Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines Server

2014-04-29 Thread Ervin Malicdem
This is a great project Mark! Most of the specific Philippine tagging schemes can be found here. I use the same resource for the Garmin map I compile. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own

Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines Server

2014-04-29 Thread Mark Cupitt
Thanks Ervin Cool, thanks. Are these available somewhere in a Spreadsheet format?? I'm interested in the tags only and their values .. otherwise, I need to make one .. Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMap

[talk-ph] Taichi Furuhashi in Bohol for FabLab Asia

2014-04-29 Thread maning sambale
Dear everyone, Taichi Furuhashi of OSm-Japan will be in Bohol for the Fablab Asia Conference [0] and wants to meet local OSM volunteers. Is there anyone in the list? You can contact him in his fb account: https://www.facebook.com/mapconcierge [0] http://fablabasia.net/what-is-fan1/ -- cheers,

[OSM-talk-be] SOTM-EU

2014-04-29 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi All! It's only 7 weeks until SOTM-EU (http://sotm-eu.org/) and I want to advertise a little and hope some of our Belgian-mappers are going to join! *Where?* SOTM-EU is in Karlsruhe this year so not far at all! http://osrm.at/7cW *When?* 13-15th june *Who's going?* Me Jorieke will be

[OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guidelin e for guideline text. The Open Data License defines a term 'Substantial' which is then used in the License to define a threshold about when certain clauses come into effect. Substantial is a term defined in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-29 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: There are some moderate complicated edge cases caused by and there are some things that will not be possible with share alike and are not intended to be possible in the first place. The problem is the gap between what is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-29 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote: [ ... ] But it is a reality that [ fear of a Share Alike obligation(?)]* slows, or in some cases stops, adoption of/contribution to OSM. Slows contribution to OpenStreetMap? That sounds incorrect to me. ODbL and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-29 Thread Luis Villa
[Before addressing these technical legal issues, I should note that I represent the Wikimedia Foundation, not OSM/the OSM community. While I hope that in most cases the perspective of the WMF and the perspective of OSM are in alignment, OSM members and the OSMF should definitely seek their own

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Poole
Am 29.04.2014 18:56, schrieb Luis Villa: . Without commenting on/endorsing Alex's position, suffice to say that the vast majority of lawyers I've talked with about the license, including many with long experience in open software licenses, find the license difficult to interpret.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Poole
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of attribution, or rather lack of such. I don't think there is very much doubt about what the licence requires even given all the complexity of the ODbL, for a produced work it is: However, if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Luis Villa [mailto:lvi...@wikimedia.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:10 PM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial Reminder that Simon has pointed out here quite recently that ODBL claims to be a binding contract

Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible character LRM in some website values

2014-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Keepright and/or Maproulette are fine tools for crowfixing such things. Keepright is probably already picking them up, at it loads website tags and matches them to the other tags in the same OSM primitive. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible character LRM in some website values

2014-04-29 Thread Glenn Plas
On 29-04-14 04:33, John Packer wrote: Today I found out a /funny/ thing. It seems some values for the keys 'website' and 'contact:website' have a LRM character at it's end. That's not something good because it corrupts the URL. (example) On taginfo:

Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible character LRM in some website values

2014-04-29 Thread Glenn Plas
I tried fixing some in Josm, and I can confirm the LRM char is in the URL, but to make josm realise that there was a change I had to had a note tag, josm doesn't account for those special chars to determine changes and allow an upload. I opened a ticket with JOSM in this regard as it's not

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Invisible character LRM in some website values

2014-04-29 Thread John Packer
Bryce, As far as I know, Keepright will simply flag this as an invalid/dead website, which might mislead people into removing perfectly fine websites that were corrupted by this character. Glenn, In my case, JOSM noticed the difference and uploaded the changes. I am using JOSM 7000 on Linux.

[OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

2014-04-29 Thread Andreas Goss
I just stumbled over http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24b22n/bitmap_app_cointerestorg_openstreetmapcom/ So far it looks like menufy.com or someone else has been adding hundrets of restaurants with payment:bitcoin=yes to OpenStreetMap, even though most of those restaurants do NOT

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Poole
I would be less concerned about the bitcoin aspect of it, but given that the user is adding further information which is quite useful, it should be clear if he actually has permission to do so (and a valid source tag would be a good idea too). Simon Am 30.04.2014 00:17, schrieb Andreas Goss: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

2014-04-29 Thread Andreas Goss
Am 4/30/14 01:18 , schrieb Simon Poole: I would be less concerned about the bitcoin aspect of it I think that is a pretty important aspect considering that CoinMap seems to be pretty popular in the Bitcoin community. But if users end up going to restaurants where they can't pay with Bitcoin

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

2014-04-29 Thread Yves
Then the bitcoin aspect is more a tagging issue: they accept bitcoin through menufy.com only. On 30 avril 2014 02:03:00 UTC+02:00, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Am 4/30/14 01:18 , schrieb Simon Poole: I would be less concerned about the bitcoin aspect of it I think that is a pretty

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Michael Gratton
On Tue, 29 Apr, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: On 28 Apr 2014, at 1:53 pm, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: On a related note, what's the appropriate way to map suburb-sized areas that are partitions? A way for each suburb that share nodes along common borders, a

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it marks where the name should go for the boundary. - Ben. On Apr 30, 2014 12:11 AM, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: I noticed that as for many suburbs in SA, since I replaced the place=suburb node previously

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Ian Sergeant
Admin_centre. On 30 Apr 2014, at 6:11 am, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it marks where the name should go for the boundary. - Ben ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Ben Kelley
Thanks Ian. :-) On Apr 30, 2014 7:31 AM, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote: Admin_centre. On 30 Apr 2014, at 6:11 am, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it marks where the name should go for the boundary.

Re: [Talk-br] onosm.org

2014-04-29 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Fórum users: Brazil osmbrazil.zapto.orghttp://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=416552#p416552-- serviço no ar! (mas não divulgado, como sugerido) Em 27 de abril de 2014 09:57, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros alexandre@gmail.com escreveu: Quando chegar a hora nós discutimos

[Talk-de] Fwd: [talk-ch] OSM Mappers and developpers invited to the Randa Meetings 2014

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Poole
We (as in SOSM) have been approached by the organizers of the 2014 Randa Meeting if OSM developers would like to participate. I think this would be a good opportunity to work on some larger projects together, one that cam to mind was OWL, but there are sure to be others. If there are people

[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 197 22.4.-28.4.2014

2014-04-29 Thread wn reader
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 197 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2014/04/wochennotiz-nr-197/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] XML von einem Objekt exportieren

2014-04-29 Thread Markus
Wie kann ich von einem Objekt (ID bekannt) die Daten exportieren? (so dass ich sie mit einem Texteditor lesen kann) Mit herzlichem Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] XML von einem Objekt exportieren

2014-04-29 Thread Ralf GESELLENSETTER
Am 29.04.2014 19:07, schrieb Markus: Wie kann ich von einem Objekt (ID bekannt) die Daten exportieren? Spontane Idee: Objekt in JOSM in eine neue Ebene kopieren, diese als OSM speicher. Feritg. -- PGP/GnuPG: pub 1024D/E6DE0971 ___ Talk-de mailing

Re: [Talk-de] LKW Mautinformationen

2014-04-29 Thread Klaus-Geo
This post has NOT been accepted by the mailing list yet. Hallo Zusammen, ich wollte mal in der Runde fragen, ob man vllt. das LKW-Maut-Tagging überarbeiten könnte? Diesbzügl. auch eine internationale Kartierungsvorschrift festlegen könnte! Ich will demnächst eine Bachelorarbeit zum

Re: [Talk-de] XML von einem Objekt exportieren

2014-04-29 Thread Peter Körner
Hi Am 29.04.2014 19:07, schrieb Markus: Wie kann ich von einem Objekt (ID bekannt) die Daten exportieren? (so dass ich sie mit einem Texteditor lesen kann) Auf http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24774635 und vgl. Seiten gibt's unten einen XML herunterladen-Link. Lg

