On 01/27/2011 07:20 AM, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote:
On 01/26/2011 08:40 PM, Michał Borsuk wrote:
The bus service number 10 in Wintherthur is the most simple case you can
have. Absolutely no exceptions. See timetables of the two terminal
stations:
So there is yet another line 10 mixed at the
On 01/27/2011 06:56 PM, ant wrote:
Hi,
On 27.01.2011 10:49, Richard Mann wrote:
Thanks, Richard.
I think we've got three broad decisions:
1) Whether the use of stop area / group relations should be
a) widespread
b) exceptional
b
b, ideally with a definition to what cases those
On 01/28/2011 02:45 PM, Jo wrote:
Yes that's one option. I'm a bit reluctant to put in separate
relations for each direction unless someone actually gives me a
compelling reason to do so. I already have some ways with more than 20
relations, and I don't really want to double that
Potlatch 2 includes a display of the ways/nodes in order, and you can
move them about, but it doesn't currently tell you anything about the
member, except the id and the role (so it's pretty much a list of
random numbers).
I've raised a ticket requesting at least the member's name to be
2011/2/2 Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.com:
On 01/28/2011 02:45 PM, Jo wrote:
Yes that's one option. I'm a bit reluctant to put in separate
relations for each direction unless someone actually gives me a
compelling reason to do so. I already have some ways with more than 20
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it possible to add a way to a relation twice with Potlatch? And is
it possible to show that 1 way is part of a relation multiple times?
Yes. Oxford Bus route 9 now has a certain section of the Green Road
roundabout twice.
Richard
On 02.02.2011 13:04, Michał Borsuk wrote:
Let's just get down to differences, I say your proposal is too
difficult. I've already spoken well about its data integrity, but new
users don't care about it. We need something that is as good as yours in
data integrity, and as easy to grasp as my
On 02/03/2011 12:40 AM, Richard Mann wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Michael von Glasow
mich...@vonglasow.com wrote:
Hence, in most cases the extra node on the way is what I call courtesy
tagging - it makes things easier for the renderer (less preprocessing) but
can be automated. I
I propose we dedicate time/session for a bing tracing tutorial (how to
calibrate/re-align imagery, etc.)
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Trace away!
We can always correct things with data from on the ground. :-)
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:58 PM,
Sound good to me. I say we do it during the afternoon meetup. :-)
Anyway, here are my proposed meet-up places:
Morning: McDo Timog
http://osm.org/go/4zhTAkYwJ-?m
Afternoon: Baang Coffee (free Wi-Fi!)
http://osm.org/go/4zhSV_EQN--?m
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:07 PM, maning sambale
OK. So for those who can't attend the full day mapping can
participate in the bing session.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Sound good to me. I say we do it during the afternoon meetup. :-)
Anyway, here are my proposed meet-up places:
Morning:
2011/2/1 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
I know that at OSM we always used to say: If the layers are separable
then you can have different licenses on each; if not, then not.
Of course this would result in a map that can *not* be copied under
CC-BY-SA because it is virtually impossible to
Hi,
I have just left a meeting with representatives of my local concil
(Zaragoza, a Spanish city with 700.000 inhabitants). They have the
willing to provide transparency and open data to its citizens,
however, I have not been able to make a clear agreement to license
their data under
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:
On 02/02/11 16:15, Anthony wrote:
What is meant by content is unmodified? Obviously the printed base
map is going to be modified from the original database. So under your
interpretation, the part about the content
On 02/02/2011 05:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I think that in those examples, there was the concept of interaction and
co-dependency - the question of does the overlaid stuff work without
the map. So if you carefully place your photo or illustration at a
certain point in the map, and your photo
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
On 02/02/11 18:00, Peter Miller wrote:
And this one showing the location of the 'Trafford Law Centre' unless
the photo was also on a free license or moved so as not to obscure the
map.
On 02/02/11 17:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Clearly no rendering of any map is going to be unmodified in the
sense of having identical sequences of 0s and 1s to the database,
in which case there could be no such thing as a collective work
based on a database, ever.
