RE: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1 - problem solved

[Jim Ruby via Talk]

Glad you have it fixed. Please ignore my previous email.


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Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1 - problem solved

Hi again all

Problem fixed.  One or both of 2 things solved it.

I unchecked a "use buffers" setting in the ports advanced settings, and
found that databits had mysteriously changed to 7 instead of 8.

As a separate bit of advice, Windows is quite capable of changing the
comport setting that will work with your speech synth without telling
you.  In the case of the USB to serial convertor, if your speech synth
won't work at all, go to the device manager and check the port number
it's using, which may occasionally change for reasons which I certainly
don't understand.

Good luck

-- 
Reg


On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 06:44:16 GMT
Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> My trusty Apollo II External, which I use when I don't want speech to be
> broadcast, works through a Prolific USB to Serial Convertor, which
> Windows says is "working properly".  The port number is correct, and the
> other port settings have not changed.  When I switch to this synth via
> the voice rotor, apollo just comes up with "Sigma9 0" ETC.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> 
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CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

[net bat via Talk]

HI,
THE KEYBOARD CAPITAL PITCH OPTION NO LONGER WORKS WITH W E 9.3 AND WIN 7 64BIT.
THIS IS WITH THE NEOSPEECH PAUL OR KATE , OR THE IVONA JENNIFER  VOICES. I CAN 
BAIRLY HEAR THE PITCH CHANGE WITH THE REED VOICE.

I REALLY DON'T  WANT TO CHANGE IT TO SAY CAPS. THIS WOULD BE VERY ANNOYING.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. 


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Re: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Yes Jim it was, and now it is again (see my next message).

Thanks


-- 
Reg


On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:55:29 -0600
Jim Ruby via Talk  wrote:

> Was this working under 9.2.1?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jim=blindsea@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:04 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1
> 
> Unless you can find ways to test the serial port with another speech syn,
> else with the settings of the device manager is the only way you can try to
> see which problem lies.
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2015 2:44 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1
> 
> Hi all
> 
> My trusty Apollo II External, which I use when I don't want speech to be
> broadcast, works through a Prolific USB to Serial Convertor, which
> Windows says is "working properly".  The port number is correct, and the
> other port settings have not changed.  When I switch to this synth via
> the voice rotor, apollo just comes up with "Sigma9 0" ETC.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> 
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RE: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

Unless you can find ways to test the serial port with another speech syn,
else with the settings of the device manager is the only way you can try to
see which problem lies.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2015 2:44 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

Hi all

My trusty Apollo II External, which I use when I don't want speech to be
broadcast, works through a Prolific USB to Serial Convertor, which
Windows says is "working properly".  The port number is correct, and the
other port settings have not changed.  When I switch to this synth via
the voice rotor, apollo just comes up with "Sigma9 0" ETC.

Any ideas?

-- 
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RE: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

[Jim Ruby via Talk]

Was this working under 9.2.1?


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jim=blindsea@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:04 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

Unless you can find ways to test the serial port with another speech syn,
else with the settings of the device manager is the only way you can try to
see which problem lies.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2015 2:44 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Appolo II Externa with 9.3.1

Hi all

My trusty Apollo II External, which I use when I don't want speech to be
broadcast, works through a Prolific USB to Serial Convertor, which
Windows says is "working properly".  The port number is correct, and the
other port settings have not changed.  When I switch to this synth via
the voice rotor, apollo just comes up with "Sigma9 0" ETC.

Any ideas?

-- 
Reg


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Re: WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!

[john pitts via Talk]

well i can’t get the upgrade at all, when i go to the help mainue and check for 
updates, it only shows window eyes 9.2, and the upgrade site is busted, all the 
best, john.

From: Peter Duran via Talk 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:17 AM
To: mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
Subject: WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!

Now, I can get the download started from the Upgrade option in the Help menu.  
However, after the "install new braille displays screen", I am told that I 
can't upgrade the currently installed version, which is the latest 9.2 version.

Peter Duran
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WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!

[Peter Duran via Talk]

Now, I can get the download started from the Upgrade option in the Help menu.  
However, after the "install new braille displays screen", I am told that I 
can't upgrade the currently installed version, which is the latest 9.2 version.

Peter Duran
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ie crashing on web pages we 9.3.1.0

[Jim Ruby via Talk]

Well was reading this weeks top tech tidbits and number 4 I believe it was
was linking to a web site that was talking about apple best apps for 2015.

I navigated to this page and press h to go to the first heading then used
down arrows.
1. got stuck on the first waypoint and could not navigate past
2. did alt+ shift f for search and lost speech

Restarted we, no speech.
Had to unhook and re hook triple talk usb then restart we to get speech
back.
Had to use task manager to close ie.

Hmmm?

If anyone else wants to see how their results go, the link is:
4) Apple announces The Best Apps of 2015 for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and
Apple Watch:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/54_weoo83EY/




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Changes in how 9.3.1 behaves

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Hi all
1
I find that the first word in a file or folder name is often repeated.
For example, I have a folder called Misc Christmas" and W-E will now say
"Misc Misc Christmas".

2
In at least some edit boxes, how I can read the box has changed.  For
example, in Winamp, when editing the tag information with alt+3, If I
enter a publisher in the "publisher" edit box, up and down arrows will
no longer read what I just wrote, whereas left and right arrows will
read it character by character, and the whole edit box will read only if
I tab out of it and back again.  
-- 
Reg


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RE: Problem with 9.3

[Steve Clower via Talk]

Hello,

In WE, go to Screen -> Punctuation, and set miscellaneous to off.

Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:31 AM
To: Window Eyes List 
Subject: Problem with 9.3

Small problem.  When there's an apostrophe in the text, Window Eyes says 
"apostrophe".  This is annoying.  How do I get it to stop doing this?  I looked 
in the control panel, but couldn't find it.



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Problem Upgrading

[Pastor Gil Pries via Talk]

Hi,
I tried generating the update and got a window-eyes error.
I next tried going to the web page from the Window-eyes update and got an error 
which is 500.

Pastor Gil
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Re: we 9.3.1.0 mouse navigation

[Loy via Talk]

In IE 11 and Win 7 can't move mouse pointer with the 2 key, just get a ding, 
In file explorer it works as it should.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Ruby via Talk" 

To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: we 9.3.1.0 mouse navigation


Hi, when I open internet explorer and file explorer under windows 10 x 64 
I
can read  by moving the mouse to the top of the screen then moving down 
with
the numpad 2 just fine. If I do this in reverse, move mouse to the bottom 
of
the screen and use numpad 8 I will just hear a beep and no movement 
happens.

Like the mouse is stuck.

This has been happening in previous version 9.2 under windows 10 too.



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Problem with 9.3

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

Small problem.  When there's an apostrophe in the text, Window Eyes says 
"apostrophe".  This is annoying.  How do I get it to stop doing this?  I looked 
in the control panel, but couldn't find it.



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RE: WE upgrade

[Don Smith via Talk]

Morning:

I noticed you upgraded from we 9.2 to we 9.3 and also you were running
windows 7.
I was told if you already have 9.2 on your system and you want to install
windows 10, after installing win 10, you need to install 9.3 over again
because of video drivers.  Is this true?

Andif so, do you justinstall 9.3 over againas if you were installing 9.3 for
the first time?
Don


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RE: Cannot upgrade this version of WE

[Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk]

Hello,

This is as far as I can go also..  In addition, after selecting the download 
button, I did not have any speech during the set up.  I had to launch another 
screen reader to read the set up dialogs.  When I got to the braille display 
upgrade option and selected no, I received the same message and WE froze. I am 
running WE 9.2.1.0 and have 2 SMA's on a Windows 7 64 bit computer.

David Ayers
Tioga county ITCS
56 Main Street
Owego, NY 13827
aye...@co.tioga.ny.us
607.687.8296

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ayersd=co.tioga.ny...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of John Farley via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Cannot upgrade this version of WE

All,

I too am suffering from the issue of not being able to upgrade to 9.3.1 from
9.2.1 as others have done.

I have tried it several times by different methods, but always the result is
the same.