[Talk-de] Mapnik nicht für MOB AC und Oruxmap

2014-04-29 Thread tshrub
Hi, ich habe schon Mal geguugelt: es scheint sich in den letzten Monaten ein Problem bei der Verbreitung des OSM-Mapnik-Layouts ergeben zu haben? In meinem alten Orux (Androis-App) und im MOB AC (zum tiles runterladen) komme ich nicht mehr an die original Mapnik-tiles (nur das default-tile:

[Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Quindi riassumendo: - possono essere entrambi modelli di mappatura corretti Personalmente propendo per il modello capoluogo di comune come TOWN e frazioni come VILLAGE ANCHE perché nella visualizzazione della mappa - da ingrandimento 9 – compaiono i capoluoghi di comune e le frazioni con

Re: [Talk-it] wtosm

2014-04-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
2014-04-28 22:28 GMT+02:00 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Il codice di Cristian richiedeva pyspatialite ma avevo trovato il modo di sostituirlo con pysqlite2. Avevo creato un test per controllare se la soluzione funzionava anche sul server fmach. Cerca un mio messaggio con: Ricapitolando: il

Re: [Talk-it] Surface per lastricato

2014-04-29 Thread solitone
demon.box ha scritto: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/file/n5804472/IMG_4507_%28800_x_600%29.jpg che dite? pebblestone o gravel? Non trovo la foto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread solitone
Giuseppe Amici ha scritto: Quindi riassumendo: - possono essere entrambi modelli di mappatura corretti Personalmente propendo per il modello capoluogo di comune come TOWN e frazioni come VILLAGE ANCHE perché nella visualizzazione della mappa - da ingrandimento 9 – compaiono i capoluoghi

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread aborruso
Francesco Piero Paolicelli wrote Rimango dell'idea che la parte foto/video si trainante per la diffusione. E sono d'accordo. Anche per questo sto usando Mapillary, e mi faccio lo streetview di un giardino pubblico: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/AZycU1UZhWJLxBh6GYfUxw L'app mobile è sia per

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
On 29 April 2014 09:20, aborruso aborr...@gmail.com wrote: Francesco Piero Paolicelli wrote Rimango dell'idea che la parte foto/video si trainante per la diffusione. E sono d'accordo. Anche per questo sto usando Mapillary, e mi faccio lo streetview di un giardino pubblico:

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread aborruso
Ciao Luca, Luca Delucchi wrote Giusto per segnalare che i dati (in special modo le foto) di Mapillary non sono liberi, la licenza infatti vieta di utilizzare le immagini che scopi commerciali... è vero, ma l'ho segnalato in risposta a un post su Google. Chiedo venia :) - Andrea

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
2014-04-29 9:26 GMT+02:00 aborruso aborr...@gmail.com: Ciao Luca, Ciao Andrea, Luca Delucchi wrote Giusto per segnalare che i dati (in special modo le foto) di Mapillary non sono liberi, la licenza infatti vieta di utilizzare le immagini che scopi commerciali... è vero, ma l'ho

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Il 29/apr/2014 09:29 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2014-04-29 9:26 GMT+02:00 aborruso aborr...@gmail.com: Ciao Luca, Ciao Andrea, Luca Delucchi wrote Giusto per segnalare che i dati (in special modo le foto) di Mapillary non sono liberi, la licenza infatti vieta

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli
+1 Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 29/apr/2014, alle ore 09:20, aborruso aborr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Francesco Piero Paolicelli wrote Rimango dell'idea che la parte foto/video si trainante per la diffusione. E sono d'accordo. Anche per questo sto usando Mapillary, e mi faccio lo

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 29 aprile 2014 09:09, solitone solit...@mail.com ha scritto: Giuseppe Amici ha scritto: Quindi riassumendo: - possono essere entrambi modelli di mappatura corretti Personalmente propendo per il modello capoluogo di comune come TOWN e frazioni come VILLAGE ANCHE perché

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread solitone
Simone Saviolo ha scritto: Basta! Non ne posso più di queste discussioni sui place... si ripropongono periodicamente come dei formidabili peperoni, e non si arriva mai da nessuna parte. In generale, l'importanza geografica di una località è VAGAMENTE correlata al numero di abitanti. È