For
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:
On 02/02/11 17:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Clearly no rendering of any map is going to be unmodified in the
sense of having identical sequences of 0s and 1s to the database,
in which case
On 02/02/2011 05:49 PM, Jonathan Harley wrote:
I don't see what print's got to do with it. Any rendering, whether to
paper or to a screen, changes the bits used; if you take that as the
Where multiple sources of bits are combined to produce a single new
work, that new work is a derivative
On 02/02/2011 06:47 PM, Jonathan Harley wrote:
I think we may have differing interpretations of the intent of the
license. Mine is that the license is supposed to allow people to use the
map in a variety of ways, online and in print, so long as any new data
is open and OSM is attributed; not
On 02/02/2011 06:39 PM, Peter Miller wrote:
So... you are suggesting that you believe that no one will ever be able
to overlay an osm map, or indeed an ccbya image with any image that not
available on an open license even if the context of the two images is
completely different?
The context
On 2 February 2011 19:05, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 02/02/2011 06:39 PM, Peter Miller wrote:
So... you are suggesting that you believe that no one will ever be able
to overlay an osm map, or indeed an ccbya image with any image that not
available on an open license even if the
On 2 February 2011 20:02, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
Indeed, I don't believe that there are any lawyers in the house! I do wish
that the Foundation would pay for one from time to time to help with general
questions like this which matter a lot to potential users of our
Hi,
On 02/02/11 19:39, Peter Miller wrote:
So... you are suggesting that you believe that no one will ever be able
to overlay an osm map, or indeed an ccbya image with any image that not
available on an open license even if the context of the two images is
completely different?
Yes, I am not
Hi,
On 02/02/11 19:47, Jonathan Harley wrote:
I think we may have differing interpretations of the intent of the
license. Mine is that the license is supposed to allow people to use the
map in a variety of ways, online and in print, so long as any new data
is open and OSM is attributed; not
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
On 2 February 2011 19:05, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 02/02/2011 06:39 PM, Peter Miller wrote:
Frederik has explained how it can be argued that BY-SA's private use
exception allows online mash-ups.
On 02/02/11 20:02, Peter Miller wrote:
I don't believe that a court would see it that way and it is a very
Courts have seen it that way in the case of Shepher Fairey, Jeff Koons,
Andy Warhol, Richard Prince, The Beastie Boys, and many other artists
and musicians.
unhelpful view for the
Peter,
On 02/02/11 21:02, Peter Miller wrote:
I don't believe that a court would see it that way and it is a very
unhelpful view for the project to take.
The whole attribution-and-share-alike thing is a very unhelpful
situation for the project but it doesn't go away simply because it is
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 02/02/11 18:49, Jonathan Harley wrote:
For print, yes, that's about the size of it.
I don't see what print's got to do with it. Any rendering, whether to
paper or to a screen, changes the bits used
The
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Nonsense. The person visiting the website doesn't give the
instructions to the machine. The person providing the website does.
If you wrote a website which intentionally caused the computer of the
person visiting it to overheat,
Hi,
On 02/02/11 11:24, Steve Bennett wrote:
Certainly that information is of use to someone, but I don't think OSM
should try and be all things to all people. For starters, we simply
don't have the manpower. In the Australian context, it looks like we
might be able to do better than Google
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
These things need not be, and have never been, global in OSM. If one local
community happens to have the manpower locally then it's great if they
manage to record all that detail, and we should be very careful not to make
dear list,
is there a website similar to this:
http://toolserver.org/~flacus/OSM/checkcrossing/spain/C03-spain-20110128.htm
where people with first-hand knowledge can provide names for streets and
buildings without using an editor?
for example, with a textbox and a submit button which updates
I believe that if one is tagging an area to imply that there is
contamination, one should cite an authoritative source. Having your
property tagged as potentially contaminated could lead to difficulties
in selling or refinancing the property. Even if a property was
contaminated, it could be
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
It is not, as you imply, a
reason for not agreeing to the Contributor Terms (these would still
allow us to go for CC 4.0 licenses)
It's not in itself a reason to not agree to the CT, but it does fairly
well eliminate most
Hi there Juan,
well you can simply use www.walking-papers.org to add informations by
penpaper. Another way would be to use www.osmbugs.org to add markers
with hints online. There are a few other services that offer direct
tagging for dedicated feature sets (www.wheelmap.org,
On 02/02/11 13:21, Rob Myers wrote:
On 02/01/2011 06:17 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Peter says that
I would consider the proposed resulting work to be 'two or more
distinct, separate and independent works selected and arranged into a
collective whole with the ccbysa content being used in an
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:
I think Peter is right - as long as
the CC-BY[-SA] content is unmodified, it can be assembled with other things to
form a collective work. The CC-BY[-SA] licenses do not say that they still
have
to be separate and
On 02/02/11 15:59, Jonathan Harley wrote:
By referring to a collective whole, it seems to me that the license is
asserting that such a thing can exist. I think Peter is right - as long
Oh I see, I didn't realise that's the wording of the licence.