I download a generated copy of 9.3.1 and this appears To be successful.
WE then requests permission to install, which I agree to.
The upgrade then starts, with a few questions.
I then get to the braille options.
It does not matter which option I choose, either to install the new braille
settings or not.
I am then told that I cannot upgrade the current version of WE 9.3.1 over
the currently installed version.

N.B. I have re-installed WE 9.2.1 to see if that had an influence, but this
did not help either.

What next?


Regards, John



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From: Talk
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Behalf of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:17 AM
To: Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)
Subject: WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!

Now, I can get the download started from the Upgrade option in the Help
menu.  However, after the "install new braille displays screen", I am told
that I can't upgrade the currently installed version, which is the latest
9.2 version.

Peter Duran
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Re: Cannot upgrade this version of WE

[Kevin Barry via Talk]

you are doing better than I am. I get to 100% download it, I enter my
password, and nothing. It is as though I never downloaded anything. There
is no downloaded file to be found. I have done this several times with the
same result.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, John Farley via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I should have mentioned that I am using a Windows 7 PC with all current
> Windows 7 patches.
>
>
>
> Regards, John
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley =
> btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com ] On
> Behalf Of John Farley via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:03 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Cannot upgrade this version of WE
>
> All,
>
> I too am suffering from the issue of not being able to upgrade to 9.3.1
> from
> 9.2.1 as others have done.
>
> I have tried it several times by different methods, but always the result
> is
> the same.
>
> I download a generated copy of 9.3.1 and this appears To be successful.
> WE then requests permission to install, which I agree to.
> The upgrade then starts, with a few questions.
> I then get to the braille options.
> It does not matter which option I choose, either to install the new braille
> settings or not.
> I am then told that I cannot upgrade the current version of WE 9.3.1 over
> the currently installed version.
>
> N.B. I have re-installed WE 9.2.1 to see if that had an influence, but this
> did not help either.
>
> What next?
>
>
> Regards, John
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
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> btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com ] On
> Behalf of Peter Duran via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:17 AM
> To: Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com )
> Subject: WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!
>
> Now, I can get the download started from the Upgrade option in the Help
> menu.  However, after the "install new braille displays screen", I am told
> that I can't upgrade the currently installed version, which is the latest
> 9.2 version.
>
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RE: ie crashing on web pages we 9.3.1.0

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

I just switched to the Tripletalk USB original and will run it for a while to 
see if I get the issue where it stops talking and I need to disconnect.

I think you may need to reinstall your tripletalk usb drivers or update them.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Ruby via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:22 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: ie crashing on web pages we 9.3.1.0

Well was reading this weeks top tech tidbits and number 4 I believe it was
was linking to a web site that was talking about apple best apps for 2015.

I navigated to this page and press h to go to the first heading then used
down arrows.
1. got stuck on the first waypoint and could not navigate past
2. did alt+ shift f for search and lost speech

Restarted we, no speech.
Had to unhook and re hook triple talk usb then restart we to get speech
back.
Had to use task manager to close ie.

Hmmm?

If anyone else wants to see how their results go, the link is:
4) Apple announces The Best Apps of 2015 for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and
Apple Watch:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/54_weoo83EY/




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RE: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

FYI,
Your message was written in all caps.

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:49 AM
To: via Talk 
Subject: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

HI,
THE KEYBOARD CAPITAL PITCH OPTION NO LONGER WORKS WITH W E 9.3 AND WIN 7 64BIT.
THIS IS WITH THE NEOSPEECH PAUL OR KATE , OR THE IVONA JENNIFER  VOICES. I CAN 
BAIRLY HEAR THE PITCH CHANGE WITH THE REED VOICE.
I REALLY DON'T  WANT TO CHANGE IT TO SAY CAPS. THIS WOULD BE VERY ANNOYING.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. 

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Latest Upgrade

[Linda Mentink via Talk]

Hi all,

There is a lot of traffic on this list about upgrading to the latest 
WE version. I tried again this morning, and lost the speech 
completely. The download was stopped because WE stopped working, and 
Windows was  going to try to fix the problem.


I'm going to hold off until either the site is less busy or the bugs 
are fixed, since so many here seem to be having problems.


I encourage you all to relax, and wait. I'm almost sorry I started 
the thread, not thinking about the server being overloaded.


Blessings,

Lindaad replyin

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RE: Latest Upgrade

[Roger Behm via Talk]

HI Folks,

I got my windows 7 computers updated this morning early around 5:30 am
central time and had no problems upgrading my licensed copies, except for
one desktop, which lost speech and I turned on NVDA and just re-started the
computer and starting upgrading again and things went just fine that time.

That is a good thing to  have the free NVDA as a backup screen reader.

I did yesterday upgrade with no issues my free window-eyes copies   on my
different windows 7, 8, and 10 computers.

MicroSoft has of course much bigger and better servers to be able to grab
the window-eyes 9.31 upgrade.

Just give it time, like Linda states in her email.

Regards,
roger Behm

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Linda Mentink via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:32 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Latest Upgrade

Hi all,

There is a lot of traffic on this list about upgrading to the latest 
WE version. I tried again this morning, and lost the speech 
completely. The download was stopped because WE stopped working, and 
Windows was  going to try to fix the problem.

I'm going to hold off until either the site is less busy or the bugs 
are fixed, since so many here seem to be having problems.

I encourage you all to relax, and wait. I'm almost sorry I started 
the thread, not thinking about the server being overloaded.

Blessings,

Lindaad replyin

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RE: WE upgrade

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

This is still true.  Keep in mind, Windows 7 video support doesn't work in 
windows 8.0 or 10.  This is why you need to install we over itself to install 
the correct video support for your operating system.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: WE upgrade

Morning:

I noticed you upgraded from we 9.2 to we 9.3 and also you were running
windows 7.
I was told if you already have 9.2 on your system and you want to install
windows 10, after installing win 10, you need to install 9.3 over again
because of video drivers.  Is this true?

Andif so, do you justinstall 9.3 over againas if you were installing 9.3 for
the first time?
Don


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Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Ron or Susan Denis via Talk]

Would it be better to install 9.3 before or after installing windows 10?  In 
going from windows 7 to windows 10, does one still need to reinstall window 
eyes after installing windows 10? Ron Denis 


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Re: Windows10 And Search etc

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Rick,

The search results being automatically voiced comes and goes. If you 
don't hear anything when arrowing down hit the read line hot key.


Tom


On 12/17/2015 11:29 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi:
Hitting the windows key I get a search box but it says search cortana.
I type into it but there is no list of items with the down arrow keys.
Tabbing I hear things about cortana, bing and I think news items.
How do I do a search as in windows 8.1 on something like "system restore"
and find the list of results?
Is there more setup I need to do in windows10?
Is there a tutorial on using WE 9.3.1 with windows10?
Oh ya, my eloquence sounds bad and I am trying to play with it to find
settings that are better but right here right now I would like to get the
search working as it did in windows 8.1 and not get all those contana, bing
and news items in the task thingy.
Rick USA

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[via Talk]

Yep, I just went and got the download the first time I tried. No 
frustration no problem, Using it now


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:23 AM
To: Kevin Barry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

I guess there are some who just have to be first. It's kind of like the
folks that have  been camping out at the movie theatres to be the first
to see the new Star Wars movie, even though the movie will be there the
next day and the day after that and the day after that and it is the
same movie that those folks who camped out saw.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

something similar happens on every single update and has for nearly 20
years. I guess it's too much to suppose that people might figure this
out and exercise just a little patience.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Michael Massey via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been
an exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After
each attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers
being jammed, I have shouted choice words which I will not put into
this e-mail.  Use your imagination folks  I have yet to miss
installing a Window-eyes upgrade on the day of release.  Have patience



folks.  .



Mike M.