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Il giorno 29 aprile 2014 10:17, solitone solit...@mail.com ha scritto: Ma perché non integri il wiki (inglese e italiano) con queste tue considerazioni, in modo da rendere noti a tutti i buoni criteri da seguire che proponi? Altrimenti la cosa resta tra noi e non è molto utile. +1 Lo

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Alessandro Rubini
Basta! Non ne posso piu` di queste discussioni sui place... [...] Grazie simone. Sono completamente d'accordo, da utente abituale di cartografia, pur senza una preparazione specifica sulla tecnologia moderna. A volte leggendo questa lista sembra proprio che si perda il senso del mondo reale

Re: [Talk-it] R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 29 aprile 2014 10:17, solitone solit...@mail.com ha scritto: Simone Saviolo ha scritto: Basta! Non ne posso più di queste discussioni sui place... si ripropongono periodicamente come dei formidabili peperoni, e non si arriva mai da nessuna parte. In generale, l'importanza

Re: [Talk-it] Surface per lastricato

2014-04-29 Thread demon.box
scusa riprovo. http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/file/n5804511/IMG_4507_%281024_x_768%29.jpg dimmi x favore se ora si vede. grazie, ciao --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Surface-per-lastricato-tp5804308p5804511.html Sent from the Italy General mailing

Re: [Talk-it] Surface per lastricato

2014-04-29 Thread solitone
demon.box ha scritto: scusa riprovo. http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/file/n5804511/IMG_4507_%281024_x_768%29.jpg dimmi x favore se ora si vede. Sì, si vede. Io questa la considererei gravel, anche se le dimensioni sono un po' troppo grandi, dato che pebblestone fa pensare a sassi

[Talk-it] R: R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Vedo che viene omessa in toto il nocciuolo della questione: Ovvero che la traduzione dall’inglese di TOWN è sia Citta che Paese. Sarebbe bello come fa qualcuno dire “BASTA!” e con un colpo di spugna cancellare le discussioni. Il fatto che le discussioni si riaccendano dovrebbe invece suggerire

[Talk-it] Violazioni

2014-04-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
Per chi non lo avesse letto http://openstreetmap.it/2014/04/attribuzione-e-arrivata-lora-di-fare-i-nomi-di-chi-sgarra/ Abbiamo pubblicato la risposta di Steve alle critiche sull'attuale licenza e sulla necessità di far rispettare sia la clausola di sharealike che di atrribution. -- Sent from

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread solitone
Giuseppe Amici ha scritto: Vedo che viene omessa in toto il nocciuolo della questione: Ovvero che la traduzione dallinglese di TOWN sia Citta che Paese. Il problema che in

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 29 aprile 2014 13:08, Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.itha scritto: Vedo che viene omessa in toto il nocciuolo della questione: Ovvero che la traduzione dall’inglese di TOWN è sia Citta che Paese. E la traduzione di village è villaggio. Chi abita più nei villaggi nel Duemila?

[Talk-it] conferenza SOTM: early bird in chiusura

2014-04-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
Carissimi, alla fine del mese, la registrazione early bird per SOTM-EU (a 55euro) finirà. Dopo di che il prezzo del biglietto sarà 80euro. http://www.sotm-eu.org/ Vi aspettiamo a Karlsruhe! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Surface per lastricato

2014-04-29 Thread girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 29/04/2014 11:05, solitone ha scritto: demon.box ha scritto: scusa riprovo. http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/file/n5804511/IMG_4507_%281024_x_768%29.jpg dimmi x favore se ora si vede. Sì, si vede. Io questa la considererei gravel,

Re: [Talk-it] Violazioni

2014-04-29 Thread Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi
+ 1milione On Apr 29, 2014 2:44 PM, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: Per chi non lo avesse letto http://openstreetmap.it/2014/04/attribuzione-e-arrivata-lora-di-fare-i-nomi-di-chi-sgarra/ Abbiamo pubblicato la risposta di Steve alle critiche sull'attuale licenza e sulla necessità