That's an unfortunate turn of phrase then.
thanks, osmbugs.org is exactly what I was looking for.
regards
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote:
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] help from people with first-hand knowledge
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011,
On 02/02/11 16:15, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Harleyj...@spiffymap.net wrote:
I think Peter is right - as long as
the CC-BY[-SA] content is unmodified, it can be assembled with other things to
form a collective work. The CC-BY[-SA] licenses do not say that they
I have been following the discussion but have been in meetings today so
haven't been able to contribute.
I agree we can discuss at lenght what 'separable' and 'unmodified' mean as
abstract concepts but, as usual with legal contracts, the words will be
interpreted in a particular context.
It is
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Clearly no rendering of any map is going to be unmodified in the
sense of having identical sequences of 0s and 1s to the database,
in which case there could be no such thing as a collective work
based on a database, ever.
For print, yes, that's about the size of it.
Hi,
On 02/02/11 18:00, Peter Miller wrote:
The strict view expressed above by Frederick and others would mean that
it would be impossible to use osm mapping as a bacground for this crime
data as in the chart, 'Violent crime in the USA' unless the overlaid
data was also on an open licence or the
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
The strict view expressed above by Frederick and others would mean that it
would be impossible to use osm mapping as a bacground for this crime data as
in the chart, 'Violent crime in the USA' unless the overlaid
Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote:
is there a website similar to this:
http://toolserver.org/~flacus/OSM/checkcrossing/spain/C03-spain-20110128.htm
where people with first-hand knowledge can provide names for streets
and buildings without using an editor?
There is the Amenity Editor at
One of last year's Google Summer of Code projects was a simple web based
editor targeted at new users - see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2010/AcceptedProjects/SimpleMapEditor
.
It still needs some development, but it would be a good start for something
that has very
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:13 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote:
Risk assessment and hazards are also relevant.
The grassy area next to a steel mill might not be plain old
grass, who knows what has been stored there and what kind
of hazards, from chemicals to rusty nails are
Hallo mappers,
Ik probeerde net de routeplanner van open.mapquest.com en toen viel mij op
dat mijn thuishaven *Briljantstraat, Groningen, Grafschaft Bentheim, Aurich,
Groningen, Germany* (
http://open.mapquestapi.com/nominatim/v1/details.php?place_id=14356098)
heet. Oorspronkelijk dacht ik aan
Hi Everyone,
I have noticed that all the Gold Coast canals are taged with
waterway=coastline. I understand that the coastline should connect around
the coastline in an unbroken line. ie. should connect across the river where
it meets the sea. I understand the canals should be done with tag
On 2 February 2011 20:40, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have noticed that all the Gold Coast canals are taged with
waterway=coastline. I understand that the coastline should connect around
the coastline in an unbroken line. ie. should connect across the river
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have noticed that all the Gold Coast canals are taged with
waterway=coastline. I understand that the coastline should connect around
the coastline in an unbroken line. ie. should connect across the
On 2 February 2011 21:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you mean by canal? I thought they were saltwater...hence,
waterway=coastline is ok?
Should we tag salt lakes as coastline too using that logic?
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have noticed that all the Gold Coast canals are taged with
waterway=coastline. I understand that the coastline should connect
around the coastline in an unbroken line. ie. should connect across
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 February 2011 21:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you mean by canal? I thought they were saltwater...hence,
waterway=coastline is ok?
Should we tag salt lakes as coastline too using that
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes all canals are tidal saltwater, however I understood from the Wiki that
the coastline tag was to be used for the actual coast line only and should
be connected across river outlets etc. to determine the edge of
On 2 February 2011 22:05, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 February 2011 21:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you mean by canal? I thought they were saltwater...hence,
Just pointing out the flaws in your logic
Please refrain from doing so. It's not helpful, and just contributes
to the snarky atmosphere this list suffers from.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
Date: 3 February 2011 06:44
Subject: HOT for Cyclone Yasi
To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com, Shoaib Burq
sho...@nomad-labs.com, Kashif Rasul kashif.ra...@gmail.com
Cc: hot...@gmail.com
Are you all, or others
2011/2/2 David Kurka david.ku...@gmail.com:
Alexandre,
2011/2/1 Alexandre da Costa Medeiros ale...@gmail.com
Pessoal,
Estou fazendo alguns inputs de trechos que tenho de Campinas/SP através de
um app para iPhone chamado OSMTrack. Parece que funciona bem, os uploads
foram aceitos pelo
Em 2 de fevereiro de 2011 01:08, David Kurka david.ku...@gmail.comescreveu:
Tendo imagens de alta resolução do Bing disponíveis, vale a pena investir
em traces gps? (pessoas além do Alexandre podem me responder isso também!
