RE: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Same here. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:49 PM To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Crossing over to the other side Dear Pam, My

RE: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk
Dear Pam, My attitude completely! Ivan Cribb -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+icribb=iinet.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, 9 April 2017 7:39 AM To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Crossing over to

reinstalling WE

2017-04-08 Thread Charles Short via Talk
Hello, Window-Eyes says, "An active internet connection is required to check for Window-Eyes updates. My internet service provider (ISP) is Verizon. Do I need to reinstall Window-Eyes to so that way it doesn't keep telling me that an active internet connection is required to check for WE

Re: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Good advice, I like this! But that's just it. By my way of thinking, Window-eyes isn't exactly dead. It's not going to change for the immediate future, so to my mind, that means developements might be forthcoming, just not right now. I'm ok with that. On 4/8/2017 8:41 PM, Dave via

Re: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Dave via Talk
Hi Joe, For what its worth, there isn't much reason to be worried at this point. Today Window Eyes works with most programs, and no one knows if it will work with Future Software, such as, Office 2018, or 2020, or Windows 11, or12, or 13. But the real question for any of us is, does Window

all list members with jaws questions

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
Hi to all list members with jaws questions. this includes dave and brenda and mike. and all jaws switcher overs. I have a special jaws offer for all you guys wanting to switch over to jaws. if you want to know more, please email me privately off list at the email address below:

Orbit Reader 20

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Josh, Here's a page from the Orbit Reader 20 manual describing how to configure the device for use with Window-Eyes: http://tech.aph.org/or20/#Window-Eyes hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:00 PM To:

Re: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
when i tried it, it did not see the orbit20 as a braille display. and it did not see it as a refreshabraille when I put it into rb18 emulation mode either. On 4/8/2017 6:28 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Josh, I'm curious which braille display option you chose when trying to get it to work with

Re: braille displays

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
because when I want to use the orbit I just switch to NVDA or jaws. I mostly use those two anyway. also the orbit is nice and affordable. But the other displays cost thousands of dollars which is way way way out of my price range. On 4/8/2017 6:12 PM, Vaughan Dodd wrote: Because: the Orbit

Re: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
orbit20 prototype works great with Jaws and NVDA though. On 4/8/2017 5:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Oh, that sucks, then. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:33 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays and

Re: braille displays

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
are you gunna get the blitab 25 line full page braille display when it is out for $500? On 4/8/2017 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Because it is much better to have a full 40 cell line than a short little 20 cell line. That would be my guess, anyway. I don't like that my braille sense

RE: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Jo, Yes, -=all Office 365 components work with Window-Eyes. You don't need to be online to use the Office 365 components, except when you want to upload files to OneDrive or send and receive email with Outlook. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Josh, I'm curious which braille display option you chose when trying to get it to work with Window-Eyes. As memory serves, the best way to install a braille display with Window-Eyes is to run the Setup wizard. When you get to the braille display section, I believe it will attempt to

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk
Hi, In creaters, they have chnged the keystroke to windows+contol+enter. HTH. Matthew On 4/8/2017 2:49 PM, Jo Taliaferro via Talk wrote: Hi, I thought narrator was just windows and enter without the control key. Jo Taliaferro On Apr 8, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk

Re: braille displays

2017-04-08 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Because: the Orbit does not meet everyone's requirements, and because the tablet device isn't here yet. You yourself have just observed that the Orbit does not work with Window-Eyes. Simply because Window-Eyes is no longer being developed. So: why buy a display which won't work with the

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Because: we have to. On 4/9/2017 6:11 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Why does it seem that so many here are rushing to switch? I understand the concerns of having outdated technology, but even in a worst case scenario, WE still works. On 4/8/2017 12:27 PM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote:

Re: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Jo: his name is Mosen. Jonathan always communicates directly, and he uses technology differently to many of us. My suggestion is that you simply take his opinions as being valid, that they are just one very informed user's perspective on things related to how he uses this technology and

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I won't switch unless and until I have to. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 2:11 PM To: Charles Adkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dave Subject: Re: Crossing over to the other side Why does it seem that so many here are rushing to