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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.3.1

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Mine did the same thing, and then later on, I tried, but I couldn't get any 
farther than telling the computer yes, I wanted to make changes.  I forget 
what that's called;  oh: UAC.  Anyway, after that, it took a long time to go 
to the next step with the welcome and the changes it will make, and do I 
want this or that?  After I told it to go ahead and install, I got this 
message that I couldn't install this upgrade on my existing copy of window 
eyes.  I have 9.2, and it said it was supposed to be able to upgrade from 
8.4.  I tried that twice and got the same results.  It tells me I have two 
smas left.  So, I don't know what gives.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Linda Mentink via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Aaron Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.3.1

I have tried three times to get the upgrade. My computer keeps saying
"progressing," and eventually closes. What do I do? Call AI Squared
and get remote assistance? Thanks.

At 10:39 AM 12/16/2015, you wrote:
Get Built-in Optical Character Recognition and a Faster User Experience 
with Window-Eyes 9.3


Window-Eyes 9.3 is now available providing customers with the ability to 
recognize text from files or the screen with built in Optical Character 
Recognition. This version also offers a more reliable and stable user 
experience that will help maximize your productivity at work, home, and 
school.
Keep reading to learn more about the features and enhancements in 
Window-Eyes 9.3:


Extract Text from Files, Images and the Screen Quickly and Easily

*Recognize text in inaccessible scanned PDF files.

*Recognize text from images in .bmp, .jpg, .png, and .tiff formats.

*Choose from several different kinds of file types to recognize, 
including .txt, .html, .xml, and .zip.


*If Office is installed, you can also OCR documents ending in 
.docx, .pptx, and .xlsx.


*Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files can be recognized, including 
text found in WordArt to ensure readability.

All-New Read to End

*Read-to-end has been completely rewritten to provide the most 
responsive and accurate reading experience.


*When read-to-end is stopped, it will start again from the word 
that was last spoken to help save time and increase efficiency.


*If a Braille display is connected, Braille output will remain in 
sync with speech as documents are read aloud.


*Hot keys used to increase or decrease speech are much more 
responsive, enabling users to more easily read documents in the manner they 
prefer.

Microsoft Office

*Improved reading of all spell check dialogs in Office 2010, 2013, 
and 2016.


*Responsiveness of the Outlook 2010, 2013, and 2016 inbox under 
Windows 10 has been improved to make reading email faster.


*Outlook's conversation view in 2010, 2013, and 2016 is now 
supported so that users can group messages with the same subject enabling 
reading of all messages within a thread quickly and easily.


*If Window-Eyes was restarted while Outlook was open, message 
virtualization would stop functioning until Outlook was restarted. This 
issue has been fixed.


*When a PowerPoint slideshow started, and Window-Eyes was set to 
automatically read the entire document, only the content of the first slide 
would be spoken. This has been fixed.


*If the version of Window-Eyes for users of Microsoft Office was in 
use, and the Office 365 sign-in window was closed without first entering 
any text, Window-Eyes would crash. This has been resolved.


*Other miscellaneous fixes.
Mouse Improvements

*The physical mouse now reads UIA and IA2 programs, which improves 
the reading experience in programs such as web browsers and modern Windows 
apps.


*A hot key to continue a mouse search in reverse has been added.

*Window-Eyes can now read an entire line or only a word under the 
pointer as the physical mouse moves across the screen.


*The mouse can now be set to read instant, hover, or no echo when 
moving the mouse around the screen. If the user sets it to hover, the 
amount of time can be adjusted before the information under the mouse is 
spoken. This allows low vision users better control over what they hear 
when the mouse moves around the screen.


*Other miscellaneous fixes.
Other Fixes

*Responsiveness in the Windows 10 File Explorer has been improved.

*Quickly check the status of wireless network connections with a 
single hot key.


*Responsiveness for Eloquence, eSpeak, RealSpeak, Vocalizer, and 
Vocalizer Expressive synthesizers has been significantly improved.


*The WE cursor (which allows you to explore the screen without 
moving the mouse pointer) has been renamed to the invisible cursor to 
better reflect its functionality.


*The QuickStart Wizard has been replaced with a 

9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[via Talk]

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.  

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.  

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?  

Dave


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Re: Changes in how 9.3.1 behaves, now vanished

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Thanks Tom

By writing to Chris off list, telling him that this behavior went away
as mysteriously as it appeared, I inadvertently made work for others. 
Sorry about that.  As you suspected, restarting W-E fixed it.

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Reg


On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:01:24 -0500
Tom Kingston  wrote:

> Reg,
> 
> I can't duplicate either of these problems on my system. Folder names with 
> multiple words speak fine and up/down reads the edit boxes in the WinAmp 
> properties window.
> 
> You might want to try a reboot or reload of WE.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 12/17/2015 5:19 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 1
> > I find that the first word in a file or folder name is often repeated.
> > For example, I have a folder called Misc Christmas" and W-E will now say
> > "Misc Misc Christmas".
> >
> > 2
> > In at least some edit boxes, how I can read the box has changed.  For
> > example, in Winamp, when editing the tag information with alt+3, If I
> > enter a publisher in the "publisher" edit box, up and down arrows will
> > no longer read what I just wrote, whereas left and right arrows will
> > read it character by character, and the whole edit box will read only if
> > I tab out of it and back again.
> >

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RE: Windows10 And Search etc

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: OK, I found a search button there is evidently a search for windows and one 
for cortana, sometimes.
I typed System Restore in the windows search and it came up.
How\ever I had to hit the down arrow key then tab and tab back into the search 
window to hear the next entry in the list.
Hitting the up or down arrow keys followed by tabbing out of and then back into 
the search box will read one item at a time.
This seems like a WE problem.
I installed WE 9.3.1 this morning so are you having this same problem if you 
can get the search to work?
Also, hitting the windows key seems to open the cortana search and not the 
windows search.
Any settings to change this behavior?
Any settings in general to make windows10 more intuitive along this entire task 
line of things?
There are other things being displayed like a jump list or something but not 
always, just not sure about the layout as WindowEyes is reading it and what the 
parts are.
Rick USA

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Window-eyes Upgrade Problem

[Pastor Gil Pries via Talk]

Hi,
I went to the Window-eyes update page and entered my cerial number.  I got the 
message that the file didn’t generate properly.
I have tried this several times with the same result.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Installed windows10 and lost office 365 registration

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

I have a similar problem, where every time I update to a new build of windows 
10, my serial number is broken. I have had to have the tech-support team reset 
my license several times because of this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Steve Clower via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is a known issue with Office when updating to Windows 10. Repair your 
> Office installation and all should be well again. If you need help with this, 
> the Disability Answer Desk at Microsoft knows how to do it. In North America, 
> they can be reached at 800-936-5900.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: Installed windows10 and lost office 365 registration
> 
> Hi: How do I Register office again?
> WE is running in demo mode or was th\e last time I was trying to get windows
> 10 working properly.
> Also some window comes up when I reboot asking about my userid and password
> for work or school?
> The voice sounds diferent as well, perhaps I need to reset some settings but
> first I would like to get window eyes out of demo mode.
> 
> Rick USA
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Installed windows10 and lost office 365 registration

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: How do I Register office again?
WE is running in demo mode or was th\e last time I was trying to get windows
10 working properly.
Also some window comes up when I reboot asking about my userid and password
for work or school?
The voice sounds diferent as well, perhaps I need to reset some settings but
first I would like to get window eyes out of demo mode.

Rick USA

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Re: update problem

[via Talk]

there's nothing broken, just clogged servers, from everyone trying to 
download it at once.


-Original Message- 
From: john riehl via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:21 PM
To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: update problem

I plan to wait. If others are having this issue, I'm sure the guys at GW
will fix it.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:20 PM
To: 'George Brechman'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: update problem

Me, too.  I get the same thing.  What should I do?


Charlie Short

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of George Brechman via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: update problem

I have been trying to download and install the new 9.3.1 update.  The update
downloads and the update starts to install.  The problem is that after I
click no to the braille question, the program says that this version of
window-eyes is not valid for my copy of we.  I am running we 9.2.1 on a
windows 7 professional computer.
George

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Re: Changes in how 9.3.1 behaves, now vanished

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

No problem, Reg. If only all bugs were squashed this easy life would be 
grand. (grin)


Tom


On 12/17/2015 11:07 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

Thanks Tom

By writing to Chris off list, telling him that this behavior went away
as mysteriously as it appeared, I inadvertently made work for others.
Sorry about that.  As you suspected, restarting W-E fixed it.


