Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

sent from a phone > Am 27.09.2015 um 12:14 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo : > > It's always > source:foo, not foo:source. you can find both but the former is more common: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=source cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

Semantically the former makes more sense and as a plus, groups all sources under one tag: source:name specifies the source of the name tag value source:ref specifies the source of the ref tag value source:foo specifies the source of the foo tag value On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 7:18 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care

My fear is that some overzealous mappers will start adding those tags to all objects in their neighborhood, just to "protect' their area and scare away newbies. Since we suppose that all data is mean to be correct and everybody makes edits to improve the map, I do not see a good reason for such a

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On 27/09/2015, André Pirard wrote: > But I'm afraid that the correct namespace order is name:edit_warning=*. > edit_warning is a qualifier of name and not the opposite. > It is the edit warning of (for) name and not the name of the edit warning. > It's just like the

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On 27/09/2015, Marc Gemis wrote: > My fear is that some overzealous mappers will start adding those tags to > all objects in their neighborhood, just to "protect' their area and scare > away newbies. > > Since we suppose that all data is mean to be correct and everybody

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On 2015-09-24 17:32, Kotya Karapetyan wrote : > Hi André, all, > > Shall we discuss an "object_warning" tag? To begin with, it will > simply contain information. Editors can also choose to show it when > the tagged object is about to be changed. Gladly (of course), I suppose that all those

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On 26 September 2015 19:05:09 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" wrote: >It is >:warning= >which acts only when that key is changed. >geometry:warning= to protect the coordinates of the element >name:warning= to protect its name. >Those tags do not warn against changing

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On 2015-09-26 22:43, moltonel wrote : > > On 26 September 2015 19:05:09 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" > wrote: >> It is >> :warning= >> which acts only when that key is changed. >> geometry:warning= to protect the coordinates of the element >> name:warning= to protect its

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Hi, this issue does pop up on the mailing lists sometimes. Here are my thoughts from the last time: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-June/025438.html To recap, here is what I would and would not

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Hi André, all, Shall we discuss an "object_warning" tag? To begin with, it will simply contain information. Editors can also choose to show it when the tagged object is about to be changed. Kind regards, Kotya On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:53 AM, André Pirard wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care (was: Accuracy of survey)

Hi André, I don't know why your text was removed. > It would produce a message saying something like: > "The coordinates you are trying to change are accurate to 25 cm. > You probably shouldn't change this tag, certainly not with GPS data. > Are you certain that you will not destroy valuable

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On 2015-09-17 18:02, Kotya Karapetyan wrote : > Hi André, > > I don't know why your text was removed. > > > It would produce a message saying something like: > > "The coordinates you are trying to change are accurate to 25 cm. > > You probably shouldn't change this tag, certainly not with GPS

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Friday 11 September 2015 19:16:09, André Pirard: > But JOSM says "The server responds with the return code 404 instead of 200. " > when trying to validate http://dev.openstreetmap.org/ as well as > http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ > Thanks, but please give correct information. Hi André The

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On 2015-09-09 23:39, moltonel wrote : On 9 September 2015 21:46:54 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" wrote: There are various reasons for warning other mappers to be careful about their updates. I once temporarily overlaid two

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I meant my question seriously, not hypothetically I assume all these boundary posts are tagged with something like "source:location=MA State Data Set 2015-01-19"? If not, how is a mapper to compare his "correctness" to the existing "correctness"? Without this provenance information in the

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And let's not forget that what is correct to one person, may be inaccurate according to another. 50.N may be exactly accurate according to a particular frame of reference at a certain point in time, but if a surveyor with sub-centimeter accuracy equipment says it's 50.0001 then he is also

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Colin Smale writes: > I meant my question seriously, not hypothetically I assume all these > boundary posts are tagged with something like "source:location=MA State > Data Set 2015-01-19"? If not, how is a mapper to compare his > "correctness" to the existing

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Colin Smale writes: > How does the chap with the GPS on his smartphone know that the old > coordinate of 50.000 is "more correct" than his own measurement? This is generally a hard question, but if you're using a phone, and the value you see is within 20m (or maybe 10m)

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Hi André, I agree with moltonel. But otherwise I think there is a difference between a general warning or message from one mapper to another (which in its own is an interesting idea but can lead to dialogues and discussions) and a specific technical feature that would prevent moving an

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I am not expert enough to know if it's tecnically feasable: Could we not put such markers in a separate db and make that available as TMS/WMS service? Volker > > ___ Tagging mailing list

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On 09/09/2015 22:39, moltonel wrote: Please run experiments like this on a test db, not on the main one. It's easy to point your editor to dev.openstreetmap.org for example (quoting from memory, not 100% sure). While that's a good idea (the test URL I use for such things is

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care (was: Accuracy of survey)

On 2014-12-29 15:27, Kotya Karapetyan wrote : Happy holidays and 2015 everyone! > what is needed here is some tag, saying "don't touch these > coordinates, they've been surveyed with high(est)

Re: [Tagging] Handle with care (was: Accuracy of survey)

On 9 September 2015 21:46:54 GMT+01:00, "André Pirard" wrote: >There are various reasons for warning other mappers to be careful about >their updates. >I once temporarily overlaid two walking routes to show the effect of >displaying two sorts of icons. >Or I left in