Re: [Talk-it] Violazioni

2014-04-29 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Era ora. Adesso ci dedichiamo a quei buzzurri che importano dati con licenza incompatibile? Ciao /niubii/ Il 29/apr/2014 13:44 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: Per chi non lo avesse letto

[Talk-it] Obiettivi sensibili

2014-04-29 Thread sabas88
Ciao, c'è qualche dichiarazione da qualche parte riguardante dati OSM che rappresentano obiettivi sensibili, tipo aree militari e simili? Intendo cose che tirano in ballo sicurezza nazionale e affini. Si mappa quello che si vede? Grazie, Stefano ___

Re: [Talk-it] wtosm

2014-04-29 Thread Simone F.
Il giorno 29 aprile 2014 08:41, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2014-04-28 22:28 GMT+02:00 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Quella scritta dovrebbe comparire solo usando l'opzione -n ma, come ha detto Cristian, sarebbe meglio usarla solo di tanto in tanto. Se ben ricordo

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: Luca Delucchi [mailto:lucadel...@gmail.com] Sent: martedì 29 aprile 2014 09:24 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View Giusto per segnalare che i dati (in special modo le foto) di Mapillary

Re: [Talk-it] Obiettivi sensibili

2014-04-29 Thread Leonardo
Relinko la discussione del 2012, potremmo ripartire a parlarne da qui: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-October/031203.html Leonardo Il 29/04/2014 20:55, sabas88 ha scritto: Ciao, c'è qualche dichiarazione da qualche parte riguardante dati OSM che rappresentano

Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street View

2014-04-29 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 29/apr/2014 21:29 Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it ha scritto: -Original Message- From: Luca Delucchi [mailto:lucadel...@gmail.com] Sent: martedì 29 aprile 2014 09:24 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Official Google Blog: Go back in time with Street

[Talk-it] Fwd: Wikimedia Foundation OpenStreetMap nel piano annuale WMF

2014-04-29 Thread Cristian Consonni
Ciao, volevo farvi notare questo passaggio del (la bozza del) piano annuale di Wikimedia Foundation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form il piano comprende una significativa espansione del team di Engineering[1], con un aumento

[Talk-it] R: R: R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Ringrazio tutti, per il loro tempo e per la loro saggezza. Ritornino pure alle loro discussioni preferite. Beppe Da: Simone Saviolo [mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com] Inviato: martedì 29 aprile 2014 15:42 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: R: TOWN VILLAGE Il

[Talk-it] R: R: R: TOWN VILLAGE

2014-04-29 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Ringrazio Pelullo che mi ha fatto sorridere. Il 29/apr/2014 13:09 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it ha scritto: Una buona giornata. Amen. :-) :-( Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Violazioni

2014-04-29 Thread Francesca Valentina
Grandi! Il 29/apr/2014 13:44 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: Per chi non lo avesse letto http://openstreetmap.it/2014/04/attribuzione-e-arrivata-lora-di-fare-i-nomi-di-chi-sgarra/ Abbiamo pubblicato la risposta di Steve alle critiche sull'attuale licenza e sulla necessità di

[Talk-se] Relationer och Sörmlandsleden

2014-04-29 Thread Claes Holmerson
Hej, Jag heter Claes och har ganska nyligen börjat intressera mig för OpenStreetMap. Jag har gjort några smärre tillägg och ville sen pussla ihop delar av Sörmlandsleden som inte var sorterade till etapper än. Sörmlandsleden (197845) har en rad relations för vissa etapper, men också lösa

Re: [Talk-se] Relationer och Sörmlandsleden

2014-04-29 Thread Ture Pålsson
29 apr 2014 kl. 18.37 skrev Claes Holmerson: Hej, Jag heter Claes och har ganska nyligen börjat intressera mig för OpenStreetMap. Jag har gjort några smärre tillägg och ville sen pussla ihop delar av Sörmlandsleden som inte var sorterade till etapper än. Sörmlandsleden (197845) har en