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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Baracco, Andrew W via Talk]

I guess there are some who just have to be first. It's kind of like the
folks that have  been camping out at the movie theatres to be the first
to see the new Star Wars movie, even though the movie will be there the
next day and the day after that and the day after that and it is the
same movie that those folks who camped out saw.

Andy


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Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

something similar happens on every single update and has for nearly 20
years. I guess it's too much to suppose that people might figure this
out and exercise just a little patience.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Michael Massey via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been 
> an exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After 
> each attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers 
> being jammed, I have shouted choice words which I will not put into 
> this e-mail.  Use your imagination folks  I have yet to miss 
> installing a Window-eyes upgrade on the day of release.  Have patience

> folks.  .
>
>
>
> Mike M.
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Windows10 And Search etc

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: 
Hitting the windows key I get a search box but it says search cortana.
I type into it but there is no list of items with the down arrow keys.
Tabbing I hear things about cortana, bing and I think news items.
How do I do a search as in windows 8.1 on something like "system restore"
and find the list of results?
Is there more setup I need to do in windows10?
Is there a tutorial on using WE 9.3.1 with windows10?
Oh ya, my eloquence sounds bad and I am trying to play with it to find
settings that are better but right here right now I would like to get the
search working as it did in windows 8.1 and not get all those contana, bing
and news items in the task thingy.
Rick USA

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Re: Changes in how 9.3.1 behaves

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Reg,

I can't duplicate either of these problems on my system. Folder names 
with multiple words speak fine and up/down reads the edit boxes in the 
WinAmp properties window.


You might want to try a reboot or reload of WE.

Tom


On 12/17/2015 5:19 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

Hi all
1
I find that the first word in a file or folder name is often repeated.
For example, I have a folder called Misc Christmas" and W-E will now say
"Misc Misc Christmas".

2
In at least some edit boxes, how I can read the box has changed.  For
example, in Winamp, when editing the tag information with alt+3, If I
enter a publisher in the "publisher" edit box, up and down arrows will
no longer read what I just wrote, whereas left and right arrows will
read it character by character, and the whole edit box will read only if
I tab out of it and back again.


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Re: Cannot upgrade this version of WE

[matthew Dyer via Talk]

Hi,

What if you remove we 9.2.1 then install the upgrade ?  Just a thought.  
Perhaps aisquared will give some inside on this.

Matthew


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 6:03 AM, John Farley via Talk 
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> 
> All,
> 
> I too am suffering from the issue of not being able to upgrade to 9.3.1 from
> 9.2.1 as others have done.
> 
> I have tried it several times by different methods, but always the result is
> the same.
> 
> I download a generated copy of 9.3.1 and this appears To be successful.
> WE then requests permission to install, which I agree to.
> The upgrade then starts, with a few questions.
> I then get to the braille options.
> It does not matter which option I choose, either to install the new braille
> settings or not.
> I am then told that I cannot upgrade the current version of WE 9.3.1 over
> the currently installed version.
> 
> N.B. I have re-installed WE 9.2.1 to see if that had an influence, but this
> did not help either.
> 
> What next?
> 
> 
> Regards, John
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf of Peter Duran via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:17 AM
> To: Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)
> Subject: WE 9.3.1.0 Upgrade Still Broken!
> 
> Now, I can get the download started from the Upgrade option in the Help
> menu.  However, after the "install new braille displays screen", I am told
> that I can't upgrade the currently installed version, which is the latest
> 9.2 version.
> 
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Re: exact message for inability to install update

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I got the same message, too.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: john riehl via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:18 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: exact message for inability to install update

"This upgrade cannot be used with the currently installed copy of
Windoweyes". I got that message after I pressed "yes" in response to the
message about expanded Braille support.





John riehl



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WINDOW-ENES 9.3 QUESTION

[Stephen Thacker via Talk]

Hi, my comy of 9.3 is safely installed and after setting all new 
items in the jizard's setup, my browser has opened at a Microsoft 
page and I'm being asked/invited to use Microsoft Egge; does that 
mean that Windoj-eyes is now compatible? Hoj should I mroceed 
please?


Thanks, Steve
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wlm issue

[Gary Metzler via Talk]

Hi All,

I just updated to 9.3.  I am using windows 10 on an hp laptop.
When I open a message in wlm it used to tell me the number of links but,now it 
reads some of the message before telling me the number of links.  The windows 
is maximized.  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
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Windows10 Personalization Settings

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: What Control Panel Personalization sound and TaskBar settings work best
with WE 9.3.1?
Is there a WE Tutorial on working in Windows10 with recommended system
setup?
Rick USA

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RE: Window-eyes Upgrade Problem

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
What is your serial number again?


Thanks,
Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:56 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Window-eyes Upgrade Problem

Hi,
I went to the Window-eyes update page and entered my cerial number.  I got the 
message that the file didn’t generate properly.
I have tried this several times with the same result.

Pastor Gil
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

LOL same thing happened back in '99 with Phantom Menace.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:23 AM
To: Kevin Barry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

I guess there are some who just have to be first. It's kind of like the
folks that have  been camping out at the movie theatres to be the first
to see the new Star Wars movie, even though the movie will be there the
next day and the day after that and the day after that and it is the
same movie that those folks who camped out saw.

Andy


-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

something similar happens on every single update and has for nearly 20
years. I guess it's too much to suppose that people might figure this
out and exercise just a little patience.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Michael Massey via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been
an exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After
each attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers
being jammed, I have shouted choice words which I will not put into
this e-mail.  Use your imagination folks  I have yet to miss
installing a Window-eyes upgrade on the day of release.  Have patience



folks.  .



Mike M.

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Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I thought I read here that the upgrade (from 9.2) is free regardless.

On 12/17/2015 12:19 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:
Hmmm, this is certainly not encouraging. Almost makes me glad I can't 
get the upgrade just now due to a lack of SMA's.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- From: via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:33 AM
To: A I Squared Support List
Subject: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?

Dave




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Re: window eyes upgrade.

[Linda Mentink via Talk]

I notice a lot of repetative messages with the 
same problems on this list. Please, people, if 
you're having trouble downloading the latest 
upgrade, wait a few days or do it in the middle 
of the night when most users are asleep. It's 
been said many times here that the server can't 
handle all the downloads it's supposed to be 
doing all at once, so please chill out!


At 12:09 PM 12/17/2015, you wrote:
hi, when i go to the upgrade page i am 
told that i am using window eyes 9.2, and 
it’s the most current version, so what hades 
happened to the upgrade, i have also gone in to 
window eyes help section, and got the same 
thing. why is this? all the best, john. 
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RE: WINDOW-ENES 9.3 QUESTION

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

You still need to use Internet Explorer, Firefox or Chrome.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Stephen Thacker via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:35 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOW-ENES 9.3 QUESTION

Hi, my comy of 9.3 is safely installed and after setting all new 
items in the jizard's setup, my browser has opened at a Microsoft 
page and I'm being asked/invited to use Microsoft Egge; does that 
mean that Windoj-eyes is now compatible? Hoj should I mroceed 
please?

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Re: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

[Samuel Wilkins via Talk]

I am having the same problem.  I also can't get Window-Eyes to stop 
reading headings in read to end.  How can I solve these 2 problems?


On 17/12/2015 14:02, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

FYI,
Your message was written in all caps.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:49 AM
To: via Talk 
Subject: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

HI,
THE KEYBOARD CAPITAL PITCH OPTION NO LONGER WORKS WITH W E 9.3 AND WIN 7 64BIT.
THIS IS WITH THE NEOSPEECH PAUL OR KATE , OR THE IVONA JENNIFER  VOICES. I CAN
BAIRLY HEAR THE PITCH CHANGE WITH THE REED VOICE.
I REALLY DON'T  WANT TO CHANGE IT TO SAY CAPS. THIS WOULD BE VERY ANNOYING.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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RE: Latest Skype and W-E9.3

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
What version of the toolkit are you working with?
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:48 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Latest Skype and W-E9.3

Hi all

On this desktop machine, under Windows7, when I try to get to my list of
contacts in Skype with alt+1, there is an error in GW Toolkit, which is
"The Braille display is turned off".  Since I'm not currently using a
braille display on this machine, that's hardly surprising, and I've
never consciously configured Skype to run with braille.  Any thoughts?