RE: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Charles, I'd be interested in knowing how your neighbour's old Nash helps you to read your Windows screens. (smile) Perhaps it's head-lights light up the windows of your house? (smirk) Peace and long life, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Oh, that sucks, then. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:33 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays and we also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not work with window eyes even in

RE: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Nick, many of us have to work. Our preferred screen reader enables us to do this. Technology is changing, and it appears we're going to be left in the dust before too long. In my case, I am lucky in that I work for myself! As such, I can switch to whichever technology that catches my fancy

Re: braille displays

2017-04-08 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Because it is much better to have a full 40 cell line than a short little 20 cell line. That would be my guess, anyway. I don't like that my braille sense u2 only has 32 cells. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:28 PM To:

RE: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Bernie, When you upgrade to the Creator's Edition, please keep the new keystroke in mind since the old one you're using now won't launch Narrator. Good luck, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bernie

RE: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Pastor Gil, It seems that some on the list didn't read your email closely. You got the correct keystroke for Narrator. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Saturday,

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Bernie Perella via Talk
Hi, On my win 10 Toshiba laptop, the launch narrator key is just windows enter without the shift key. On 4/8/2017 11:30 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk wrote: > Hi. Narrator's launch command was changed a few builds back; it's now > control-windows-enter. Try it and report back if you still

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Would people stop sneering at those of us who have made the change. How do you know that people haven't made financial sacrifice? We might have had compelling reasons to change - that is - Window-eyes no longer meets requirements. Unfortunately in this life, if you don't pay - you don't

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Chris G via Talk
In the creater edition that some of us are running that should be out next week, Microsoft changed the key to control-windows-enter. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. http://www.MysticAccess.com Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology

Re: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Hi, I wonder what Jonathan Motson will have to say about windows creator or whether he will even update. Now, I am so confused I don't know what to do. I am not for Milyer with all of the programs and apps he has used. I have been a window eyes user since 1990 and I am saddened that it is not

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
When window-eyes quits, I'll go to n v d a. No jaws for me. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 8 Apr 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote: As I stated before , I'm going with the Mac. I can take my time learning it, and I will just do without a PC before I go back to the Shark and the

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Michael Capelle via Talk
no, in the new creator, you add the control key. -Original Message- From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 1:49 PM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition Hi, I thought narrator was just windows and

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Hi, I thought narrator was just windows and enter without the control key. Jo Taliaferro On Apr 8, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Remember, you've gotten the program earlier than the official release. There are going to be bugs, because it's a

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Tony C via Talk
As I stated before , I'm going with the Mac. I can take my time learning it, and I will just do without a PC before I go back to the Shark and the Shark breeders that make it. -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 11:27 AM To: Dave ;

RE: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
I cannot use orbit20 with window eyes. I can use orbit20 with NVDA, and I can use orbit20 with jaws. orbit20 works excellent with NVDA and it also works excellent with jaws also! the screen reader tells orbit20 to use dots 7 and 8 as a cursor under the character you are currently editing.

RE: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
the screen reader tells the orbit20 to show dots 7 and 8 directly underneath the letter you are editing. its just like a $4000 braille display it is exactly the same. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson"

RE: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
yes that is correct, there are no cursor routing buttons at all. but that is ok I can do without cursor routing buttons. when you are editing a word, the screen reader tells the orbit20 Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson"

RE: braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Joshua, I have not seen the latest prototypes of the Orbit Reader, but I assume there are still no cursor routing keys, is that correct? You said you can't use it with Window-Eyes, but have you used it with other screen readers? If so, what does it do when you have a cursor that moves when you

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Slightly OT, has there been any word as to when the free upgrade to Windows-10 will be discontinued? On 4/8/2017 10:28 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: > Remember, you've gotten the program earlier than the official release. > There are going to be bugs, because it's a build not meant for

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Why does it seem that so many here are rushing to switch? I understand the concerns of having outdated technology, but even in a worst case scenario, WE still works. On 4/8/2017 12:27 PM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote: > haven't gone over to the other side yet, waiting to see if any deals come

RE: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
I've read that article myself. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:31 AM To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: A great article for those considering a

Re: A great article for those considering a Mac.

