov. 2020 om 02:46 schreef stevea : > If we're going to do "this:" > > So perhaps we could create a new tag water=natural_pond for small, > natural or semi-natura

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

Ah, profiling! Hadn't thought of that yet. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 13 nov. 2020 om 10:18 schreef Michael Patrick : > > I am surprised nobody has suggested a pondness or lakicity scale yet. >> > > It isn't unusual outside of OSM for relative percentages of th

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

g each one with name=Polygon Alley. No normalization applies, just tag it. Best, Peter Elderson Op ma 16 nov. 2020 om 18:17 schreef Seth Deegan : > Honestly I think I'm just confused. > I guess ways *do have* official names, it's just that I keep on thinking > about the possible

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

). I would rate this information: sometimes useful but not very reliable. Technical improvements will not fix this. What the mappers put there could do with improvement. The challenge is how to get the mappers to do it. Peter Elderson Op wo 18 nov. 2020 om 19:09 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

l the yelling at each other. Then it will become a standard yearly vaccination and we will all return to normal. O, the stories we will tell our grandchildren when they really just want to hang out with each other and play games... Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 25 nov. 2020 om 22:33 schreef Paul Allen :

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

facilities will disappear. OSM-forums will carry on the debate whether they should be tagged as historic or abandoned until the next pandemic. Peter Elderson Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 15:59 schreef Paul Allen : > On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 02:35, stevea wrote: > >> I'm in California,

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

tten "quick response" plans. Peter Elderson Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 21:07 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > Am Do., 26. Nov. 2020 um 18:35 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson < > pelder...@gmail.com>: > >> Well, mass testing did not stop the virus a

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