:))
Vale sim. Esses traces serão úteis para fazer o alinhamento
2011/2/2 David Kurka david.ku...@gmail.com:
[...]
Tendo imagens de alta resolução do Bing disponíveis, vale a pena investir em
traces gps? (pessoas além do Alexandre podem me responder isso também! :))
Se eu não sonhei, eu li em lugar (Wiki do OSM, provavelmente) que
esses traces são bons até
Oi Kurka,
Eu e o usuário pablotc (ele está na lista?) também estavamos traçando
Campinas pelas novas imagens na virada do ano... Temos que retomar as
atividades por lá...
Fiz até alguns screenshoots do nosso progresso:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/claudomiro/sets/72157625835769191/
2011/2/2
2011/2/2 Claudomiro Nascimento Junior claudom...@claudomiro.com:
Oi Kurka,
Eu e o usuário pablotc (ele está na lista?) também estavamos traçando
Campinas pelas novas imagens na virada do ano... Temos que retomar as
atividades por lá...
Fiz até alguns screenshoots do nosso progresso:
2011/2/2 Leandro Motta Barros lmbar...@gmail.com
2011/2/2 David Kurka david.ku...@gmail.com:
[...]
Tendo imagens de alta resolução do Bing disponíveis, vale a pena investir
em
traces gps? (pessoas além do Alexandre podem me responder isso também!
:))
Se eu não sonhei, eu li em lugar
2011/2/2 Claudomiro Nascimento Junior claudom...@claudomiro.com
Oi Kurka,
Eu e o usuário pablotc (ele está na lista?) também estavamos traçando
Campinas pelas novas imagens na virada do ano... Temos que retomar as
atividades por lá...
Fiz até alguns screenshoots do nosso progresso:
usar source=survey.
a melhor forma de identificar isso, é através da tag source, certo?
logo, ruas com tag source=gps devem ter prioridade à source=gps?
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Complementando:
Se você *coletou os dados pessoalmente* andando na rua, de carro, bicicleta,
moto, a pé, etc, *source=survey*
outros valores podem ser: *source=Bing*, *source=Yahoo*, *source=IBGE*, etc
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Key:source
2011/2/2 c...@geobahia.net.br
usar
Hi, there !
Tks ever so much for your warm welcome.
Cheers, my new friends.
Arlete
2011/2/2 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com:
Arlete,
I transmitted your request to our contact at Spot Image earlier today,
just after receiving it.
But, from my understanding of how the Disaster Charter
Olá pessoal.
Gostaria de confirmar algo: se eu utilizar o plugin 'Turn Restrictions' do
JOSM para indicar as proibições de sentidos em um cruzamento, por exemplo, é
suficiente para que os dados sejam corretamente tratados pelos aparelhos
gps?
Se for vai ser uma mão na roda, pois ficar desenhando
Hallo Frederik, Claudius, Fabian,
danke für die ausführliche Erklärung und die Links.
Ganz schön komplex, was da alles im Hintergrund geschieht!
Erstaunlich wie schnell OSM ist!
Das beeindruckt Kursteilnehmer immer wieder.
Formulierungen wie keine 10 Minuten oder in wenigen Minuten passen
Hi,
gibt es schon irgendwo eine Karte, auf der man Windräder in niedrigeren
Zoomstufen zu sehen bekommt?
Gruß, Fabian.
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Mir sind zwei Karten bekannt, auf denen man die Windräder schon in
niedriger Zoomstufe sieht:
http://energy.freelayer.net/
http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1019
(leider sind beide Karten aber nur für DE)
Am 02.02.2011 10:36, schrieb Fabian Schmidt:
Hi,
gibt es schon
Hallo,
ich aegere mich ziemlich ueber die TMC-Daten in der OSM-Datenbank.
Ich habe nicht die Uebersicht, wer da alles dran arbeitet und dran
gearbeitet hat, also es besteht die Gefahr, dass ich jetzt einigen
ehrbaren Mappern auf die Fuesse trete, aber wenn's nach mir geht, muss
das Zeug
Am 02.02.2011 10:36, schrieb Fabian Schmidt:
Hi,
gibt es schon irgendwo eine Karte, auf der man Windräder in niedrigeren
Zoomstufen zu sehen bekommt?