-- 
Reg


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Re: MICROSOFT EDGE

[via Talk]

Edge is not accessible to any screen reader as far as I know

-Original Message- 
From: Stephen Thacker via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:09 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: MICROSOFT EDGE

Is WE9.3 compatible with Microsoft Edge browser now?

Compliments of the season to you all, Steve Thacker
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Gary Melconian via Talk]

Same here.got  the update.its very smooth.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:54 AM
To: Baracco, Andrew W ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

Yep, I just went and got the download the first time I tried. No 
frustration no problem, Using it now

-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:23 AM
To: Kevin Barry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

I guess there are some who just have to be first. It's kind of like the
folks that have  been camping out at the movie theatres to be the first
to see the new Star Wars movie, even though the movie will be there the
next day and the day after that and the day after that and it is the
same movie that those folks who camped out saw.

Andy


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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

something similar happens on every single update and has for nearly 20
years. I guess it's too much to suppose that people might figure this
out and exercise just a little patience.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Michael Massey via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been
> an exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After
> each attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers
> being jammed, I have shouted choice words which I will not put into
> this e-mail.  Use your imagination folks  I have yet to miss
> installing a Window-eyes upgrade on the day of release.  Have patience

> folks.  .
>
>
>
> Mike M.
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Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

Hmmm, this is certainly not encouraging. Almost makes me glad I can't get 
the upgrade just now due to a lack of SMA's.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:33 AM
To: A I Squared Support List
Subject: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?

Dave


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window eyes upgrade.

[john pitts via Talk]

hi, when i go to the upgrade page i am told that i am using window eyes 
9.2, and it’s the most current version, so what hades happened to the upgrade, 
i have also gone in to window eyes help section, and got the same thing. why is 
this? all the best, john.
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MICROSOFT EDGE

[Stephen Thacker via Talk]

Is WE9.3 compatible with Microsoft Edge browser now?

Compliments of the season to you all, Steve Thacker
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WINDOWS EDGE

[Stephen Thacker via Talk]

Heklo, seasons greetings to one and all - I'm using an Apex 
Braillenote and my fingers are not as sensitive as most.


Does Microsoft Edge work now with WE?

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RE: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

[Steve Clower via Talk]

Anyone who is eligible to run Window-Eyes 9.2 can upgrade to 9.3 at no cost. 
The presence of a software maintenance agreement makes no difference in this 
case.



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:33 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; dlh...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

I thought I read here that the upgrade (from 9.2) is free regardless.

On 12/17/2015 12:19 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:
> Hmmm, this is certainly not encouraging. Almost makes me glad I can't 
> get the upgrade just now due to a lack of SMA's.
>
>
>
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
> -Original Message- From: via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:33 AM
> To: A I Squared Support List
> Subject: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2
>
> Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.
>
> If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
> told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.
>
> A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?
>
> Dave
>
>

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RE: WINDOWS EDGE

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi Steve,
The short answer is no.
The longer answer is, Microsoft needs to put the accessibility hooks in before 
we can do our thing.
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Stephen Thacker via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:05 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS EDGE

Heklo, seasons greetings to one and all - I'm using an Apex 
Braillenote and my fingers are not as sensitive as most.

Does Microsoft Edge work now with WE?

Cheers, Steve
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WE 9.3.1 Upgrade

[John Farley via Talk]

The upgrade has now worked.
As suggested, must have been overstretched infrastructure.



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Window-Eyes 9.3.1

[Stanley Haupt via Talk]

Last evening, I was able to download Window-Eyes 9.3.1 on both computers. I
do like the changes and fast response of Window-Eyes.

 

I do have a problem in Microsoft Office for Word 2013. I have the blank line
feature of Window-Eyes set to say blank lines. It does not say it. There is
no speech from Window-Eyes whenever it encounters a blank line. Why is
Window-Eyes behaving in this way? What steps can I take to make this work
correctly?

 

Stanley Haupt 

Email: bookw...@ptd.net  

 

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Re: Latest Skype and W-E9.3

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Chris

I'm using the latest Toolkit but, again, I was a bit premature in asking
the question, because I took a look at the braille displays, and a
display was selected which I don't have.  Why this was a particular
problem for the Skype ap I don't know, but I tried to unselect it by
just going to "none" and saving the settings, whereupon the non-existent
braille display would come back and cause the error.  Eventually, I
realised that I had to "activate" "none", which sounds a bit
counter-intuitive, but I now know that "none" has to be activated to
make it stick.  OK, just in case anyone else goes through that.  Skype
isn't causing the error any more, but I'm still curious as to why the
braille display suddenly became a problem when I opened Skype.
9.3.1 is working well, and I haven't had any more of those crashes with
Firefox so far, for which I'm extremely grateful.

Thanks


-- 
Reg


On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:42:59 +
Chris Grabowski  wrote:

> Hi,
> What version of the toolkit are you working with?
> Chris
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:48 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Latest Skype and W-E9.3
> 
> Hi all
> 
> On this desktop machine, under Windows7, when I try to get to my list of
> contacts in Skype with alt+1, there is an error in GW Toolkit, which is
> "The Braille display is turned off".  Since I'm not currently using a
> braille display on this machine, that's hardly surprising, and I've
> never consciously configured Skype to run with braille.  Any thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> Reg
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Outlook 2013 and 2016 problem.

[Jim Noseworthy via Talk]

Hello Folks:

When I open a message, I am unable to cursor through the text in the body
unless I press the tab key first.  Anyone know what the reason for this is;
it doesn't happen in either NVDA or JAWS so it must be a WE issue.

Thanks all over the place gang.


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re: window eyes upgrade.

[Stephen Thacker via Talk]

Hi, go to www.gwmicro.com/update, put in your ten digit serial 
number, ignore what veriions it tells you you've got or what 
comes up, but, this is tricky so take note as it needs both 
hands: With the left hand on the upgrade button but don't press 
it just yet, but tb|e right hand on the cursor down key, press 
the left key first but press the other key as quickly as possible 
afterwards as this stops the brojser from going back to Google or 
searching for alternasive pages. ,That's the onkn way  I could 
get it to start downloading. It will ask you if you want to run 
or save, when you've pressed Alt r or Alt s, Close the browser 
window once you hear the machines pitch tones start getting 
higher that tell you it's downloading. After that, just listen to 
the machine.


I hope this helps, Steve

- Original Message -
From: john pitts via Talk 

RE: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

If you refer to  running the upgrade file again, no, you'll still need to run 
the upgrade file again.
Chris


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On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:17 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

I just installed Window-eyes 9.3.1 on a Windows 7 laptop.  Now that 9.3 
has been released, has the procedure changed when upgrading from win 7 
to win 10?

Don Roberts

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drives on a windows 110 pc

[via Talk]

I seem to be unable to find my drives on this pc. I know there is a cd/dvd 
drive but I can’t find it anywhere in any of the apps list ;or anything. In 
windows 8 there was a item in the start menu “this pc”??
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how to upgrade into 9.3?

[Jesse via Talk]

Hi gang.

   Simply put, I'm getting messages about the new release of WE 9.3 
which makes sense.  That said, how would I get from 9.2 to the upgraded 
version since WE 9.3 is already out?  Thanks.

Jesse

On 12/17/2015 1:37 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:

Anyone who is eligible to run Window-Eyes 9.2 can upgrade to 9.3 at no cost. 
The presence of a software maintenance agreement makes no difference in this 
case.



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Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:33 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; dlh...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

I thought I read here that the upgrade (from 9.2) is free regardless.

On 12/17/2015 12:19 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:

Hmmm, this is certainly not encouraging. Almost makes me glad I can't
get the upgrade just now due to a lack of SMA's.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- From: via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:33 AM
To: A I Squared Support List
Subject: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.

If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.

A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?

Dave



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choppy sound from WE.