Re: [Talk-se] Relationer och Sörmlandsleden

2014-04-29 Thread Claes Holmerson
Ja, jag tycker i alla fall det är snyggast om varje enskilt bit är kopplad till topprelationen på exakt ett sätt; antigen via en etapprelation (snyggast) eller direkt. Dvs, precis vad jag tror du var på väg att göra. Eller kortare uttryckt: Låter bra! Fortsätt! Tänkte försöka mig på det

Re: [Talk-se] Relationer och Sörmlandsleden

2014-04-29 Thread bengt bäverman
Hejsan Eftersom det är jag som knåpat ihop de flesta relationerna för Sörmlandsleden så tänkte jag bara säga att det är väldigt tacksamt om du fixar till de lösa bitarna som idag ligger i topprelationen så att de ligger i respektive etapprelation där de rimligen borde finnas i. Jag såg att det

[Talk-es] Odd edits by Tino Pinilla

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
I saw a number of odd edits by Tino Pinilla in Provincia de Barcelona, Catalunya, Spain, such as http://www.osm.org/changeset/21898498 The changeset has the tags created_by=Tino Pinilla and source=knowledge, and the ways have tags like CAS=VIA21. The spacing of nodes is odd, and not what I'd

[Talk-ee] MTÜ liikmemaksud

2014-04-29 Thread Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq)
Tere, Info MTÜ Avatud Maakaardi Selts liikmetele: liikmemaks 2014.a. eest on 10 EUR, selle palun kanda ülekandega: Saaja: AVATUD MAAKAARDI SELTS Konto: EE971010220105782019 SEB pank Summa: 10 EUR Tärmin: 1. juuni 2014 Ette tänades, Jaak juhatuse

[Talk-at] place=locality

2014-04-29 Thread Stephan Bösch-Plepelits
Hi! Ist Euch eigentlich schon aufgefallen, wie sehr die place=locality in Wien (und möglicherweise auch anderswo?) derzeit wuchern? Laut OSM Wiki beschreibt place=locality eine unbewohnte Örtlichkeit, Lokalität oder Flur. Derer gibt es innerhalb des bebauten Wien wohl kaum. Ich hab einen

Re: [Talk-at] place=locality

2014-04-29 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 29.04.2014 22:06, Stephan Bösch-Plepelits wrote: Ist Euch eigentlich schon aufgefallen, wie sehr die place=locality in Wien (und möglicherweise auch anderswo?) derzeit wuchern? Laut OSM Wiki beschreibt place=locality eine unbewohnte Örtlichkeit, Lokalität oder Flur. Derer gibt es innerhalb

Re: [Talk-at] place=locality

2014-04-29 Thread Ondřej Hošek
2014-04-29 23:17 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 29.04.2014 22:06, Stephan Bösch-Plepelits wrote: Verteilerkreis Favoriten? Nun, neighbourhood ist es keine. Keine Ahnung was man damit machen soll. Vermutlich fällt das eigentlich auch unter Platz? Als Favoritner, der

Re: [Talk-cat] Proposta etiquetatge carreteres i proposta portal

2014-04-29 Thread Jan Esquerra
Bon dia, com alguns ja us imagineu, jo estic més en la línia d'en Fermí i en Mateu que no pas la que proposen l'Hèctor i en Carlos. Però amb matisos. Estic totalment en desacord amb que el primer criteri per decidir la categoria (highway) siguin característiques constructives/tècniques com

Re: [Talk-cat] layer + trobada + no digest

2014-04-29 Thread yo paseopor
M'ha agradat molt el resum http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pyr%C3%A9n%C3%A9es-Orientales#Rassemblement_.C3.A0_Sarri.C3.A0_de_Ter_le_5_avril_2014així que voto per traduir-lo ;) salut i mapes yopaseopor 2014-04-28 22:20 GMT+02:00 Felip Manyer i Ballester fe...@openstreetmap.cat : El 28/04/14

Re: [Talk-cz] Hlášení chyb RUIAN přímo z JOSM

2014-04-29 Thread Marián Kyral
Ještě bych Petra doplnil: Petr udělal vizualizaci dat v RUIAN na http://ruian.poloha.net (http://ruian.poloha.net). Stačí si vpravo nahoře zapnout vrstvu budov. Podklad je OSM. Tato vrstva je také zobrazitelná v editoru JOSM, kde můžeme porovnat satelitní foto, KM a RUIAN. Pár ilustračních