Ich arbeite an einer Karte zu Kraftwerken und Stromnetzen. Es gibt noch
technische Probleme (siehe Thread Performanceprobleme bei Mapnik/SQL)
Hallo Frederik,
ich selber finde die TMC-Daten ganz ok. - auch wenn diese kryptisch sind
und für Menschen nicht verständlich... Unten sind noch ergänzende Worte...
Am 02.02.2011 11:10, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hallo,
Mir erschliesst sich der Nutzen dieser Tags nicht - kann mir jemand
mal
Hallo,
On 02/02/11 11:34, Fred Jelk wrote:
Mir sieht das nach einem grossangelegten Designfehler aus. Da haette
man von vornherein ein OSM-externes Mapping TMC-OSM bauen muessen,
statt praktisch die ganze TMC-Datenbank auf OSM aufzupropfen.
Da sehe ich dann das Problem, wenn man ein
Am 02.02.11 11:10, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hallo,
ich aegere mich ziemlich ueber die TMC-Daten in der OSM-Datenbank. Ich
habe nicht die Uebersicht, wer da alles dran arbeitet und dran
gearbeitet hat, also es besteht die Gefahr, dass ich jetzt einigen
ehrbaren Mappern auf die Fuesse trete, aber
Hallo
Solche kryptischen Dinge gibt es bei Importen recht häufig. Die
Hausnummern in Dänemark haben zich Tags, die man in OSM nicht bräuchte.
In Italien schwirren auch einige herum.
Ich verstehe, dass man irgendsowas braucht, um bspw. später Updates zu
fahren. Aber meiner Meinung nach gehört
Hallo,
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011 11:10:25 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hallo,
[ ]
Vielleicht kann mir mal einer den folgenden Vorgang erklaeren.
Da ist also eine harmlose Ampel in Dortmund, Node-ID 270090818, getaggt
als highway=traffic_signals.
Dann kommt am 31, Januar der User ruhri
Am 02.02.2011 10:53, schrieb Fred Jelk:
Mir sind zwei Karten bekannt, auf denen man die Windräder schon in
niedriger Zoomstufe sieht:
http://energy.freelayer.net/
http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1019
(leider sind beide Karten aber nur für DE)
Hi !
= werde vielleicht noch
Hi,
Fred Jelk schrieb:
Am 02.02.2011 11:10, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hallo,
Mir erschliesst sich der Nutzen dieser Tags nicht - kann mir jemand
mal eine praktische Anwendung zeigen, die diese Tags benutzt?
Wenn ich mich nicht irre, werden die TMC-Daten von openrouteservice
ausgewertet
Am 02.02.2011 11:53, schrieb Henning Scholland:
Hallo
Solche kryptischen Dinge gibt es bei Importen recht häufig. Die
Hausnummern in Dänemark haben zich Tags, die man in OSM nicht
bräuchte. In Italien schwirren auch einige herum.
Ich verstehe, dass man irgendsowas braucht, um bspw. später
Ich bin gegen ein Löschen der TMC-Daten.
Richtig ist zwar, dass relativ viele Information zusätzlich
gespeichert werden, welche nicht immer notwendig sind, da sie einfach
von einem Bot hinzugefügt werden können. Aber ein genereller Abgleich
ist nicht fehlerfrei möglich.
Marcus Wohlschon (der
On 02.02.11 12:33, Pascal Neis wrote:
ich wollte bei der FOSSGIS nach meinem
Vortrag auch eine Diskussion diesbzgl. starten, etwas
überspitzt: Macht es Sinn, wie (ob) derzeit die TMC Daten
in OSM eingearbeitet werden?
Ich kenne die Natur dieser TMC Daten/Location Codes nicht, grundsätzlich
Am 2. Februar 2011 11:10 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Wir haben fast aussschliesslich menschenlesbare Daten in OSM. Schnapp Dir
ein beliebiges Objekt, und Du kannst in aller Regel verstehen, was die Tags
daran bedeuten.
ich kenne die Details der TMC-Daten nicht, aber durch das
Hallo,
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011 12:34:46 schrieb Peter Wendorff:
Am 02.02.2011 11:53, schrieb Henning Scholland:
Hallo
Solche kryptischen Dinge gibt es bei Importen recht häufig. Die
Hausnummern in Dänemark haben zich Tags, die man in OSM nicht
bräuchte. In Italien schwirren auch
Hi,
Andreas Labres schrieb:
On 02.02.11 12:33, Pascal Neis wrote:
ich wollte bei der FOSSGIS nach meinem
Vortrag auch eine Diskussion diesbzgl. starten, etwas
überspitzt: Macht es Sinn, wie (ob) derzeit die TMC Daten
in OSM eingearbeitet werden?