[via Talk]

Hi, I’m running WE 9.3 Windows 10. I have an HDMIcable to my tv, when I choose 
the sound to go through the tv instead of the speakers that I have plugged into 
the back of the pc. The sound breaks up and sometimes just doesn’t speak. It 
was doing this on both the speakers and the tv. I went into to the sound 
settings and checked the box “disable all enhancements” this fixed the jproblem 
with the speakers, but when I choose to have the sound over the tv it’s still 
choppy. Any Ideas??
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RE: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

You need 9.2 to go to windows 10.  You can just install 9.3 after you upgrade 
from Windows 7.
However if you install 9.3 before upgrading to 10 from 7 you'll need to 
reinstall 9.3 over itself to install the needed drivers.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Ron or Susan Denis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

Would it be better to install 9.3 before or after installing windows 10?  In 
going from windows 7 to windows 10, does one still need to reinstall window 
eyes after installing windows 10? Ron Denis 

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re: choppy sound from WE.

[Stephen Thacker via Talk]

Hi, I had a similar problem some months ago and some new 
batteries and a simmle retune got rid of the problem. This might 
not do for you but it wohked for me.


Cheers, Steve

- Original Message -
From: via Talk 

window-eyes 9.3 and bookshare search.

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

try, and see what happens!  Is there any setting I need to change to 
prevent the "search" button from being pressed before I put any data 
in the "search" field?





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WE on a Microsoft Surface tablet

[Don H via Talk]

Looking at a Microsoft surface tablet running Windows 8.1 with a Atom x7 
Processor, and 128GB Storage and 4 Gig of RAM.  Will WE run well on this 
tablet or should I look at a better processor.  I know I will need to 
use a keyboard and not touch screen until WE supports touch.

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Possible solution to WE9.3 upgrade problem--unblock in file property

[manny via Talk]

Hi,
When I uploaded the upgrade file for the second time the upgrade file, 
in properties, I noticed that the file was being blocked by default.  I 
unblocked and applied, and the installation was completed without a hitch.
I hope this is the solution.Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a 
million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your 
friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** 
**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer 
specifications: Window Eyes 9.2, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, 
with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core 
drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver 
Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver 
Booster is a great program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, 
Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: 
Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, 
Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag

On 12/17/2015 8:09 AM, john pitts via Talk wrote:

 hi, when i go to the upgrade page i am told that i am using window 
eyes 9.2, and it’s the most current version, so what hades happened to the 
upgrade, i have also gone in to window eyes help section, and got the same 
thing. why is this? all the best, john.
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9.31

[via Talk]

Thanks A-squared. The new upgrade seems to be pretty smooth so far, I’m using 
it on a Windows 8 as well as on my new windows 10 machine. Both are responsive 
and working smoothly.
Tony C
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Re: WINDOWS EDGE

[Lynn White via Talk]

As a followup, whenever I open a .pdf file, Edge opens up.  I have the 
newest version of the Adobe Reader.


I'm not able to find a way to make Adobe the default .pdf reader. The 
Edge information says that when you install adobe, it automatically is 
the default.  Not here!


Thanks for any suggestions.

On 12/17/2015 12:40 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Hi Steve,
The short answer is no.
The longer answer is, Microsoft needs to put the accessibility hooks in before 
we can do our thing.
Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Stephen Thacker via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:05 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS EDGE

Heklo, seasons greetings to one and all - I'm using an Apex
Braillenote and my fingers are not as sensitive as most.

Does Microsoft Edge work now with WE?

Cheers, Steve
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RE: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

[Steve Clower via Talk]

The upgrade process is the same.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:17 PM
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Subject: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

I just installed Window-eyes 9.3.1 on a Windows 7 laptop.  Now that 9.3 
has been released, has the procedure changed when upgrading from win 7 
to win 10?

Don Roberts

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Re: sound

[via Talk]

Sounds like a driver issue to me -- driver for the hdmi, not the
speech.  Speech can bring out bugs that other sounds do not.


via Talk  wrote:

> Really strange. All the other sounds are fine through the tv speakers, but 
> Window eyes is still choppy. I I choose the speakers that are plugged in to 
> the back of the pc then the sound is no longer choppy since I checked the box 
> to disable all enhancments.  
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after Upgrading to 10

[Loy via Talk]

after upgrading to Windows 10 with WE 9.2 will I be able to get the upgrade  
with WE or will I need to download a full version  copy run it separate  from 
WE?
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Re: window-eyes 9.3 and bookshare search.

[via Talk]

Turn browse mode off by hand when in the edit field instead of hitting
enter, that will  work around things.

Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:

> try, and see what happens!  Is there any setting I need to change to
> prevent the "search" button from being pressed before I put any data
> in the "search" field?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Curtis Delzer, H.S.
> San Bernardino, CA
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Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I even tried in the middle of the night.  But I finally got it early this 
afternoon.  But each step of the way, it was very slow.  When it would have 
to go to the next step of the process, like from the download and UAC to the 
part with the setup, it took at least a minute.  And then it said window 
eyes setup, and sat there like that for a minute, before it showed me the 
information on the page.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:38 PM
To: Michael Massey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

I waited until the late evening and got in just fine.  Thanks for
borrowing from my supply of curse words.  I didn't need them anyway.  (lol)

On 12/16/2015 5:38 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been an
exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After each
attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers being 
jammed,
I have shouted choice words which I will not put into this e-mail.  Use 
your

imagination folks  I have yet to miss installing a Window-eyes upgrade on
the day of release.  Have patience folks.  .


Mike M.

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Re: drives on a windows 110 pc

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Here's how to put "This PC" on your desktop.
From the desktop press Control-Space to have nothing selected.
Press the Application key or Shift-F10 to open the context menu.
Activate Personalize. R is the shortcut.
Tab to the list box which should be on "Background" at the top.
Arrow down to Themes and press ENTER.
Tab to the Desktop Icon Settings link and press ENTER.
Tab to Desktop Icons Computer check box and press Space Bar to check it.
Tab to OK and ENTER, then Home and Enter.
Alt-F4 to close Settings.
"This PC" should now be on your desktop.

Hth,
Tom


On 12/17/2015 3:55 PM, via Talk wrote:

I seem to be unable to find my drives on this pc. I know there is a cd/dvd 
drive but I can’t find it anywhere in any of the apps list ;or anything. In 
windows 8 there was a item in the start menu “this pc”??
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Solved Microsoft 2013 Word

[Stanley Haupt via Talk]

Hello Everyone:

 

I solved my issue with Window-Eyes 9.3.1 not saying blank line between
paragraphs. I had to turn off the paragraph mark feature in the display
settings of the Word Options. Now the  blank line feature does work
correctly with Window-Eyes.

 

Stanley Haupt 

Email: bookw...@ptd.net  

 

 

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Re: window-eyes 9.3 and bookshare search.

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Curtis,

You cannot hit enter on the search field. This triggers the search 
button. There are two ways to go into the search field and enter your text.


When you're on the search edit box either by arrowing to it or hitting E 
to get there, hit Control-Shift-A to turn browse mode off.
If Automatic forms interaction is on, which it is by default, tabbing to 
the search field will automatically turn browse mode off.


Then type your search text and hit ENTER.

Hth,
Tom

If you have automatic form interaction

On 12/17/2015 3:38 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

try, and see what happens!  Is there any setting I need to change to
prevent the "search" button from being pressed before I put any data in
the "search" field?




Curtis Delzer, H.S.
San Bernardino, CA


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Re: window eyes on windows tablets?

[net bat via Talk]

if you're going to use the touch screen then none of them.
w e does not support a touch screen. you would have to use a external blu tooth 
keyboard.
it has to run on a intel c p u and have a full version of windows. if there are 
still tablets with a rt version of windows it will not allow you to install 
your own programs at all.
get one with 32gb of disk space or more. 16gb is not enough because windows 
would use 10 gb and you would only have 5 gb for your own programs.


-Original Message- 
From: Darren Harris via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:22 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: window eyes on windows tablets?

Hi all,



What would be a good tablet to run window eyes on and what version would I
have to start with? I'm assuming at the least version 9 of window eyes will
work on a windows tablet, but what preferences are there to getting a tablet
that will run well with we?

