On 2024-01-17 19:14, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 1/17/24 18:54, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote:
I'm lucky(?) so far in that every time I ask about things like FibeTV I
find out that my area of Markham doesn't have fibre available.
Maybe not to the home, but likely to the neighbourhood.
No,
On 1/17/24 18:54, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote:
I'm lucky(?) so far in that every time I ask about things like FibeTV
I find out that my area of Markham doesn't have fibre available.
Maybe not to the home, but likely to the neighbourhood.
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On 2024-01-16 17:53, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote:
Bell Canada no longer has to provide power to home phones.
They tried to sell us "fib", and said it was powered by them.
I'm lucky(?) so far in that every time I ask about things like FibeTV I find
out that my area of Markham doesn't
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:23 PM Kevin Cozens via talk wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-15 18:15, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> > In rural Canada (more accurately in rural Manitoba) - - - that this is
> > surprising
> > is actually quite astounding to me. Service is this bad in significant
> > amounts of
> >
On 2024-01-16 17:23, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
My new connection at my new house that I moved to (OK I started moving
things) about 10 days ago has rogers fibre service with phone running
on that.
There is definitely no battery in any of the equipment. So the ONT and
the router would
On 2024-01-15 18:15, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
In rural Canada (more accurately in rural Manitoba) - - - that this is
surprising
is actually quite astounding to me. Service is this bad in significant
amounts of
rural Canada. So bad in fact that emergency responders (flooding/forest fires)
have
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
> Bell and Rogers are now both offering VOIP based home phone services.
> I assume that they have batteries to keep things running in the event of a
> power outage but It would be interesting to have someone on list confirm
>
Original Message
SUBJECT:
Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers
DATE:
2024-01-16 08:54
FROM:
Ron / BCLUG via talk
TO:
Steve Petrie via talk wrote on 2024-01-16 05:41:
A. SSO (single sign on) -- Is it an SSO offer, when my Firefox
browser "helpfully" asks me if I would like it [my browser] to
"remember" my login credentials ??
No, SSO where one signs in to a site they've never visited via their
Google
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 00:56, Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
> google authenticator has a chrome extension you can use.
> I use a package called authy that has a desktop version.
For RFC 6238 Timed-based One-time Password (TOTP), which most sites
that offer TOTP use, I use the Google Authenticator
[snip]
[Steve Petrie]
Is it EVEN POSSIBLE for a clever hacker to spoof my email inbox and
steal my inbound email messages ??
[Alvin Starr]
In theory yes.
If they can gain control of your DNS entries they could redirect your MX
but that is low risk.
If they get your login they could insert
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:38:58 -0500
Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
> I had no obviously easy to know where your posting from.
> I guess the thing is that your posting to a Greater Toronto Area LUG
> from away.
> There is no reason why you should not do that, its just the
> assumption that your
Taking this off list.
On 2024-01-15 18:15, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 2:46 PM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
On 2024-01-15 13:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
[snip]
FWIW, much of my most important supplemental authentication -- including a
number of government accounts
On 2024-01-15 19:03, Steve Petrie via talk wrote:
My 2 cents *...*
Subject:Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers
Date: 2024-01-15 11:47
From: o1bigtenor via talk
To: GTALUG Talk
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:56 AM Alvin Starr via talk
wrote:
[snip]
My 2 cents ...
SUBJECT:
Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers
DATE:
2024-01-15 11:47
FROM:
o1bigtenor via talk
TO:
GTALUG Talk
On M
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 2:46 PM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-15 13:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> [snip]
>
> FWIW, much of my most important supplemental authentication -- including a
> number of government accounts -- is done through an authenticator app which
> does not rely
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 1:08 PM Alex Kink wrote:
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> Not trying to be a smartypants. Genuinely curious regarding the following:
>
> Sending a secure email to my secure email account would be a start.
>
>
> What is the definition of secure email or secure email account in the above
> sentence?
On 2024-01-15 13:53, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
[snip]
FWIW, much of my most important supplemental authentication -- including a
number of government accounts -- is done through an authenticator app which
does not rely on SMS.
Well some authenticator apps may only run on phones but not all
On 2024-01-15 14:05, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 12:21 PM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
[snip]
Any chance for a link to that?
I would love to know the inherent insecurity.
I copied what I found into a doc that I have here.
Would have to dig for it - - - do you want it?
Not trying to be a smartypants. Genuinely curious regarding the following:
> Sending a secure email to my secure email account would be a start.
What is the definition of secure email or secure email account in the above
sentence?
> Except the preferrence is to gmail - - - to feed the
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 12:21 PM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-15 11:47, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:56 AM Alvin Starr via talk
> > wrote:
> >> On 2024-01-15 07:35, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>
> [snip]
> > Was not aware of this. As I'm
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:38 AM Evan Leibovitch wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:37 AM o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
>
>> One doesn't use a cell phone (well I wouldn't) but a cellphone number is
>> demanded to verify one's identity. Without a working cellphone connection
>> one is today - -
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:48 AM o1bigtenor via talk
wrote:
> > Multi-factor authentication via SMS is an improvement in security.
> > It is not the bee all and end all but it is better than just a password.
> > So I am not sure about your comment about privacy and security.