Ich kenne die Natur dieser TMC Daten/Location
Hallo,
On 02/02/11 13:12, Wolfgang wrote:
Ich würde bei 1:1-Zuordnungen nicht einmal eine ID in die OSM-Datenbank
einfügen, sondern diese Verknüpfung in der extra-DB oder einer dritten
Verknüpfungsinstanz halten.
Sobald in OSM ein Node gelöscht wird, ist die Zuordnung für die Katz. Das
On 02.02.11 14:05, Pascal Neis wrote:
TMC Staus oder Verkehrsbehinderungen beziehen sich
im Normalfall immer auf Straßenstücke.
Das wäre auch mein Verständnis/meine praktische Erfahrung mit TMC. Und die gilt
es in OSM identifizierbar zu machen (IMO). Wenn dazu die Strategie des Taggens
geändert
Eine leichte Thread-Entführung:
Am 02.02.2011 11:28, Stephan Wolff:
Am 02.02.2011 10:36, schrieb Fabian Schmidt:
gibt es schon irgendwo eine Karte, auf der man Windräder in niedrigeren
Zoomstufen zu sehen bekommt?
Ich arbeite an einer Karte zu Kraftwerken und Stromnetzen.
Wäre toll, wenn
On Wed, 2011-02-02 14:19:50 +0100, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote:
On 02.02.11 14:05, Pascal Neis wrote:
TMC Staus oder Verkehrsbehinderungen beziehen sich
im Normalfall immer auf Straßenstücke.
Das wäre auch mein Verständnis/meine praktische Erfahrung mit TMC.
Und die gilt es in OSM
On Wed, 2011-02-02 14:22:50 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
On 02/02/11 12:34, Peter Wendorff wrote:
Das Wiki dokumentiert eigentlich insgesamt recht gut, was da gemacht
wird und welches Tagging-Schema verwendet wird.
Also offensichtlich gibt es da eine TMC-Datenbank mit
Am 2. Februar 2011 14:07 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Sobald in OSM ein Node gelöscht wird, ist die Zuordnung für die Katz. Das
funktioniert nicht, zumal man dann in OSM gar nicht erkennen kann, dass am
Node etwas dranhängt. Wenn ich einen Node in einem Straßenverlauf lösche,
Hallo,
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011 14:07:53 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hallo,
Natuerlich kann man das Problem umgehen, indem man aus OSM heraus auf
die externe Datenbank linkt - aber das skaliert nicht, oder im
Volksmund: Wenn das jeder machen wuerde ;)
Das sehe ich in diesem Fall komplett
Hallo.
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, 15:56:03 schrieb Wolfgang:
DIe TMC-Geschichte gehört zu den
zentralen Daten, die zumindest mit OSM eng vermascht werden müssen.
Routing mit Verkehrsinfo ist einfach Stand der Technik.
Aber ist nicht einerseits die Datenübertragung des TMC und auch die
On Wed, 2011-02-02 16:19:59 +0100, Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org wrote:
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, 15:56:03 schrieb Wolfgang:
DIe TMC-Geschichte gehört zu den
zentralen Daten, die zumindest mit OSM eng vermascht werden müssen.
Routing mit Verkehrsinfo ist einfach Stand der Technik.
Moin,
Am 02.02.2011 15:56, schrieb Wolfgang:
Hallo,
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011 14:07:53 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Natuerlich kann man das Problem umgehen, indem man aus OSM heraus auf
die externe Datenbank linkt - aber das skaliert nicht, oder im
Volksmund: Wenn das jeder machen wuerde ;)
Hallo.
Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, 16:35:38 schrieb Jan-Benedict Glaw:
Aber ist nicht einerseits die Datenübertragung des TMC und auch die
Herangehensweise wie die TMC-Codes definiert sind stark veraltete Technik
und wird das nicht in Zukunft sowieso anders laufen?
Veraltet? Naja, Das
Hallo,
On 02/02/11 16:52, Frank Gruender wrote:
TMC ist funktional direkt auf Navigationssysteme ausgelegt und nicht für
Mikrowellen und Waschmaschinen. Die Aktualität dürfte in der Regel
größer als bei Telefonnummern irgendwelcher Restaurants sein. OSM ist
gerade für Navigationssyteme und für
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