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FUrther Information about Problems with Window-Eyes

[Samuel Wilkins via Talk]

Hello everyone,
I have some further information about my problems with Window-Eyes 
version 9.3.  I said in my previous email that Window-Eyes is not using 
pitch variation in capital letters.  I have found that this happens when 
I am using NeoSpeech, which is my primary synthesizer, but I didn't have 
problems with it doing it in Window-Eyes 9.2, and it doesn't happen if I 
use Dectalk.  I am also now having a problem where I can't get 
Window-Eyes to stop indicating links and headings during read to end, 
and Window-Eyes is still crashing on some long websites.  Why is this 
happening?


--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

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Can now download and install the 9.3 update, Go Figure!

[via Talk]

Hello,

Yesterday, and Last Night, the 9.3 update would not install.  Would get
to the part where I needed to answer the question of installing the
latest Braille Support.  Choosing Yes, or No, would end the install and
the install would post a message stating the new 9.3 update could not be
installed over my 9.2.  

This morning, I attempted to download and install the 9.3 update again. 
This time it worked.  Why?  have no idea.Nothing was changed on my
end, but this morning, the install worked.  

So far, the only thing I have noticed is the Read to End feature dose
not work when I read Email messages in Becky.  

Anyone else have this problem in Becky?


-- 
Dave 

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No read to end in the Thunderbird editor

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Listers and the folks at AI Squared,

I have noticed that when in the Thunderbird editor that the read to end 
feature no longer works in 3.3 as it did in 3.2. Does anyone else have 
this issue, or is it just me. If there is any solution, please pass it 
along.


I do want to compliment you guys for finally making read to end track 
the cursor so well. This is a problem I always have found frustrating, 
and wondered so often just why it couldn't be done. But now it looks 
like it has, so I am just that much more a happy camper.


Thanks so much,

Larry
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RE: two things that are happening with the new version WE 9.3

[Jim Ruby via Talk]

I actually hear three or four descending beeps, then I hear the cord sound
that we makes when it starts and ends, did this in 9.2 as well.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jim=blindsea@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:38 PM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: two things that are happening with the new version WE 9.3

Hi

I suspect you're probably upgrading from a much earlier version of 
Window-eyes?  the assending piano sound has been around for awhile now, 
so that's probably what that is. these aren't beeps, this is an 
assending chord, to indicate that window-eyes is starting. there's also 
a decending one that plays when Window-eyes shuts down.  It's very much 
like the one heard when NVDA starts and shuts down too.  Other than 
that, I have no ideas why it might be acting the way it is.



On 12/17/2015 11:25 PM, crw via Talk wrote:
> Hello I did install the new upgrade yesterday. I have noticed when I 
> restart the computer  and when the computer starts up I get three 
> beeps: one hi, middle, then low in that order that happens when Window 
> Eyes 9.3 starts up why is this happening? Also when I go in the WE 
> control panel for example when I expand the screen section of window 
> eyes under voices it reads the first dialog, then when I tab around it 
> does not read the area where it says pitch, then after it says 3. It 
> just reads 3 and I do have everything set correctly so that it would 
> read everything and went in to the verbosity settings under menu and 
> checked whatever settings I wanted to be set was set. In order to make 
> sure I did not miss anything that window eyes was not reading out I 
> had to load NVDA to make sure I was on the correct area of the screen. 
> Has anyone experienced this? I also did merge all of my new set files 
> with the old ones. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you.
>
> 
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RE: Problems with Eudora

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

not so Roger, I am using it. with many servers, not dead.

At 02:57 PM 12/15/2015, you wrote:

Hi Eudora user,

Yes Eudora is dead if you are using A T or any of their older email
servers like sbcglobal or Ameritech.

I and friends of mine were using Eudora with XP or windows  7 or windows 10,
but after calling A T & T, they changed some of their settings with yahoo
and now no matter what, Eudora will not work. I am glad I still have Outlook
2003 and outlook express, or even becky works real well too.

Regards,
Roger Behm


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On Behalf Of Rock West via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:17 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Problems with Eudora

A few days ago, Eudora stopped working. It said the certificate was not
trusted but I could click "Yes" to trust it.  That did not work. Any
suggestions?
Rock West

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Re: two things that are happening with the new version WE 9.3

[via Talk]

This means that WE is notcommunicating with your video driver properly
-- try starting WE again -- not rebooting and see if things work better.

Chris Skarstad via Talk  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I suspect you're probably upgrading from a much earlier version of
> Window-eyes?  the assending piano sound has been around for awhile
> now, so that's probably what that is. these aren't beeps, this is an
> assending chord, to indicate that window-eyes is starting. there's
> also a decending one that plays when Window-eyes shuts down.  It's
> very much like the one heard when NVDA starts and shuts down too.
> Other than that, I have no ideas why it might be acting the way it is.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/17/2015 11:25 PM, crw via Talk wrote:
> > Hello I did install the new upgrade yesterday. I have noticed when I
> > restart the computer  and when the computer starts up I get three
> > beeps: one hi, middle, then low in that order that happens when
> > Window Eyes 9.3 starts up why is this happening? Also when I go in
> > the WE control panel for example when I expand the screen section of
> > window eyes under voices it reads the first dialog, then when I tab
> > around it does not read the area where it says pitch, then after it
> > says 3. It just reads 3 and I do have everything set correctly so
> > that it would read everything and went in to the verbosity settings
> > under menu and checked whatever settings I wanted to be set was
> > set. In order to make sure I did not miss anything that window eyes
> > was not reading out I had to load NVDA to make sure I was on the
> > correct area of the screen. Has anyone experienced this? I also did
> > merge all of my new set files with the old ones. Any help would be
> > wonderful. Thank you.
> >
> > 
> > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
> > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
> > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager
> >
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Re: Problems with Eudora

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

there is a very successful procedure to get it to 
work, you need to add the latest certificate to 
trusted via the certificate manager in both 
sending and receiving mail under either tools and 
personality, or just tools and receiving / and / or sending mail.
Make sure to add the "server" certificates, the 
ones on the top of your list in certificate 
manager, not ones you've already trusted.


At 02:16 PM 12/15/2015, you wrote:
A few days ago, Eudora stopped working. It said 
the certificate was not trusted but I could 
click "Yes" to trust it.  That did not work. 
Any suggestions? Rock West 
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Re: BBC Radio

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I think I am listening to it now with IE-11?  I turned Browse Mode off 
and found a button that suggested what Jaws and NVDA users should do.  
No advice for WE users, so I pressed enter and a news cast began 
playing, and now I am listening to music.  You can e-mail me off list if 
you like.


On 12/18/2015 12:21 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

Hi all

This is a problem that's been around for a while, and I wonder if anyone
has a solution.
Using Windows7 and, now the latest W-E, I've just been trying to listen
to this link in Explorer and Firefox.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06rwpnz


In Explorer, I see no "play" or "listen" button at all, but it will play
the short sound clips.
In firefox, I see no main listen button, but I do see a "listen in
pop-out player" link, which causes the Adobe Flash plug in to crash.
Incidentally, this also happens with NVDA.
If I close down the screen reader and reload the page, it will play, but
reopening W-E causes the crash again and all is silence.
Any thoughts?


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WE Video for 9.3

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

Dear Support,
I always  download  the latest WEVideo so that I can compile into a portable
copy but I can't find the latest 9.3 in the download section of the support.

Where can I obtain that?



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

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Re: two things that are happening with the new version WE 9.3

[net bat via Talk]

I get the beeps most every time windows loads. this is w e crashing. I guess 
because with me it tries to load 2 or 3 times before it gets to the desktop.
w e loads for the log on screen but I have windows set to by pass this screen.
this is one time when w e crashes. then loads another copy when it gets to the 
desktop.
I leve this setting alone because windows needs speech when you switch users.

From: Chris Skarstad via Talk 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:38 PM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: two things that are happening with the new version WE 9.3

Hi

I suspect you're probably upgrading from a much earlier version of 
Window-eyes?  the assending piano sound has been around for awhile now, 
so that's probably what that is. these aren't beeps, this is an 
assending chord, to indicate that window-eyes is starting. there's also 
a decending one that plays when Window-eyes shuts down.  It's very much 
like the one heard when NVDA starts and shuts down too.  Other than 
that, I have no ideas why it might be acting the way it is.