>
My preferred 2FA
On 2024-01-15 11:47, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:56 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
On 2024-01-15 07:35, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
[snip]
[snip]
Was not aware of this. As I'm now on a reasonable IP connection (previously
on fixed point wireless which is garbage imo)
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:14 AM Don Tai via talk wrote:
The current social assumption made by companies is that all people have a
> cellphone, all people know how to use them, and all people are almost
> always connected. This is not the case for much of our society
>
The statistics are not on
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:37 AM o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
One doesn't use a cell phone (well I wouldn't) but a cellphone number is
> demanded to verify one's identity. Without a working cellphone connection
> one is today - - - a NON-person.
>
OK, what other ways of verifying identity would
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:56 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-15 07:35, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> [snip]
> > One doesn't use a cell phone (well I wouldn't) but a cellphone number
> > is demanded to
> > verify one's identity. Without a working cellphone connection one is
> > today
On 2024-01-15 11:01, Don Tai via talk wrote:
The ostracization of the non-tech in society was quite evident at the
start of the pandemic, and then it got even worse. The elderly at my
gym could not book immunization appointments for pharmacies because
they refused to book over the phone and
On 2024-01-15 09:32, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
| From: o1bigtenor via talk
| > I have never used a cellphone to accesshttps://chat.openai.com -- this is
where I signed up for free and later where I upgraded to Plus. The process to
register is quite easy, I don't quite understand the
The ostracization of the non-tech in society was quite evident at the start
of the pandemic, and then it got even worse. The elderly at my gym could
not book immunization appointments for pharmacies because they refused to
book over the phone and told people to book exclusively through the web
On 2024-01-15 08:55, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
[snip]
Agreed - - - but how does one get the attention of this technical
elite to notify them that some of their basic
assumptions are just - - - wrong?
Their basic assumption is correct.
You are just a corner case.
We all like to think we
On 2024-01-15 07:35, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
[snip]
One doesn't use a cell phone (well I wouldn't) but a cellphone number
is demanded to
verify one's identity. Without a working cellphone connection one is
today - - - a NON-person.
I understand that you don't get the problem but then you are
| From: o1bigtenor via talk
| > I have never used a cellphone to access https://chat.openai.com -- this is
where I signed up for free and later where I upgraded to Plus. The process to
register is quite easy, I don't quite understand the issues you and Kevin are
having.
| One doesn't use a
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:14 AM Don Tai wrote:
>
> The current social assumption made by companies is that all people have a
> cellphone, all people know how to use them, and all people are almost always
> connected. This is not the case for much of our society, but from the
> viewpoint of
The current social assumption made by companies is that all people have a
cellphone, all people know how to use them, and all people are almost
always connected. This is not the case for much of our society, but from
the viewpoint of data architects, developers and tech companies, this is
their
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:03 PM Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 7:20 AM o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:06 AM ac via talk wrote:
>> >
>> snip
>>
>> > > And, it's just a generic LLM. I've heard experienced developers
>> > > saying surprisingly
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 7:20 AM o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:06 AM ac via talk wrote:
> >
> snip
>
> > > And, it's just a generic LLM. I've heard experienced developers
> > > saying surprisingly positive things about GitHub's Copilot for quite
> > > a while now.
> > >
On 2024-01-14 07:19, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Re: search engines - - - - to me they are totally frustrating.
If I'm asking for a search where I want terms 'a + b + c + d + e' well -
I'm looking for where ALL 5 terms show up. Not where any one term is or
any two (etc etc). So if one is
ChatGPT is very good at making up stories to amuse my female friends. Ask
it to write a love poem to a girl and she will be thrilled at the result.
There is no verification or source required. ChatGPT is good for chatting.
I find its Chinese is also very good. You can use ChatGPT to improve their
On 2024-01-13 10:30, Ron / BCLUG via talk wrote:
Alvin Starr via talk wrote on 2024-01-12 20:11:
It is defiantly not useful for getting correct technical answers to problems.
That's not my experience.
I guess that depends on the definition of "correct technical answers",
because it (i.e.
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:06 AM ac via talk wrote:
>
snip
> > And, it's just a generic LLM. I've heard experienced developers
> > saying surprisingly positive things about GitHub's Copilot for quite
> > a while now.
> > As for the SQL issue - all search queries on Qwant / DDG / Google
> > lead
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:30:29 -0800
Ron / BCLUG via talk wrote:
> Alvin Starr via talk wrote on 2024-01-12 20:11:
> > It is defiantly not useful for getting correct technical answers to
> > problems.
>
agreed. It is accurate when you provide it with code. or actual
copy & paste of something
It is possible that ChatGPT will give you a solution to a coding problem,
but I've asked it technical questions on (non-coding) such topics as
welding, and many AI hallucinations have been returned. References returned
are also non-existent.
It is not possible to say that ChatGPT can correctly
Just curious.
Microsoft has force-fed a Copilot Beta button on my Windows box next to the
search window.
Isn't this supposed to be a chatbot fine-tuned to developer needs?
Does anyone have experience with it?
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 3:42 PM Alvin Starr via talk
wrote:
> On 2024-01-13 10:30, Ron
On 2024-01-13 10:30, Ron / BCLUG via talk wrote:
Alvin Starr via talk wrote on 2024-01-12 20:11:
It is defiantly not useful for getting correct technical answers to
problems.
That's not my experience.
I guess that depends on the definition of "correct technical answers",
because it (i.e.
Alvin Starr via talk wrote on 2024-01-12 20:11:
It is defiantly not useful for getting correct technical answers to
problems.
That's not my experience.
I guess that depends on the definition of "correct technical answers",
because it (i.e. ChatGPT) can be excellent at giving correct answers
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