Re: [Talk-cz] Hlášení chyb RUIAN přímo z JOSM

2014-04-29 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Pánové, díky všem za pozitivní zpětnou vazbu. V původním vláknu se navrhovalo, aby se vytvořilo nějaké strukturované XML obsahující tyto chyby. Má-li mít naše spolupráce s ČUZK opravdu nějaký smysl, musí z nás vypadnout tohle. Na ČUZK jsou lidi šikovní, kteří se XML souboru nezaleknou a už si to

Re: [Talk-cz] Hlášení chyb RUIAN přímo z JOSM

2014-04-29 Thread Marián Kyral
Oba emaily byly v reakcí na: Rádi od Vás vaše připomínky, reklamace převezmeme a budeme se snažit je ověřit a opravit. Chtěl bych se zeptat o reklamaci jakých údajů uvažujete? - o definiční body adresních míst - o definiční body stavebních objektů - o definiční body parcel -

Re: [Talk-cz] Hlášení chyb RUIAN přímo z JOSM

2014-04-29 Thread Petr Vejsada
Ahoj, ano, přesně tak jsem to myslel. Slovní popis a tvoje obrázky měly představit charakter chyb a teď čekám, že pan Souček napíše, jak tedy máme chyby hlásit. Ano, myslím, že mohu udělat automatický report těch duchů uvnitř budovy a s tím souvisejících, respektive podobných chyb. Ad čas -

Re: [Talk-cz] Hlášení chyb RUIAN přímo z JOSM

2014-04-29 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Absolutně souhlasím. My děláme Open Data, ČUZK dělá Státní mapové dílo spol. Tím, že do toho přispějeme z toho bezprostředně moc nic nemáme. Když přispějeme do OSM, tak z toho zpětně profituje celá komunita. Na druhou stranu, je to příležitost, jak být uznaní jistou částí české geo-komunity.

[OSM-talk-fr] Cartopartie Vernon (Eure) avec France 3 Normandie

2014-04-29 Thread RatZilla$
Bonjour, France 3 Normandie devait m'interviewer aujourd'hui. Au détour de Vernon je leur montrerai comment on cartographie. Cartopartie de 30minutes improvisée ce matin autour du Centre Social des Pénitents à 11:00 avec les agents et jeunes du centre en vacance. Je vous tiens au courant quand

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] service=alley

2014-04-29 Thread Christian Quest
A corriger donc... car les tags ne correspondent pas à la réalité. Le 28 avril 2014 22:10, Yves yve...@gmail.com a écrit : C'est des tags pour le rendu: les rues sont étroites et un highway residential deborderai sur les bâtiments. On 28 avril 2014 19:59:04 UTC+02:00, Jérôme Amagat

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rapport nombre de bâtiments par adresse, pour contrôle qualité

2014-04-29 Thread Ab_fab
On pourrait également suivre le carroyage INSEE (*), qui affinerait les résultats (*) http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=13lat=47.23526lon=-1.592layers=B000TFF Le 28 avril 2014 23:29, Pierre Knobel pierr...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, En même temps que je rajoute les adresses j'en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rapport nombre de bâtiments par adresse, pour contrôle qualité

2014-04-29 Thread Ab_fab
(re)bonjour, Il y a également ce principe des UTF-grid qui pourrait être intéressant https://github.com/mapbox/mbtiles-spec/blob/master/1.1/utfgrid.md Bonne journée Le 28 avril 2014 23:29, Pierre Knobel pierr...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, En même temps que je rajoute les adresses j'en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] service=alley

2014-04-29 Thread Tyndare
Le 28 avril 2014 22:10, Yves yve...@gmail.com a écrit : C'est des tags pour le rendu: les rues sont étroites et un highway residential deborderai sur les bâtiments. Ou alors c'est tagué pour le routage. Comment taguer les rues étroites des centres historiques qui ne sont pas vraiment