2017-04-08 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
Thanks much for this. Evan -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:33 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: A great article for those considering a Mac. This is by Jonathan Mosen, a very experienced user of virtually every accessibility

Re: KNFB reader

2017-04-08 Thread Danny via Talk
It works but I find that it works best using narrator. Danny -Original Message- From: Charles Short via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:34 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: KNFB reader Hello, KNFB reader is available for Windows 10. Will it work with Window-Eyes?

braille displays and we

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the braille you see

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Don H via Talk
Any thing that is even similar to the old GW is gone forever. On 4/8/2017 11:27 AM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote: haven't gone over to the other side yet, waiting to see if any deals come up. Thought about downloading the demo and playing with it, but I'm not ready to give and yet smile I

braille displays

2017-04-08 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Charles Adkins via Talk
haven't gone over to the other side yet, waiting to see if any deals come up. Thought about downloading the demo and playing with it, but I'm not ready to give and yet smile I have heard no good comments at all about the jaws tech-support experience. I myself love the window eyes tech-support.

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Dave via Talk
Sorry, but I too have a "Lack of Cash" issue, and what I have will not be enough to go out and buy the latest edition of JAWS. I'm going to need to wait for a Super Upgrade Deal coming from VFO to all Window Eyes users.Something like a "Blind Convention" pricing would be nice. Other

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Chris G via Talk
control-windows-enter. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. http://www.MysticAccess.com Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology podcasts at: http://www.MysticAccessPodcast.com Join our free announce-only mailing list to receive product news,

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Dave via Talk
I think the Key Command to Start Narrator has changed. Sorry don't know what it is, but at least you know the reason the old command doesn't work has nothing to do with the installation, yur System, or you. Grumpy Dave -- Dave

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
Hi. Narrator's launch command was changed a few builds back; it's now control-windows-enter. Try it and report back if you still can't launch it. Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania Professional Pianist\/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Loy via Talk
Not experiencing these problems. - Original Message - From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk To: t...@window-eyes.com Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:19 AM Subject: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition Hi, The creator edition is pretty good, but I have 2 issues. First

RE: fat fingers and touch screens!

2017-04-08 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
time and time again, my company gets a package from National Pen; they're trying to get my company to have pens made for it with its logo, name, address, phone number and website. So, recently, they sent the sample of a pen which also doubles as a stylus! Curiously, two days ago, I elected to put

Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Remember, you've gotten the program earlier than the official release. There are going to be bugs, because it's a build not meant for regular public consumption. Unless you're a windows insider, it's not a good idea to install development builds unless you are aware of the risks and can get

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I've also been giving jaws a try. I noticed it doesn't say 1 of 100, 2 of 100 when arrowing up and down the message list in windows live mail. -Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 3:27 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing futureofwindow-eyes

2017-04-08 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
This is why I made the comment if there will be any future development of window-eyes. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 7:59 AM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing

Window-Eyes and Windows 10 Creator Edition

2017-04-08 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi, The creator edition is pretty good, but I have 2 issues. First narator won’t work when I press control-windows-enter, but it will work when I shut down narrator. The second issue is that Window-Eyes won’t speak when I am in the Windows Defender program so I have to use Narrator when in that

SSD Drive

2017-04-08 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Yep. Those SSD’s make a world of difference. My wife has a dell laptop from a few years ago with 4 gigs of memory. I put in a Crucial 275 gig SSD, and, the thing runs like a new computer. In fact, it runs a heck of a lot faster than it did when it came out of the box. I bet if I had put

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-08 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk
Well thats fine if you have heaps of money just to jump over to jaws. I have a old copy of jaws 3.1 and can not afored to upgrade it. I will put my hopes in window eyes. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:27 AM To:

RE: outlook 2013 anouncement problem

2017-04-08 Thread anthony borg via Talk
Hi chris I'm using outlook 2013 and usually when I send a reply email It normally announces that the email has been sent and even the time when it has been sent. Can you please explain to me what I should do to activate it again? Thanks in advance Anthony -Original Message-