On 12/17/2015 11:25 PM, crw via Talk wrote:
> Hello I did install the new upgrade yesterday. I have noticed when I 
> restart the computer  and when the computer starts up I get three 
> beeps: one hi, middle, then low in that order that happens when Window 
> Eyes 9.3 starts up why is this happening? Also when I go in the WE 
> control panel for example when I expand the screen section of window 
> eyes under voices it reads the first dialog, then when I tab around it 
> does not read the area where it says pitch, then after it says 3. It 
> just reads 3 and I do have everything set correctly so that it would 
> read everything and went in to the verbosity settings under menu and 
> checked whatever settings I wanted to be set was set. In order to make 
> sure I did not miss anything that window eyes was not reading out I 
> had to load NVDA to make sure I was on the correct area of the screen. 
> Has anyone experienced this? I also did merge all of my new set files 
> with the old ones. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you.
>
> 
> Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
> Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
> Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager
>
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Re: Problems with Eudora

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

also, to add to your message which is quite good, if you've more than 
one personality, you need to do it under tools, personalities, go to 
retrieving mail, fix it in the way you describe below, and then go to 
"sending" mail, only if you've tried to send mail with that 
particular personality, otherwise you'll get an error.
If you do get an error by Eudora saying something like, "you've not 
sent mail using this personality, so no ssl data available," send 
yourself a message from that personality and try again.

The "server" certificates are what is causing the problems.


At 03:06 PM 12/15/2015, you wrote:
you have to add the certificate to the trusted certificates by doing 
the following:


as i mentioned in a previous message, if you have unsent messages in 
your out box, you must follow the same instructions as with checking 
mail only you have to do it with the sending mail catagory under 
tools and optins. should be the fourth catagory. checking mail is 
the second and sending is the fourth.

1: press alt+t for tools then o for options
2: press the home key then arrow down three times to sending mail
3: shift tab four times and press enter
4: shift tab three times and press enter
5: right arrow till nothing is spoken when pressing the right arrow
6: now tab 9 times to add to trusted button and press enter
7: now, using the mouse cursor if window-eyes or the jaws cursor if 
jaws and locate the done button and do a left mouse click there. tab 
three times to the ok button and press enter and once more tab once 
to the next o.k. button and press enter. this should fix the 
problem. if not, do the above but with the checking mail catagory.




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Re: WE 9.3 bug

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Hi Don,

Yes, I have the same  after restarting WE with ctrl-alt-w. Seems if the
we-control panel is open.
But I am using WE9.31 on win7 32bit and not on win10.

Regards, Marten

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 16:52:40 -0600 Don H via Talk  
wrote:

> If for some reason I use control alt w to restart WE WE reloads and acts as 
> if it is reading the WE User interface yet the interface is not open to the 
> point it is on the screen.  I am running WE 9.3 on a windows 10 system and 
> have we showing in the system tray and not on the task bar.
> Anyone else seeing this?
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RE: drives on a windows 110 pc

[Tim Grady via Talk]

I don't know if you have some sighted help but in order to do this procedure 
you need to use some inaccessible software. I forgot how I found this out but 
it is a common windows 10 error. Do a google search for "windows 10 error code: 
19". You'll find an article on how to fix the error. The inaccessible software 
I mentioned is something called drivereasy and will find the latest drivers you 
need and install them for you. You may not have to use the software. See if you 
can find the article.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+timfgrady758=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:55 PM
To: window-eyes 
Subject: drives on a windows 110 pc

I seem to be unable to find my drives on this pc. I know there is a cd/dvd 
drive but I can’t find it anywhere in any of the apps list ;or anything. In 
windows 8 there was a item in the start menu “this pc”??
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Re: drives on a windows 10 pc

[net bat via Talk]

no you don't, if you know your way around windows.
try searching for folder options. i am not on windows 10 now to try a search.
there is a setting in folder options. there is a list of options to hide or
unhide file extentions and empty drives.
when the cd drive is empty it will not show in the list unless you uncheck the
option to hide empty drives or leve a cd in the drive.


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Grady via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:40 PM
To: tch...@mediacombb.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: drives on a windows 110 pc

I don't know if you have some sighted help but in order to do this procedure
you need to use some inaccessible software. I forgot how I found this out but
it is a common windows 10 error. Do a google search for "windows 10 error code:
19". You'll find an article on how to fix the error. The inaccessible software
I mentioned is something called drivereasy and will find the latest drivers you
need and install them for you. You may not have to use the software. See if you
can find the article.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+timfgrady758=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:55 PM
To: window-eyes 
Subject: drives on a windows 110 pc

I seem to be unable to find my drives on this pc. I know there is a cd/dvd
drive but I can’t find it anywhere in any of the apps list ;or anything. In
windows 8 there was a item in the start menu “this pc”??
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Re: set files gone

[Doug Geoffray via Talk]

Microsoft no longer supports Office 2003 and just like we dropped 
Windows XP support when Microsoft dropped support for that, we have 
dropped 2003 support.  This is a product over 12 years old.  We can't 
maintain testing for such an outdated application.

Doug

On 12/17/2015 6:36 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
> The set files for Office 2003 have been removed.  Have to ask WHY.
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WE 9.3 bug

[Don H via Talk]

If for some reason I use control alt w to restart WE WE reloads and acts 
as if it is reading the WE User interface yet the interface is not open 
to the point it is on the screen.  I am running WE 9.3 on a windows 10 
system and have we showing in the system tray and not on the task bar.

Anyone else seeing this?
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reading headings in messages.

[net bat via Talk]

if you mean like it saying heading 2 or sub heading etc. there is a setting in 
verbocity /browse mode/headdings to turn this off.


-Original Message- 
From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:58 AM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

I am having the same problem.  I also can't get Window-Eyes to stop
reading headings in read to end.  How can I solve these 2 problems?

On 17/12/2015 14:02, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

FYI,
Your message was written in all caps.

Chris


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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of net bat via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:49 AM
To: via Talk 
Subject: CAPITAL PITCH GONE WITH W E 9.3

HI,
THE KEYBOARD CAPITAL PITCH OPTION NO LONGER WORKS WITH W E 9.3 AND WIN 7 
64BIT.
THIS IS WITH THE NEOSPEECH PAUL OR KATE , OR THE IVONA JENNIFER  VOICES. I 
CAN

BAIRLY HEAR THE PITCH CHANGE WITH THE REED VOICE.
I REALLY DON'T  WANT TO CHANGE IT TO SAY CAPS. THIS WOULD BE VERY ANNOYING.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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Samuel Wilkins

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WE version number

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
I am confused about the version number of the WE update just released.

In WE, Help, About, the version is given as, 9.3.1 yet Aaron, in the 
release statement, called it 9.3.  Also, I notice that many on the list 
refer to the version by both numbers.


So, which is it, 9.3 or 9.3.1?

Neville.



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Re: Can now download and install the 9.3 update, Go Figure!

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

This is why it always pays to wait a little bit before downloading.  I 
have a feeling a whole lot of people were pounding the servers and got 
incomplete downloads of the program.  A buddy of mine downloaded a copy 
of WE 9.3 yesterday, and in the middle of the install, I kid you not, a 
dialogue box appeared that said ready for next disc.  I've never heard 
of that, not since the days of running programs on a floppy disc. and 
that's been since the late 90s.




On 12/17/2015 5:01 PM, via Talk wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday, and Last Night, the 9.3 update would not install.  Would get
to the part where I needed to answer the question of installing the
latest Braille Support.  Choosing Yes, or No, would end the install and
the install would post a message stating the new 9.3 update could not be
installed over my 9.2.

This morning, I attempted to download and install the 9.3 update again.
This time it worked.  Why?  have no idea.Nothing was changed on my
end, but this morning, the install worked.

So far, the only thing I have noticed is the Read to End feature dose
not work when I read Email messages in Becky.

Anyone else have this problem in Becky?




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