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] service=alley

2014-04-29 Thread Pieren
2014-04-28 22:10 GMT+02:00 Yves yve...@gmail.com: C'est des tags pour le rendu: les rues sont étroites et un highway residential deborderai sur les bâtiments. Pas tout à fait. En réalité, il n'existe pas de bon tag pour les rues étroites qui ne sont pas des voies de service (quelque chose

[OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Pieren
Pour ceux qui ne suivent pas les listes de diffusion anglophones ou n'ont pas eu la chance d'aller au SOTM-US ni d'en voir les vidéos, je voudrais quand même les tenir au courant d'une attaque sans précédent sur la license d'OSM (c.a.d. ODbL), bref sur le mode de partage de nos données. Pour

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread THEVENON Julien
Il me semble qu une partie de la discussion a eu lieu sur Talk non ? Par contre le principcal argument developpe etait plutot si il n y avait pas de Share Alike alors des gens comme Google reutilsieraient nos donnees et donneraient une bien meilleure visibilite a OSM Julien

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread V de Chateau-Thierry
Bonjour, De : THEVENON Julien Il me semble qu une partie de la discussion a eu lieu sur Talk non ? Par contre le principcal argument developpe etait plutot si il n y avait pas de Share Alike alors des gens comme Google reutilsieraient nos donnees et donneraient une bien meilleure

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Arnaud Vandecasteele
Merci pour ce résumé très intéressant ! J'avais suivi de loin le problème sans en comprendre la totalité... Je me demande bien qui va gagner ce bras de fer. De votre point de vue (la communauté fr), nous sommes plutôt pour la suppression ou la continuité du share alike ? A. 2014-04-29 11:07

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Pieren
2014-04-29 15:37 GMT+02:00 THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr: Il me semble qu une partie de la discussion a eu lieu sur Talk non ? Par contre le principcal argument developpe etait plutot si il n y avait pas de Share Alike alors des gens comme Google reutilsieraient nos donnees et

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Bruno Cortial
Merci Pieren pour le retour. Je sors les popcorn... Bruno ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Pieren
2014-04-29 15:55 GMT+02:00 V de Chateau-Thierry v...@laposte.net: - à j, OSM supprime la clause SA - à j+1, n'importe quel éditeur de BD géographiques fermées récupère tout le contenu qui l'intéresse dans OSM pour enrichir sa propre base Et au delà de j+1, chacun de ces éditeurs, fort de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 29/04/2014 15:31, Pieren wrote: Pour faire court, il s'agirait de supprimer la clause share alike de la license pour basculer dans un modèle public domain (domaine public, en bon français) [..] GPL vs. BSD redux... L'abandon de l'exigence 'Share Alike' par Openstreetmap permettrait

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Berrard
Merci pour ces infos. Semble-t-il réalisable qu'un nouveau changement de licence ait lieu ? Je n'étais pas contributeur au moment du passage à odbl. Un vote avait-il eu lieu ? PY Le 29 avril 2014 15:31, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : Pour ceux qui ne suivent pas les listes de diffusion

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Christian Quest
Au SOTM-US (surnommé par certains State Of The Mapbox, la réunion qui s'est suivie après la présentation d'Alex a été assez intéressante. Ca a démarré très fort avec Eric et Alex de Mapbox sur le thème, c'est quoi la procédure pour changer la licence. Réponse d'Henk (de l'OSMF), à minima le

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Tetsuo Shima
*Share-Alike:* If you publicly use any adapted version of this database, or works produced from an adapted database, you must also offer that adapted database under the ODbL. J'ai un peu de mal a comprendre en quoi le share alike est un problème? Il ne concerne que les donnée pas les applications

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread Christian Quest
C'est la raison pour laquelle j'essaye de faire comprendre par exemple à l'IGN que leur future licence pour la mise en opendata (réelle) de leurs données devra être l'ODbL si ils veulent qu'on collabore et aussi limiter l'effet balle dans le pied en nourrissant aveuglément leur concurrents. Le

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à l'identique

2014-04-29 Thread THEVENON Julien
+1 c etait les arguments que j avais developpe sur talk De : V de Chateau-Thierry v...@laposte.net À : Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 29 avril 2014 15h55 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Share alike ou le partage à

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